start by finding a white girl who likes blacks to get that preselection boost in your quest.

>>33650407
>white girl that doesn't like blacks
Why would you want this? Why not just find a white girl that likes blacks?

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>>33650407
Steve Urkel and Carl Winslowsmaxx.

>>33650429
kek

>>33650429
shit I meant Carlton Banks.

>>33650425
Because the type of white girls that find black guys attractive are not the type of women I find attractive.

>>33650441
How you got those two mixed up, I will never understand. They're not even the same type of people. lol. Not even in the same show. lol.

>>33650451
Admittedly my mind was still on the show Family Matters and they both share Carl in their names lol

>>33650456
>they both share Carl in their names lol
yeah I figured that must've been the reason lol

>>33650451
>They're not even the same type of people
They're both africans in America

>>33650493
Personality, you autist.

>>33650407
Be successful.

>>33650515
Nigger is a personality

>>33650407
Wouldn't it be a better idea to find a center right white girl who's cool with openly conservative blacks instead of a white girl who doesn't like any blacks?

>>33651340
Whoa, let's not get personal here.

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>>33650407
Stop saving stone toss comics for one

Be one of those big black monsters with huge muscles and 6’7 and a gigantic sexual organ device. However at the same time maintain this autistic nice guy beta personality you currently possess. I think it would shock her but the hardest step is first meeting her and not coming across like a robotic George Floyd ‘mechagodzilla’ model.

>>33650407
>white girl that doesn't like blacks
no such thing

>>33652016
What's it like being fed ale or milk like that?

>>33652041
>a gigantic sexual organ device
kek

>>33650407
Since no one is answering the question, I will. OP, I'm also a Black guy. Best thing to attract white women who don't usually go for blacks is to be educated and have a good career. I'm a CS major in college, and when I graduate I won't have to worry about money. Any women will overlook your skin color if your a college educated male with a good career, no record, and take care yourself (well groomed, good hygiene, haircut, cologne, etc.). You don't even have to make 6 figures.
Furthermore, try moving to a predominantly white area like the south or Vidor, TX (a well known sundown town).

Anymore questions?

>>33651465
Exactly. Find a conservative woman

>>33655605
Also not being black helps quite a bit.

>>33655605
>I am black
>>33655635
>No don't be black
oh kek

>>33655782
Could be another anon or he could be saying not being black greatly increases the odds of dating a white woman who hates blacks.

99% of racist women are only racist because their boyfriends are. The remaining 1% are autistic cunts and you don't actually want to date them.

>>33650444
You want women that don't find you attractive? Try to convert a lesbian while you're at it.

>>33656187
No, not me. Other blacks. I am the exception because I am special. No other black is as special as me. And that's why she has begrudgingly chosen to like me... because I am special :)

>>33656242
What makes you more special than the average black man, or average black conservative man? What good qualities do you possess to make you stand out compared to those black guys?

>>33650407
Kys. That will win her nigger-hating heart for sure!

>>33650444
>Because the type of white girls that find black guys attractive are not the type of women I find attractive.
Not even Evelyn Claire?

>>33657628
Who?

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>>33658074
What?

>>33655605
>I'm a CS major in college,
>when I graduate I won't have to worry about money

>>33650407
Asian here. I'm neither black nor white.

People dislike black people not entirely because of their skin but their culture. Spouting non-sense N words to their non-black friends. Their friends can't say the N word back just for funzies despite you starting that crap yourself (hypocritical). You should never ever say that as a black person to a white person despite all habits and background nature of where you belong.

They have this annoying accent that sounds uncivilized and uncultured. "dawg" instead of dog. "homie" instead of "bro". There's many black people out there that's respected as celebrity status or equal like Snoop Dog, Neil Degrasse-Tyson, Taio Cruz, Chris Tucker, Obama.

If you act like a civilized black person like mentioned above without the blackhood fag background then you're no different to your kind that everybody hates.

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>white women themselves say they hate white men and love black men
>black men say white women hate them
>everywhere I go I only see (young) white women with black men
>and yet statistics say white women are the most racially loyal
>but all my exes had at least 1 black boyfriend before dating me
>but they all said they were the only woman they knew irl who dated a black man
The cognitive dissonance is painful.

>>33659229
>says the n word is bad and uncultured
>lists snoop dog who says it all the time
kek

>>33659313
that is the best screenshot of cillian murphy there ever was and ever will be

>>33657241
He hasn’t stolen yet, that’s what I’m guessing.

you can start by accepting that only the mentally ill white women race-mix.

with race mixers you have to choose 2 of these 3
>Mentally ill
>Junkie
>Very low IQ

>>33659760
Tbf, there are white women who have race mixed or are currently in an interracial relationship and they're neither of these 3 types of people.

>>33650407
Lol, Best thing about being a black woman is it’s easy to get a racist white guy, i dont think is common a racist white women wanting have a black boyfriend

>>33650407
beastiality thread

>>33650407
You need BWC

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>>33655605
>I'm a CS major in college, and when I graduate I won't have to worry about money.
No one tell him

>>33660890
ok kek lol

>>33650407
Why not just find a black girl?
Love yourself and love you people anon.
All racial mixtures are inherently fetishistic.

>>33661280
He'd probably want a non-ratchet non-obese non-nigsmelling one

>>33661299
Great, find one?
The race mixing psyop is out of control.
>I can't date X race women because they're trash
>I can't date X race man. because they're trash
Who cares? Being with somebody who is of your own race is the utmost healthy and ethical thing to do, stop looking for other options when there is only one correct one.

>>33661314
The race purity psyop is out of control in the inceltard community

>>33661280
>>33661314
>telling people who they should or shouldn't be with
kill yourself with fire

>>33661509
>>33661655
It's not wrong to encourage what is healthy. Every group of people on the planet for countless generations before globalization prefer their own group, it's healthy, just like having two straight parents in a household produces offspring with a healthier sense of self, so racial harmony also produces healthier people.
>Tell people who they should and should not be with
This is the thing, turning the issue into a preference is inherently fetishistic and materialistic, you're denigrating all loving relationships to the level of a petty possessiveness, like a races of people are collectables. You turn them into objects, if you don't date and engage with a partner out of principle.
People from single race backgrounds are objectively healthier then people from multiple racial backgrounds.
Mix race people are proven to have greater difficulty with acculturation.
Mix race people have a higher likelihood of mental illness.
You erase culture, history, homogenize everyone, and strip us of what we are innately. Come to find out no one knows who they are anymore, and no one feels like they belong anywhere. You've erased tens of thousands of years of human community and expect to just replace it with corporate platitudes.

>>33650407
i don't like black guys but i would say the #1 thing is "act white" and 100% do not have a "black" voice or accent or talk in AAVE. they shouldn't be able to tell you're black from a voice recording alone

>>33650444
Based as hell. I agree. White women are ok, but let's be honest. Hardly any of the hot ones like black men and if they do? It's usually some college slut wanting BBC for just the experience. White women who love black men are often busted as fuck.

>>33650407
Takes training. My gf is "bi" and I insult homos around her all the time, even called her a faggot a few times.

>>33661314
Nigga there's a reason why blk women are the least desired. Even if I wanted my own, I'd have to wade through mountains of ghetto know it all aggressive cunts to even get a modicum of what they SHOULD be like. Meanwhile I know hispanic and Indian women who would treat me like a king. Im good on black women, one of my biggest mistakes.

>>33662168
Literally every group of men and women have been saying this about their own race, doesn't negate the fact that a pure race relationship is the healthiest option.
I see tons of reasonably healthy black girls, change where you're looking anon.
If you create mixed race kids they will grow up to resent you, they will not have any sense of identity, they will be strangers to you and everyone around them.
You have a moral obligation to do what is best for your children, and that means being loyal to your own people.
>If I had a dime for every time some white incel on this board said some shit about white girls being insufferable
Why have we all been so conditioned to hate our own people?

>>33662160
Sadly, yeah.

>>33662137
>they shouldn't be able to tell you're black from a voice recording alone
Wow, well then I should be good on that aspect. I've done blind voice tests on random people who have never met me before, and they could not tell I was black from listening to my voice. They were shocked when they saw my face afterward.

>>33662224
>stick with your own kind it's healthy
this has to be the most racist thing I have ever read in my entire life lowkey nazi propaganda dude I will say it again fucking kill yourself

>>33662224
Oh no doubt. I'm completely against race mixing, I'm just saying that I'm not jumping up to fuck and make babies with black women. I'd much rather just have preventative sex with a different race woman than I ever would wanting to plant seed, especially with a black woman.

>>33662356
>I'm completely against race mixing
Eh, race mixing is hot. More should do it.

>>33662257
Hell I've never seen a white woman whose in shape like black men. Like you can actually tell by straight looks alone which white women probably fuck black men. If she's fit, dresses proper, and isn't a disgusting slob then there's a 80% chance she doesn't like black skin. She might fuck one every once in awhile on a thrill, but you'll never see something like a gym rat white girl dating a black guy unless, like I said, it's fetish shit.

>>33662354
Were all of the worlds ancestors racist for living with people who were genetically similar to them?
I'm not preaching hate on anyone, but to assume that a behavior that lacks any kind of substantial historical precedent has zero consequences is just absurd. You can think harder than this, Anon.

>>33662356
But why invest your time in a relationship that is so unloving? Cheap sex is cheap, but if a healthy black woman is out there, don't you think that your behavior of just sleeping around is going to be repulsive to her?
Fuck sake man, I know a lot of black women are indecent, the whole world is, that isn't any excuse for you to be indecent yourself.
Do what's right.

>>33662367
Fucking other races is hot, but ive seen the fallout too many times of creating mutts. Even my own mixed family members I side eye, so they'll never be fully welcomed and I would be a bastard for putting that crown on an innocent child. If you want to knock up some sheboon, be my guest, but im good even if we share the same color.

>>33651465
There is nothing conservative about racemixing.
These types of women are completely deranged.

>>33662379
Oh im sure there's atleast SOME black women who check my boxes but I'm 34, I'm tired and burnt out. If a bitch doesn't come correct on day 1 then kick rocks, and let's be honest, how many black women show up on day 1 to be proper women for their man?

If I luck up and find one, great. But I'm not holding out hope. My last 2 exes were black and I had more horseshit with them alone than I ever did with my hispanic, Asian, or Egyptian exes over the course of my life. Some days I really do wish to create a nice proper black family, but then I go outside or talk to one and I can instantly feel the disgust of how we are towards each other.

>>33662386
>if you fuck someone that means you must have a baby with them it's the law
>you cannot just have a relationship with someone you must have kids with them as well
you for real?

>>33662404
How many times have you showed up proper? If you're going and sleeping around, it seems evident you should check your own house before blaming black women.
That disgust is an internalized hatred of ones own race, it's what we're all contending with right now. You have to push past that if you want real connection.
Imagine someone said to you
>I can't find medicine for my ailment, so I'm going to take heroin
Why would you willingly do something you know is wrong just because it's hard to find what's right?

>>33662409
The point of a relationship is to eventually settle and sire kids you fucking retard, idk if you're new or just stupid, but there's no law, it's an expectation from society.

Ppl can do what they want, doesnt mean you don't look like a weirdo for dating/living with someone for 10+ yrs and you merely treat each other as if you were week 1 into dating.

>>33662409
Having healthy kids means promoting behaviors that are going to be the most healthy for the kids. Promiscuity is not healthy, and children deserve a stable parental unit to learn from.
that's why divorce is so evil.

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>>33662420
Well you don't know me so you're probably putting your own personal bias on me. Are you a black woman by any chance? You seem really twisted by this.

Anyway back on topic. I dont need to check my house, I have been raised, grown up, dated, and fucked these women. I am apart of the fucking race, so yes I can see easily what qualities I want and which I don't and black women for the most part DO NOT check those boxes. Doesn't matter if one or five do, the majority don't and that has made me overall be turned off from engaging with them past platonics. By your logic I should keep going to the burger stand that has roaches because "well not all of them have roaches!", nah I go where I'm welcomed with the least amount of hassle and other races have shown me that on a much greater level. I'm not even talking about kids or marriage, I'm talking about just dating/courting these women so thanks, but no thanks when it comes to black women.

Imagine being that upset that someone has recognized the flaws in their own race and decide to not add or be apart of it. Straight goofy. If a hispanic or Asian woman acted the same way or similar, I'd drop them too. You're making it a race thing while I'm saying it's a quality issue.

>>33662423
>triggered over the fact that not everyone desires to have kids
lol... lmao even

>>33662430
>Promiscuity is not healthy
omg you're that weirdo from the other threads... well your opinion is going right into the trash bin then kek total nonsensical gibberish lol

>>33662460
Everyone puts their own personal bias into things, that doesn't negate objective reality.
Your behavior lacks principle, you shouldn't be surprised to keep finding such unprincipled women. You're getting what you put out there.
I agree it's a quality issue, people these days are largely unhealthy and deranged, and this applies to every race, which is why I have an interest in this thread because this dynamic you're describing is true of my own people.
You made it a race thing when you betrayed your own people.
I sympathize with your plight and I agree it's a difficult issue, but that should't stop you from doing what is right. Keep struggling.

>>33662465
Give me a single example of how promiscuity can be considered healthy and promote good things in society.

>>33662160
>>33650407
You can get with a normal white woman as a black guy, but you have to be a "chad" tier black guy.
Meaning be in shape, have a decent job, active social life, cool hobbies, etc.

At a certain level your overall attractiveness will overwrite your race a bit. This isn't a common thing though, very few black guys get here.

>>33662430
>children deserve a stable parental unit to learn from. that's why divorce is so evil.
For five years, my mom was married to my piece of shit of a step father. I was ten. When she finally got the courage to divorce his abusive ass, I was glad. It was so much better when he was gone. So fuck that. So glad divorce exists.

>>33662629
>stable parental unit
>step father
He wasn't talking about you, dude

>>33662633
>biological father
He was a piece of shit too. Glad he was gone.

>>33662430
While I do agree on promiscuity being risky and bad behavior, and that divorce can lead to a pretty bad outcome for the child, if there's no cheating or abuse, but the relationship simply isn't working and even the child can sense it, why should these two stay in a loveless marriage? What if they don't have children? They aren't breaking apart a family for selfish reasons at that point.

>>33662629
>>33662642
No offense, but if your mom is getting involved with this many abusive men then it's clear that she is immature and probably can't define what is healthy, nor live by a healthy standard. Divorce exists to remove the consequences of her actions in getting involved with men she should have known were shit before she even married them.
Your example proves my point, people aren't getting married for healthy reasons or by higher standards, and then what a surprise to find that they have dysfunctional relationships.
You would have been better off if you had a stable family household, and I'm sorry that you didn't have that experience, but that's no excuse to justify wrong doing. If anything, you should encourage people so that they can have what you never did.

>>33662672
Yes, if it's dysfunctional, and I agree in a lot of cases that divorce is the right decision. But look at what it justifies?
People aren't getting married out of a shared sense of values or identity anymore, they're getting married to gratify impulse, and that impulse tears them apart eventually.
Now if we want to encourage people to find healthy relationships, we shouldn't encourage divorce, because it sets this precedent where people will choose the easy way out and not define or communicate as a relationship demands, they can quit when it gets hard.
Divorce is indicative of a civilization that is not working to resolve these issues, but is making choices to avoid the consequences of their issues.
Marriage is through thick and thin, it should not be a vow taken lightly, and people need to realize that and define what is healthy before they marry and have kids.
And if the spark dies, you have to reignite it, to stay together, for the sake of your kids, for the sake of your community.
The couples who push past this point stay together for life, and beyond. They lose interest, romantic attraction, but they stay together, because it's the right thing to do, and sooner or later that spark comes back.
If divorce is unhealthy, and we want to encourage health in others, we should not encourage divorce, and should encourage people to gain the skills and emotional maturity they need to maintain a lifelong relationship.

>>33662700
Marriage is outdated. Promiscuity is the future and makes everyone happy.

>>33662700
>to stay together, for the sake of your community
You really do live in 1920, don't ya. Well, bless your heart.

>>33662739
>>33662748
Show me any demonstrable proof that promiscuity does anything good for society.
>Children of divorced parents have lower grade point averages (GPAs) and a higher chance of repeating a year of school. They also are more likely to experience poverty.
>Research shows that children of divorced parents face higher rates of mental health issues, including depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation, compared to children from intact families
>Children of divorced parents are approximately 50% more likely to divorce themselves than those from intact families.
>Children with divorced parents are twice as likely to attempt suicide.
>70% of prison inmates incarcerated for long-term sentences grew up in broken homes, family separation statistics reveal.
Just because we live in 2025 doesn't alter the state of objective truth, which is true of all time. And throughout history we have so many examples that show us that faithful couples produce the healthiest children, and are indicative of the healthy of society at large.
Your petty emotions cannot rewrite the truth.

>>33662700
Lots of people back then never went through divorce because It either wasn't available at the time or it would've been a huge hit to their reputation even if the relationship wasn't beyond saving. So there were married couples who in a loveless marriage decades to centuries ago.
People absolutely should get married to someone who shares the same values and goals or at least most goals and values because there is no such thing as a perfect partner, and marriage is though. There's ups and downs and times where it's just bland, but it's the responsibility of the couple to make sure it remains healthy.

To me, divorce should only be done if the relationship is truly done for. There is no interest in saving it anymore because either the husband/wife has been trying their best to keep it alive while the husband/wife has been half-assing it the whole time causing the person who has been putting in the effort to build up years of resentment, or there's a lack of effort on both sides, or years of bad behavior on one or both sides with a refusal to change. Cheating and abuse is a no brainer obviously

>>33662739
Promiscuity doesn't make anyone happy unless there's something wrong with them. There's a reason why many former hoes and man-whores choose to leave that kind of lifestyle at some point.

>>33662789
The hippie in me would like to cite pre agricultural peoples who lived closer to nature as an example, but ultimately that can't be ascertained with certainty.
Suffice to say that we have been very unhealthy for awhile, and so having an example of health is hard to find in history. But if we look at how our chemistry is hardwired for pair bonding, it is clear that nature intended us to be faithful to produce strong offspring, and maybe there was a time where people weren't so neurotic or otherwise insane where divorce would have been unheard of, but it's popularity today is to me a sign of disease and dysfunction.
I think we have to try and uphold this ideal no matter what. Those of strong mind and heart should invest themselves in other strong people, and maybe one day we can avoid divorce almost entirely by acting on and promoting what we know is healthy, instead of justifying what we know is not.
>Divorce should only be done if the relationship is truly done for.
In the vast majority of cases, it is salvageable, but people don't know how to put in the effort.

>>33662781
>still believes that everyone who has sex must have children by some invisible law someone decided somewhere
lol this guy... anyways I'm off to have some wild promiscuous sex with these two hot chicks I met on tinder... have fun samefagging

>>33662789
>even if the relationship wasn't beyond saving
Made a mistake here. I meant to say, even if the relationship was beyond saving.

>>33662856
Healthy sex was designed to create children, it was designed to be pleasurable so that you can keep having sex with the same partner and producing more stable healthy children with them.
>Eating food is pleasurable and crucial for health. What does eating for its own sake result in?
Obesity.
Pleasure is not the defining feature of truth, just because you can engage in that behavior doesn't make it morally correct.
Seriously look around at how unhealthy the world is, then maybe you should reconsider your position. The fruits of your labor are destruction.

>>33662900
lmao no the world is unhealthy because of puritanical people like you that seek to reduce sex into a baby making only activity and chastise others for enjoying themselves

seriously get a blowjob sometime you sound like you've never had one

>>33662818
If I'm not mistaken marriage wasn't really about love originally. It was about more about business, but eventually people started to get married out of love. This was a long time ago obviously.
>and maybe there was a time where people weren't so neurotic or otherwise insane where divorce would have been unheard of
I feel like you're romanticizing the past a bit. Like I said before, divorce wasn't available or getting one was a hit to your reputation. So some couples just stuck together because it was expected of them to stay together. Of course there were plenty of happy couples back then, and communities were closer too, but some people just tried to save face.
It's possible that the popularity of divorce might be an overreaction or maybe an overcorrection of the times when it wasn't an option. Hence why some losers online would recommend ending the relationship over something minor instead of finding a solution.
>and maybe one day we can avoid divorce almost entirely by acting on and promoting what we know is healthy
Humans are emotional, so some people will ignore red flags or what others say because of those emotions. Though getting to a point where most couples are guaranteed to stick together until death would be great.
>In the vast majority of cases, it is salvageable, but people don't know how to put in the effort.
Probably not the vast majority, but I'd say a huge amount of relationships could've been saved if more effort was put into them. You might've noticed already, but I'm not saying we need more divorce. I just don't think it should be banned.

>>33662958
>Hence why some losers online would recommend ending the relationship over something minor instead of finding a solution.
Oh, are you talking about me, samefag? lol

This is some advanced coonery at work here. Have some self-respect.

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>>33662941
I'm approaching this issue as somebody who used to sleep around a lot. I've engaged in what you're advocating, and now looking at all my old friends who are in that lifestyle, they are:
>Obese
>Single Parents
>Alcoholics
>Drug addicts
>In financial debt
>Play video games all day
>In their mid 20's and on prescription medication
Etc etc etc.
Maybe you haven't lived it enough to see the fruits of your labour anon. I suggest you open your eyes.
Puritanical vs hedonism is a false dichotomy, they're both bad. Find health.

>>33662958
Well again, if yo use pair bonding as an example, our biology is designed for monogamy and long term fidelity. Marriage is essentially just a way to actualize this process in a more intelligible form, just like a word is used to represent something, though people often confuse the word for the thing itself, and that's why most people believe that it's all just social BS and ignore objective reality.
>I feel like you're romanticizing
Yes, I am. That is my personal belief and there isn't much evidence for it outside of biology. But the purpose of upholding this ideal is along the lines of poetic myth making, we ought to mythologize what is healthy and demonstrably true, even if we can't see it's historical examples very clearly, in the present day, we know that it is despite all options the healthiest behavior to engage in.
>Humans are emotional
Yes, but that doesn't mean we cannot sublimate these emotions into healthier avenues of expression through disciplined and principled action.
>I just don't think it should be banned.
Neither do I, but I don't think it should be encouraged. It should be and remain taboo forever.

>>33650407
>your search returns 1 result(s)
That is some laser targeted filter settings, anon.. maybe start with a woman who likes black people, then use your black authority and expertise on being black to convince her black people kinda gay? If shes enough of a simping lap dog im sure she'll come around.
Pick me girls are horrendous for matching whatever their latest dick fascination is.
My ex matched my entire personality before revealing in 5 years she actually hated everything we do and suspiciously was exactly like the dude I was told not to worry about.

The story is exaggerated, but not by much. Not by much.

>>33662997
>Obese
>Single Parents
>Alcoholics
>Drug addicts
>In financial debt
>Play video games all day
>In their mid 20's and on prescription medication
None... of that... has anything to do with having copious amounts of sex outside of marriage. Your friends just suck at being adults. I am none of those things you've mentioned.

>Maybe you haven't lived it enough to see the fruits of your labour anon.
I'm 40 years old, Anon. I have lived. And I am very happy with the fruits of my labor. My sexuality has brought untold gigatrucks of happiness and satisfaction into my life and I have zero regrets about it.

You had a negative experience with sex, I had, and still do, have a very positive experience with it. Life is what you make of it, Anon.

>>33663045
Yes, it does. They all engage in promiscuity, and can't establish long term success, because none of their values are aligned with longevity.
This behavior doesn't contribute to the health of a community, and without a healthy community all things deteriorate. You maybe have achieved some relative degree of success, but the overall atomization you advocate is a statistical dead end.
Your behavior is unhealthy. You have biological imperatives to have children, and yet you're in your 40's and childless. That doesn't contribute to the health of society. And the accoutrements of your lifestyle like drinking and vice results in absolutely nothing good for individuals or society aside from dopamine hits of pleasure.
>But I've received pleasure!
Great, that is not an indication of health or morality. You've proven nothing.

>>33662997
And to your silly cartoon, I don't do heroin or drink alcohol, or even smoke, and I definitely don't watch harry potter, lol... I do watch a lot of porn though but it doesn't affect me because I do not have an addictive personality, so whatever porn I watch, I am always happy and satisfied with it.

>>33663061
>I do watch a lot of porn though but it doesn't affect me because I do not have an addictive personality
This is bait right?
People without principles shouldn't talk about what's good for the world...

>>33663056
Like the vast grand majority of parents weren't virgins when they met. You have an autistic view of the world and are using other anon to feed your confirmation bias.
Most people became parents in their 30s now. And most of them have dating histories and sexual pasts.
>dopamine hits from pleasure
You dont know how dopamine works, and I promise you, sex itself doesnt even hold a candle to how much your phone plows through your dopamine. Ill bet you've done more damage to your dopaminergic system shit posting daily on 4chan and chronic porn use than the whoriest woman ever did with sex. If you want to get mad at a surge to society, handheld electronic devices, short form media, and yes, 4chan which supplies a feedback loop are way way worse for everyone than your misplaced moral sexual outrage.

>>33663070
>surge to society
Scourge, sorry.

>>33663056
>You have biological imperatives to have children, and yet you're in your 40's and childless.
Dude, dude, dude... this is what you don't understand... I don't give a flying fuck about having children. I have zero desire for that. You seem to have a very difficult time wrapping your head around that.

I don't want kids. It's that simple. lmao oh my heavens lord have mercy, lol.

>You've proven nothing.
lol, bless your heart.

>>33663070
>And most of them have dating histories and sexual pasts.
Sure, I'm not saying they can't become functional, but it's more a role of the dice, because they're just fucking around instead of looking for a genuine partnership. They happen to end up in a good relationship, but again, exceptions do not justify the rule, the vast majority of people engaged in these lifestyles are not healthy, and do not have stable relationships, yet the people who engage in abstinence and monogamy have better odds of being in a successful and healthy relationship.
>Ill bet you've done more damage to your dopaminergic system shit posting daily on 4chan and chronic porn
Yes, it is unhealthy, but again, I'm talking about principle, which includes whorish men and women's behavior, regardless of the severity is still morally wrong.
Sexually monogamous civilizations are the healthiest. Show me an example of how promiscuity results in good things, even, give me some examples.
Not just my experience sleeping with women I never gave a fuck about, but the experience of all my friends, all my family, and everyone I've ever known, and everything I've ever seen.
I've never seen a healthy example of promiscuity, ever. So show me an example, and show me how it is healthy.

>>33663078
>I don't give a flying fuck about having children.
You've been poisoned against your biology, making as neurotic as any woman who is childless beyond the age of 30.
You can't argue reality just because your petty sense of indulgence doesn't agree with it, your biology remains.
Every part of your being is conditioned towards having children. Not to be a Freudian, but it's true.

>>33662997
>Well again, if yo use pair bonding as an example, our biology is designed for monogamy and long term fidelity. Marriage is essentially just a way to actualize this process in a more intelligible form, just like a word is used to represent something, though people often confuse the word for the thing itself, and that's why most people believe that it's all just social BS and ignore objective reality.
Humans were already getting "married" before marriage became a thing. It's just that it wasn't always the ultimate expression of love, and btw I'm not disagreeing with you here lol.
>we ought to mythologize what is healthy and demonstrably true
We already mythologize the hell out of health and love, which is why so many people around the world get married, with some even believing concepts like soulmates, a special person out there for you, fate, real and fictional heroes, modern and old, etc. Even with the rise of promiscuity we still want true love.
>Yes, but that doesn't mean we cannot sublimate these emotions into healthier avenues of expression through disciplined and principled action.
Yeah, not disagreeing with you there. Though there are a few instances where emotional and irrational decision making based on love managed to work out. Which is one of the reasons why some people make these choices.
>It should be and remain taboo forever.
It shouldn't be encouraged, but it shouldn't be a taboo either. If it's encouraged, then some people will end relationships that could've been saved, but if it's seen as a taboo, then some people will be encouraged to remain in a relationship that cannot be saved.

>>33663088
>We already mythologize the hell out of health and love
Yes that's true, and there are some unhealthy ideals in there admittedly. Meaning we have to be mindful in constructing a civilization around healthier ideals, not merely idealistic ones, but ones that more closely represent reality.
Soul mates is in this regard analogous with pair bonding.
>Which is one of the reasons why some people make these choices.
Okay, so here's my argument for this. Should we make decisions based more on what is statistically and generally true, or based on emotions and the hope that things will just fall into place?
Abstinence and monogamy are, to my mind, designed to accommodate these realities. They are the mediums by which these emotions are channeled into more healthy avenues.
>Then some people will be encouraged to remain in a relationship that cannot be saved.
So what would you define as the middle ground here?

>>33663087
lol, he's like a robot. he just can't comprehend that people can have sex and not have a child out of it.

lmao, it's too much to compute.

lol, oh bless your sweet robotic heart.

>>33663083
Thats also not true.
People's priorities change as they age. Everyone's priorities change as they age.

My wife and I didnt want kids until our 30s. I didnt even want to get married until my 30s. Then we did. Our kids aren't accidents, and we didnt just labd in a why not relationship. We were both looking for long term at the same time.

And we are not atypical.

You sound like someone who just has your set view, and you will argue endlessly pulling bullshit out of your asshole to maintain youre correct. Ironically forgetting yiu dont go outside and have no real experience with people and have zero clue how people actually work, yet somehow think you can come even close to having some sort of expertise.

You know fuck zip about anything bud. Sit tf down and stfu.

>>33663083
>ive never seen a healthy example
Wow its almost like you live on the internet and confirmation bias is a thing.

>>33657241
He's transracial

>>33662168
>hispanic and Indian women who would treat me like a king
no they wont.
these are the races that hate blacks the most

no woman is going to treat you black monkey ass like a king. fuck off

>>33662376
zara larsson. was ruined when i found out she exclusively dates blacks

>>33663102
>You know fuck zip about anything bud. Sit tf down and stfu.
kek

>>33663087
Not wanting kids doesn't mean that you've been poisoned. Sure, some people were convinced to not have children by others, the media, etc , while others came to conclusion on their own. If a person manages to live a full life without children and they don't regret it, I fail to see how lecturing them on why they should've had children would matter.

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>>33663104
>He's transracial

>>33663101
>Abortion
Why do people spend so much time and energy advocating for things that separate them from the consequences from their actions?
I promise, the behavior you're engaged in would not be sustainable without modernity.

>>33663102
Wanting kids doesn't alter the biological imperative, there is no basis in nature to suggest that an animal ought to engage in this behavior purely for it's own sake.
Having kids in your youth is important for having healthy children, you are the healthiest and most fertile in these years.
>You know fuck zip about anything bud. Sit tf down and stfu.
I know my experience, and I've seen what works. I've been all over my country, worked all kinds of jobs, have all kinds of friends.
Objective truth cannot be refuted simply because it is inconvenient to you. I cite my experience and the experience of my friends, you say
>Your experience isn't evidence of reality
So I can cite statistics and copious amounts of evidence from online, you'll then say
>Statistics aren't based in reality
I have and continue to cite evidence, but you refuse to engage in reality.
Promiscuity is not healthy, and does not result in healthy people.
Everyone is out here taking hormone altering drugs to prevent themselves from having kids, do you think this is natural or healthy?
Sex has consequences, and the world is a cesspool pool.

>>33663103
I promise I've been to more places and had more experiences than you. Wanna measure dicks retard? Or do you just want to engage in adhoms because you know you don't have any kind of rationalization to your own behavior, and you hate confronting objective morality.
I know, because I used to be you.

>>33663123
Yes, you can still live a meaningful healthy life without kids, but advocating for behaviors that generally promote neuroticism and hedonism in the general population, which do not lead to long term healthy relationships more often then not, and which degrades human interaction, is not the correct behavior.

>>33663152
>you are the healthiest and most fertile in these years.
I don't mean to imply it's bad to have kids outside of your youth, just that it's the best thing you could be doing with your youth, better then drugs and alcohol, or any of the other degenerate shit we tell young people is normal and acceptable.

>>33663152
>Abortion
Condoms, IUDs, vasectomies, oral, anal, etc. You disingenuous autistic fuck.

>>33663166
>it's the best thing you could be doing with your youth
For some people, sure. But not for everyone. Some people might want to have a career instead. Others just do not see themselves as parents... ever. And others just want to enjoy sex.

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>>33650407
All white girls secretly love black men. What’s not to love? They’re more masculine and have bigger schlongs on average. What you even worried about? Get that white puss kang

>>33663206
>picrel
What am I looking at here?

>>33663100
>Soul mates is in this regard analogous with pair bonding.
Soulmates implies that fate had something to do with the nature of the relationship. So it goes beyond chemicals in the brain.
>Okay, so here's my argument for this. Should we make decisions based more on what is statistically and generally true, or based on emotions and the hope that things will just fall into place?
I'm not saying we should bet on being the exception. Just explaining why some people make these choices. I wouldn't elope with a woman I started dating six months ago and just hope everything works out, but at the same time I won't act like a robot and propose after a year or two of dating because apparently it's optimal to get married after a year or two of dating as an adult.
>So what would you define as the middle ground here?
For lack of a better term, neutral. I'm sure there's a better word to describe this middle ground, but it escapes me at the moment.

>>33663152
>but advocating for behaviors that generally promote neuroticism and hedonism in the general population, which do not lead to long term healthy relationships more often then not, and which degrades human interaction, is not the correct behavior.
In a healthier world, this would be obvious.

>>33663116
As someone else in this thread said, only like 20% or less of decent to good looking white women are pretty open to dating black guys, and by open I don't mean exclusively dating them or seeing them as more attractive than white guys.

>>33663195
You are arguing from a place of moral relativism. You can still have kids and pursue a career. Subjectivity doesn't negate the fact that sex is ultimately for the production of children, and the establishment of intimacy between life partners. Objectively, everything having to do with sex falls in line with this.
Pursuing sex purely for the sake of pleasure is degeneracy. Every civilization in the history of man becomes more hedonistic the more obsessed with sex it becomes.
And again, you guys will spend more time justifying degenerate sex, an no time teaching the youth home to properly communicate and establish a long term relationship.
The latter of which is obviously more important, but you spend all your time justifying the former.

>>33663216
>Fate
A symptom of mindlessness, i.e.
>I haven't put any thought into who I am or what I believe in, and instead of defining my principles I'm going to leave my entire life up to a roll of the dice.
Yet most people who believe this end up in a lot of shitty relationships, because they are't acting on principle.
Yes, I don't want a robotic relationship either, nature and instinct will determine timing, no need to autistically fret over it.

>>33663178
Again, all behaviors that have numerous consequences and negative outcomes, all for the sake of cheap pleasure, all to avoid the consequences of sex. It's unnatural:
>Condoms: Which break, limit skin contact, are made from synthetic unnatural materials.
>IUDs: Linked to hormonal imbalance and various other issues with menstruation
>Vasectomies: Various issues that medical consensus doesn't talk about, shutting down a biological product. All because you're too degenerate to just not have sex
>Oral and Anal: Sodomy, increased risk of disease, immoral, an act of dominance, results in rectal damage and fecal incontinence in frequent practitioners, and again, is an act purely for the pursuit of pleasure, not for the sake of anything higher or more virtuous.

>>33663255
>Pursuing sex purely for the sake of pleasure is degeneracy.
How can anyone take you seriously when you say shit like this?

>>33663213
A cute Ukrainian girl who just got blacked

>>33663283
Oh shit...

>>33663266
I'm not saying pleasure is wrong, but if you're only fucking a chick for shallow reasons, why am I the one who shouldn't be taken seriously?
Sex should be between somebody you're committed to, who you love, who you want to be with long term, who you are aligned with you spiritually and on principle. The pleasure becomes a vehicle to deepen that intimacy, but without that sense of commitment, that vehicle essentially drive you nowhere at all.

>>33663255
>A symptom of mindlessness, i.e.
>>I haven't put any thought into who I am or what I believe in, and instead of defining my principles I'm going to leave my entire life up to a roll of the dice.
Not defending it because I don't believe in the idea of a soulmate. It's a nice thought, but there isn't a person you're destined to be with. I was just pointing out the difference between soulmates and pair bonding.

>Again, all behaviors that have numerous consequences and negative outcomes, all for the sake of cheap pleasure, all to avoid the consequences of sex. It's unnatural:
If I want to have sex with my gf/wife, but we don't want kids yet or we've had enough kids then we're going to use protection. You can make an argument about anal sex being unhealthy, but I fail to see how oral sex is going to ruin your health if it's simply between you and your partner.
As for the natural thing, there are so many unnatural things modern humans do. The unhealthy side of it should be discouraged, while the healthy side of it should be encouraged, but using natural law as an excuse doesn't always work with us.

>>33663255
>All because you're too degenerate to just not have sex
lol this fucking guy... anyways my uber is here to take me to those two hotties so we can have wild passionate degenerate sex ;)

>>33663294
Sure, maybe soulmate is a more absolute term, whereas pair bonding denotes a more disciplined distinction that is closer to the ideal of health that these ideas are aiming to promote. Pair Bonding is, however, evidence that monogamy and long term commitment is hardwired into our biology.
>But I fail to see how oral sex is going to ruin your health if it's simply between you and your partner.
Okay, so I can understand the desire to please a long term partner, but my way of thinking now days is based in symbology and principle. To me, I don't want to shove things in the mouth of the woman that I love, the mother of my children. That to me, that shallow pursuit of pleasure, is not an act of love, but an action of dominance. Ultimately, so long as long term commitment is upheld, maybe oral doesn't really matter that much towards promoting overall health, so I won't press that issue.
>There are so many unnatural things modern humans do.
Just because we can do it doesn't make it right. Without any appeal to principle, I think we descend into a kind of anarchy of individualism, whereby objective truth is disregarded, and we are all isolated within our own relative truths.
Do you see what I'm saying in regards to modern dating? Why so many of the younger generation find it so hard? Because we are so absolutely atomized and disparate that we can't define those objective baselines of healthy intimacy.
And so my rebuke of you is summarizes as this:
>We cannot advocate the endless compartmentalization of personal preferences, and expect the world to be maintained as a cohesive whole, that is health.
Subjective pleasure pursuits ultimately erode what is true and healthy, even if those pursuits contain an element of objective truth in themselves.

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>>33663290
I suppose you hate the concept of friends with benefits as well

>>33650407
you sound like you'd call your kid the n word. Maybe give the kid up for adoption.

>>33663574
I hate the n word and I never wanted kids in the first place. Maybe go outside and touch grass.

>>33663552
From my personal experience, I'd rather just jack off, little to no difference to me. If I'm not emotionally connected to that person for the long haul I just don't really care about sex.
I wasn't always like this, I used to sleep around a lot, always fucking around, but I don't know man. Something about getting older and seeing all the drama my peers are surrounded in, seeing wrinkles on my skin, just made me reconsider why I was really engaged in that behavior in the first place.
I spent all that time socializing with people and sleeping around, and what was there to show for it? I didn't spend any time developing the skills and experiences I'd need to maintain a real relationship, because I was sleeping around, and I degraded all those women and myself.
There is something more worthwhile then cheap sex, and having seen it, I will try my best to uphold and promote it.
Nothing else is worth my time and energy.

>>33663343
>To me, I don't want to shove things in the mouth of the woman that I love, the mother of my children. That to me, that shallow pursuit of pleasure, is not an act of love, but an action of dominance.
That's your opinion. If there's trust and respect between you two then it doesn't really matter as long they keep it behind closed doors. She could easily view as an act of desire or even dominance on her part. What matters most is respecting each other and talking to each other. Understanding what's ok and what isn't ok. I think there's such a thing as too much, but going down on each other isn't extreme.
>Just because we can do it doesn't make it right. Without any appeal to principle, I think we descend into a kind of anarchy of individualism, whereby objective truth is disregarded, and we are all isolated within our own relative truths.
Do you see what I'm saying in regards to modern dating? Why so many of the younger generation find it so hard? Because we are so absolutely atomized and disparate that we can't define those objective baselines of healthy intimacy.
And so my rebuke of you is summarizes as this:
Not sure if you read the rest of typed after that, but I said we should discourage the unhealthy side and encourage the healthy side of it.
>Subjective pleasure pursuits ultimately erode what is true and healthy, even if those pursuits contain an element of objective truth in themselves.
Moderation is key. That can't be said about all things like drugs, but an hour or two videogames isn't bad, whereas 5 hours of it is bad unless it's your job.

>>33664012
>Moderation is key. That can't be said about all things like drugs, but an hour or two videogames isn't bad, whereas 5 hours of it is bad unless it's your job.
Me and my girlfriend routinely have sex for 3 to 6 hours. It is the best experience ever.

>>33664032
If you have that much time to burn and the both of you are ok with it, then whatever I guess.

>>33664032
I think it is extreme no matter what. I think sex is solely for making children, the rationalizing of it as anything else seems degenerate, but we've been conditioned to pursue it from media and porn, yet it just isn't healthy. I'd rather go for a hike or go camping with my partner then waste hours sweating in the bedroom every day mouth fucking someone. My preference is aligned with objective health.
I don't think there is a healthy side to encouraging sodomy. I'm not a religious fag, but if we want to encourage health why would this ever enter into our consideration of health?
>Moderation is key.
Is it?
Would you recommend Heroine in moderation? Or murder in moderation? Or cyanide in moderation? Or child rape in moderation?
Principle would regard any action as false, no matter the severity.
Every day we go out and engage in these behaviors, ask yourself what they really amount to. After it's all said and done, what has really been achieved by engaging in these behaviors beyond cheap pleasure?
What has this really done for the good of mankind to advocate degeneracy in moderation?

>>33664068
Did you stop reading after those three words, anon?

>>33664068
>I think sex is solely for making children. I'm not a religious fag.
kek

>>33664068
You know I'm starting to believe you don't view sex as healthy at all, in any form or capacity. You just view it as an annoying bodily function that you have to begrudgingly deal with.

>I'd rather go for a hike or go camping with my partner then waste hours sweating in the bedroom every day mouth fucking someone.
Well there ya go. Sex, disgusting. It's like sex hurt you in someway and you have a personal vendetta against it.

>>33664103
Did you not read anything I said because I didn't highlight everything I was responding to?

>>33664364
Sex is healthy, if it's between a man and a woman who are in a committed relationship who are capable of bearing children.
So ya, fuck it, infertile people can't be in love, they're just degenerates rubbing flesh together to distract themselves from the harsh reality.
I'd rather hike and talk with my partner and work on things that matter. Sex is cool and all, but there are things I value more.

>>33664389
>infertile people can't be in love
you are insane

>>33655605
it's almost like they weren't avoiding the skin tone to begin with

>>33665875
shocking

>>33662126
>>33662224
My dweebga, you need to touch grass a bit more. Real life is not like those race purity warrior fanfics, certain behaviors are more common in certain "socioeconomic factors" demographics, and niggas have a right to use heuristics. NigOP wants to signal that he's not ghetto, and he's free to choose a black woman who does the same

>>33659799
no there aren't

I am your father. Your black father.

>>33666364
Not saying they're common, but they do exist.

>>33668464
No they don't

>>33670356
You're free to believe this if it makes you feel better.

>>33668411
That's not possible. A black man is incapable of being a father.

>>33670644
I know for a fact, because that is reality

>>33671645
Statistically speaking it's low and unlikely, but they do exist.

>>33670644 >>33671645
>I know you are but what am I
>I know you are but what am I
>I know you are but what am I
kek

Coons always lose to open white supremacy every time lmao

Its like rock paper scissors

>>33673719
The fuck are you talking about

>>33662739
Jew

>>33655605
*black
*White

>>33674701
Enjoying sex is not a Jewish invention man

>>33673719
Retard

>>33650407
>>I want to be ghetto trash who has low self esteem, only wants big 70iq dick, and has daddy issues

Just fuck some other race for once you goddamn stereotype.

>>33650407
Why not just get with a normal one? Not everybody has a racial preference.

>>33676711
>I want to be ghetto trash who has low self esteem, only wants big 70iq dick, and has daddy issues
I have no fucking idea what any of that means