My friend just found out that I've been giving him shit references.My friend has been extremely depressed for a year and a half because he can't find a job in his field and his life fell apart. The reason is because I, being one of his references, has been trolling him. I'm his third reference for a startup company we made a while ago, and instead of giving him a positive reference, I've been telling the hiring manager/HR caller that he was shit and a scammer and to never hire him.Well turns out one of the hiring managers spilled the beans on me and told him what I said as a reference. He's now PISSED off at me and fully cut me off. He is threatening to sue for slander because I told the hiring manager bunch of false shit about him that he argues is slander, and he can sue me for lying about him to the other employers too.His wife divorced him because he had to move out of his apartment and move back in with his parents and he lost his daughter and shit. He's saying that all this emotional damage is on me sabataging his job efforts and he's taking me to court, what chance do i have of not losing money?
>>33650431You're an absolute scumbag.
>>33650431>My frienduh why would you do that to a friend
>>33650509To fuck with him mostly.
>>33650431assuming this is real, yeah that's pretty much slamdunk defamation ggeznoreop
>>33650591But i wasnt saying it publicaly
>>33650640doesn't matter if they can prove you were acting maliciously
>>33650640Public would make it Libel. Its still slander. And usually youd be responsible for damages. Which, between actually costing this man income, his life, his sanity, his dignity, is very very high.You're in a massive fuck tonne amount of trouble if this isnt a troll.
>>33650431You don’t fuck with people’s livelihoods anon. Whatever happens, you brought on yourself.
>>33650640Anon if this is difficult for you to understand, Ill put it very simply.If you do anything intentional to anyone, and it has a real cost to them, you are liable.If you break someone's front door, you are liable to replace it.If you poison someone's dog, you are liable for their vet bills.If you cost someone their income, you are liable for their income.If you in the process cost them their marriage, their independence, their mental health, that just piles on even steeper penalties.It actually isnt difficult to understand. You break it you buy it. Our whole civil System is set up this way.
>>33650431Someone did something very similar to me. I am a bit angry, to say the least.
>>33650431yes you could be sued for defamation for this>>33650640defamation doesn't require the statement to be made publicly for the world to see, it just requires a "publishing" which means you said it to a third party. Which according to your OP is exactly what you did when you gave the false reference to a potential employer.
>>33650431If he proceeds with any sort of legal proceedings, you will 100% lose some sort of money from the usual law proceedings.If you aren't exaggerating and have been blatantly lying about the dude, you're probably going to be easily found liable for six figures unless you manage to find Saul Goodman as a lawyer.Good luck!
>>33651446Lol love how OP went quiet right quick.If not a troll, fitting his cruel joke stopped being funny once the cost was on him.
>>33651578I'm literally scared because i have like 100k saved up and i may lose it all, it's my whole life saving.
>>33651675well then make sure not to lose the case by stating that everything you said to the HR was true and make him look like shitty employer. you started this now you have to finish it. you already lost a friend, he's not gonna be friends with you no matter what you do now. that is unless you feel any sort of guilt, shame or empathy to what you've done in which case you'd accept responsibility and say the truth, losing money in the process
>>33651675What was your justification? What did you think would happen? There's always consequences to your actions in the real world.Did you think you were going to walk away free like an "oh so epic sociopath" type? At least they'd be smart enough to send anonymous letters while presenting a good and helpful face.Reap the consequences, buddy.
Whatever do you mean OP? These cretins in the comments are saying you slandered your friend, but in truth you just gave employers your honest feedback. That's not slander. If anything, what would be corrupt would be being your friend's reference and just praising him blankly. There's no slander, OP. You were just giving your honest appraisal. And y'know - he approached YOU for the reference - it's not your fault you gave an accurate one.
>>33651753>t. OPs solicitor
>>33651771See OP, what this commentator just made is a falsifiable claim. I am not your solicitor, and this can be proven through financial records, paystubs, etc. So long as you didn't make up claims that can DIRECTLY be proven false, well, you're not omniscient. You have ears, so maybe you heard things. Like you heard your friend was a poor worker. You feel your friend is selfish. Feel, hear, think - there's no legal punishment for that. Claiming that your friend stabbed a puppy on thursday may fourth 2021 - on the other hand... well then you might be in a pickle. But hearing your friend isn't the best with dogs... that's just concern and worry talking, not slander.
>>33651799Saul larp aside wouldn't it not work because he freely admitted to it here?
>>33651728I didn't even know slander was a thing or didn't think about it. I'm a dumb 28 year old and did this when i was like 26 and thought i wastaking the piss out of him.I didn't even do it to be mean I thought it was a funny prank.
>>33651799Oh shit Saul Goodman appeared
>>33651815This would have to be admitted to evidence. As long as no one goes digging for an anonymous 4chsn post on /adv/ find it in the archives, and also somehow proves this was in fact him, its useless.And as much as other anon is right, there will definitely be questions raised like "why even bother to br a reference if youre gonna talk shit. Just say no"
>>33651753>>33651799Thing is i directly made stuff up. I openly told fake stories of him stealing shit and sexually harrassing girls in the office. I even made up one story where I saw him grope a woman. That is the one that the employer told my friend about.
>>33651799that's exactly what i suggested here >>33651713OP literally said he was trolling him meaning whatever he said wasnt true (i know it could be interpreted as in he did not praise him solely because he was his friend) and also these informations could be easily checked i suppose (whether his friend did a good job or not..)
>>33651829>dumb 28 year oldThat works til you're like 21.. youre way into adulthood..>I didnt know slander was a thingOk that aside, at no point did you think "maybe costing someone their livelihood isnt that funny..."
>>33651834So just pay some people to lie about those things happening, even if you give each 5k-10k you'd still lose less than losing the case
>>33651846This is assuming hes going to be sued for slander instead of just forced to fess up and clear his reputation. It sounds like the friend is just pissed rightfully so.
>>33651675Should have saved 1000k and maybe you'd have a chance of keeping some 20k left. Next time you try fucking with someone make sure you're not some dumbass poor motherfucker that can lose everything.
>>33651753>>33651799Why do I hear sinister classical music when I read these two posts?
>>33651903>t. district attorney
>>33651912because that anon is hannibal lecter if he was a lawyer
>>33651913Maybe. But am I wrong?It's never a rich person pulling this kind of stunt. You'll never see someone with a harley davidson driving like a person of lower income drives with a NX150 and later crying because they spent all their life income on this piece of shit that's broken to pieces because they couldn't drive properly. If you're doing something that you can be sued for 500k, make sure you have 600k. That's it. Do not do things you can't afford. That's the lesson OP is going to learn.
>>33651753OP just made admissions here it was a lie. This whole thread is evidrence. Those statements are admissible in court against him.OP I recommend not making any more posts.
>>33651846I dont know how you people think the world works, but these people would be very, very thoroughly examined scrutinized and if OP is found to have brought in false witnesses hes adding felonies for himself and all involved..Like holy fuck, hear say and conjecture do not stand in court. You cant just walk in and say "he DID grope me!". Theres going to be a lot of questions and demands for evidence about who you are and what proof you have it happened. Especially since the defendant is very obviously going to say "ive never seen that person in my life".You people live in a fairytale built from the ground up on stupidity and never reading.
>>33651974>t. OPs friend
>>33650431yeah anon you quite easily lost this court case. GET FUCKING DESTROYED KIDDO
>>33651972>an archived anonymous post on some online image board on /adv being used as an evidence in court yea sure
>>33651903>>33651913Is the fact that I'm super rich going to help or hurt me?
>>33651931>If you're doing something that you can be sued for 500k, make sure you have 600k. That's it. Do not do things you can't afford. That's the lesson OP is going to learn.You should learn to read because I'm extremely wealthy. I'm at the point where if i have any more money i wouldn't be wealthy i'd just be disgusting.
>>33652077>You should learn to read because I'm extremely wealthy.Lovely. Did you read the >>33651675 I was addressing too or learning how to read just applies to others?Here, I'll even write down for you.>I'm literally scared because i have like 100k saved up and i may lose it all, it's my whole life saving.Please, learn how to be humble before asking for others to learn how to read, dipshit.
>>33652218I still have the 100k moron, I haven't lost it yet. So at least until I lose the case I'm extremely wealthy.Learn to read.
>>33652285Where the fuck is 100k extremely wealthy? Are you living in Ethiopia?That's what I had saved when I was 24 and I'm in Brazil.
>>33652285Ok I'll learn how to read if you learn how to not be stupid, how about that?100k by 28 means you saved 1.5k monthly from 22 to 28, assuming that's 20% of your salary, that puts your yearly salary at around 70k yearly. That's barely middle class in America, that's not extremely wealthy in any civilized country. How fucking stupid are you?
>>33652300The average net worth of someone my age is -50k.The top 5% of pepple my age have a networth over 70k.I'm somewhere in between the top 1 and 5%There's no country on earth where having even over 20k as someone under 30 doesn't make you exceptionally wealthy.
>>33652310>100k by 28 means you saved 1.5k monthly from 22 to 28, assuming that's 20% of your salary, that puts your yearly salary at around 70k yearly. That's barely middle class in America,Holy fuck learn not to be retarded.My salary out of school was 50k, which is still insanely wealthy, especially for someone under 30.Even a boomer earning 70k is incredibly rich anywhere on the planet except for a few tiny microstates like UAE and Qatar.
>>33652312And that's why you're getting sued by an easily avoidable situation. You're too stupid for your own good.You're not exceptionally wealthy by any metric, that's why I thought it was a different anon.100k isn't rich. And you're about to find that out soon. Good luck.
>>33652318>100k isn't rich. And you're about to find that out soon.Yeah you're incredibly dumb.You're using a device made by Congo Lithium slaves.If you're even rich enough to use this site on a thursday night you're a disgusting and discplable person. You're as stupid as you are evil.Also, I don't believe a Brazilian saved 100k at 24 when I, a WALLSTREET ANALYST wouldn't have saved that if i wasn't given a 50k grant from my parents.
>>3365231770k yearly means around 6k monthly, that's really not extremely wealthy at all. How poor did you grow up to think 100k saved makes you wealthy? That's not even enough for a steady passive income.
>>33652330Look at the way you're typing. Your self image is completely disconnected from reality, look at how emotive you are, why would typing your job like that change anything? That's just pride, you're not a human being acting like a reasonable person, are you? No. You're an WALLSTREET ANALYST with completely inflated ego finding out the hard way you're not extremely wealthy. That's why you're acting like a spoiled kid.You're getting the consequences for what you did, and I truly wish I could have any sympathy, but you're no better than the poor people around here using their government welfare money on online gambling.
>>33652336Unless you're an oligarch from Saudi Arabia, 70k is extremely wealthy.The very fact that we're both on this site on a Laptop/Iphone means we're far richer than we'll ever deserve to be.
>>33652336Half the world doesn't have bank accounts, if you literally have a means to deposit money you're rich.If you have tens of thousands you're a horrible human.
>>33652357I legit laughed at this. Thank you, man who spent 2 years ruining a friends life for giggles. I'll very much take your definition of a horrible human as a compliment.
>>33652366I don't know if you're the same anon but yeah if you're that rich in a world of inequality you're a gross person.Even i consider it sick to be this rich and if you aren't just talking shit, you have even more than $100k
op i think you have bigger things to worry about right now
>>33652408What?
>>33652394Well, from one gross person to another, I'm glad you're finally getting justice. Not having a penny left will purify you.I'm glad you'll get what you think you deserve, in the end, isn't that what happiness is all about?
>>33652427No, my entire goal in life is to get everything in life and succeed despite being shitty.Just like how you want more than you deserve.
>>33652456I just want Vasco to win
>>33652456Vasco won. I got what I deserve, so will you.
>>33651829congrats, youre a braindead moron/ complete sociopathyou deserve whats coming to you, and much worse, you just dont possess the capacity for introspection to understand it, and your ego is too big to accept it
>i prevented you from earning income... as a le joke!
>>33651829>Funny prankkek, you owe him bigly...
>>33650431Haha what the fuck I hope he does sue you. What a total piece of shit
OP, you are a sociopath. You are genuinely a sociopath who gets entertainment from severely hurting others. The next time you'll be hurting animals and then saying "lol just trolling".
>>33650431Maggots like you love the negative attention. Instead of taking matters to the court, i'll leave the justice to the One who created & sustains the force of the sun which is a billion times more powerful than you, and thats just a very tiny flex. The only real motion you will ever achieve is wishing on my downfall, which peaked in this pathetic post. You're a coward and all of your atoms will testify to it.
>>33650431Americans can’t really sue for slander and win. Just tell the judge that the guys a piece of shit so you expressed your opinion when asked. Lying is not against the law and if it is true in any way that you would not recommend him (obviously true) because you did not, then you did no wrong.
>>33651675You deserve it and worse, faggot. You're lucky he doesn't kill you. I would consider it justified because you have actively been ruining his life.
>>33650576I hope you're trolling us bro, this is literally demonic. Absolutely evil if true.
>>33650431Never fuck with with someones job/moneyLife
>>33650431You should kill yourself this instant. What the actual fuck is wrong with you
You make life worse by existing.
>>33657007>Americans can't sue for slander and winExcuse me? Yes you can.. People just dont understand how the law works generally (obviously you dont either..)You cant just sue someone for talking shit. There has to be real verifiable tangible damage to your life as a result. In OPs case, he cost his friend jobs, and lead to an uprooting of his life incurring more cost..>if its trueOP has been very clear it was lies, and they're also very, very outlandish lies that would be easily proven false. He does have a pretty strong case against him for slander.
I studied us employment laws. He has grounds to sue you. Get a lawyer.
