I was talking with someone today about what we would want the most in life if you could wish for anything. The discussion with several of the guys in the group was stuff like cars, nice houses, pools, material things. And i struggled to really say what i want because in my life i have always felt everything ive wanted has came and went, its not constant. Except for one thing. Ive always wanted a loyal girlfriend. Ive always wanted someone who is only giving nudes to me. Who is only sleeping with me, who isnt flirting with other guys or chatting her with her ex, who has the same level of attraction towards me as i do for them. I dont want to be her absolute last desperate choice tell she finds someone better. I want someone to cuddle up with and someone i am attracted to. Throughout my entire life that has been a constant want. I remember being like 6 years old and wanting basically that. As i got older i realized that there was something so horrifically wrong with me that that wasnt going to happen. So i ended up going to prostitutes which cost me thousands of dollars and left me more empty. I would like to never see another one again. Then i realized my biggest want is female validation and approval and i realized i was secretly this like simp bitch that could never admit this in person. The amount of change i would have to do to be able to be this person would require me to be a different person, like ten years ago. It is impossible for me, specifically, to get this. And its been a pain in the ass giving it up to the point where its practically tortured me and made it a constant obsession, and a constant confusion on why im so bad compared to these other guys and then being shown why i am so bad but the want still being there. I would love to not have this fantasy. I would love to not base my self worth off women. Anyone have tips to abandon this?
>>33653632Why the fuck do you think it's an unreasonable thing to want a faithful wife / girlfriend?Well you probably consumed too much incel shit. My recommendation: Stop that.My second recommendation: Work on yourself like your life depends on it, because the higher your market value, the more likely your """completely ridiculous dream""" will come true.You may now answer with defeatist bullshit.
>>33653644>Why the fuck do you think it's an unreasonable thing to want a faithful wife / girlfriend?Because the fact i am asking for it is already a redflag when other guys just get it. This should just be the default if you are high quality, or even mid quality. If you are constantly having trouble finding anyone, ever, there is something wrong with you especially where i live. >Well you probably consumed too much incel shit.I wish incels were right, i really do, i would love for it to be black and white chads and betas. That would make coping SO SO much easier. No, i meet guys who are worse than me all the time. Uglier, fatter, skinnier, poorer, rapists, abusers, whatever. They dont have this problem, they get to live my ridiculous dream over and over. And its why i dont want to work on myself to attempt to achieve this. Because none of them had to. They were good enough. Which tells me despite me thinking they are worse than me, to women i am worse than those guys are. Me PASSIVELY Is worse than rape for a lot of women. Which is crazy as fuck for me to think about. I am done with the "market value" rat race that gets me fuck all. I am done trying to learn that one little thing i might be missing and then i find out my "fix" list is 100 points long. At a certain point, you dont repair the house, you just condemn it and bulldoze it and start over. I cant exactly do that for my life so i am looking at other ways i can live without the lack of this eating away at me damn near every night.
>>33653657Do you want me to applaud and support you giving up? Fuck that: That's fucking pathetic.
>>33653644Furthermore having this level of desperation and obsession in a relationship would be fucking disastrous and is another reason why i shouldnt get into one. I feel like i am close to abandoning this dream, im just not sure if there is something i might be missing in that goal.
>>33653666No, constantly lusting over and wishing for pussy is far far more pathetic. Letting it have such a massive control over you that it lowers the quality of your life and you spend thousands of dollars paying for it is far more pathetic. A guy who doesnt care about women is 100x less pathetic as a guy who is constantly whining about how he doesnt have anyone and doesnt get laid and oh how he isnt this height or whatever other stupid bullshit thing. My dream is impossible for me, for a long long list of reasons i dont even want to all go over because i doubt i can list them all. I want to bury this control and power women have over me, so i can live my life without them. It is stupid and unhealthy for everyone involved.
>>33653676Cool mental gymnastics for rationalizing not fighting for what you want.If it helps you sleep better at night, alright, but don't come crying when you're 45 and realize you were retarded all along and missed out on literally fulfilling your own dreams because you were scared, lazy and a bit awkward.You are making the choices for your own future. Look at what it will look like and ask yourself if that is okay with you.
>>33653632Lol you want to find a partner, one of the most basic human needs and the only reason for you exist? So pathetic
>>33653632Women don't have the same sense of loyalty and honor towards men that men have towards women. They don't. You really need to understand and integrate this knowledge as soon as possible. Women being loyal and loving to men is the same type of fantasy that women have about men all being 6 foot 6 figures and 6 inches. They only feel that sort of unrequited love and loyalty for their children. I'm not saying this to besmirch women or calling you stupid, just as a point of fact. You have to have love for women the way the good Lord has love for lowly sinners.
>>33654090Then why do men cheat the most?
>>33653763>If it helps you sleep better at night, alright, but don't come crying when you're 45 and realize you were retarded all along and missed out on literally fulfilling your own dreams because you were scared, lazy and a bit awkward.That was going to happen anyways. The type of relationship I would get into at the age I'm at now(30) isnt going to be like the one I want because it's out of my control. I can't really change any of it or have very little wiggle room. I have accepted I am or at least have become, worse than 99% of guys >>33654033It's pathetic because no one else I know puts such a high insane worth on something so basic. It just happens to them and they live life but I am apparently broken and worthless. And I understand that worthlessness on a base level. I will never get what I am talking about because women view me as worse than rape. It greatly bothers me but I can't control it. Maybe, though, I can control my wants.>>33654090I get this and have understood it for years. What's funny though is I see women at least pretend to love guys who are worse than me. I think my problem isn't wanting to be loved or be in a relationship but just the fact I am apparently so bad to at least 50% of the population. I think this want has morphed into a want of recognition and a desire to be seen as successful and put together. This hasn't happened, and I hate having to accept being a subhuman failure. I am not entirely sure how to fulfill this other than being an overachiever
>>33654123>why do men cheat the mostNo stat says this anywhere and even if it did it's because a significant percentage gets filtered. Idk what that number is but it has to be over 50%. The ones who are left, for some godforsaken reason, have a ton of options despite being manchildren. Them being manchildren means they have low self control and take things for granted.
Same. Pale white wife without tattoos and piercings that doesn’t worship blacks is all I want in life, sadly they only want to racemix. I’ll never get to be with a young woman of my own race. I’m 31 now and every day I wake up with an erection and feel despair knowing I’m going to suffer like this for eternity. I will be shamed for being white even after I die.
>>33654591I've actually debated going to like South East Asian or Latin America and finding some woman there. I've never wanted kids. My standards are dumpster low but somehow realistic. Don't be super fat. Don't be a bitch 60% of the time, don't be older than my mom or too young to drink. Also white women don't race mix all that often stop watching BNWO porn it's retarded and doesn't reflect reality.
>>33653657>>33653666This. Kill yourself. If you kill yourself I'll feel mildly bad for you
>>33654623Asians aren’t attractive to me and their body odor smells like Asian restaurant. And I don’t watch BNWO I think blacks are ugly. I just see literally every attractive teen white woman is with some chubby black guy or they have black children with them, and if I see them at work I look them up and see black boyfriend on their Facebook.
>>33654762I think dying is probably the only way out for this, its like living with chronic pain that cant be fixed. I should look at it like that, i wonder if anyone who has chronic mental or physical illnesses could give me advice for dealing with it. Also we live in a time period now where not even famous celebrities like brad pitt can have loyal girlfriends or wives. Why in the everloving fuck would i assume i could have that? And with prostititutes its clear to me sex and physical contact is worth like $500/hr. I cant provide that level of value. Asking a girl out is like asking for $500 in a way, of course she is going to say no.
>>33653763>Cool mental gymnastics for rationalizing not fighting for what you want.Fighting for what you want is desperation. Which is the least attractive thing you can be as a man. To improve yourself because you have a problem with it for idk personal aesthetic reasons or health reasons is one thing, to do it for pussy is absolutely pathetic. What i am talking about is currently i am living for pussy. Since i was a child i have lived for women, i have lived for the love and approval of women, i have chased women. And its got me no where but humiliation and shame. When you have no choices though, it doesnt matter what you do, you either have to give up on this fantasy, which is ridiculous btw for a below average or even average guy, and learn to live for yourself. I want to be able to say to all women, no, go fuck yourself, all the way into my 30s and 40s. I dont plan to cry alone, because i wont care. I will be free of their judgement and approval and i will finally be able to tell all of them i want nothing to do with them
>>33655007No one fucking cares retard
This is the most common problem in this site. Tfw no gf :(. I think the solution is to get off the computer for a bit and see if your life recorrects after not having wifi for a bit
Why dont threads like this get deleted? OP never wants advice, just to bitch and get validation for being a pussy.Fuck this board, seriously.Captcha: 42WAH
>>33655706Not only that but op is asking for something biologically impossible and expecting anons to know how to do it. Monks train for decades to achieve this. It goes against all that is human. But yeah, random mfers on 4chan will know.Waste of text really
This got off track. My original point was I feel like it's pathetic to not have greater goals than "muh gf" or "getting laid". I think that should be a small part of life not my main unbelievable goal. That's what makes it pathetic and it's pathetic because it overrides everything else in life. I shouldn't be living for women, my main wish shouldn't be something that others get for free easily and without problems.
>>33653632So your word salad boils down to, how can I stop being a simp?Devote your life to a higher purpose. Women are disgusted by men who devote themselves to women, because they know how much women suck.
>>33655068>Fighting for what you want is desperation. Which is the least attractive thing you can be as a man.Holy fucking shit this is the most pathetic cope I have ever heard in my life. Are you seriously so deluded you think every man who has ever fought for what he wanted in life, men who struggled against adversity and became heroes, are desperate losers? You really believe freedom and happiness come from complete and total surrender? Christ, it's a miracle you're still alive with that kind of defeatist mindset.
