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What's a good way to meet girls at Target? Tired of dating apps, but no idea how to really meet organically.
In my town, it's the only spot you'd see consistently hot girls, especially around the Starbucks area.
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>>33656126
walk around in a red polo, women love a man in uniform
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>>33656126
Easy.

First, Target is a woman-dominated space. There’s no music, so having a random conversation is a bit awkward with eavesdropping. However, you can create opportunities. Here’s some ideas:

1) Buy something with the intention of returning it. You will meet the customer service ladies.

2) Ask for an item that they’re out of with a floor person. It’s called the Ben Franklin effect, and sending her on a mission builds an encounter. Whenever I get help like this, I always tell them I give them a 5-star name call out on Google Maps (This helps their job and gives them something to gossip about - they LOVE this.)

3) Comment on nearby items. This can help you build a commonality.

4) Get to know the Starbucks girls. Most are standoffish due to the nature of their job, but if you tip and remember their names in subsequent visits, you become “safe”. Women pick up on this.

4b) Get a coffee before you shop. This is a status symbol. Remember, coffee is expensive and the girls at Target can’t afford this. You now automatically have a class advantage.

5) Shop with a basket, not a cart. I do this as an exercise but having a basket gives you a “man on the mission” vibe. You also get a flexed bicep. Swap hands when necessary.
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>>33658509
I honestly don't know which is more depressing - that OP asked for help in meeting girls and Target ( downmarket department store chain, for the non-Yanks) was the best place he could think of - or that you have a full plan worked out for doing it.
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"Hey I genuinely have no idea how to find anything in this store, so I figured I'd ask the hot regular for guidance. My name is anon"

Himbomaxx
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>>33656126
Chloroform and rope (Aisle 14B)
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>>33658703
>depressing
shoo shoo gains goblin

Having a strategy is just smart. Do you wear sweatpants to the bar? No, you optimize for the setting.

I’ve been with 70+ bodies, and I’ve met them at donut shops, live shows, bus stops, during Santacon, bars, and at retail stores. I optimized each time and was successful. I optimize for Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, and Co-ops for tasty collegiate crease. Currently, the girls at Panera and Meijer’s call me Daddy (no joke) and I use this as a benchmark for how I’m perceived.
>5’ 8” 190lbs shaved balding
And I still get laid

Target is a good strategy, but it’s a woman/dominated place. You could try the adjacent stores to Target, which is usually a supermarket, restaurants, Panera, etc. The same women shop in these places and your proximity to their routines means your lives will intersect.

>>33658717
This but unironically. If you’ve ever worked in retail, you’ll hear women chat about hot customers and they all line to be whisked away by a wealthy man (or at least wealthier than them).
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>>33659595
>I also forgot:
Act like you belong.

Women choose Target because it’s one step above Walmart. They feel safer there. The quality of woman you’ll find there won’t be hamplanets but instead mothers, old people, and students. Each of these demographics has an optimal time to shop, and it’s based on the area.

Also, different shifts have different women. Early weekday shifts are single mothers, dropouts, empty nesters. Students work weekends and off hours, like swing shift.
>here’s where you come in
Ask a girl out around closing. Sure she may be tired, but inviting her out for a meal or drinks (your treat) might be the Cinderella story she has in her head. There’s an O’Charly’s or Applebees usually nearby that she couldn’t possibly turn down. Remember, if you want to fuck em, you gotta feed em.
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>>33656126
Meet normal girls normally, don't be tripping over your own dick chasing after girls down the chips aisle just because they're hot.

Why does it have to be a hot girl? Why can't it be a nice normal girl?
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>>33659595
>>33659615
I think OP was referring to the customers being hot, not them as employees.
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>>33659595
>I’ve been with 70+ bodies
sounds fulfilling
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>>33659595
>I’ve been with 70+ bodies
>>5’ 8” 190lbs shaved balding
>And I still get laid
really activates the almonds

>>33659632
sounds like he he's been hitting 70+ absolutely dogshit 0/10 single moms and sheer goblinas and desperately ghosting them after a single fuck once the post-nut clarity kicked in. rinse and repeat

dude probably has to drive 4 towns over to do his regular groceries to avoid any of his ex plap cows
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>>33659627
Why not both? Both are valid.

>>33659623
>normal girl
Normal girls are hot girls. Demure is what you want; attracting attention behavior from women (ie. Boobs out, hot pants, flashy attire, red clothing for customers) tends to be a cattle call and those women are best avoided or just used as target practice. Here’s what I use:

“Miss, I just wanted to let you know you look great.”

You can close in that or just do it for yourself to get comfy. Expect nothing and just resume your shopping experience. If she’s receptive, get practice in rejecting her. It gives you options. If she’s giggles and laughs genuinely, other women can hear it (and want to be part of the excitement, however benign).

>>33659632
It is. I’ve had plenty of relationships and about a 1/3 of those were threesomes (MFF) and a few foursomes (MFFF). I’ve had weekend getaways with 10 women and three dudes (both were shy libs) in a cabin with a hot tub.

Stop with your negativity. Women are BEGGING you to say hello.
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>>33659682
>>33659595
>>33659615
>I'm a 5'4 300 lbs man who's fucked 700 women who were all 10/10 hot and I've had a dozen threesomes with a half dozen foursomes as well as five fivesomes and a partridge in a pear tree and also been in plenty of long term relationships and I was married 5 times and also I went to the moon and back before I turned 20 years old

come on dude
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>>33659688
>cmon dude
I prefer women like pic rel
>reverse image search comes up with…
Your sad, unimaginative life up to this point. Or, I dunno, what advice do you have??
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>>33659702
>4 dudes and 2 hookers

fun weekend with the bros?

Why would you even have 70+ bodies to begin with? Why not fuck the same girl more than once?
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>>33659713
Because he's unbearable
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>>33659713
Not him, but the whole point seems to be build up repertoire with different women, thus making the process of meeting and fucking them easier each time. >>33659682
Clueless virgin here. More advice regarding flirting is welcome
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>>33659724
>build up repertoire with different women, thus making the process of meeting and fucking them easier each time
It stops being difficult after like 2 girlfriends.

There's no way dude was up to his 50th single mom hookup and was still like "hhmmm, this still isn't easy ENOUGH"
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>>33659713
Those are ravers in Europe you dunce. That’s my gf and two dudes who crashed our photo.

>why not fuck the same girl more than once?
When did I say I didn’t? I used to have a stable. The most I had in one week was 5, 3 in one day.

>your naysaying and advice is invalid
Bye

>>33659718
Haters gonna hate
>my week, your year (if that)

>>33659724
This.

>It stops being difficult after like 2 girlfriends.
Also this. I NEVER have sex with single moms. The few I had were girls at work when I was 20. I just rejected a lady who hid her kid which had drug-related birth defects and a deceased husband. The more you flirt, the more standards you can enforce.

>>33659724
>Flirting advice
I recommend not. Flirting is not what we’re talking about. It can work, but you can form real connections and a “story” that frames your narrative of a new relationship.

The idea, and what everyone gets wrong, is that you’re playing a numbers game. People fluctuate in receptivity to approaches based in tons of factors. You can’t possibly know them all, so you just just become a social person.

Practice with cashiers. I just went shopping a complimented an old lady on green tomatoes and Nila wafers she was buying. This started a convo about asking if she was from the south. The old lady couldn’t quite hear me, so I backed off and smiled. THAT’S all you gotta do.

Nest before that, I stopped off for a coffee and the guy filling up the iced tea said to me, unprompted, “oh wow, you’re not putting anything in that?” No, I said, I’m going in raw. He laughed, I laughed, and the onlookers smiled (whom I vetted before saying a sexually-suggestive thing).

I also say hello to the door greeters and even comment on the weather.

>what’s this all about
You have to fight social isolation. The reason you don’t know how to “flirt” with women is that YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO TALK TO ANYONE. You need to convince yourself that you’re normal.
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>>33659800
So, to you flirting isn't really a tool which its use can be rationalized and then consciously used to obtain one's desired outcome (fucking women), since human interactions have a high degree of unpredictability, but rather a natural (and more subtle, unconscious) consequence of one's adaptability to said interactions that can be honed through a constant flow of different kinds of social exposure, especially with women. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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>>33659800
>When did I say I didn’t?
because the logistics of having porked 70+ (half decent looking) women, and having been in relationships, and being a bald manlet, and being someone who feels compelled to post private pictures on 4chan doesn't add up.

and now you're telling dudes to not flirt, and instead be like "hoo boy that weather huh?" to the wal mart greeters and complimenting old ladies on their green tomatoes
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>>33659800
>I NEVER have sex with single moms.
>>33659615
>Also, different shifts have different women. Early weekday shifts are single mothers, dropouts, empty nesters.

This guy fucks elderly women and single moms
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>>33659895
Although it is somewhat hard to believe his posts entirely, he definitely is the only one who seems to be giving actionable advice and arguing in good faith. If you're gonna keep replying as an opposing figure, at least provide counterpoints to show how he may be wrong
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>>33659912
>giving actionable advice and arguing in good faith
he's currently saying that flirting is not what you should do when trying to get women, you should instead be saying howdy to 80 year olds.

and then in another post >>33659682
>“Miss, I just wanted to let you know you look great.”
which is the most autistic version of trying to flirt with someone

I can't provide counterpoints to completely fabricated nonsense

I can try, if that's what you want

Counterpoint: flirting is good, actually.

I already expressed myself in that chasing after strangers in a target is a shit idea, unless you're both a couple of adults in the toy aisle looking to buy toys for yourselves and can bond over your love of Legos or whatever.
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>Logistics
What logistics? What hamplanets? Sure, not all are pretty but that’s a slim minority (10%) but I think most men would be shocked just how easy it is to bed down a woman. I’ve had three sex encounters simply by asking a girl if she wants to fuck.

I actually have WAY more success being bald. I don’t care about losing my hair and women call me daddy in bed.
>spiritually bald

>not flirting
Flirting is dangerous for newbies (OP) and if you fuck it up from inexperience, you can be socially ostracized. It happens, and it even happened at a bar I used to work at (I was visiting my old friends). Some girl had a traumatic experience to me saying “Miss, you look lovely today.” The girl had an inordinate response but her friends apologized for her. My old coworker hooked me up with a beer and said that it was typical for how the neighborhood changed (PDX in ‘05 versus ‘15). THATS why I say just be social, until you can calibrate what’s permissible and what’s not.

Now, the green tomatoes line is about being social. By talking to people, you exercise that skillset—other people are watching you too and if you frequent these places, women will gravitate to you. This one girl with a bobcut has bagged my groceries this past month, which is weird because I saw catch a glimpse of me when the line was 4 deep.

>where we differ
I pride myself in being able to have the balls to spark a conversation with anyone and opening up a dialogue all the time.

In fact, the reverse happens to me all the time. I had a lady say she loved my bread type in line, and before I finished my purchase, we were already talking conspiracy theories about which food is still good to eat. The lady winked and her husband grunted in approval. How did this happen? I let a mother and her kids go ahead of me in line.
>you know, being social…

Now, the fact that you don’t see that sexual targets and everyone else are the same is why women aren’t giving you openings.
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>you should instead be saying howdy to 80 year olds.
Women are social creatures and they can tell if you’re comfortable. You’d be surprised at what “tells” you’re giving off. Kind of like the dude who says “it’s impossible” or “grandma this grandma that” — he’s telling us that if it isn’t possible for him, it doesn’t exist. Which is cognitive dissonance.
>here’s another pic rel
>inb4 she’s fat, lushly, tattood, smoker, etc.
I have more until you get rid of the naysaying.

>toy aisle
Get help. Why would a single man be in the toy section?

MORE ADVICE:
>always be presentable
I always dress up. Button up shirt and slacks, but casual fitting. A key tip I use that makes a better approaches-success ratio is to wear cologne. I wear a subtle one and make my own essential oil mix (sandlewood, patchouli, clary sage, vetiver), no deodorant and I use Kirk’s Castile soap. This means that she can already smell me from a few aisles away. It also subcommunicates that you a) have excess wealth to spend, b) care about how you present yourself, and c) distinguish yourself from the unwashed masses. I also recommend a bidet because ever since I did, I can smell peoples assholes through their unclean anus (and yuck!).

Bear in mind, I was homeless a few times and still always got laid because I’d wash frequently and wear eucalyptus soap.
>lesson: giving a shit about yourself communicates to women you can care for them.
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>>33660153
>Why would a single man be in the toy section?
I have a friend who is 35 who really likes building Lego's. He'll look for the ones that have a lot of pieces that takes a week or two to build.

However, I also go to look for gifts for my cousin's kids.
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That’s permissible behavior. Of course, you probably don’t want to hit on women near tampons, sanitary napkins, or contraceptives; however, if it’s a plausible situation and you’re pure of heart, you can go anywhere.

it’s really about the energy you put out. You just don’t want to do anything that can be perv-related or intrusive, and it shouldn’t be “I must talk to this girl to meet my daily quota.” It should feel natural and the only reason it doesn’t feel natural is that you can’t even say “how are you, sure is raining out there…” to a store greeter.

I’ll give you an example of “flirting” in practice:

I notice a girl cashier has a bandage on her arm and during a transaction, I say to her, “oh wow, what happened to your arm?”

“A dog bit me.”

“Yikes, it looks painful.” Then I paused and played the fool, “Did you bite the dog back?”

She laughed. “Oh no, I didn’t get a chance.”

“Ah geez, you can’t let them win!”

That same girl gets my coffee even before I get to the counter and I told her she has mind reading powers. I also act faux-shocked and she plays along. The idea is that you can be funny and absurd to bring some levity. obviously she shouldn’t bite the dog, nor is there a competition to “win” against animals. But through flirting, you’re introducing uncertainty and excitement that punctuates the day.
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>I missed this before
This is probably the best summation of my ethos about picking women up in your daily life. Thank you

I discovered this all by happenstance and later informed it through some of the early red pill stuff.

In my situation, I was homeless in PDX at 21 and had no place to sleep besides park benches in February, let alone eat besides the shelters/feeds. Before this, I had a few gfs but now my entire life was at stake. So, I created an extroverted persona by necessity and just started to hitting up as many people as I could to be friendly. Because Portland was much smaller back in the day, I’d walk back and forth between neighborhoods (Hawthorne/Belmont to Nob Hill, PSU to Clackamas county, etc), and just started to treat everyone the way I wanted to be. I wrote zines and one-sheets, and hid them on the MAX and in the library. Even just this got me laid, albeit with a troubled girl. I met a dude at a coffeeshop and he turned out to drive the streetcar, so then I got free rides and girls I was friends with were like, “How do YOU know him?” Like I said, being social (and also got me laid).

I also became incredibly social in attending events and putting myself out there. I’d start to recognize people from other places, and I noticed that I’d be pre-vetted or blocked based on my behavior. Soon, I started to bring friends together, invite them to weird gatherings, and start getting dates or adventures. We always had something going on, so women were curious to tag along.

Then, I started to get a reputation as a musician once I got housed (I was living in office space) and we started to get a following (and an invitation to open for Daniel Johnston).

Eventually I had to leave during the recession, so I decided to busk across America. Armed with my new social skills, I tried them out everywhere and crossed the country at least 6 times. Then I met a girl and we dated for 5 years and traveled the world.

Always be friendly.
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>>33658703
how is that sad to have a plan?
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>>33658509
>4b) Get a coffee before you shop. This is a status symbol. Remember, coffee is expensive and the girls at Target can’t afford this. You now automatically have a class advantage.
extremely based advice
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>>33659615
>>33659595
>>33658509
if I hire a sugar baby to be my wing women will this expedite the process?
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>>33660307
I am autistic and joke around like this with most women I talk to. Is that why my married co-worker keeps inviting me to get lunch and even to hang out at her house?
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>>33658509
>Get a coffee before you shop. This is a status symbol. Remember, coffee is expensive and the girls at Target can’t afford this. You now automatically have a class advantage.
Kek getting starby before shopping is a ritual for like half of all target shoppers
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>Hey bb when u get off work? I can that you to applebees
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>>33660678
It sounds like he is an unhappy person. These people are in the camp of “you’re just supposed to know!”, which also makes it weird when we’re in a place for people asking advice. I just like to help and I find giving actionable, relevant advice always draws hostility. Which is why I had to get the nudies out because they’ll try every trick in the book to preserve their prison. Many such cases. SAD.

>>33660685
Thanks. I didn’t even get into the super-based shit, or the experimental stuff. Again, once you have the ability to call birds from the bush, you tend to see finding a woman much like buying an expensive appliance that requires a ton of maintenance. Which is why you should vet them heavily.

If you ask me, coffee shops are the best for finding women. But Target or any women-safe area is a viable place. I’m sure gyms work, but I prefer to work out in solitude.

For those that are more shy but talented (and if approaching is scary), I recommend just hitting up a park near a college and playing your instrument (or painting/drawing). It’s like a soft way to get exposure without risk. I’ve met many friends and lovers this way. Hell, I was in Copenhagen and a girl swooped in to listen to me play. She got spooked when my gf came back with a pastry, but invited us/me to hang out with her friends in Christiania (the illicit weed place). I did this in San Luis Obispo, CA and Keene, NH, too, and I had nightly female visitors come up to listen or just decompress from their day.

As for bars, one way I’d get laid was to just bring a notebook or sheet music and just write stream of consciousness. It helps to have a good bar to do this in and to do it during 5pm - 8pm, as you look dedicated to your art. Which you should be.
>blog you for reading my thank
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Women can spot these types. I can too, and if you were looking for gold diggers, this might be the go/to, but then why not just fuck the sugarbaby?

Taking old family members out works, too. Showing a selfless side helps, so even just holding the door or helping an old lady with bottled water packs gets their positive attention.

Same goes for dog parks. I was helping my friend dog sit for a few months, so I took her beautiful red husky with dichromatic eyes (RIP snuggle bunny) and trained her to do funny tricks. One trick was to make the dog wink a certain eye to “tell the future” - brown if yes, blue if no. So I’d walk around and when girls would ask to pet her (see pic rel), I’d say yes but she will have to read tell your fortune. Later on, I saw one girl at a bar down the street, so her and her friend “just so happened” to catch me outside smoking a cig. Next thing I know, they’re wheeling me in a shopping cart down Glisan Street by Mount Tabor at 2am on a Wednesday.

My point is that this was all just to be social. Target or otherwise.
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>>33660754
The idea is to get her comfy some place near. If she’s really into you, you’ll probably just text her throughout the day and meet her at a bar when she gets out of work clothes. But the more opportunities she has to say, you know what, I’m tired, the more she is to cancel.

So yeah, AppleBees helps her C the D
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>>33660771
it's even more based your an artist. the shy artist advice is great for me. Do you have any advice for dating models or women into fashion? I'm thinking that 5'9''-5'11'' women that are in fashion have a hard time getting dates with men since they're the average height of men
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>>33660823
>Women can spot these types
How can they spot these types?
>but then why not just fuck the sugarbaby?
because paying for sex isn't that hot. paying someone but picking up a non-sex worker for sex is hotter. Ideally having a gf who is bisexual and wants threesomes would be better
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>>33660833
Thank bro.

I used to date a few model-tier chicks and my best lady homie/galpal art girl won the Junk to Funk contest in PDX back in the day (she studied at the art school in town).

My advice is to go to the weird places - I met her back at an artsy food place that I can’t mention cuz it’ll dox her/me, and I just kept making showing up each night she was there.
>yes this was planned

She was 20 and I was newly 21, so I just complimented her hairstyle and made jokes at the normies. Then, I started to busk with the bums outside and any money we made was for food and her tip money. I eventually bought a six pack of Pabst before it was shit, and invited her to hang out. She dug the idea, we drank, and we exchanged online deets.

Models are tough, as it is an all-consuming discipline like ballet. Which means these people tend to be siloed with others in their thing and their choice of partner has serious effects on their careers. So I’d have a complimentary skillset, like photography and take it seriously. Then, once you’ve established a rapport, you can proceed as normal until you’re balls deep (in love).

Height doesn’t matter, and most tall women are insecure about their height. I fingerbanged this Australian cruise ship singer and she was 6’ 4” after she caught me banging this equally tall Viking girl with a skinhead haircut at a hostel in Austin. I’m comparatively short but these girls just wanted to sex and fun. I literally had to stand on my tippytoes to penetrate them from behind.

Now long/term, I don’t know, but short-term relationships and sex were easy just by lining up the logistics.
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>How can they spot these types?
It’s subtle rapport. It’s the way you can tell married couples from newly weds. For example, being in a couple would have solved the “who holds the door for who” of entering places, or how you order food. It’s subtle but a sugarbaby wouldn’t know what to order for you when you need to go to the bathroom. Or, she wouldn’t offer to eat leftovers. Little things, and you won’t be able to outsmart all of them.

It will sound woo-woo, but there’s an energetic match that occurs when you’re with a lover. The same goes for potential lovers. I find that this love feeling has always been in place BEFOREHAND when I’ve found a new lover or even a hookup. You can also feel it leave, too. But that’s why I emphasize “meaningless” socialization. It feels as good as doing a good deed and being loved by all. He’ll, it’s even nice to be hated as confirmation that you’re doing something right
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>>33660907
would it be easier if you're 6'4'', stupid question I know but specifically for tall women
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>>33660939
hmm so it's better to try to pick up girls with a fwb or a gf? Do you have any advice for convincing a girl to add other girls to a relationship or have closed polyamory
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>>33660971
I can’t answer that, but I had a tall friend and he could pull women easily. He is also really gregarious and worked at Bourdain’s restaurant in NYC, so I think you have a natural advantage just from the sheer uniqueness of your height. Conversely, I grew up with my Jewish friend and he was 6’ 2” at 15 and he didn’t get any pussy until 30x when he met a schizo Canadian girl on WoW. He was a bit of a slob but had no personality, so even height wasn’t the sole factor. He just had his gallbladder and kidney stones removed, so by popular definition, he should’ve been sexing it up. But no, learned helplessness and misery.
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>>33660984
>Fwb vs gf
Good question. I can give you several based answers of arcane knowledge. Use them for good:

1) When women are sexually aroused, nearly all go into “subspace”. This means they are submitting to you in both body and mind. Which means it’s a safe space for her to live out taboo fantasies - and also a place for you to implement your fantasies to keep her interested. If you’re into dirty talk, you can start to drop sexual hints for whatever you want. It imprints and she’ll associate sexual possibilities and arousal with what you suggested.
>unethical, but it’s the same hypnotic effect as The Gateway Tapes or billboard advertising

2) Drugs help. MDMA makes it a real possibility and doing it in group settings more often than not leads to group sex. Isolate the women, distract the unwanted males, and blatantly fuck in front of your friends. Burning Man is built off this.

3) There’s a sexual window when a relationship starts when you define wants and don’t wants. For a gf, you can make it a pragmatic decision (her: “we both can enjoy her, just no kissing”). With my fwbs, some get skeeved out by STDs.

4) Let her do the work to pick up in nightclubs. Remember, if you show too much enjoyment over a new partner, she will resent it and seem like you’re only using her. Instead, you have to frame it like you’re her emotional support for HER choice. My ex’s all loved a dare or a challenge, so that can help keep the excitement and reignite the spark.

>whoops
I think I misinterpreted it as getting threesomes versus picking up women. Here’s my experience:

1) Having close female friend that you can joke with makes other women pine for you. It shows you’re a trustworthy person.
2) Be aware that not all women want to be hit on after they see you with another. Some think you might be cheating or a fuck boy.
3) Be complimentary drawing parallels between the two. “Oh wow, she’s got the same xyz as you! Doppelgängers!”
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>>33660077
>What logistics?
the logistics of you being a clearly autistic namefag on 4chan claiming to have fucked 70+ models in your very short lifetime with such epic lines as “Miss, I just wanted to let you know you look great.”


Miss? Is she 40 years older than you?

>>33659904
>This guy fucks elderly women and single moms
confirmed
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>>33661082
It's not really "unethical" do you have anymore unethical pro tips? you really are the most knowledgeable poster in this forsaken board of miserable weenies
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>>33661097
I didn’t say I fucked 70 models. These are normal women from all backgrounds - one girl I dated lived next to the Guggenheim, another was some black chick with a pitbull I fucked in Northampton MA. Just because you can’t conceive it doesn’t mean it’s not possible.
>more women to shut you up - pic rel
>yes, THESE ones ARE models

>clearly autistic
It’s called high IQ.

>very short lifetime
Nigga I’m 40

>epic line
“Miss” is the most neutral way to address someone. I have never used a pickup line in my life.

>elderly
Oldest was 54 and she shit the bed. Never again.

>single moms
only two. One Peruvian chick with two kids, and one girl in Pueblo West who didn’t tell me until the last day I saw her (her husband took her kid).

Beyond
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>>33661119
>miserable weenies
Agreed.

>more unethical life tips for finding bitches
Sure.
Here’s a bunch that I use for profit:

1) A woman’s cycle tends to be every 28 days (luteal, follicular). Most are too busy to even know their cycle, but if you can get the first name of a girl, chances are you can find her on Facebook/instagram. Now, look for “fishlips“ or provocative posting, and I can guarantee you’ll see her post the same damn types of photos 28 days apart (usually with a 5-day window). This means she’s horny and amenable to new men. Find out her shift and proposition her then. Conversely, romantic overtures work 14 days in between. Play both roles.

2) Have a boner when walking down the street. Not like full-tent pitch, but think sexual thoughts and feel the blood engorge your loins. Don’t wear underwear, and just fill out your shit. You can catch women, gay dudes, and even young girls (!!!) ponder your orb. This is a MASSIVE confidence boost and girls will talk about you if you’re in a small college town.

3) Pay attention to ways that women flirt in their passing body language. Look for hair flicks as she comes into view, scratching of wrists, fondling herself or thrusting her hips toward you. One girl in this coffeeshop in Olympia used to bend all the way forward in front of me to throw her garbage away and show her underwear off to me. I thought it was a coincidence until she tracked me down into the library and put in this show for me, pretending to write a letter to her friend but posing her pussy at me and rubbing her breasts.

4) Wear dark red if you’re clubbing. Women can see 20% more color than men, so they relate sex to this color.

5) Develop wit. If you can be goofy and self-deprecating while still being confident, people look forward to dealing with you. Have a couple of dirty and clean jokes - I suck at telling jokes, but if she fake laughs or finds it funny, she’s at least a nice person.
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(Con’t.)
6) casually drop hints of sophistication interspersed with nonsense. For example, you can be talking about inane stuff like sports teams but make sure to drop some ten-penny words from time to time. One adaptable word I use to do this is “facetious”. Another is “extemporaneous”, and even foreign loan words - “gestalt”, “je ne sais pas”, “zeitgeist”. The idea you’re trying to implant is that you’re somehow educated but pretending to be stupid to downplay your intelligence. It gives you an air of mystery, and that’s very seductive.

7) This one I hate because I don’t like tearing people down: Find the loser/punching bag at her job or social setting, and remark on what a drag that person is. If she agrees, now you have a common gripe. The most ethical way is to complain about “corporate” or some non-physical entity, but if there’s a shitty worker, pile on. It shows that you know that she knows and can form the basis of your early rapport.

8) Gold digger alert: I used this once but writing your number on the back of an ATM receipt with a substantial balance works. Money talks, but I can’t vouch for long-term gf material. Works in “destination” cities like NOLA.

9) Hypnotic induction. Learn it from Milton Erickson, as well as NLP from John Grinder/Richard Bandler. If you e ever had a conversation with a schizo that you couldn’t get out of, chances are they inducted you (inadvertently). You can do this pleasurably and add suggestions.

10) If you need a few beers to approach, don’t feel bad. Women know that many men are oppressed in one way or another, so they’ll forgive some beer breath if you tell her she looks pretty and don’t act like stupid.

11) Find out who her dad is. If she likes him, dress like him. If not, find her male role model (it’s usually a “safe” male) and befriend that person. SAFETY lets them feel free to engage in sex, which is not always safe.
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>>33661231
(Cont.)

12) If you’re out of practice or afraid to chat with women irl, use Ome.tv or the Omegle equivalents. See if you can talk to women or what catches their attention. Your mission is exposure therapy and getting those reps in. It can be disheartening to have a good chat and then disappear, but you should just get used to this “rejection”. And if you do feel bad, just do what I do: yell at Indians until they hang up on you.
>Payback, bitches alalalalalalaaaa!

13) Practice in a different town than where you live. If you suck, follow all this advice in the next town over. I still have catastrophes in my youth that make me cringe, but I’m glad I don’t have to see those people ever again.

14) Seducing rich people is different than poor people. Rich girls tend to look for novelty and money, whereas poor girls want stability and novelty. The last time I took a poor girl out, she had never been to a restaurant in town. All it took was a veggie burrito and a margarita and she rode my dick for hours. When I cooked homemade tendies for her, she cried. Rich girls tended to accept this as a matter of course, but a novel experience like mini golf or eating at a trendy place (ie. try Thai food, sushi, Dubai chocolate!) is a chance for them to build out their social media if they use it. Flatter their ego.

15) Avoid politics and religion at all costs. I was in a date with a Tinder chick and a fight between a hippie couple went down. He pulled a knife on her, so I interrupted our date, squashed the beef with another dude who saw what was going on. When I got back, the girl asked “Are you a Trump supporter?” I said I wasn’t but I’d rather wait and see (this was 2015). Despite the heroic act, the French wine, baguette, and Camembert, she got up and left in a huff.

16) DONT GET HIGH WITH NEW GIRLS. Unless she offers, I’ve had more women get the paranoia in their head and freak out despite no inclination towards that.

17) Find the smokers area
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>>33661286
>>33661231
>>33661187
great advice, thank you. You should start a blog or website, I'd read it
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>>33661119
>you really are the most knowledgeable poster
Thanks! All I've done is regurgitate ChatGPT prompts derived from PUA blogs!

>>33662170
Yes! I love snorting adderal before telling incels to jack off in their red pants while walking down the street. I should charge money for recycling other people's terrible advice!
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>>33662170
Thanks man. I write professionally for a living, so i always try to get to the point but have a little sizzle to sell the steak.
>you’ve probably already read my work if you visited a Fortune 100 website

All this accumulation of knowledge was years of experimenting and whatnot, but I think it’s a crowded field and dynamic, so even this advice I gave could be obsolete in a year. I wrote a book on busking and once something like COVID came along, sales fell off a cliff. Datings the same way and stuff like Men are from Mars clearly can’t give good advice in online dating because it’s technologically irrelevant.

I ran out of space for 17)

17) Find the smoking area. Smoking is gross, but smokers all tend to flock together. By trading cigs and lighters, you’ve already introduced a camaraderie. Smokers also tend to be more down to earth and stressed, so approaching as a “breath of fresh air” is always welcome. Of course, many smokers tend to be gritty people (think welder, not Joni Mitchell), but stepping out for a smoke with a stranger worked a few times - if not to close right then and there but to build rapport that i could later capitalize on.
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>>33662318
Hey fuck you asshole. I was actually hungover in bed and just wanted to share some knowledge.

This negativity just seems to be an expression of your inner most state. I mean, you could be having sex and fostering real connection but instead you’re doing… uh, what again?
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18. Experiment with heroin, crack cocaine, and other hard drugs.

This may seem naughty at first, but as the saying goes "The times, they are a changing". You may wish to introduce yourself in the hard drugs ecosystem as a supplier so that you can trade drugs for sex, given how very few drug addicts have any actual money for their addiction. However, in my experience I've found to be a lot more fun and engaging to simply become a user, and it's less responsibility.

It's as easy as crossing over the train tracks to the wrong side of town! Just hang out outside of a bus terminal or train station and sooner or later someone will ask you if you're "looking for something?" to which you should of course answer "Yes."

In certain neighborhoods of certain cities (I travel a lot as a writer) there are ENTIRE streets that are nothing but homeless drug addicts! Imagine that! You can't even cross the road without tripping over a comatose cutie!

Of course it's not just runaway of a questionable age, there are plenty of older people as well - men, women - after a couple of hits of whatever poison you pick it honestly all blurs together and all that matters is that you're getting your dick sucked behind a dumpster.
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>>33662387
Oh whoops silly me I forgot to put my name on, I'm so hungover LOL I had an epic party last night with many, many instagram models.

Or perhaps they were elderly homeless people... Ah well, another notch on the belt!
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>>33662338
This isn't me, how did you get into my 4chan account? I think your attempts at ironic deflection reflect some inner trauma....? uh, perhaps some suppressed memories?
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>>33662387
Find Jesus and please never be a copy editor
>you used a period instead of a parenthesis after each number
>your cadence is off
Just make sure the utensils are in the bag, sweetie. Thanks sweetie.

Your advice is almost right. I’ve hung out with crustpunks, street families, and other lümpenproles. In Olympia, i fucked this one chick by the public well years ago. A few years back, I go to visit and she’s still there. Very sad.

Another girl gave me head in the parking lot across from the library, but when she took off her shirt, every available inch of her skin was mutilated with razor blades. She was very sweet.
>pic rel

>most of those people are severely traumatized and in need of help/euthanasia
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>>33656126
Get hobbies, travel around. It far easier to get women in foreign places than it is in your home turf.

Went to Portugal and got a day and one night stand with the receptionist in the hotel I stayed at. Was there for 3 days just touring the country and asked her to guide me if she's free, I said I'll cover her expenses and all she had to do was take me to her favourite places.

If you're gonna pick up women in a store, you might as well complement them and ask for advice. Don't go to the same store more than twice, just use common sense and be smart.

Met my ex-gf because she asked for directions. I gave her my number and said she should call me if she's ever lost or bored. I was just being friendly. To my shock she called two days later.
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19) Men are better women than women.

Again, as a world-class published author I've seen a couple of things from a few places. "Ladyboys", "traps", "transsexuals", "crossdressers", "transvestites", etc. Much like the pop/soda argument across the continental United States, the names vary across each region and may change over time but the principle stays the same: men are better at sex than women.

Men's brains are 30% larger and their sex drive relies on basic impulse rather than complicated, stupid emotions. Men are also more fun to be with, and they don't have weird smelly holes that bleed out of during the full moon. Gross !!!

Back in my day I had to take a redeye straight to Bangkok or often San Francisco to find a decent he/she but in this modern age it's the same as homeless people, it's practically impossible to NOT find any in any given major city.

It's also impossible to get them pregnant... at least for now... who knows what tomorrow will bring?! LOL Regardless, you get to have great feminine sex without any of the nagging female nonsense.
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>>33662402
The easiest way to block you is just post women. You don’t have any so you take out this jealousy on others because the gulf between a fulfilling life and whatever you’ve got going on is too wide.
>a fulfilling life is an impossibility to you

As for me drinking, I prefer to drink alone these days after watching a brutal bar fight last year. Plus I’m 40 and my liver only has so many punch tickets
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Oh my goodness me, my head is still spinning I just cannot keep my 4chan account logged in. LOL

That reminds me of the time I was hanging out with Goa ravers on the beaches of Bangkok, Jomtien specifically, where I was hanging out with an entire harem of กระเทย.

In the Wang Thonglang district, I fucked this one shemale by the public well years ago. A few years back, I go to visit and she’s still there. Very sad.

Another man-girl gave me head in the parking lot across from the library in the Samphanthawong district, but when she took off her shirt, every available inch of her skin was mutilated with razor blades. She was very sweet.
>pic rel

>most of those people are severely traumatized and in need of help/euthanasia
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>>33656126
>it's the only spot you'd see consistently hot girls
See also the gym, and church young single adults group.
Yes if you go out of your way to find the men's only powershitter gym or the elderly leftist church you won't see any hotties, git gooder.
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>>33662478
Eh, I did my part and offer solid effortposting and your attempts to spoliate actionable info can just get ignored for the archives.

>imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
You also know that you are locked out of a fulfilling life of your own design. Any person who has attained some measure of self-actualization would want to help others. Those on the bottom of Mazlow’s pyramid tend to fester until they become hollow husks with nervous glances and shoddy existences.

Thank you for reminding me of evil is i can better frame my worldview.

>oy vey i gotta get him with a rebuttal
By the time you read this, you loser, i win. I am closing my participation, you can’t change it, and I won’t read anything you write from here on out. The advice and evidence is in the archives, and you have an itch on your nose that you want to scratch, but if you do so you’re gay, but this feeling will only grow stronger and harder to ignore, only for you to realize that deep down all the problems in your life come from this closeted position, and the itch is screaming for attention, but other itches appear across your body and face, which is the gay coming out of you which you secretly desire but can’t go to Provincetown this year so you decide to cut anyone down because you just can’t get enough penis I use you to make your parents love you.
>how long did it take you to scratch that it, homo?
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>>33662453
This is very true. The greatest indicator of a fulfilling life is being a namefag on 4chan and uploading private pictures of one's personal life to prove, without any doubt, just how cool and fulfilled we are.

I was out partying last night, with a car full of girls. I was out patrolling for any homeless trans people when I noticed their car stopped at a red light. I knocked on their window as when they rolled it down I said

"Miss, ma'am, m'lady, how yall doing this fine evening?"

and then I fucked all of them before the light turned green. Ironically, it's because I was wearing a red shirt. If you wear a red shirt, it hipnotizes women as I already outlined in item #4 of my listicle. I wrote many listicles for Buzzfeed, Cracked, The New York Times, The New York Post, The New Yorker. I am a distinguished author. I once had sex with a girl in Europe.
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>>33662529
Meh, I did my part and offered solid advice so your attempts to muddy the waters can just get ignored in the archives.

>imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
You also know that you are locked out of a fulfilling life by your own design. Any person who has attained some measure of self-actualization would want to help others. Those on the bottom of Mazlow’s pyramid tend to fester until they become hollow husks with nervous glances and shoddy existences. Of course you don't help others for the sake of helping others - you help others so that you specifically can be praised and showered with attention. It's not about helping others, it's about other helping you feel fulfilled. We're not certainly getting any fulfillment burning through 700 women are we? LOL

Thank you for reminding me of what evil is so I can better frame my worldview. Jeez Louise, I better turn on Grammarly because for some reason I'm omitting words and skipping punctuation and getting all flustered now.

>oy vey i gotta get him with a rebuttal
By the time you read this, you loser, i win. I am closing my participation, you can’t change it, and I won’t read anything you write from here on out. The advice and evidence is in the archives, and you have an itch on your nose that you want to scratch, but if you do so you’re gay, but this feeling will only grow stronger and harder to ignore, only for you to realize that deep down all the problems in your life come from this closeted position, and the itch is screaming for attention, but other itches appear across your body and face, which is the gay coming out of you which you secretly desire but can’t go to Provincetown this year so you decide to cut anyone down because you just can’t get enough penis I use you to make your parents love you.
>how long did it take you to scratch that it, homo?

I am DEFINITELY making my last post to you and and CERTAINLY not dragging this on any further
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>>33656126
I won't read threads posted by OPs that cannot seem to grasp the concept of talking to women as the only way to "meet" them.
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>>33659595
>70+ bodies
Male whore. I bet you dog on woman that do the same thing too. That shit is nasty bro.

Other advice is fine tho.
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I love it when slimeanon baits incels, works every time
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>>33666427
>Male whore
No, I'l explain why...

>Other advice is fine tho
Thank you

In about 1/2 of those cases of sleeping around, I offered commitment. After most of these encounters, we'd exchange numbers and maybe hang out a few more times--more often than not, these women ghosted (and a few stole stuff from my house on several occasions).

The 2000's up til now have been a shitshow to get women to commit. Ever since the downfall of Myspace and the rise of Facebook, women have become MUCH more elusive. Many whom I dated, as I lived in a BETTER era of Portland, OR (where I got laid the most), were the same people who became leftists or led a personal life of endless "not-quite" boyfriends. It's not an incel thing - it's the truth.

TEN of my ladyfriends have gotten married-divorced within a year. Others still try to find men to advance their career, and some so demasculinated their boyfriends that one even trans'd out.

For any one of those, I made romantic overtures and many friendly encounters beforehand. When you have a friend group, many of those same friends vouch for you and make access to sex easy. People see this and find value in you.

Example: Our group was celebrating leaving PDX, so we went to the Tube (2nd & Burnside). We're having a good time, play-slapping each other. I get up to use the bathroom, and when I return, a chick is seated next to me. I say hello between the slap-game and she leans over without prompting: "I"d love to feel your stubble on my clit."

Would you turn that down?
Absolutely not.

And so being a "whore" is ridiculous when, after waking up the crime scene me and the girl left on her bed, I give her my number and she's like, "well, I live in Seattle for work, so it won't work. You have to go now."

Puritanism is as bad as Leftism. I live in Amish country and these people suffer in ODD ways that are hard to comprehend:
https://www.wlwt.com/article/ruth-miller-charged-drowning-death-of-son-atwood-lake-amish/66029130
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>>33660697
Yeah, this level of flirting within work boundaries is normal. The overreaction of sexual harassment is warranted for scumbag bosses, but in an office or work setting, women appreciate it to feel "seen". It's for this reason older women crash out so hard and start wearing "purple" or dressing like a librarian. Without male attention, they can't adequately gauge their attractiveness--a key part of ANYONE's self-esteem.
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>>33660771
Mr. Slime, if you're reading this, can please give me some guidance on: coffee shops and gym
I like someone at the gym and would like to take her out
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>gym
I don’t have experience at the gym. I find that it’s not the best place if you’re new, as hitting on women can be frowned on. Frankly, if she’s going there and giving you glances in the mirror, I’d say go ahead. If not, tread with caution.

However, you can make jokes if you’re comfy. For example, if she’s picking up light free weights, you can ask her if she needs a spotter. Innocuous jokes go down better like this and see if she gives you a laugh (even if it’s just an acknowledgment).

I’d avoid sitting in her proximity, but pheromones and a faint waft of cologne go a long way.

>Coffee shops
I have had a number of strategies that all work. Here’s what has got me success (or at least dates):

>play board games
If there’s chess, you can offer her to play a game. Lots of women are flattered to be taken as an intellectual. Other board games vary, but women love Scrabble and you can flirt through word choices. For example, if you played “HARLOT” you might want not say something like “don’t want to offend you, but the Scrabble Gods have spoken.” Be playfully competitive. You can talk shit you if you can tell she’s into the game. Even offer. Prize like a coffee refill or go for the prize if taking her out for a date.

>be a regular
Knowing the baristas and acting like the place is an extension of your living room are good strategies.

>make art? Ask for a critique
I usually go to coffee shops with noise cancelling headphones to work in music projects. But if I legitimately made some cool, it’s hard not to share. Ask a girl if she wants to hear it or to give you a feedback - “hey this is a rough mix for an Aphex Twin style track I’m working on.” Same deal as chess, it’s intellectually flattering and you just offered a unique experience.

(Cont.)
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>>33656126
I'm too socially retarded to help but I support your cause. Remember to get them all pregnant.
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>coffee shop continues
Same deal with drawing. If you can do portraiture, you can ask to do her portrait. It’s a bold move, but if you are a legitimate artist, you can fill her ideas of being a muse or a model - or, sharing her own work. My buddy worked wonders with this approach.

Don’t rule out the baristas. Here are a couple of ways to befriend and sleep with them:

I tip memorably. In fact, I learned how to make an origami shirt and dress using a dollar a piece, and that used to be my signature. Not inky I it cute, but when they’re counting the bills later, they’ll remember who gave it to them.

Music is big. You can use Shazam to cheat, but compliment them in their choice. You don’t have to follow things up, but you can certainly say something like “oh, YOURE the one with the good music taste. It all makes sense now…” You don’t have to follow that last line, but you can see that a cryptic phrase can excite her interest.

Al fresco dining is good too. Being able to avoid an audience to all your attempts makes it a bit easier to handle rejection.

Going up to girls tables is cool, too. If she’s reading a book, it’s very easy to comment in her reading material. If she’s looks busy or is doing homework, just make the remark. Remember, subsequent visits make you more familiar, so if you tell her that you love Chekhov and DFW too, you’re already established in her mind as “cute book guy”.

There’s also the books arms race. If both of you are reading, she’ll take note. Of what you’re reading, too. I used to read Pynchon and Bulgakov, and they are great conversation starters.
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>>33668058
>>33668096
Thanks. I thought that I should try to work out on the similar machines, gauge the feeling and take it from there
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>>33658509
Intelligent son of a gun.
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>>33668096
I work at target on weekends and pretty much every 5/10+ is married or in a relationship. Also, I've accidentally blown up conversations with so many that used to work there that even trying to talk to them about anything feels like work.
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>>33668396
Good thinking. People are creatures of habit and if you want to do extra, pay attention to which machines she uses and in what order. Anticipate the order and try to put yourself in the right place at the right time (without being creepy). Try to be one step ahead, or maybe cool down on a bench that’s in the path to the locker room.

Also, pay attention to the amount of time she spends, as she might just hit 30 minutes at the same time each week.

What I don’t recommend is crushing on one chick. It always is in the back of your mind - oh shit, she’s here, let’s go. Instead, just make it as part of your visit and do the aforementioned for other girls too (even as a sociological study).
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>>33668683
I think it varies by city. For example, I’ve been to Targets in my city and each one has a different flavor. College age women tend to shop near where they go to school…

As I mentioned earlier, timing is everything. I see plenty of galpals sorting out their dorms after midday, but I think you’ll have a cattle call of wagies at 5 - 7pm, as people are getting off work. Same deal with early morning.

I’m just using Target as a stand-in for a public business where women shop and feel safe. I could recommend Panera and tell you to hang out in the waiting area after you order food. Or, shop at one of those “bowl & smoothie” places, which ALWAYS has hot chicks. Same deal with Zoe’s Kitchen, In n Out, Chik Fil A - especially Chik Fil A (I flirt with the drive thru all the time - “oh wow, you’re brave being out here. You’re certainly not chicken!” stuff like that).

I heard a good quote one time about these planning strategies:
>”You can’t make someone fall in love with you, but you can certainly increase your odds in your favor.”

Again, the idea is to be so social that you’re doing this automatically.

Strangely enough, places like Michael’s feel sketchy, but Hobby Lobby feels wholesome. I’ve had people give me the stink eye in Michael’s buying decoupage, white ladies in line at HobLob were asking about what I was going to make.
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>>33668535
Thanks.
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>>33661082
> Isolate the women, distract the unwanted males,
What did he mean by this
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>>33669272
If you’ve been in a group setting where sex is potentially on the table, some dudes will hold out by hanging out to wait for women to get in the mood (or ruin it for everyone). Same deal with bitchy women.

So, in a drugged out state, it’s easier to be like “hey dude, we are almost out of firewood. can you check to see if there’s any around here?”
>once he’s gone, you make a move
You can feel the energy change and you might get a smooch, grope, or long eye contact. It’s underhanded, but don’t think your competitors aren’t using similar tactics.

Isolating the women is the same concept, but you don’t want them to have a crisis of conscience from their naysaying friends. So if you’re all high, you can change settings, like “hey does anyone want to go for a walk?” Or, “hey, I need a hand with restocking the cooler with ice.”

Use your imagination. The general idea is that you need to filter out the undesirables and obstacles in a drugged out state. Other people are hoping someone takes charge and you can do the same too.

I’ve had plenty of nights where I got cockblocked because of this. I grabbed this drunk and she invited me to her house . The only problem was she brought these two dudes who were smoking outside to come. I spent an hour getting rid of one dude, who was already slurring his words and not finishing coherent sentences.

The other dude, however, was getting crazier. So I kept inviting the chick out for a cig, gave her a butt squeeze, and then we worked on getting him home.

“Why is he staying?” he said, pointing at me when we returned. “I thought you LOVED me.”

Now, drunk slurring guy and him are getting angry at each other, until the chick comes out and we were forced to call the cops on lover boy, with me holding her screen door shut while he tried to menace us through her window…

Not a total moodkiller but sex was dismal.

So yeah, distract the men, isolate the female
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>>33656126
>What's a good way to meet girls at Target?
lol
lmao even

Do not try to pick chicks up at a store. People are there to shop and will see you as a creep. The most likely outcome is you get the cops called on you, not a phone number.
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>>33669431
Shoo shoo gains goblin
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>>33659595
this nigga can't get a wife to save his life LMAO
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>>33669934
I was in several long-term relationships and they were equivalent to marriages (common law marriage). There are plenty of substandard women that would break their pelvis to get impregnated by me, but I’m far more choosy.

I think most people my age and below know what’s up. But keep trolling

Here’s a penny: o
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>>33656126
You don’t. You’re on 4Channel, that means you’re not the type of person who can pull off such a feat
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>>33670455
(You) put in your two cents, here’s a penny back o



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