>thinking about people in groups rather than as individuals
r u dumb?

>>33658191
women are a literal, unironic hivemind

>>33658191
Every individual in said group is in on the plan to keep me a miserable virgin. If there were individuals against this plan they would done something themselves. If they don't do things for themselves and only act as the group wants them to, they're not really an individual.

>>33658248
sounds like paranoid schizophrenia, no one is out to get you

>>33658254
Sure. Just label me something you don't like so you don't have to contemplate or respond anything.

>>33658200
>>33658248
>hivemind
>plan
cope
its a flock

>>33658314
that sounds even worse

>>33658170
By blaming your parents + your pastor + your elementary school bullies for it instead

>>33658170
It'll depend on your ability to take responsibility for your life vs. coming up with conspiratorial entities to blame it on.

you could just date an ugly girl

>>33658850
Ugly girls want Chad

>>33658294
>Sure. Just label me something you don't like so you don't have to contemplate or respond anything.

which is what you are doing to women.

>>33658200
This unironically. Most women are indeed a hivemind. All they care about is traveling, fancy restaurants and buying dumb, useless shit. Including the ugly ones of middling intelligence with no qualities that make them really stand out. I would know, most of my friends are dating women like that and they are as picky as the hot and intelligent ones. As a result, most of my friends are broke constantly and are living from paycheck to paycheck. Can't say I envy them.

>>33659179
/thread

>>33659179
I wonder where he learned it from?

>>33658170
Well, you can pity them, too.
The broad range of women that are lonely and alone, or in unhappy marriages with no kids, end up being sour and regretful spinsters that wish they gave more people a chance. It's not as uncommon as you'd think.
It's the nature of the online world we live in that genuine human interaction is harder and harder to find. Everyone suffers from it, even women, despite it not seeming as notable because you never see the ones that are suffering alongside you, since they're in the opposite camp.

>hurf derf nuh uh wymin have it ez
Grass is always greener on the other side. Everyone's broke, alone, and/or miserable in their own way.
Sucks, but that's been the status quo since people grew grass to eat in Mesopotamia. Suffering does not define us, it's how we adapt, endure, and overcome.

>>33658170
You're in a good company if you want a bunch of other losers to pat you on the back and tell you how bad women are, but that isn't going get you any closer to a relationship with a woman.

Maybe if you had the guts to take some accountability, try to be less of an autistic loser, and go outside more; you'd actually have women interested in you.

Any cope about how women are all stupid and evil cunts that owe you their love is honestly pathetic.
You're no different from the niggers that live on welfare and blame all the racist white people for their problems.

Grow the fuck up, you sniveling boy.

>>33659179
>which is what you are doing to women.
Where is any labelling of women in the OP? Genuine ask.

>>33658170
Stop obsessing over women. Adopt an attitude of "fuck society" and go your own way.

>>33658200
>women are a literal, unironic hivemind
>>33658248
>Every individual in said group is in on the plan
Whether it was personal experience with girls or if you just found the wrong internet space at a young age, it sounds like you developed some kind of complex regarding women.
Incel ideology is psychological self harm, a coping mechanism. You need counseling or cognitive behavioral therapy.

>>33661144
>Incel ideology is psychological self harm, a coping mechanism.
it seems pretty sane actually

What did women do to remove your humanity? Be specific.

>>33661444
>>33660676
Virgins are not considered human and losing it to a prostitute is considered cheating the test and doesn't grant you humanity. This is a test enforced by women and men who have courted them and so have an interest in remaining human at all costs. You have to court a woman or be a woman to be considered human, and women refuse to even look at me.
It doesn't matter what I think of myself in this context so I don't bring it up. Society grants you humanity, not yourself, and if society deems you non-human you are less than trash to them. I could assert myself completely, and society could still treat me without humanity, which is the cold reality of it. Humans are fundamentally social creatures, so without social approval we are no longer human. The loss of virginity is the threshold for social acceptance because even genuinely evil people get a pass to enter the human world if they lose their virginity. There is no amount of good one can do or purity one can reach to be considered human while still being a virgin.

>>33661566
Nothing in your mentally handicapped incel rant made any sense. You clearly do not want advice but validation for your whining. Take it to >>>/pol/ not here.

>>33661683
Sure, more labels. At least I'm used to that with how many labels get thrown at me for being a virgin already. You're only proving the point that we're seen as fundamentally non-human and flawed because of our situation.
Why even ask the question in >>33661444 by the way? What kind of answer did you expect to have a response to, or was more cheap labelling always your intention?

>>33661957
>Why even ask the question in
Because it was pretty clear you had no answer and proved it. You were asked to provide a specific example and you failed. Instead you went on a nonsensical rant. You said things that were outright wrong or made no sense. You are clearly mentally ill. Seek therapy.

>>33661566
None of that is true. Women/society don't like you because you are a weird, chronically online retard, you are annoying and a drain to be around. I can tell just by reading this one post. I don't like you either. If I were talking to you IRL I would probably want to leave that interaction as soon as I possibly could, while you ranted about these stupid autistic fixations that exist in your head and on the lookism forums you frequent. My advice to you is to learn how to stop being a desperate, seething, insecure retard and annoying everyone around you with your faggotry.

>>33661998
Your own reply makes no sense from my perspective, so whatever.

>>33662049
I only talk about these things through anonymity.
>desperate, seething, insecure retard and annoying everyone around you with your faggotry.
I'm not any of these things. I'm not surprised you resort to homophobia and ableism to dismiss me either. What's next, gonna guess at my race?

>>33662094
>homophobia and ableism
Man, I truly can't imagine how obnoxious you are. You've got the worst traits of both incelism and leftoidism. What malignant concoction.

And you're also in denial. Anon, you are seething and delusional. You need intense professional help, like yesterday. Get on it please.

>>33662238
More insults and labels, that's all you have.

your tranny esque victim complex/entitlement is unattractive. why would a woman want to spend the rest of their life with you? what marketable traits do you possess? and why do you want to spend the rest of your life with a member of a group that you hate and allegedly hate you back?

>>33661566
I can't make any sense of that. It's something something virginity something something women. Can you explain it in terms that people can understand?

When is the last time you asked a girl out? Describe what happened.

You clearly are very young. Let's assume you are 18. At your age, about half of men and women are still virgins. So why are you so angry about being a virgin? It's obvious you have never done anything to try to get sex, but then again, you are in the majority these days. Just stop being so angry about it and do something about it if it makes you so buttmad.

>>33662094
>I'm not any of these things.
It's more than obvious to everyone from your every post that you are every single one of those things and more. You are desperate, seething, insecure, and annoying everyone with your faggotry. You are just like this in real life, so don't be surprised that you don't have friends and girls don't like you.

>>33658170
>How do I not hate women for removing my humanity and worth by collectively forcing me to remain an unloved incel?
You did that by spending all your free time becoming a person nobody likes or values, including yourself.

>>33661437
It seems sane because it's a coping mechanism. You think of your anxieties and delusions as clarity and control but you're just coping with learned helplessness. By doubling down you will only reinforce it until it becomes inescapable.
It's the same with people who cut themselves. They think they're taking control, but they're just surrendering to a dangerous and damaging coping mechanism.

>>33658170
>collectively forcing me to remain an unloved incel
>women are a literal, unironic hivemind
>Every individual in said group is in on the plan to keep me a miserable virgin.
All I'm getting from this is that you're an unlikable, egocentric loser. It's not societies fault that you suck, it's yours, and it always will be unless you take some accountability and make changes to who you are.

>>33658170
hahahahaha you gotta keep pushing because there is no blue pill left:
And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

>>33658170
hahaha bro bro bro these guys don't care about the world you want things to move towards bro hahahaha they'll think so what if society's in the way you want them spending their lives to make school shooters. You gotta wait until the wheat and chaff don't even repeat shit on here.

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>>33658170
By accepting that while it sucks that this shitty e-dating world is rigged in their favor, femoid shallowness is understandable.

Reverse the positions. Would you swipe right on a flabby woman with no tits, no ass, bad hairline, just because they are lonely?
No. There would have to be *other* pictures to make you reconsider. Pictures that makes you see other life-partner material and qualities.

The only option for an ugly manlet is to not *also* be a NEET, so he can take those other pictures. Pictures that say: yes I'm a balding manlet *but* we can be happy in this nice apartment; I can drive you in this nice car to your girly-shit errands; and look at these biceps I have, I can beat the head in on any nigger who tries to attack you. Don't have to be wealthy to get to this point, just not a NEET.

So seethe more about not having *more* bait to fish with, instead of seething at the fish in the sea for being stupid fish.

>>33662942
>sanity is a coping mechanism
Really now? Ironic you bring up self harm though because I've got plenty of scars from it.

>>33663172
This is reasonable, but I'm not bad looking or a neet so it's not entirely applicable. I'm just shy of 6 feet, workout, eat well and shower daily, etc. It's the main reason I don't believe in anything blackpill, because supposedly I'm exactly who women want besides not being rich.

>>33663329
then my diagnosis is that you are just retarded, anon. let's pray it is the curable kind.

>>33663329
You sound kinda like Elliot Rogers though. Like, the OP you posted would have turned my vagina into a desert if I had one. Just my two cents.

>>33663409
How sad.

>>33663565
>Elliot Rogers
I have no desire to shoot anyone except for myself on occasion.

>>33664109
I wasn't talking about the shooting. I was talking about he was a supreme gentlemen and women didn't recirpcoate his advances and so the world was at fault. But in most cases incels don't make any advances for which to be rejected. That, or they get in sexual relationships and yet still call themselves celibate, because that shit is a cult. It's not beneficial to hate anyone, nor to bring physical harm to anyone, including yourself. Life is hard enough for many as is.

>>33658170
Incels should be neutered or euthanized.
Women didn't take anything from you.
They are herd animals who do what they are programmed to do.
What you should ask is who is doing the programming and then get upset at them.

>>33659794
>OP is acting like a woman and that is le epic based somehow

>>33658170
By being happy being alone first before dealing with others.

>>33658248
Look for a tomboyish woman, but before that make sure your hobbies are for your own fun and not to impress a woman. I'm no clinician, but I burned out from rejection frustration when I hadn't even hit puberty yet. I had a fear of rejection from the group, and adopted the habit of doing things not for me, but to look good in front of others. Only made things worse.

By 13 I didn't even consider myself someone worthy of a partner. It's not even that I'm shy talking to women, it's just that I wore a mask for so long that the two times I asked someone out she seemed to see right through me and saw what I was doing was fake. I dropped out of college and went off to do my own thing later because I was sick of living like a machine on the outside looking in. Found a new friend group, began drawing in my free time, and took plenty of nature walks.

I suggest looking for a (kind, humble) nonconformist woman because this is also someone who likely went through periods of wanting to belong and learning to be OK without external validation. Also more likely to play video games and bond with you over it, or some wacky activity together.

>>33658170
When was the last time you ever spoke to women outside of the dating/courting context? This might come as a newsflash to you but women are human too, they just happen to have an extra hole, a pair of sandbags stuck to their chest and a different brain. Stop thinking about women as some kind of alien race that is only there for your pleasure, women are people too, with their own complexes, fear and insecurities. Practice casually talking with them IRL and try to understand their struggles. Having female friends is a massive advantage because it let's you practice talking with them, yet not all women are created equal so yo need to adapt to their types of personality.

There's obviously shitty retarded women out there but those are exceptions, not the rule. I've met and had sex with beautiful women (Both physically and mentally) by having this mindset of seeing them as my peers, not as my enemys. I also have a pair of female friends here and there to help me understand how they see the world.

>>33662724
Why would OP ask a girl out? Do you even imagine a scenario where he doesnt get rejection?

>>33658170
You can hate women if you want but you should realize it makes no sense and is very counterintuitive to hate women specifically because you actually love them too much. You don't "hate women" you simply hate your own failure. It's like if you really wanted to be a musician but failed to get a career going so now you decide you hate music. Well that's stupid. You wanted to be a musician because you loved music. Your dream was contingent on your love of music not the other way around.
This is why I think many incels are simply dumb and not self aware enough. A true incel cannot really be misogynistic otherwise they wouldn't be an incel. These things are basically mutually exclusive.

>>33664172
>incels don't make any advances
I have though.
>It's not beneficial to hate anyone
Which is why I opened asking how to not fall into that rabbit hole given what's happened to me.
>including yourself
It's a great distraction though and it does relieve some of the mental anguish.

>>33664606
I never really had this problem. All of my hobbies have been for me.

>>33664663
>When was the last time you ever spoke to women outside of the dating/courting context?
Does work count? I don't know where to find them outside of those two contexts. They're not in any hobby groups and my gym is a sausage fest, and you're never supposed to even look at women in the gym since they're always filming themselves and have a persecution complex.
>try to understand their struggles
I can't recall a single time a woman has complained about anything in life except for either the man they are dating, or the men that are trying to date them. The only thing that ever appears to be wrong in their lives is men and dating. This isn't me diminishing them, this is my lived experience.

>>33665717
>specifically because you actually love them too much
Besides when they come to me to insult and demean me for never having had sex with one of them, I don't think about women very much. I wrote about this very early in the thread and pointed out that
>>33661566
>It doesn't matter what I think of myself in this context so I don't bring it up
My experience with them, and why I worry I'm growing to hate them, is that they're an antagonistic group that has created the scenario where me just being here is an issue and then created the social order where them saying I'm an issue for being a virgin is why my life should be ruined and my humanity ignored or revoked. Women seem more like an invading army from my perspective, not a fox and grapes thing. It's sort of like that saying "you may not have an interest in politics, but politics has an interest in you" except it's hatred of women.

>>33658850
Women choose to be ugly, by not taking care of their body and hair. It's entirely their own choice to be like that.
Men who are unattractive are unattractive because of things they can't change, like height or facial structure.

>>33666047
Men who are unattractive like OP choose to be unattractive. Women are more attracted to non-physical traits than men. Incels choose to be as annoying, desperate, and angry as possible so that they will be sure to repel women.

>>33666123
Not true at all. You just don't even register unattractive men as living things.

>>33666294
You have never been on a date with a girl or had sex with one. Why do you think you know more about what girls like in men than men who actually get girls?

>>33666340
>men who actually get girls?
It's plain as day to see what kind of guys those are, and they're all physically attractive with borderline psychopath personalities.

>>33666376
You are insane. You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. You get all your images of women outside your basement from incel forums, posts by basement dwelling incels such as yourself.

Now answer the question. Why do you think that you, who has never been on a date or had sex or tried to approach a girl, are an expert on what kind of men women like? Why do you think you know better than men who actually know how to attract women?

>>33666408
I judge based on what kind of men I see with girlfriends or out on dates. All of them are 6 foot or taller, all of them are disconnected and ignore the girl, all of them have stories of hurting women physically. Your strawman doesn't work on me.

>>33666481
Why do you post lies on the internet? It's obvious to everyone you have not seem anything like that in real life and are only repeating what you read on incel forums. You are not able to distinguish between your imagined fantasies and real life. If you have not seen that most men with girlfriends are less than 6 feet tall, pay attention to the girl and would never hurt a girl, then you have not left the basement since high school.

>>33666481
Do you personally go up to those couples and the man just starts telling you about how he beats her?

>>33658191
It allows idiots to not seek localized violent revenge, it's very pathetic

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>>33658170
Hire a hooker, Nigger.
>>33664663
Women don't see *him* as human though.

>>33666628
Those last two replies in your screenshot are truth nukes.

>>33666648
They summarize the incel mindset. Incels are stuck in a high school mentality. They do not understand the adult world is different. They refuse to grow up and accept the truth.

>>33666724
This post is a truth failure-to-detonate.

>>33658200
>>33658850
this is true
>>33658170
but this is false
who do you think sets the programming?

>>33666648
Indeed, thank you a lot. There are too many people here gaslighting virgin men into staying Nosexsissies.
>>33666724
It is true, though. Also convenient how you ignore the whole castration part in my post, but of course women and Onionboys don't care about that. Please stay out of paysex discussions.

>>33666759
Adult life is not high school. The sooner an incel stops lying about it and accepts the truth, the sooner he is on his way to leaving inceldom.

>>33666785
Do you think if you repeat that enough times without any backing arguments, it'll make it come true?

>>33658200
So are incels, which is why you all sound exactly the same with the usual tired talking points and copes.

>>33661566
Impressive levels of self-pity and autism, even by incel standards.
I'm genuinely impressed anon.

>>33666813
You certainly seem to think so with your retarded incel claims about adult life being like high school.

>>33666785
Paying for sex is the only way out of inceldom.

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>ctrl f "incel"
>24 results
at 75 posts this thread is one entire third people just spouting incel over and over
I think you people might need to get a life as much as OP does

>>33666817
>>33666831
>>33666849
Go back to Plebbit, anti-paysex Normalnigger.

>>33666863
Choosing to stop being an incel is the only way out of inceldom.

>>33666869
You leave inceldom by no longer being a Nosexsissy, and paying for it is the easiest way to do so.

>>33666865
>Nosexsissy seething

>>33666865
he asked
it's fun and easy to dunk on the mentally ill when they do this shit

>>33666885
>paying for it
What do you think of >>33661566

>>33666945
That poor dude has been brainwashed by Normies who don't want him to pay for sex.

>>33663329
>>sanity is a coping mechanism
>Ironic you bring up self harm though because I've got plenty of scars from it.
So you have a tendency toward self-harm coping mechanisms, but think this particular self-harm coping mechanism is actually a good thing? Interesting.

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>>33658170
Don't hate them. Forget about them and find a sexy dog wife.

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Women are evil and only choose obnoxious Chad brutes in their 20s and beta pay pigs in their thirties when they have already ridden the cock carousel and lose all their attractive features. Do not let this fly, beta uprising NOW.