if you have game, sure.

Yes try to be at least a 7 and you are good, if you are a sub5 it will be an experience

>>33658467
Its never worth it. That isnt how it works.

>>33658467
Only if you can take the rejection

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>>33658467
No.

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>>33658467
>Is cold approaching worth it
even handsome men get rejected or ignored at times- I've seen my friends fail an approach miserably. It's not about the looks, its about being able to discern if the woman had seen you and had made a decision that she wants to be approached by you. It's literally quite that simple. Retards think just because you approached a girl she will automatically be attracted to you.
>if you're not in the top 1% of looks?
it helps, but if what comes out of your mouth is garbage, it helps little.

>>33658467
I don't get cold approaching, especially not from people on 4chan who should be on the spectrum

>omg this girl's face looks good

so?

Unless she's wearing some metal band t-shirt or got a half dozen pins and plastic bits and bobs on her backpack that are all about anime or has something that catches my interest and lines up with my own interests and lifestyles - why would I go chasing after some normie bitch who's probably just into watching team sports and listening to top 40 music?

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>>33658765
>Unless she's
just say you're a retarded faggot incel who never gets women- it would be more believable and people wouldn't be wasting time listening to your delusional drivel.

>>33658749
>even handsome men get rejected or ignored at times- I've seen my friends fail an approach miserably. It's not about the looks, its about being able to discern if the woman had seen you and had made a decision that she wants to be approached by you. It's literally quite that simple. Retards think just because you approached a girl she will automatically be attracted to you.

Nailed it, two of my best friends are both giga-Chads - both are fit, over 6' with super defined jawlines, and both get literally hundreds of likes on dating apps. This has given them crazy confidence so they just cold approach girls for the fun of it, and even they fail most of their cold approaches.

If you want to approach strangers, walk around with a slight smile on your face like you're in a good mood, and look around and see who is mirin and who smiles at you. Then approach them. That has a FAR higher success rate than cold approaches.

>>33658804
I've never had to cold approach nothing strangers on the street I clearly have nothing in common with.

I've flirted with girls like on a train on the way back from a concert and at record shops and other places, but those aren't cold approach. There's a shared experienced & something in common there beyond just tripping over my own dick just to go UH UHM EXCUSE ME HI I THINK YOU'RE CUTE HERE'S MY NUMBER PLEASE WAIT UP

>>33658820
>look at them and smile and then approach them
that is exactly what a cold approach is though

cold approach never meant "walk up to a girl your with best incel grimace on"

>>33658886
I'd argue if a stranger smiles at you with longer eye contact, it's no longer a cold approach and instead a warm approach. A lot of people consider cold approach to be just walking up to someone who may not even know you exist yet. Regardless of definition though I suspect we agree on the larger picture

>>33659281
cold approach = stranger
warm approach = someone with pre-existing connections (e.g. co-worker, classmate, mutual friend at a party)

>>33658886
Some people think cold approach = interrupt someone

Better to think of it as talking to someone who notices you first

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>>33658467
It’s worth it, but not for the reasons most men think it is. It builds confidence, you learn to push past rejection, and you get better at talking to women.

Cold approach isn’t a high success rate way of meeting women. As a beginner you’ll maybe succeed at getting 1 woman out on a date out of 100. That seems about realistic. Honestly if you want success with women you should probably try every strategy simultaneously. Join dating apps, cold approach, dm girls, and meet girls through friends. There’s no secret code, it’s mostly a matter of sifting through all of the “no” women to find a “yes” woman.

>>33658590
>This is the kind of woman gym spergs compete over
No shade on their fizeeks, but man do I need to work on my game gainz too

>>33658765
And sports and music isn't a reflection of values, why would I date somebody just for the things that they consume?
But good luck finding commonality between you and anybody else, given how atomized things have become.

>>33659578
How do you know if they notice you? Why do I have to interpret like 12 different peoples signals, when they are almost all meaning different things? There is no objective baseline of what is a sign of interest and not, fucking mind games just don't seem mature to me, not when trying to find a real partner.

>>33661335
>Why do I have to interpret like 12 different peoples signals, when they are almost all meaning different things? There is no objective baseline of what is a sign of interest and not, fucking mind games just don't seem mature to me, not when trying to find a real partner.
Having autism must be rough

>>33661340
Thankfully I don't have autism, but thanks for the input fucktard.
My point is, why do people feel the need to communicate in all these vague abstract ways, but the second you ask them a real question about what's important to them they go slack jawed?
Has it ever occurred to you that the reason we're so fucked up as a culture is because we invest more time and energy into communicating in these really immature ways, and no time actually defining the shit that is actually important in life?
I wish I was autistic, maybe then I wouldn't have to give a fuck about this shit.

>>33661358
Not him but you seem to be under the impression people are consciously planning like "ok i like him so Im gonna act this way and say that and stand this way and point my toes towards him snd beat around the bush and tell him I hate him but actually I like him".
No one's doing it on purpose. And there is a baseline, BTW. If someone likes you they show a lot of interest in you. Women are especially obvious. They practically roll in your lap
>hurr why dint they hust say "hey I like you lets fuck" honestly some do. But reality is thats extremely forward, extremely exposing, and risks off putting the other person and leading to rejection and embarrassment so people try to be more subtle. Not because they wwnt to engage in a cryptic dance with you, but because they hope youre not so socially retarded that you can pick up on their very obvious (and again, with women, they are VERY obvious) signs and take it or leave it while they can maintain plausible deniability and disengage at will without humiliating themselves.

And 99% of people do learn this language. You not learning isnt a failure of society or unfair game stacked against you. It's either youre autistic, a fucking idiot, or no one fucking likes you so you've never seen what that looks like so you think people are playing games with you.

>>33661157
> Honestly if you want success with women you should probably try every strategy simultaneously

This. I discussed the finer points of approaching bitches in Target here (https://boards.4chan.org/adv/thread/33656126#p33661082), but only through different methods will you discover who’s actually available.

I’m pretty good at cold approach and have met several long term gfs. But it’s a crapshoot with a slightly better percentage than online dating apps. It is a numbers game, so every no leads you to a “yes”.

As I’ve gotten older, I’ve found women of all ages actually “approach” me. The crazy ones are direct, the saner ones do ditzy girl stuff to attract my attention. Friend group game is good but I found since COVID and stupid politics, most groups are harder to penetrate.

>>33661358
>Thankfully I don't have autism
Not trying to take the piss of you but if you find reading and understand social cues difficult unreasonable or exhausting there's a strong chance you do slugger. That's autism 101.

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>>33661358
>high IQ autismo here
It took me a lot of years to understand all the signs. Or, more correctly, believe my instincts as correct and I should act on them.

How could this be? I did a fearless moral inventory and could point to several traumatic incidents where I was punished for “acting out” towards women by authority figures/family/friends.

It really does miscalibrate our minds due to repetition (almost like a stutter). I once was at a pizza shop with my twin brother, and I chatted up the waitress. He was convinced I was bothering her, even though she showed all the signs of interest. We went a week later and I got her number, fucked her ass before we finished the first beer, and kept this arrangement up for a month before she got a bf.

A similar thing happened with my friend group earlier in high school, where they kept saying “there’s no girls. just wait until college.” Sure enough, a band girl sits in my lap when I was sitting backstage and I get handjobs before noon each day at school. By now, my friends were actively ignoring me, so I couldn’t even share this with them.

Same deal with mom, who once rightfully corrected me when I walked up to random women outside a Friendly’s and said “oink oink I’m a pig” (I think it was a commercial), and I was shamed for even treating people like that. However, was a better example set of how to do it? Nope, so the bad impression stayed. That was cold approach at 12!

So, I’d say fill your mind with good impressions and thoughts. Billions of people have reproduced in the same courtship process, but now it’s convoluted due to our skewed world.

It’s also location. I had only a few gfs in high school and none that wanted to be seen with me in between classes. As soon as I went to college, I was getting laid every other month until I found a 17 yo hottie (I was 19, and felt VERY behind the curve).

Nevertheless, I still had dry spells of agony, wracking my brain for any solution.

>>33661521
Why are you here, go hit number 100 so you can finally feel succesful

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>>33658467
yes
a technique that's worked for me:
build up some social momentum and go for it

go out with friends
hit a few bars in the lively area nearby
have some laughs, a drink or two
start convos with strangers about random stuff
eventually you'll feel good about asking pretty women out

>>33658467
I am ugly but my dick is huge. Results are mixed

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>>33661531
I feel successful. What are you on about?

>>33658467
>Is cold approaching worth it if you're not in the top 1% of looks?
I always found it extremely worth it because I don't expect that every time a basketball leaves my hand that I am going to sink an extremely impressive half-court basket.

Cold approaching is talking to women who don't know you with minimal consequences for failure.
Talking to women is a skill.
Skills are improved through practice.
Practicing talking with women involves talking to women, ideally with minimal consequences.

I got very good at cold approaching, talking with strangers, and talking with women. I didn't get sex or relationships directly from cold approaching but I did get a lot of experiences.
It was worth it to me and it was fun.

>>33659281
>I'd argue if a stranger smiles at you with longer eye contact, it's no longer a cold approach and instead a warm approach
And you'd be wrong. No shame in that.

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>>33658487
this. In order to get gf, girls need to know where you come from, some sort of social validation, ie: friends, school, voluntary work. (girls worth dating either way).
at this point I would only approach girls with big tits, because that's my favorite atribute and I can't loose a chance, as they are quite rare.

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>>33661712
Wrong. You’re just weak and scared of rejection—which would be bad for your ego because if you’re wrong about your self-image, what else are you wrong about?

Like your post, this too is wrong.

I’ve met most of my gf and hookup in person. I am balding, 5’8” (depends on if I stretch my neck, then 5’9”), squinty as hell, and have a mesomorphic body shape. I met a gf of 5 years simply by walking up to a girl eating food in front of the Berkeley Public Library. She had a mouthful of green paste when I said to her, “Miss, I hate to be rude but what the hell are you eating?” It was tuna and avocado (no bread), and she laughed.

Another gf I met at a bus stop outside by work. I just said I liked her short hair and got her number. She was legit autistic and it still worked.

Another cold approach was this girl in Eugene, OR who I bummed a cigarette and was banging in less than five minutes with beers we stole from a street fair. Go ducks!

Another girl (RIP Kendal) I met when I was high as a kite and she was just chilling al fresco at my favorite coffee shop.

One woman I had a brief fling just started when I told her that the emergency warning system was going off the next day. An hour later, she’s cooking eggs in my kitchen topless.

My point is just because you suck doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.

>>33658467
I've recently started cold approaching
got a girl to go on three dates from it after approaching like 10 or so girls

we had sex twice
but now im ghosted
she was also the hottest girl i've ever been with
completely my type

but anyway, if you go on dating apps, the girls I match with are like 5-7s max
so cold approach seems to be the move for getting 7.5s easier

>>33658467
>Approach woman
>She instantly gets the 'ick and starts screaming
>Her white knight friend comes and knock you out
>Wake up in jail for attempted rape and sexual harassment

Many such cases

>>33661803
>have imagination
>can do anything
>use it to imagine this
lmao wild

What do you say when you cold approach a woman?

>>33661521
You clearly don't have autism or you are a greek god. Both options discards every single advice you have given.

>>33661850
You say something fun and nonchalant related to where you are, yourself, the girl in question, and something you like about her, ideally. There's no stock phrase for every situation.

>>33661856
Low quality >nuh uh ur wrong posts like this to long effort posts make coming here such a chore

>>33658467

if you have a good / confident voice and no when to take a no for a no and leave a person alone

if you sound like a wounded bird - no bitch wants that coming up to say hi

>>33661803
>many such cases
Why do retards keep using that phrase when they know it has never happened to them before?

>>33661449
I used to sleep around a lot, I've been in these social circles, I've played these games, I'm approaching the issue as somebody who is just tired of it. And again, it's not so much the signals that bother me, it's the fact that nobody can actually discuss their principles, because they don't have any. Like you can't even have a basic conversation with people anymore because there are just no meaningful thoughts inside their head.
Again, subtle communication isn't a bad thing, it's the fact that we spend more time on this than on genuine communication. And that to me is a sign of immaturity, just looking at the people who communicate in these ways with no other capacity for genuine conversation, it's evident they are immature, and we encourage signal reading bullshit more then we encourage sincerity in discussion.
I've been rejected, better to be honest and up front then dance around the bush.

>>33661499
I find it exhausting, there is a difference. Why should we as a culture encourage people to communicate in vague ways but don't teach them to express their emotions in healthy ways and communicate with sincerity? If you want to be subtle that's fine, but when I ask somebody a sincere question, and I get a bullshit answer, that is not autistic to expect that they are going to be responsible enough to define what their values are. Not even just in talking to women, the men do it too, probably because we've all been raised in this unhealthy gynocentric society, and women think it's cool and fine and dandy to talk like this whilst being unscrupulous individuals.
The same reason why we encourage young people to go out and drink and party but we do't encourage them to start families or gain skills. It's a sick society, and I'm just tired of playing these petty games.

>>33661521
>We went a week later and I got her number, fucked her ass before we finished the first beer
Degeneracy. You're proving every assumption I have about the immaturity of this manner of communication by engaging in promiscuity.
Sex adled degenerate society who places more emphasis on their ability to engage in cheap sex, and less time and energy in finding a genuine life partner who shares their values and they can start a family with.
I've played that game brother, it's disgusting, tiresome.
Everything you just described is evident of a dysfunctional society, and after years of participating in this bullshit I've had enough. I want something that's real and healthy, this ain't it chief.

>>33661741
maybe true. All gf's I had I just happened to meet "irl" by having progressive friendly interactions and feeling if the vibe. I was never able to get a girl I approached. Every time I said to myself :"
>"I like her, she's hot and just my type"
and went to talk to her it never worked, they didn't like me. In turn, I've only had one gf I actually liked (big tits) that I met in school. Again, the other gf's kind of just showed up and I said "alright, why not..." But after this last fling, I have to change my whole approach, because I've let myself be with a girl that is flat chested, which I abhor.
So thanks for the words.

It's how I got my wife. Two kids and a house later, here we are.

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>>33658820
>walk around with a slight smile on your face
You're going to look like a smug retard. Just be in a good mood.

>>33662096
>I find it exhausting, there is a difference. Why should we as a culture encourage people to communicate in vague ways but don't teach them to express their emotions in healthy ways and communicate with sincerity? If you want to be subtle that's fine, but when I ask somebody a sincere question, and I get a bullshit answer, that is not autistic to expect that they are going to be responsible enough to define what their values are. Not even just in talking to women, the men do it too, probably because we've all been raised in this unhealthy gynocentric society, and women think it's cool and fine and dandy to talk like this whilst being unscrupulous individuals.
>The same reason why we encourage young people to go out and drink and party but we do't encourage them to start families or gain skills. It's a sick society, and I'm just tired of playing these petty games.
You definitely have autism. People and flirting are not an impenetrable maze of meanings and innuendos. You're really not doing yourself by going from how you find people exhausting to WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!!1

>>33661850
You use body language and tone. The words that you speak are truly inconsequential.

>>33662212
doing yourself an favors*

>>33662096
You fucked around and found out. You should have used those skills to find a good wife to pork every day, multiple times a day instead of porking random girls over a period of time. You essentially have nothing to show for all of your exploits, except probably disease and mental illness. Sure, you might have some good memories, but wouldn't you have those regardless?

>>33662173
No problem

>>33662227
I agree with you. Nobody encouraged me to do what was healthy, because everyone has it in mind to sleep around and engage in degeneracy. My only saving grace is that all my "Friends" from that time are now overweight and doing the same shit they were doing in high school, while I'm trying to find something serious now. And maybe I can't, but that won't stop me from encouraging what is healthy, if only to counter balance all the people going around advocating for this degeneracy.

>>33662212
I don't think you understand my point at all anon. Why does our culture do more to encourage hedonism and vice then it does to encourage healthy behaviors?
Even accepting a degree of innuendo or subtle communication, that does not justify the fact that all these people cannot communicate their thoughts and emotions; and if it's any indication of the fact that I'm not autistic, it's the fact that I can actually express what I think and feel to other people without difficulty, and that I speak sincerely, while the rest of my socially inept generation continue to engage in shitty night life culture and double speak because they think it's just "What you do"
Acceptance of this kind of dysfunctional communication as normal doesn't sit well with me. Speak your mind. Maybe if we all started communicating more sincerely and embraced rejection and negativity then we could actually achieve something culturally.
As an individual, I will continue to speak my mind, and I renounce these petty word games that people play. I want sincerity, and so I will act sincere.
I'm only questioning what it's going to take for people to start being more sincere in return.

>>33662107
Jesus get off with the high falutin garbage.

So let’s get this straight - society’s bad so you can’t find love, right?
>Sounds like a “you” problem

I find plenty of lovable women out there. Come to Ohio some time, PLENTY of women screaming yo have a man let them be a stay-at-home mom. Most of them don’t even care about being poor.
>so why don’t you find one?
I like art hoes, damnit. I want bitches that act like Bjork. I have had real love and it is cyclical. Stop with the righteous doomery.

>>33661856
> You clearly don't have autism or you are a greek god
This dude >>33661893 is right. You’re a drag and I’ve already proved this in the target posts (search adv and you’ll get all the proof you need - not that you’d believe it).
>pearls before swine.

Lvl1 slime showed up just yesterday as the complete newfag that he is and quickly cemented himself as one of the worst poster on /adv/ of all time.

at least schooler was funny

>>33662264
Real love can only be found in shared principle, if you're not acting on principle how can you expect to find principled love?
By sleeping around, you are also showing to your partner that you are likely unfaithful. If you put out to the first bitch that comes along, what's stopping you from doing that in your marriage, cheating on her the moment the opportunity arises? If you don't demonstrate impulse control, it's a reasonable conclusion.
And what does it demonstrate to your potential partner? You're engaging with them foremost for cheap sexual thrills, and not on principle.
This is how healthy people have courted for generations, and how unhealthy people have justified their hedonism like you as acceptable just because others do it.
A successful relationship is founded on communication and shared values. You're the one whose encouraging wrongdoing, so stop doing that, and start acting in regard to ethics.

>>33661741
This person is brown and only goes after liberal women.

>>33662399
I am a 5'4 300 lbs 40 year old bald manlet, this is my second day on 4chan, and I've had sex with over 9000 victoria's secret models.

All you have to do is go "Miss, how do you do?" and give them a firm manager's handshake. It's that easy!

>>33662202
>You're going to look like a smug retard. Just be in a good mood.
If you're in a good mood you're probably going to have a slight smile on your face lol. Obviously don't have a smug smile on your face. I'm talking the corners of your mouth barely lifted. I started doing this and noticed women started smiling at me. It basically makes you seem confident and warm.

>>33658590
Shortcel doesn’t even fucking exist.

>>33658765
>>33658881
>>33661335
The point of dating is to get to know each to determine if you want to continue to spend time with each other.
All you need is an initial attraction to start exploring. And then you get to know each other. If you don't seem compatible, oh well, move on, no great investment lost.

The hard part isn't talking to women or getting them to date you or getting sex.
The hard part is finding a compatible partner.

>>33662197
so if you approach 100-200 girls youll get a gf
got it
pretty based

What defines top 1% in looks? How do you determine if someone is in the 1% as opposed to 2%?

Answer: you can't. There is no such thing. The sooner you understand this the sooner you will get over making excuses and actually do something.

>>33666119
>How do you determine if someone is in the 1% as opposed to 2%?
You look at them.

>>33666119
theyre a model

>>33666236
Women have varying tastes in men. Most will not share your tastes and will not find your 1% attractive.

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>>33658467
it can work, if you approach your looksmatch or single mothers.

>>33666278
Mega giga cope desu

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>>33666278
Whatever keeps the gun away huh?

why would incels rather seethe and spam meme graphs than ask a woman out?

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>>33666356
>not posting the related chart
I wonder why incels always have to lie.

>>33666381
because they are scary

>>33666425
>>33666453

>>33658467
don't use this picture, op. it applies you want to cold approach %1 even though you aren't %1.

post someone in the %80 first

>>33658467
if you see no problem with gambling, but instead of losing money you'll lose sanity, confidence and will to live
your choice.

>>33658467
Depends where you live. If you're in Bongistan or a similarly cucked country, you'll probably go to jail

>>33666425
>least attractive (0)
>most attractive (5)
>7 tick marks

>>33666356
>>33666425
These charts only prove that women are more attractive than men.

In other news, water is wet.

>>33661803
Not quite that severe, but bad reactions where the woman is disgusted/afraid are common.

>>33662214
Wrong. Have some lines in your reservoir, or else you’ll blank out and have nothing to say.

>>33658467
no stay home