not a bait post, i despise myself for it.even without talking about stuff like current politics i just hate this country. i hate the profound ugliness that seeps through it. people here no matter what 'class' have a really perverse, lifeless 'why bother' mentality that festers here unlike what ive seen elsewhere, its ugly. i go outside and get depressed because i live in a fucking shithole and even the nicer areas barely compete with those in other western euro countries, it is so ugly. there is no positive culture or elegace, it is just go to a pub and watch football, so profoundly crude and again, ugly. there are some good aspects that i like such as historical authors or tea culture but i still find myself admiring the histories and peoples of neighbouring countries more. i just prefer their cultures to ours even at its best.i tried to get to the root of why nationality and heritage has been so important to me since i was a kid and work from there but i cant. it just is. if i were werent white i think id just accept who i am but im so close to it its agony.im sick of waking up every day wishing i was born in france or germany. id still be a retarded loser but at least id be around beautiful architecture, a more admirable culture, better people, and pride in my heritage and history. sure i could move there but im not one of them. my lineage has amounted to this, these people and this culture is mine and nothing else, i cant take it. i cant change it but i still hate myself for it knowing that. what do?
>mentality that festers here unlike elsewhere grass is always greenergo to one of those nice places to find that your problem is internal>british culturewhile the french said "let them eat cake", brits were abolishing slavery across the globegood guys literally won
>>33664361>good guys literally wonAnd look where that got us.
>>33663581I like being British so much I moved here and got citizenship
>>33664361The slave owners never forgave the british for this.What you see now is their backlash.Be proud of your blood, not the conditions you are forced to live in by envious lesser "men" and their various desert cults.It hurts our soul to see what they do but all things come to pass and we will endure.
>>33664361>grass is always greeneryou're probably right but i also do think i just prefer the sort of culture and attitudes in continental countries. i know how entitled i sound complaining about being from a first world country (even if it is rapidly getting worse) but i think because i am so close to who i want to be that it makes me so miserable. if i were indian or something i could probably lay these worries to rest.>while the french said "let them eat cake", brits were abolishing slavery across the globenot denying that this country and its people have done great things but i think in daily life, in the things i am interested in like the arts and cultivating beauty, i just think damn i wish i were french, i look at the architecturally grim shithole i live in, our lack of beauty from our people to our culture and arts and how envious i am of the french and their achievements and i feel only shame for my blood no matter how great some of our achievements like the industrial revolution was. i know its entitled and stupid but it really is a matter of preference and wanting to be happy myself which i can't when i am british and i view it as inferior.>>33666103im glad you like it here anon but i really cant see why you'd come here over the nicer alternatives elsewhere unless its because of the language being widespread.
>>33663581>im sick of waking up every day wishing i was born in franceLMAOOOO
>>33666424at least you're aware that your ideas are all ass backwardsthis is all reads as "i dont go to new places and am getting sick because of it">wanting to be happy myself which i can't when i amcope projection you're not proud of yourself
>>33663581have some homepride, eh sonny boy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZIPulxb1Mg
>>33663581british weather, food and women made british men the best sailors in the world for centuriessounds like a french joke but it's actually true
>>33666491'murican here, I would genuinely like to know the answer to the 2nd question.
>>33666454see >>33666491+ better food, culture, people and going outside wouldn’t make me depressed because their towns and cities aren’t shitholes>>33666473no i think i have laid it out as simply and honestly as i can. its the one thing keeping me from being proud of myself.
>>33666491slim != good, because no titsalso there's only like 2 economically good regions in france, also food and culture is overrated, architecture aint even that great it's just so bland and uninspiring. Also do you want to hang out with swarthoids?
>>33667508speak for yourself, i love the food, culture and architecture and i've been enough to know they're not swarthy and even if they were i don't care theyre still white. for me it is the ideal country and culture in most aspects and the fact that my ancestors and my blood, the sum of my parts, weren't part of that and i too am not either kills me, i wish i could rewrite my existence.
Being English is great if you go move to the country and visit some historical places that haven't been ruined by immigrants yet. Some parts of Kent are still beautiful.
>>33663581City centers of any western countries are a shit hole and is designed to make you feel worthless. cities are effectively just giant, tacky refugee/mental asylum camps that are pure hateful of the country and culture they are in. I always tell tourists to look far into the country side since they still have good semblance of pure British culture.So my suggestion is get a driver's/motor bike license and try to find a cushie rental in the country side....it may be 45mins drive to work or something but it is worth it.
>>33663581I have this experience with North America too. I have a nicer walk than picrel but it's not as nice as it could be and anywhere worth going to requires driving or an unnecessarily long series of bus transfers. I saw a woman pulling her children in a car-looking thing on a main road with no sidewalk. Dangerous. However, I don't think that these external factors are simply making me miserable. It's my own psyche that is making me miserable. Psyche is a product of environment in many ways, but that's a complex interplay. You can't just call your environment flat out wrong in and of itself unless there's like an atrocity occurring. If you were born in Germany or France you would be a different person. If you go to Germany or France, which could be good for you, you will still have to bring yourself.
>>33663581>>33669789By the way, I think France and Italy might make more sense than France and Germany. Germany is not as different from England as you think. If you're looking for a small change you could try Scotland or Northern Ireland. I've noticed significant differences within my own state.
>>33663581>>33669800And, to top it off, I hear France is copying America in its economic policies. So soon it will be a samehole if it isn't already.
>>33667768Maybe this too. A lot of England's history in terms of its land and peoples is in rural lifestyles.
I moved to Germany from scotland, from a population of 5k to 40k. literally nothing is different except i cycle everywhere and there are more options for sweets
>>33669815Oh ye, ive known german since i was a child so yea your experience will be different If youre not fluent. Contrary to popular belief, germans cant actually speak english
>>33669803yeahit's a very good place to be when you have some money, but poor people live in shitty suburbs overrun by arab thugs and drug dealers. nowadays some cities also have illegal migrants from africa roaming everwhere in historical centers too.
>>33663581idk why British people are so down like this. I'm American and I just visited London for a week and I thought it was awesome. Went to so many great museums, saw a bunch of great theater, and just generally had a fantastic time. So what's the problem?
>>33670202Because most of England looks like the OP picture. That’s why.
>>33670202London is probably great to visit as a tourist but that’s because most tourists will only go to the museums and see the posh areas of Westminster and Kensington and not the run down slums ten minutes out of them.
>>33663581it’s alright bongfren, it could be worse, [spoiler]you could be Canadian.[/spoiler] for real though, I feel your pain too and will be killing myself shortly
>>33663581Do what you can to leave Britain. My stepdad doesn't regret leaving it. He's lived here in the USA for over 20 years.I hate living in the USA, so I'm doing what I can to escape it. You should do the same and escape the UK.
Get into politics. There's only one way out of this. The same thing is happening in literally every white country. It must be reversed.
>>33669800>>33669803>>33669815moving wouldnt help because its not just about where i live. these are the people i am related to, this is the country my people made. moving won't change what is written in my blood. the more i've been thinking about it lately the more i've questioned killing myself because it's one of the few things that can't be changed.
>>33663581Lmaoooo I'm sorry man, your fellow country men and women are fucking retards and have sealed themselves off with BrexitYour country is terrible, horrible. Horrible hierarchical society, with bullying built into the culture and they call it "banter", everything is rules and strictness and your government is disgustingly big brother like, to the point of wrong think almost being a real thing. I feel it when I go to the UKI'm proud to be Dutch, I love my fellow people and they love me, my country is beautiful, there's no shortage of nature, too bad for you that you can't make it hereAlso your wishes of going to Germany and France of all places seem so misguided to me, Germans are as hierarchical as the British they are just a bit less bitchy about it, and French people suck and are bad at organization and being on time and doing anything right. Wish for better countries.
>>33676621you don’t have to rub it in ;-;
>>33663581Watch Trainspotting over and over and over. Then come to New York babyyyyyNo but seriously England's dying. You guys fucked yourself hard with Brexit and you're about to fuck yourself even harder with Reform and the stupidest, lowest-common-denominator people you know will be ecstatic about it. Get out while you can and come to Burgerland, the land of opportunity
>>33677140I'm sorry man. But with enough desperation you can make it out. You just wrote that you don't want to because you'd feel like you're disappointing your fellow country men and women. But I'll tell you what, if you can't let go of this notion of "I'm British" and get into the mindset of "I'm me, and I'll be where I'm happy" then there's no remorse from me to you and you deserve what you get. I'm in the Netherlands, I'm a Dutch citizen, but I'm actually originally from Israel, I left that disgusting stressed Arabic shithole for this beautiful land because of the beautiful people here. If I could do it you can do it too. You only, live, once
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>>33673627I can hear the nitrous balloons of Shoreditch now
>>33663581Britain sucks>t. American who lived in Manchester (Oldham) and London (Finsbury Park, Tottenham)My experience was that it was a socialist anarchy-tyranny nightmare. It seemed to breed generations of morons and people desperately hiding in their ugly row houses to avoid crime and dreariness.It could be cool and happening, but I hit into more fist fights there for playing music in the street than anywhere else in the world.I think it’s too far gone. While you’ll never be homeless, you can’t walk anywhere without hitting a godforsaken chicken shop. Meth was surprisingly ubiquitous. Foreigners everywhere. Pakis tried to rape my gf when she went on a walk. Muzzies try to act hard until they hear an American accent (they envy us). Fuck curry mile. Repeat after me, limeys:SoccerAluminum (not Aloomineeum)Vitamin (not vit a min)GArage (not gaaahraggge)Schedule (not Shed jewel)Bloody is not a curse word.
>>33663581mate everywhere sucks unless you are richnormies are gay in all countries
>>33664361>go to one of those nice places to find that your problem is internalFalse. I moved somewhere else a year ago and haven't been depressed since, despite having no friends or family here.
some years ago I went on the following vacation : roadtrip from central to eastern europe(slovenia,[...], ukraine), followed by 2 weeks in glorious britain (several cities)I still remember how shocked I was when I realized how trashy & ugly british women actually are. compared to the classy blonde sexy slavic women, it was night and day.
>>33681758you dont have to tell me i live with themi just dont want to be related to these people in any capacity, the fact that these are my people makes me feel suicidal
>>33663581Belfast?
>>33663581From an American perspective the UK is aggressively slowly self destructive and they go into attack mode when you point out they're doing something dumb.Legacy euro population is like that in general but the UK (or maybe the nordics) seem to be the capital of it.Like... an american hits their thumb while building a birdhouse, "oh shit that hurts I will avoid doing that again".A UK hits their thumb while building a birdhouse, "I will now hit my thumb daily for the rest of my life to punish those fascist bastards for making me hit my thumb"Talking politics is somehow even worse.
