I, 20F, have never even dated or had touched a dude. Throughout my childhood, most guys around me avoided me because I was clearly giga autistic with extreme depressive tendencies. Along with my female classmates' bullying and isolating me, I didn't have friends either so I ended up pretty fucked up social wise. Other than not knowing how to make eye-contact and make small talk, I'd say that I am not 100% unapproachable. I don't have many hobbies either but that was a byproduct of depression and the burnout of living.I wouldn't say that I am boring perse, only a little insane compared to the normies. I do realize that I am either too blunt and serious sometimes or too jokey. Again, autism. If were to date, I think I'd be a decent girlfriend. Going on dates in aquariums have always appealed to me... the romcom propaganda. Movies are also viable, I think holding hands while watching is cute, we can talk about what we think afterwards and spend time together for even longer. Long walk in the nights and buying kobini together, talking about what's out opinions on things or what we would do in a situation. I am starting to feel lonely again.Appearance wise, I got compliments before that I looked pretty and have had people approach me for my socials (I had none) so I am not below average at least. I am not feminine, I don't do makeup and have never put any on, my height is slightly above average also. I occasionally workout so my arms are fit? I suspect it's a traditional value in femininity issue that guys are not into me. I do not have trouble with fashion, my type of style of mostly dark with a few accessories. My hair is cute. I don't know what I am doing wrong.Sorry for the formatting, I only lurk here. I will try to reply to everyone's advice. Thank you for your time.
guys will think you're a dyke or weird if you don't do makeup. women's regular face reads as depressed/low effort/miserable. any guy trying to get with you like that is almost assuredly trying to finesse you because he thinks you have low enough self esteem to exploit
>>33665254You just haven't met the guy under the right circumstances to get to know them ultimately. Lots of people when young and even when older just want to date one of the "types" they fetishize and will like anything about that person early on if they are your type. It is probably the non approachability, socials norms, and bad luck. Lots of young people are late bloomers, especially these days.
>>33665301I'd try to date her since she might find me useful as a practice bf>so much self-confidence I know, sometimes I wonder how I'm still singlePlus she actually seems not cray, unlike the usual femcel posters here.
>>33665301I will try to get some in the future. I tried out the samples in the mall on my arm sometimes because they smell really nice. The only issue is that it felt weird because I am not used to it.>>33665302You're probably right but I have never really make any effort of talking to people in the beginning. I have come to accept that it won't happen to me soon but your positive outlook is nice.Thank you for your suggestions and advices.
>>33665355I don't think that's healthy for either of us. But the thought is nice.
>>33665301Not true. You're assuming a lot about an anon's appearance. There are girls who look very good naturally without makeup and have good complexion. Makeup is not going to make a difference. The girls who wear it alredy know how to socialize more "normally" than OP, and have sexual experience, and sending that signal would just be false advertising if anything. If you have a pretty face you don't need makeup OP. It does not attract guys in the way you probably want. Men who want to stick around would prefer to see how you actually look.>>33665403The ball is always in your court first. You only need to approach a man you have interest in and exchange numbers. That's it. If you live on the west, the culture discourages men to approach. If you want it to happen you have to "drop the hankerchief," and give a social "in" for a man to feel like he can talk to you, and make it obvious you want to. The blunter the better, if you think he likes you. Don't just flat out act stupid though and spill your spaghetti. Despite the incel talk on the board, women CAN come off as desperate too, and it's usually annoying when a woman approaches me when I have zero interest and they can't take the hint. Especially when I hardly know them. But that's almost always because they are batting out of their looks league. Sorry to say but you should really approach men on your level, least you risk being taken advantage of or used.Find some guy you want to be friends with, warm up to him over time and just ask if he wants to be friends with you. Take it from there and see what happens. If he is responding positively to what you say to him then that's a good sign. Don't put out for just anyone. Make friends with a man first. But you, as the woman, have to get that ball rolling. I don't really pursue women anymore, but if a cute or relatable girl showed effort to get to know me, I would make time for her to give it a chance. Just show interest. They won't magically appear.
>>33665254Be honest, are you fat and trans?
>>33665517Socilizing is extremely scary but you're 100% right. I legit hated how hard it is approaching someone and making friends in general.Thank you for the advice. I will try harder.>>33665535Cishet. I was lean enough to have abs at some point but studies got in the way and most of my muscles have softened up by now.
>>33665254>have had people approach me for my socials (I had none)So have you considered getting any? A lot of people find exchanging phone numbers right away too personal
>>33665254you’re autistic af, i do have a question tho. do you even care who you’re going out with on cute dates?(like what they look like, type of person etc.)
>>33665638Is it worth it when I dont post any pictures? I made an effort of making an insta account today (discord and twitter also but those are mainly to sign up for games) but I dont have any pictures of myself that look "good". It had been half a year since I had dressed up to go somewhere nice.>>33665679>at least taller than me or same height (165cm/5'5) if we're the same age/younger>older? preferred (optional)>not mean (optional)>dark hair (optional)>not bad looking>average or plans to be fit (we can workout together, I think it's a good motivation for me also but it's okay if not)>has a hobby/interest (so I can listen and learn about, bonding point)>is okay with cats (not optional)>likes late night walks (bonding point)>more sociable than me>education/job doesn't matterSorry for the vagueness. I don't think I really don't have a specific ideal person? The closest thing that I could imagine as attractive is a character from JJK, but that's more based on a fantasy than anything.Thank you for your time.
>>33665861okay this is good, we’re getting somewhere. basically you don’t want a fucking loser lol. also wtf is >not mean (optional)? basically you just want someone who’s more experienced than you
>>33665599>I was lean enough to have abs at some point but studies got in the way and most of my muscles have softened up by now.go on
>>33665882>wtf is >not mean (optional)How do I even elaborate this...? Not entirely an irredeemable asshole. I am okay if the guy is mean/blunt/mannerless, banter is okay, I just dont want to feel like shit lmao. I should've worded it better, apologies.
>>33665254You are probably mid or ugly. This is how an attractive woman looks like.
>>33665861>>not mean (optional)women
Have you ever asked a guy out or set up a dating site profile? You need to put yourself out there. Guys will not fall into your lap if no one knows you exist.
>>33666089I did try out my luck on both bumble and tinder. Most guys I matched with were doing because of curiosity (my bio was in full english, I am in Asia) or sex. The convos were dry even though I tried to ask for their hobbies and stuff. I didn't hit it off with them which is okay and I didn't mind.I don't know if it's worth it to try again. I can't really LARP as a normie...
>>33666108Try setting your location to Europe and see what happens.
>>33665254Are you hot? Will you have sex with a boring jaded somewhat fit man? Y/N/Maybe
>>33666112Anon I tried to do the location trick with VPNs and GPS changer but it didn't work. Thank you for your suggestion but I don't think that throwing money at corpas would be a financially good option. Maybe one day I will consider it... One day.>>33666162No. Thank you for offering.
>>33665254try boo, a lot of quirky autists there, wont have to larp as much
>>33665254What is your nationality? What continent are you on? Go to a therapist.
>>33665457I was mostly memeing. In reality a girl like you would probably end up being pretty compatible with me. After I've fixed my shit, however.
>>33665254You are my type (from what you described), physical attraction is really important. Love helps bridge gaps if there is any. Nothing you said was a negative to me. Honesty even if brutal is really important to me. Working through things to grow together as well. Being willing to listen. Being willing to be wrong. If wrong I want to grow through it closer with you. There are obviously relationship killers that can't be worked through like cheating things. I know you will meet a guy who is into you.
>>33665254Kouva, is that you?Has anything changed over the years?>>33665301Bruh, no makeup is a massive green flag. Since it's like the 1% of women they get a lot of attention unless they have repulsive features like tats or piercings
>>33666108Wow, didn't expect you to move (assuming you moved and aren't travelling). Was it because of your dad?
>>33667396I hope you get better soon, anon. Ik It's hard sometimes but once you actually went through with improving yourself no matter how little, you will feel happier inside and out.>>33668152This is one of the nicer things that people have told me. I share the same opinions as you as well. Change is horryifying to exprience alone, even more to see changes in yourself. I am aware that I am not perfect, far from it but I want to be good and deserving of someone one day.Thank you, I hope you find love also. Best of wishes.>>33670522Unfortunately, my name isn't Kouva. I hope you find them one day.
>>33665254All your problems are made up, you don't have a single real problem, therefore you don't need any advice except let yourself enjoy the happiness that is your birthright as a woman
>>33665254It's "per se" bitch
>>33665254You sound really far up your own ass and conceited and like you're a chore to talk to and be around. I feel taxed just reading this shit.>>33671427Dammit I wanted to say this.
>>33671530
im almost your age and im extremely lonely im white in a country that 70% of people aren´t white I had a girlfriend when i was 14 it lasted 4 months, my life is misery and pain is useless I know how to talk to women and even approach them and tried mutiple times but not a single girl takes any interest in me I DON´T KNOW what is wrong with me.... (maybe being 5´8)
>>33671337But does your discord handle begin with Kouva? (Didn't write the full one since you might not want to)This HAS to be you, everything lines up
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>>33665254are you fat?
>>33671669>im extremely lonely im white in a country that 70% of people aren´t whiteUK or Sweden?
>>33665254Hi OP, it doesn't seem to me that you have much to worry about. You have at least one hobby (gym) but maybe another one would be good for you. I appreciate my painting class because it's a place I can go to and do a solo hobby with other people. We chat a little in the breaks. You could try that, or sculpting, or something. It doesn't matter if you're good at it, a big reason to do stuff like that is because it feels good to have a thing you do that you don't have to be good at. in such a setting, meeting people becomes easier. Show up at places where guys you would be interested in hang out.
I'm guessing if you're not actually quite ugly or you don't have high standards you're not in the right place. So travel somewhere else where women can basically choose anything they want.
>>33665254You're living life on easy mode and still failing. Wasted potential
>>33676524This. Women are fucking stupid.
>>33676502Bro, she's a white girl in Asia
What should I do bros>>33677732
>>33665254lol girls don't have problems, nice try tranny
>>33677932>incel take>obsession with tranniesTranny hands
>>33665254>approach me for my socials (I had none)Why? They're free and essentially required. Note you are required to have social media accounts, you are not in any way required to use them. With the exception you might want to log in monthly or so. People get bitchy if they send you a friend request and you don't reply within a couple months. I only log into Facebook a couple times per year, for example. Don't install the apps on your phone they're mostly useless to non-addicts.If you're seen holding a phone in public and tell someone you have no account they'll assume, in 2025, that you're lying, so its socially less confrontational to just have an account, one you don't use.I've been bitched out for "refusing" to share my instagram because I was reading a book on my phone so why won't I tell them my insta? I have a nice empty account now to avoid those sort of confrontations. Insta is weird as fuck BTW its all young women trying to get people to watch late night infomercials for questionable products. Like who the hell would voluntarily want to see that?
>>33665254>I was clearly giga autisticIf you're diagnosed, depending on local area, you can take free social skills classes etc and given the M/F ratio you will be VERY VERY popular at those classes, thats for sure.If you're not diagnosed and merely using my peeps identity as your fashion statement, then F off and enjoy the traditional 4chan welcome of "tits or gtfo"I am old enough to see a strange cultural shift where what used to be described as anxiety disorder now almost universally be described as autism, which is weird because most people on the spectrum are chiller than average unless being F-d over or oppressed. Some dude watching Thomas the Tank Engine videos is in his comfy place, not being anxious at all, whereas normies seem to think any feeling of self doubt or anxiety is magically "normie autism" which is pretty bullshit. Its like frantically describing anyone who's scared of spiders as being an "alcoholic" Anyway, in summary don't forget to post the tits.
>>33671530>I feel taxed just reading this shit.I think this is what (((they))) mean when they refer to "emotional labor".The male response to getting way too much dumped on them as an intro is "I just met you ain't nobody got time for this."
