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I want to become a toxic or confident man. Now, this may sound pretty lame, but in the past six months, every woman I have met has treated me as a punching bag venting about how toxic her ex was and how she can’t get him out of her mind.

This may sound terrible, but I don’t want to be the punching bag anymore. Even if I have to pretend to be someone else, I don’t want to hear about other guys. Please do not tell me that I shouldn’t pretend to be someone else, because I’ve literally tried that, and it always lands me in the friend zone.

I need help understanding how to be one of those men. I’m tired of handling the mess someone else has created I want to create the mess and let someone else handle it.
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you probably give off the herbivore vibe
you're supposed to try to fuck the women you meet, and move onto the next if they reject. don't befriend those women, unless they're willing to introduce you to single friends.
eventually you'll manage and will get the ball rolling.
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How do i do so i don't know how to not give this shit lame as vibe
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>>33666990
I came here to dish out some solid advice OP but this nigger already gave you everything you need to know
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>>33667177
You can still tell me
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>>33666979
Same desu, but fuck it, these women are retarded. They want toxic, but toxic doesn't last. They are destined to be single mothers or in abusive / neglectful relationships

Don't stop being kind and generous - just be more discerning. The moment a girl talks about her ex, casual sex or some other slut-tier bullshit, you're out. Gone. Ghosted. All you need to do is find ONE girl who isn't like that. Playing the whole toxic game will get you some casual sex with retarded women, sure, but ask yourself - is that really what you want? Of course, you can integrate your aggression and sexual nature into your 'new' self and (more importantly) have the self respect to ditch retarded or selfish women who dunk this shit on you. So do that. And hit the gym / dress well / work on social skills blah blah blah, obviously. But you should be doing that anyway.
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>>33666979
>I want to create the mess
I'm willing to bet that you'd rather find love. Don't cope and turn into a retard just because you're not who you could be yet. Learn from your mistakes, let your confidence grow with trial and error, be willing to walk away and you'll find it one day.
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>>33666979
turn 360° and walk away
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>>33666979
"Emotional dumping ground". This happend to me recently. After sex once she said "I don't like when guys cum on my face. It feels dehumanising. It's nice that you seem to care about me."

I didn't even know what to say desu. She was fucking cooked. She claimed I was "refreshing" but made weird comments comparing me to other guys on pretty much every date, said the words "I'm the prize" unironically, and was very selfish in bed. She said she'd only get on top of she's "obsessed" with the guy, i.e. +as you say) if he treats her badly and she wants to "win" him over. Sex and dating was a transaction for her. The difference between you and I and the guys these girls want, is that they view it as a transaction too.

You're not missing out on much with these girls anon - if they like toxic guys, they're toxic themselves, I guarantee it. She was the hottest girl I ever fucked, but also the most selfish and cranky retarded - by far. I realised then that the hot crazy scale is true, and I haven't tolerated an ounce of disrespect from a girl since. Plus I have the confidence to do whatever I want in bed. Life is good, she taught me a lesson
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>>33670634
so how do you approach these woman
until i find a sane human atleast i can get laid



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