I've realized I can't have a healthy relationship with women. My mother is a narcissist and made me hate women before I even got to know them properly. Then I was exposed to porn and blackpilling, which reinforced that women are very narrowly focused on a small subset of men with traits that I do not possess (not in terms of attractiveness, but behavior). I don't want treat someone like trash just to get into bed with them. At the same time I feel like sex is all that matters with women. In all honesty I can't imagine a loving relationship with a woman, I'm 34 and I have never had one. What could be done at this point?
Start dating men so you realize you can't have a loving relationship with them either.
Eugenics is killing the guy dead before he can shoot his shot. Afterwards it's natural selection.>women are very narrowly focused on a small subset of men with traits that I do not possess (not in terms of attractiveness, but behavior)Think about it this way: should a man choose a narcissistic wife so his son(s) can have her as a mother?
>>33680554I feel like I'm being killed, just over time. I'm alone and it affects me in ways which will lead to inevitable demise. Is that rational? Up to you, but that's how it feels, I'm extremely unhappy anyway.
>>33680595Before anyone assumes I'm too deep into learned helplessness, I'm not. This thread is me wanting to find an answer that could push me in a good direction. I think I can make it, but because everything has been quite negative, I just don't see the answers.
>>33680595I don't think your feelings even have a real answer.Maybe try to figure out what you want first. You want company but what do you want from the company?
>>33680611Ideally? Someone who makes my life easier and more fulfilling, which would go both ways, not just me getting but not giving. Obviously the things I offer would be different from what she offers, men and women are very different after all.Rationally speaking I have to make some baby steps and at least get comfortable with the idea of being intimate with a woman. Actually have sexual relations. Being friends is something I went through already and it never felt satisfying or useful. It was just them complaining about mundane shit, being an emotional tampon as people put it. It's not like I can't be on good terms with women, but what I need is to be in a proper, sexual relationship with one. To catch up physically and emotionally. Why is it difficult? Because of all the things I mentioned in the OP. I have a very toxic relationship with women, I hate them but I also want them. I make myself someone they don't want.
>>33680641Emo and cringe.You really don't know how to act
>>33680659That doesn't tell me anything and it's not like I think I'm in the right. I just say how it feels, not what I think is correct.
>>33680433>can't have a healthy relationshipDON'T have a healthy relationshipyou gotta process the WHY before you cantook me like 6 months of therapy to get a handle on how bad my mother was, i no longer chase women who do the same shityou also sound entitled and immature for 34 - talk to more people
>>33680965In what way do I sound entitled? I have literally 0 positive relationships with women, wanting more than 0 is entitled to you?
>>33680967im giving advice, not taking questions
>>33680972You should be able to explain briefly why you think a certain way so the advice has greater impact. Just calling someone entitled without providing an explanation leaves them confused at best
>>33680976see? entitled*bows and leaves*
>>33680998Understandable *bows in return*
>>33680998kek no kek as in kek for >>33680972 bc no you do need to give advice to give advice. Even if it's one guy vs everybody.. if everybody just says you got a x problem and doesn't explain lol like yeah obviously what the first person is saying and doing is probably exactly what they are referring to but most people who are willing to just go around saying YOU as in just starting any sort of sentence with you, they are bitches. YOU are just always blah blah blah yeah actually not even true bitch.You are halfway to understanding that it is just your perspective... but also not... bc women are people first... people with tits. So they know they are cute and can get away with anything. It's a fact. They can't help but be sociopaths when things come so easy. But there really is an entirely different world out there, a world of abundance, one in which you may actually still not get laid bc people assume you do and you just fail to fuck the five or so hot bitches around you. But you know... WELL ADJUSTED PEOPLE. just start fucking IMAGINING IT. because you really have to expect shit for it to come to you sometimes
>>33680433Every single man in the world has mother issues. Every single man in the world has seen too much porn. They don't all give up. That's all that is wrong with you - you have given up.
>>33681318On some level sure, but how do I recover? That's the whole point, I'm consumed by negativity towards women, myself and the world, I suppose. I can't imagine a woman wanting me on her own accord, not currently at least, and I'm already 34. I mean what the fuck do I do?
