>What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and BooksWingman.live: https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)"Models": https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html"No More Mr Niceguy": https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612Wingmam: https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamDr. NerdLove: https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/Leykis 101: https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwqhttps://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html(new suggestions with working links are welcome)REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Prev: >>33657144
Fuck it. I'm going to go downtown and try to get some trashy girls at a bar, maybe I'll get lucky.I'm assuming my best bets are clubs?
Is this true?
You can do it, bros. Just market yourself
>>33687999Yep, pretty much.
>>33688107All Fat women
How do I send an opening message if someone's profile is fucking barren besides a few pics
>>33688107I'm going to wait a week and then make an account and work on my profile. I'll definitely need some interesting and recent pictures.
>>33688471Stop dating, Go to asia for a wife
How do you actually get a girl to be your girlfriend? I have talked to girls but it goes no where.
RepostingHow do you text women in ways that keep them interested? I hear to keep it to short, single texts but I feel there's more to it than thatIRL you just have to match their timing, be charming, funny, and assertive with the way you move about. Also present decently. Easy enough. Texting feels like I'm going off on a limb here
How do I get over the crippling fear that if I approach a woman she'll accuse me of harassment?
>>33687932I have the long-term pipeline figured out saying that I'm dating to marry and shit and have a body count of 8 as a result.>Meet woman on an app>Text for a few days, mild lovebombing>Meet up 3-4 times>Have sexThing is, this is really slow and I really just want to have regular sex. I don't get any likes or matches with women who are looking for short-term relationships on the apps. What's the difference? How do I market myself to the whores who do ONS?I have a job, car, and most importantly an apartment now so hooking up would be super easy and convenient.
>>33688505You ultimately have to find some way to spend time hanging out with them. By then you can likely tell if she is into you then flirt.
>>33688622Can you give a young but not so young nigga advice?
>>33687999Same as it always was. You can never be too unavailable.
>flirt with women> it goes nowhere but she kinda confessed feelings for me> do nothing> eventually move on =??(i probably didnt lol)>she talks with other guys = i get jealousi swear this shit drives me crazy how do i turn this off
Well, been hanging out with this woman that's been all over me, holding my hand, making out, initiating all the physical contact. We know each other from a local spot we both go to but last weekend we started hanging out outside of there and really hit it off, pretty much been with her all week. Noticed she was pulling back a little so I'm giving her space and staying in tonight but I asked if she wants to go out on a date next weekend. Friend of ours told me that the night she was acting cold that all she can think about is me. Not sure if anyone else has been in this situation.
>>33688869>i swear this shit drives me crazy how do i turn this offBy going after any woman you run into, eventually you'll meet one that finds you attractive, even if you don't think of her as attractive the attention is nice and you might actually like her.
>>33688622You’re just not what women want for “short term fun,” simple asAll the fucking idiots thinks here that your stats like height and income make you attractive to women, without remembering women are irrational and actually stupid. They want to fuck delinquents with abs and tattoos and piercings when they’re “having fun,” not Mr. Put Together. You get to marry them after they get blown out by Barroom Billy and Rockabilly Rebel Johnny and Denarius Niggerson And no, it’s not fair. The hugboxers will say “oh they’re being fun, they’re being confident, they’re being alpha” but they aren’t. If we lived in better times they’d get the Emmett Till treatment because these types of men are just as poisonous for civilized society as the unbridled whores known as modern women. My advice is just stop dating around and wait to find someone you actually want to marry, with a body count as close to zero as you can get. It’s just pussy, sex really is overrated. Just forget about casual encounters, they’re not for you.
>>33687932What kind of drink does she have?
>>33688970Pina colada, banana daiquiri, or some tropical fruit slush like that. Can't tell from the shot whether it has alcohol in it or not though
Well that couldn't have went any fucking worse bros and the worst part is there's no one actually at fault so all I can do is yell at the clouds
>>33687717>Again they make up a small number of women with those type A personality traits. Women don't care that much about their husbands being some weird CEOThose studies weren't about women with specific personalities but about women in general. Even Mythbusters did a experiment about it and found that women rated men lower or higher based on their occupation and status, but tbf the women were in their 30s-40s and the sample size was much smaller, though I would imagine that it's true to an extent for women in their 20s especially women in their late 20s.I'm not saying that being independent and driven, and doing more things than playing videogames isn't important, but money and status seems to be a pretty big boost.I'm currently working on myself, but I understand that I don't have anything to offer to average women around my age.
>>33688479What works for me>1 pic that acts like a portrait to show your face clearly>1 pic of you in a group to show you're not a loner>1 pic of you with kids or dogs to show your more tender side>1 of you doing an activity like a sport to show that you do things >2 fodder pictures that can highlight any aspect that you want, playful, athletic, funny, whatever. These should act as conversation startersThen for prompts just be urself
>>33689392>though I would imagineFriendly bit of advice, don’t assume anything if there isn’t any evidence. Yes, older women want husband material but if it doesn’t say anything for younger women, then don’t invent something just to give yourself an excuse to not try.
>>33688505At some point you have to make your intentions clear. You dont accidentally get a girlfriend, she has to be aware that you like her and she has to agree. >>33688622Present yourself as a manslut on tinder and they'll be all over you
>>33688915Dude. She's in love with you.
>>33689509Me assuming that younger women do care about money and status isn't wrong because there's amount evidence to back it up, and besides, I said to an extent, so not as much as mature women.
>>33689392Anon you just confirmed everything I said in the last thread. Idk why you are arguing. I was specifically talking about women in ages 18-29. Specifically mentioned that women don't really start caring about their husband's or boyfriend's careers until after 30. And again you can't take what a small number of women mark on a survey as gospel. Again we're in agreeance, you're just worrying too much.
Should I ask my asexual girl friend if she knows of anyone who's single? Or is this retarded?
Guys how the fuck do I start off this conversation, just matched for the first time on Tinder with someone who has "open relation" in their bio and looking for is set to "not sure".I just want to get laid for the first time since a few years, its not even funny at this point anymore. She's tall and slender, kinda butterface but in a cute way so I wanna shoot my shot
>>33691234I am assuming the space between girl and friend is intentional to signal she isn't your romantic partner?What are you afraid of? that's she'll take offense to you asking her something related to relationships or sex? I wouldn't be afraid of that unless she has shown to be sensitive on that matter.
>>33688471don’t swipe on anyone who doesn’t give you anything to work with >>33688559that depends on your approach, are you hitting women up in a situation where they can’t walk away from you? >>33691251just flirt with her, compliment her and shit, then ask her to come over before things get too hot
>>33691258>I am assuming the space between girl and friend is intentional to signal she isn't your romantic partnerYup.>What are you afraid of?I dunno, I don't want to make it awkward or something. She's a good friend and I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable with stuff like this
>>33691325>I dunno, I don't want to make it awkward or something. She's a good friend and I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable with stuff like thisGet drinks, become tipsy, ask. If anything goes wrong you can blame it on the alcohol.
>>33688471>Pancakes or waffles?Then claim the opposite answer of what she says is better.
Unsolicited advice. If you are embittered, jaded, desperate, angry or in any similar state, women pick up on it pretty quickly. Women find it repellant and if they do not they probably have a lot of demons
>>33691345Very good unsolicited advice and 100% true. I'm very bitter and angry after a bad falling out with family and having my heart played with my some e-thot, not even bothering to play the pussy game right now. It's paying dividends and doing wonders for my peace of mind t b h
>>33691345this is true. the better way to be is "acting like i already have women in my life," which is full of confidence and even sometimes avoidant behavior like you're trying to get away from her, but if it comes from a place of bitterness it becomes clear you have no women. put everything through the filter of: "does this make it look like i already have women in my life" and you'll start to understand female attraction
>>33691325If she's a good friend to you and that is felt mutually, why would your friend not like to see you happy with one of their friends?The fact that you are worried about this, means that you care about your friend. I don't think there is anything wrong with just saying that>Hey so do you have any lady friends that are maybe single?And if it gets awkward just say:>hey I'm sorry I didn't want to make things awkward, I was kinda worried about this before asking, hope you're not mad ok?
>>33688559This is my experience every time I have approached women since 2020. Was raised in a shit hole of a family. Mom was a alcoholic and most of my uncles and aunties are druggies. Cousins dying like flies early age. The whole upbringing was just a traumatic experience. Somehow I managed to make something of my self. Been working hard and going consistently to the gym since 2020/2021. Even with big money at my disposal women will always see me as a creep and a loser. Maybe they can sense my trauma/ptsd? Maybe I'm just ugly overall? Maybe I don't deserve any love or affection in this life? All I know is women despise me whatever I do. It's like being attracted to Satan who only wants me to suffer in all o eternity. Shit is fucked
If I’m a below average looking white guy, do I stand a chance getting with an overweight Latina woman? I find them really attractive
>>33687999yes everything you read online is true
How do you learn to forgive yourself for not asking out any of the multiple girls who were clearly attracted to you?>especially if you've never dated before
Where and how nowadays, frens? Though i´ve had already a few girlfriends, it seems more and more like a impossible mission. Its like i have to do so much more, for so much less. I´m legit wondering if theres some new meta game that i missing, or if life will be just weak Tinder dates and waiting on the divine?
>>33693111nothing to apologize for as long as tomorrow you take what you learned and seize on new opportunities
25 year old virgin should I see a hooker so I at least know how sex works if I manage to get a gf?
>>33687932How can I get a girl like the one in the OP? She seems so sweet, I wonder what's her type
>>33693774Hookers are good for demystifying sex in some ways. I got a lot more focused on work and my personal goals after going on a bit of a bender with hookers after my last breakup. Also makes me less tolerant of woman's bullshit since I know I can nut in a hot Korean massage girl's mouth after fucking her silly for $200 which isn't a lot of money to me. If I'm taking more than just a few hours of time just to bust a nut with some random thot, the unit economics literally do not make sense.That's just sex though. I think you should save yourself for your first GF. Even with my mongering ways I still lost my virginity to my first girlfriend. I was 20, you're a little older but it's not too late. I think using a hooker to just lose your V card and "practice" sex is cheating yourself out of something kinda special.
>>33694005I’m just nervous I’m going to meet a girl I really like and then freak her out when she realizes I’m still a virgin at my age
>>33694038The right one won't careAlternatively, lie about it or just never bring it up. So many guys out there don't know how to fuck, and it's not like all women like being fucked the same way. If your first couple of times with a new girl are awkward that's not too unusual even if you're not a virgin. Eventually you'll get into the rhythm and learn how to make each other feel really good.Hookers are for when you're finished with women, not just getting started with them.
Any tips on these bumble prompts? I feel like they’re all so serious
>>33694038If she's only interested in you to fool around and sleep with then she might care, but if you're aiming for a real relationship she most likely won't care that much
>>33694193>Answer prompt>Immediately ends the conversation without reply>Don't answer prompt and make the same opening line I always do>Immediately ends the conversation without replySeems to be hit and miss which way to go. I've just stuck with my usual opening line and ignore the prompt because I seem to have better luck with it.
I don't agree with waiting for your first gf to fuck or lose your virginity when you have the expendable income to get a hooker. You spend $200 on an average date night with a girl and you don't get to fuck. When I go out to eat alone and drink a couple of glasses of wine or beer, I spend over $100 and I don't even live in an expensive city. Just take that same $200 and get a hooker. People need to drop the fantasy or idealization of sex being some important or magical experience that changes your life or impacts the rest of your decisions when it comes to intimacy or romance. It's not and it doesn't. My first sexual experience as a teen was not at all the ideal situation, it was rushed and not in a super private area, but outside of demystifying sex or getting over the hump of virginity, it has had zero effect on my sex life and relationships and I don't even think about it unless I'm specifically reminded to. Get the hooker, they know what they are doing, and they are cheaper than normal girls.
>>33688869>woman tells you she likes you>does nothing>she moves on>"why am I like this?"At some point you need to communicate that you actually like her and do something about it. Your cock isn't going to accidentally make its way inside her without you doing something at some point.>>33693774The problem you have is that you're too in your head making excuses and overthinking everything that you do. This problem, which every other virgin has, is that they construct this illusion that sex is some sort of life changing experience. In the process they create barriers that ironically lead to sex becoming even more unobtainable for them.Get laid by whatever means necessary, go make an appointment with that hooker right now. Go book your flight to whatever degen haven is nearby. Get it out of the way and it will shatter the illusion. You will find a whole host of new opportunities in life once this is done and you're officially a sex-haver. Women you no longer be these mythological creatures you put on a pedestal and you'll start thinking about other things in life you want to achieve instead of being purely consumed about sex, which ironically will lead to more sex.
>>33687932Women be real, should I not try to meet women on 4chan, should I not use online dating apps, should I avoid online dating in all forms?
>>33693151No new meta women are broken now, it's completely true. I tried to hopepill zoomers. But I'm back on the hunt after a decade, and it's so, so, so fucking bad. It's insane it's completely ruined the entire game from a decade ago. hoeflation is real, and it's really bad.
my ex has a picture of herself at a coffeeshop where she donated a piece of art she made for them.I met a girl in the same city who is as or maybe even more beautiful than her and is an influencer. Should I go to the same cafe and try for a photo op with her? I'm sure they'd love her, everyone compliments this girl.
>>33695748Mission: Make her jelaous and unblock me.Would it be more effective she she saw us together in public? I've never done this before, never cared this much.
>>33695700What are they all doing??
>>33693774never have sex with prostitutes. you cannot undo that action. you can be forgiven of course but you will always be a man who had sex with prostitutes
Realistically I just want to meet a nice woman who’s also in her late 20s and have a nice quiet 40 years or so together before I kick the bucketI don’t expect her to be a model with a perfect body I just want her to be loyal and not completely let herself goIs this not even achievable for an average man in 2025?
>had an account on bumble, tinder (for a very short time) and hinge>account pretty much the same on all of them>got (and still get) some likes on bumble/tinder>never ever ever get anything on hingewhat's going on here? It's not a problem with low userbase because I live in one of the most populated cities in my country and there's plenty of accounts
>Went on a date with someone I've seen a couple of times before>Turned into a disasterclass at the end>She tended to talk a lot before we met and talks a lot in the lead up to any date>Dry as fuck in between that>Seems more than obvious she's talking to other people>Make an insinuation about something yesterday which would certainly be considered a next step>She's very enthusiastic about it>Back to being dry as fuckWhat's the best way of dealing with this kind of situation?
>>33696066What are your prompts?
>>33695982Yes this is still possible in 2025. Just get hobbies and meet women through that
if u ignore a woman cause lowkey she was mid, and she starts calling u fag under her breath when she thinks u can't hearDid u dodge a bullet/red flag or are they all unable to handle any form of rejection and will all do this shit on some level?