if schizoid personality disorder is incurable what is the argument against killing myself today
The fact it can and does get better, and the fact you are loved.
>>33710342i can't receive love. it doesn't reach my heart. i cannot be loved.
>>33710330Contending mutations may become evolution.
>>33710330Its NEVER over.
>>33710365Why can't you just accept the fact you have a problem and fucking work on it? Why is it that out of all of the personality traits you could replicate from mine you had to acquire the unwarranted pride that is extremely off-putting, harmful to everyone involved especially yourself, and to top that off I don't even have myself anymore? Get a grip.
>>33710405i've been working on it for years. i recently connected the dots that it's likely that i am schizoid. i will be getting diagnosed soon. if this state of being is incurable i would rather give up.
>>33710409What if I told you I also suffer from it and got over it out of spite for the condition and out of forced exposure?
>>33710330People who have schizoid don't have a problem with being schizoid, you sound more BPD or histrionic. Quit self-diagnosing personality disorders.
>>33710330I cured mine and so can you, it’s nine easy
>>33710799>once again conflating what a person says with what a person doesI hate this an unfathomable amount
>>33710330schizoids can deal with the "issues" because they don't think they actually have an issue. You are just not able to deal with depression, stress or whatever comes with it dealing with having to function in society like a neurotypical. So just focus on stress relief and coping with it, don't bother with fixing the personality disorder as it's kinda hard. And most professionals don't really know how to deal with it
>>33710330The fact that you have to be very sure id you want to die. Death is irreversible and 99.99% you wont exist anymore. So do you really wish for that? To never breathe the same lovely air again? At such a young age?
>>33710330>what is the argument against killing myself todaythere isnt one, but we all know youll never do it.
>>33710968>And most professionals don't really know how to deal with itWhich is sad because the treatment is straightforward. The goal is predetermined and process is a simple exercise in challenging a person’s negative self image and their erroneous assumptions about the people around them while encouraging them to trace their anxiety back to its catalyzing event so they can prove to themselves the people around them are actually pretty cool and worth getting to know.
>>33711026>prove to themselves the people around them are actually pretty cool and worth getting to know.Wait is this a schizoid thing? Because I don't really care for other people but I am pretty terrified of their judgement and criticism
>>33711026Most approach it like it social phobia. It easier with social phobia, as you get it from clear past negative experiences and you can overcome it better with exercises in socializing. Now trying the same with SPD you have the issue that you don't experience any joy even from positive social interactions. It's almost like trying to make a gay person straight. But they still experience the negative social interactions of course, and they can enjoy socializing if it's uncomplicated.
>>33711063Not exclusively no, I can’t read your mind and I don’t have a crystal ball to look into your past to see how you react to situations to determine what your actions suggest might be up with you. That’s for you and your therapist/clinical psychologist/psychiatrist to determine.
>>33711063The sensitivity judgment and criticism can be more of an avoidant personality disorder. The whole schizoid diagnose is blurry. Sometimes they just "combined personality disorder" as diagnosis, because it fits multiple criteria.
>>33711071It’s only easy because most psychologists are hacks trying to be as simplistic and reductive as possible. SPD is complex having components of anxiety and panic disorder, major depressive disorder, phobia, and delusions. Your whole post reeks of the exact negative thought pattern an SPD would have>I have never experienced a thing and have no reference point for not this so this is what there is, factIt’s not like being gay, you don’t trick yourself into sucking dick unless you like the idea of slobbing a knob, you can trick yourself into thinking the people around you hate you at a glance so you never socialize so you don’t feel terrible just being out and about.
>>33710330I won't read suicide threads because they are always an attention-seeking waste of time.
>>33711119I don't have SPD, it's just what I read about it and the though patterns. My understanding is the people with SPD don't enjoy the usual socializing, but can enjoy uncomplicated interactions that don't need constant socializing to maintain it, like with family members.>It’s only easy because most psychologists are hacks trying to be as simplistic and reductive as possible. Yeah, most therapists just try to do the same with every patient that and try to push them to do it and it just ends with the patenting blocking and it doesn't go anywhere. And the therapist is basically unable to treat them. I wouldn't know of anyone with SPD that had a successful therapy experience, but then I didn't really research and there's a tendency that people with success don't talk much about it online.>It’s not like being gay,it is in the way that someone tries to tell you to do thing you don't enjoy. It's not that I meant SPD will never like socializing, or born with it. But some parts aren't seen as bad inherently, and convincing them to have a different viewpoint is probably very hard. Unlike with avoidants or social anxiety. I mean most therapists are shit unless you have mild depression and anxiety, or burnout.
>>33711119>SPD is complex having components of anxiety and panic disorder, major depressive disorder, phobia, and delusionsNo. Diagnosed SPD person here. Most Schizoid people do NOT have anxiety and just prefer to be alone. MDD is not a linked factor to Schizoid, and there's absolutely no delusions with SPD otherwise it wouldn't be SPD. Read a fucking wikipedia article before posting stupid BS.
>>33710330>incurableThey have meds for it.As for suicide in general, I used to want to kill myself but things did get better for me later on. You're going to die eventually anyway, might as well procrastinate and see if something interesting happens in life, if nothing good. A lot of things in life are luck-based, as long as you show up to shit instead of just sit around in your flat all day something fortunate WILL eventually happen to you.
>>33712090I did you one better and leafed through the DSM-V
>>33710342Edgelord
>>33710330been struggling with this as a fellow schizoid myselfI'm so isolated I don't even feel human and yet I am incapable of feeling any kind of connection with anyone because i just don't care or begin to understand why they hate me
>>33710330The argument against killing yourself today is that you haven't provided an argument in favor yet.Also at least take Voltaire's advice before you do it. Might end up liking life more than death.https://youtu.be/qOGeTRcfGU4
>>33710330>if schizoid personality disorder is incurableLife is not curable, OP. Requiring water, sleep, food and medicine isn't curable. A cold isn't curable. A flu isn't curable. Every single day we are slowly dying, waiting for the eventual time when our body finally betrays us and shuts down for good. Nothing about the process is curable. Welcome to the humanity club, OP, where literally all we can do everyday is maintain our minds and bodies the best we can while we wait for it all to wither and decay. It sucks that some people have more maintaining to do than others but that's life, bruh. Blind people, sick people, deaf people, people without arms or legs or lungs or kidneys - they get up every day and do their best. Its all anyone can do.
>>33714260>B-B-BUT, I'M SPECIAL, MY SUFFERING IS UNIQUE>t. OP
>>33710365this is a rigid mental framework, if you go to therapy you could work on that and realize you deserve good things, but you have to go to therapy, you idiot, you can be a lot better and find meaning and shit in life. You can be loved, the thing is jsut know you dont know how the fuck to understand that, and you will not understand it in this thread, so: go to fucking therapy
>>33714341nta but therapy for schizoid personality disorder is a meme, the general narrative from clinicians themselves is that a. schizoids don't feel stressed about it like other disorders so it's fineb. it's untreatableThis is just an excuse of course so that they don't have to go through the effort of unpacking the schizoid mind, and you can't even argue with them because even their stupid ass books tell them they are rightone would have to get very, very lucky to find a therapist who even tries to help them as a schizoid, and even luckier for it to work>but we can focus on co occurring disorders instead!doesn't work
>>33710330The argument against is that you aren't schizoid, because an actual schizoid wouldn't want to kill themselves over being schizoid.
>>33717041fake
>>33710330God.>Probably has schizoid personality disorder too
>>33710330This is a stupid argument.If you are going to die 50 years from now from old age, why not kill yourself today?Plenty of people live their lives with illnesses worse than yours.
