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So i live in urban area that it's very, very progressive/liberal. For whatever reason, the average people here consider dating with a age gape of 5+ years younger (especially if you are a man) something terrible. You would be called a sexual predator or even a pdf.
I personally knew some guys who trying to approach some girls and they called the police on them, because apparently they found these men "too old". The police did nothing as nothing of illegal was done, but these men still had their reputation in our town completely ruined, and they are now considered "creeps" by almost everyone. One also got fired for this reason
I find all of this utterlly absurds, especially because these same people praises vile stuff like cutting kid's genitals to make them trans. But somehow a age gape for them is also some kind of mortal sin. But this is where i live, so HOW the fuck i can date who i want without being shamed and ostracized? I personally consider any girl from 18 onwards a fair game, and i especially like to date women 10+ years younger than me
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>>33715813
It's illegal to fuck women below a certain age and people are iffy about being friends with a criminal.
"these men still had their reputation in our town completely ruined, "
For hitting on legal girls? Lol shit that never happened. If it's legal then the hate is niche.
"HOW the fuck i can date who i want without being shamed and ostracized?"
Just be shamed and ostracised and date anyway. What are people gonna do, be mad at you?
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>>33715813
You can't control how other people perceive your behavior.
Either adapt your behavior to their standards, or accept people will have a negative opinion of you.
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>>33715813
>start dating a girl
>turns out she had dated a 35 year old at 19
>this is le good actually

Neck yourself, inb4 17 year 364 day strawman
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>>33715915
Why isn’t 35 and 19 good? They’re adults and you just sound like a jealous zoomer mad that some chad fucked your girlfriend before you could.

In fact, this retard in the OP is probably false flag making another age gap bad thread to demoralize men. Age gaps are fine if everyone is 18+ and consenting no matter what roasties or zoomers say.
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>>33715883
If you are and employer, you can get fired because the place where you work dont want to be associate with your "fame".
If you are self employed, the rumor Will spread and people will try to avoid using your services.
You have no idea how big of a issue dating age gap is where i love

See this retard as a sample >>33715915
Even if its likely just bait, this is unironically how most people i had to interact every day think:
>"But anon, she was in middle school when you was in college!!! This is just wrong, even if shes an adult now. Arent you man enough to handle a woman of your age??"
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>>33715935
>>33715941
So if you hear your partner had dated someone 16 years their senior, you wouldn’t be disgusted? Most 19 year olds are fucking retarded and there is such a gigantic gap in mental maturity, that only someone whose mind is also similarly juvenile would be attracted. It’s not about someone being a baby at some point in time.

Your counter arguments are disingenuous and most incels vehemently defend age gaps because grooming some high school cutter once they complete their “self-improvement” cycle is their only hope of a gf
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>>33715935
Breaking something like but looked down socially is usually worse than breaking a law that is socially unpopular
In fact, you can usually be praised for violating a unpopular law. Never for doing something legal but socially stigmatized
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>>33715949
My former GF's parents had a 15 years and nobody cared because they didnt lived in a liberal hellhole ruled by femminists and other misandrists. Fucks off
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>>33715949
No? If they were consenting who gives a fuck. I’d be more mad she dated a black guy honestly.
>>33715950
I’m gonna assume by your ESL typing you’re from some european shithole and not America. No one actually cares about legal age gaps here outside if social media virtue signalling.
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>>33715967
Indeed. But i live in the center of the biggest and most developed city of my country, where everyone LARP and copy whatever cultural norm is popular in NY and California.
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>>33715973
I literally live in NY and was sexting two 20 year olds like a week ago. I’m 30. No one fucking cares.
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>>33715813
As long as you're not breaking the law who cares what people call you df. I'm 35 and my ex was 18, just turned 19. The cops saw us together once when we got in trouble. Both of our families knew. We were kind of both on the same mental level tho if that makes sense. I act really young for my age people always think I'm like 22 or 23 so no one really cared and we'd laugh at anyone who did. Live your life dude. As long as you aren't braking any laws you don't need permission from anyone, you don't need to explain yourself to anyone. It's really no one else business and if someone doesn't like tuff shit.
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>>33715967
>No?

Most common scenarios for age gaps:
>grooming
>the 20-something who hangs out at high school parties
>the 30-something who hangs out at college parties
>sugar daddies

Enjoy your irreparably damaged goods/former “sugar baby” and thank you for your service in continuing the cycle
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>>33715992
>The 19 year old on a dating site who puts her age preferences up to 30 is being groomed
>Parties are the only place to meet women

Yep, you’re a faggot zoomer who’s gf was taking older cock she probably still thinks about. Kek.
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>>33715998
>the mentally healthy 19 year old whose preference is 30+ men
And yes, parties are where such people meet people much younger than them.
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>>33716006
>You have to be mentally ill to like older men
This is what you have to tell yourself and it’s ok, but I assure you your gf thinks of that guy still. You can seethe all you want but legal age gaps are perfectly fine outside of your own nuerotic worldview.
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>>33716006
>You have to be mentally ill to like older men
Correct, thank you for you concession
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>>33716021
You even argue like a zoomer retard. It’s ok, you lost the argument it’s just us here, talking like a sarcastic redditor won’t unfuck your girlfriend
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>>33715981
LARPERs are usually more estremists than the subjects they copy
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>>33716026
I’ll keep fucking said gf, better than one hand on my cock and the other hand defending age gaps on 4chan
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>>33715949
My stance is that I simply do not care about the stuff you care about because I have no reason to.

>>33715992
>Enjoy your irreparably damaged goods/former “sugar baby” and thank you for your service in continuing the cycle
Thanks, you too

>>33716057
>LARPERs are usually more estremists than the subjects they copy
Can confirm, I'm a LARPer and I don't really care about things.
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>>33716057
No idea what this means but I’m no larping if thats what you’re saying. Legitimately no one cares.
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>>33716081
We’re literally in this thread at the same time, talking about age gaps, kek. If you weren’t seething you wouldn’t even be in here. You probably think of that 35 year old just as much as she does, poor zoom zoom
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>>33716099
35 is old as fuck. Im genuinely sorry for those who are there already. Half of their life is gone so at this point everything can be a cope.
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>>33716092
No. I meant that liberals in my city are more extreme than the liberals in the USA whose ideas and value they copy.
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>>33716117
I never said I was 35 btw, zoomer is now lashing out at made up things
>>33716119
Look at this very thread. The only person mad here is a zoomer who’s gf fucked an older guy. It’s only roasties and zoomers. The lesson is in this very thread.
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>>33716122
So youre not 35 but make memes where you fetishize yourself as a 35 year old dating a girl younger than me. I almost feel sorry for you. Like thats all youll ever have in life.
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>>33716122
Not a zoomer, nor has my girlfriend ever been with some older faggot. You don’t realize how an age gap is significantly worse than dating a black man. You’re out of touch since you haven’t been in a relationship for years minimum, or ever.
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>>33716132
I never made a meme, what? i was responding to your post >>33715915 because my whole point is that the only people who hate older man younger woman age gaps are either zoomers like yourself who realize it shrinks the dating/purity pool, and older women who are jealous.

There is literally nothing wrong with a 35 and a 19 year old dating, you’re just mad at it because your gf willingly chose to do it. She wasn’t groomed, she CHOSE it. And you’re mad. And it’s ok. Zoom zoom.
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>>33716138
>You don’t realize how an age gap is significantly worse than dating a black man.
Now I have an angry black guy yapping at me, oh gee. Coalburning is considered way worse than age gapping, sorry to break it to you Tyrone.
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>>33716138
NTA but I would never date a woman who even so much as kissed a black guy so yeah it’s worse by a significant margin. There’s a reason the “single mother with a black kid” is such a huge meme everywhere.
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>>33715813
4channers have brain rot, date people your own age
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>>33715813
I'm 31 and my gf is 22
Her body and sex are amazing but she's extremely immature, kinda unstable on emotional level and we don't really have anything in common. We take lot of trips in random parts of the country, eat in every restaurants, go to cafe, shit like this, but our passions are in 2 separate worlds: she's mostly watching and doing Tiktok stuff all day while I'm a finance bro
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>>33716170
Nah, zoomer/roastie, I’ll continue to go after prime pussy
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>>33716170
T. Roastie or zoomie "man"
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>>33716174
>she's mostly watching and doing Tiktok
That's what the majority of western normies women do nowadays, regardless of age
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>>33716174
If you think 31 year old woman aren’t doing the exact same thing you’re retarded. Be happy you have someone young.
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>>33716188
>>33716189
I mean she's also extremely stupid
Just right now, she took picture of some of her beauty products with some cash of mine on the side with my credits cards, all numbers visible
I saw it just in time before she transform this shit into a video or whatever and gently told her it's not good, then I deleted the pictures she just took and now she's mad at me
If she wasn't pregnant with my child I would simply fuck off, I'm thinking about it daily already
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>>33716269
You sound like a joyless european freak honestly. Americans don’t have these problems with the way women naturally act (slightly retarded)
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>>33716287
I am indeed european, my girl is not and we're not living in Europe anyway
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>>33715813
I once dated a woman in her 50’s when I was 25. All the guys my age tought it was cool. All the girls my age were pissed off, for no reason.
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>>33715813
My gf is 6 years younger and I live in a liberal area too. Nobody has said anything besides that I look young for my age. I don’t think people actually care unless you look like her dad or scummy
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>>33716409
I'm >>33716174 and >>33716269
I believe you're both stupid and disgusting to date a grandmother while being 25
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>>33715949
>hurr durr mental maturity
why do people always beat around the bush when it comes to this subject, younger girls are more attractive and that's all there is to it lol. why would you pick an old hag over a young cutie if you have the option
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>>33715935
That it's legal doesn't mean it's good.
Age gaps like that either mean daddy issues, or that she's trading sex for resources. Or both.
Either way, there's a big problem.

>>33716174
Case in point, and this isn't even a crazy age gap.
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>>33716138
I would rather a woman fuck dogs in public than date blacks
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>>33715813
None of this happened. This is a psyop bot thread. The same bot has made many threads using the threat of their “employer” firing them for being in a legal age gap relationship. Do not fall for this anons
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>>33718643
>Age gaps like that either mean daddy issues, or that she's trading sex for resources. Or both.
Yes surely in our entire time on this planet with 6 billion people currently alive no one with an age gap ever fell in love traditionally and had good marriages, it’s always grooming or transactional. Expert level zoomer/roastoid advice! (You fucking retard)
>>33718613
Look at the thread, the guy you’re replying to is mad his gf fucked an older guy when she was 19. It’s all mad zoomers and roasties clawing desperately to shrink the dating pool for straight men.
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>>33718685
> in our entire time on this planet with 6 billion people currently alive no one with an age gap ever fell in love traditionally and had good marriages
It's a heuristic, and the fact that you're acting like such a spastic over it only makes me more suspicious. Add "tend to" if you like. The point stands why there's good reason to give pause.
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>>33715813
Fuck you. And fuck the disgustilds that date older guys. Fuck this fucking broken system. I hope your kids turn out retarded because of your old age.
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>>33718790
NTA but it sounds like you wish old people were dead. Do you treat your own parents this way?
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>>33718753
It’s not a hueristic, it’s extreme moral flanderization propogated by older women who are bitter about it and young men who are mad older men have more social value and life comforts. What actually gives pause is infantilizing adult 18+ people while society also praises them for doing onlyfans. If you really want to get granular, any relationship, even same age ones, come with the chance of evil shit happening, especially when the man is some retarded young zoomer or something.

Bottom line point is if you COULD do it, you wouldn’t be rallying against it as a man.
>>33718790
Oh look more of my point being proven
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>>33715813
>the average people here consider dating with a age gape of 5+ years younger (especially if you are a man) something terrible. You would be called a sexual predator or even a pdf.
>I find all of this utterlly absurds, especially because these same people praises vile stuff like cutting kid's genitals to make them trans.

This is terrible bait
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>>33718808
My mom and dad are 1 year apart, and my mom's older. I'm just pissed off at how fucked the dating market is for zoomers. Add to that that I absolutely don't want to date younger and when I see an older guy dating young girls it's just pouring salt on the wound.
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>>33718811
>Oh look more of my point being proven
Doing bad things and then being outraged at the fact that people dislike it is fucking stupid.
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>>33718811
>What actually gives pause is infantilizing adult 18+ people while society also praises them for doing onlyfans.
Brother what the fuck are you talking about
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>>33715992
>>33715949
What exactly is wrong with “grooming” if everyone is over 18? There’s no actual argument against most people don’t even use the word correctly. You as a man get a loyal gf and eventual wife who loves and adores you. How can that be wrong?
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>>33718790
You are a zoomer incel lol. Making it taboo only makes zoomer girls want it more.
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>>33718822
I’m talking about the total lack of ability for people to make up their mind. Onlyfans is often seen as sexually liberating and women are praised for being sex workers, with many starting at 18. But if a man sees an 18 year old as dating material, and she’s consenting, the same man will have retards like you and this guy >>33718817 giving vague blanket statements and saying “it’s a bad thing”. Rule of thumb in life is to just mind your own business and stop seething at what consenting adults choose to do. Yes, some people suck, but people in same age relationships suck at times too.
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>>33718832
It's dysgenic and it takes away women from young men.
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>>33718813
There are many women who don’t date older. Why do you care about the ones that do? It doesn’t add to your competition
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>>33718838
Yeah it’s definitely older men that are bad and not you being an incel
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>>33718836
Because sexual liberation worked so well.
>>33718837
>just mind your own business and stop seething at what consenting adults choose to do
No. That mindset has ruined our society.
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>>33718838
It isn’t “dysgenic” it’s how it was for all of human history. Back then and now young men need to work on themselves so they can get 18 year olds when they’re 28+. You whining about competition makes you unattractive to women
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>>33718855
Your incel behavior is why women seek older normal men. You’re ruining your own society and proving my point.
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>>33718855
>tradcuck joins forces with Leftoids to hate on age gaps
Lol
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>>33715813
I don't care either way, but face it, your complaining and posting is just your way of distracting yourself from the fact that women don't even want to date you to begin with, younger or older.
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>>33718840
Because numbers add up.
>>33718841
I almost assuredly facemog you, I almost definitely am better educated and more skilled than you were at my age, and I definitely have a higher IQ than you. Probably more charisma too.
>>33718856
Give me a fucking break. People are marrying later than ever, that's why it's more dysgenic now than it was then. Don't pretend societal problems aren't real. It betrays the fact that you're out of touch.
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>>33718870
I’m 132 IQ tested, can bench 3 plates, and absolutely facemog you. You’re an incel and any girl you like would pick me (30) over you. You are your own worst enemy and I’m reaping all the benefits.
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>>33718858
Nothing is "normal" about millennials.
>You’re ruining your own society
Oh I'm the one ruining society? Nigger please, your generation is the most degenerate, leftist, and hopeless generation ever.
>>33718859
>tradcuck
Are you gonna keep that energy when you're being cared for by abusive migrants at your nursing home instead of competent youngsters as a consequence of your degenerate actions?
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>>33718837
>I’m talking about the total lack of ability for people to make up their mind. Onlyfans is often seen as sexually liberating and women are praised for being sex workers, with many starting at 18. But if a man sees an 18 year old as dating material, and she’s consenting, the same man will have retards like you and this guy
The issue is I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. I spend all day outside in the real world and I've never heard anybody espouse the things you're talking about. Everything you're talking about is like boilerplate 4chan schizo stuff that I never see or hear about in the outside world.
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>>33718870
>I’m super duper charismatic bro
>Gets no pussy and seethes about it on 4chins
We got a live ine here
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>>33718873
I'm 140 IQ tested
>absolutely facemog you
No fucking shot.
>You’re an incel and any girl you like would pick me (30) over you.
Yeah vapid whores.
>You are your own worst enemy and I’m reaping all the benefits.
Have fun with your low-trust brownified society faggot. Reap the rewards of your individualism, I will smile as you do.
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>>33718876
Ah the old “act like you have no idea what I’m talking about” tactic. Gotcha.
>>33718875
It’s leftists that are rallying against age gaps retard
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>>33718883
>Ah the old “act like you have no idea what I’m talking about” tactic. Gotcha.
Its not a tactic. I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. I don't ever hear anybody anywhere praising teenagers for being a sex worker. It really sounds like you spend most of your time online.
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>>33718881
>N..no I’M superior!!!
Funnt you didn’t mention how much you bench

Look at the way you talk, it’s like woman repellant lmfao. Anyway, I’m gonna go snapchat the 20 year old I’m talking to, enjoy inceldom
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>>33718877
The dating market is fucked because of your generation acting like a bull in a china shop.
>>33718883
>Ackshually you're the leftist!
Says the individualist
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All the men legitimately wondering why younger women like older men look at this autistic freak melting down and therein lies your answer
>>33718888
I live in a major US democratic city, you’d be surprised
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>>33718889
I'm a prettyboy, I mostly do cardio. IQ beats raw strength every time. No amount of muscles can compete with superior military technology. And my IQ is higher. Suck it faggot
>snapchat
Knew she was a vapid whore.
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>>33718896
I’ve never met an actual sexless incel in the wild this is crazy
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>>33718895
>I live in a major US democratic city, you’d be surprised
I don't think I would. I genuinely don't think you spend a lot of time outside. The only people I ever hear talking or saying any of the things you're talking about is online. I'm not saying you've never ever heard anybody talk about how cool it is that 18 year olds are sex workers but that's not a thing that the vast, vast majority of average, regular grass touching people believe. I don't know who you're hanging around but it certainly isn't normies.
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>>33718898
You argue like a woman. Makes sense that some washed up millennial trying to date zoomer whores would have the mental capacity of an onlyfans prostitute.
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>>33718905
Agree to disagree then, idk what to tell you
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>>33718909
You’re melting down and I have a suggestion. Print this thread out and read it in 5 years so you see why you never got any female attention. It exudes off of your posts like bad juju. I can not imagine what women your age must think of you.
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>>33718909
Have you entertained the possibility that your bitterness, vitriol and generally unpleasant attitude makes it difficult for other people to enjoy spending any time with you?
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>You’re melting down and I have a suggestion. Print this thread out and read it in 5 years so you see why you never got any female attention. It exudes off of your posts like bad juju. I can not imagine what women your age must think of you
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>>33718916
It’s genuine advice man to man. Your fatal flaw is your attitude. Also that woman would fuck me over you kek
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>>33718911
>Agree to disagree then
I mean, we could, but I have sex with women. I have a large social circle and run a business where I speak to a large number of people every day. You do none of those things. Which one of us do you think is a more reliable reporter of general societal attitudes? Like honestly, do you have lots of friends in the city you hang out with? Do you go to events? Concerts, restaurants, festivals? I'm generally asking what real life, grass touching experience are you drawing from to say that the majority of people think its great that 18 year olds are doing onlyfans?
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>
Have you entertained the possibility that your bitterness, vitriol and generally unpleasant attitude makes it difficult for other people to enjoy spending any time with you?
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>It’s genuine advice man to man. Your fatal flaw is your attitude. Also that woman would fuck me over you kek
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>>33718921
>>33718916
You came here for advice because you're an incel with no friends and now you're just actively making fun of people trying to break through to you. Do you feel good right now, anon? Like you're living a genuine life that you're happy about? Are you satisfied with your attitude and outlook on life? Its like we're watching you shoot yourself in the foot and blame the world for it. Its really sad, actually.
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You have to follow the rules of your community as decided by popular opinion.
It's like you're asking why you're being shamed for not going to church or something
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>>33718919
>You do none of those things.
Says the person on 4chan in an age gap thread? What logic is this? Setting aside the ad hominem (I literally mog you in every aspect of life including women), look at Bhad Bhabie. When she mad her onlyfans she made 1 million overnight. It was a big buzz, lots of women were talking about it. She’s the cash me outside girl. Your utter bewilderment leads me to believe you’re playing retarded because your point was dismantled so you have to appeal to some kind of weird passive aggressive possing contest you’d surely lose if we compared lives irl.
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>>33718921
>>33718925
>I lose the argument and have nothing to say so my dick will remain dry and I will seethe to the heavens until I man up and take control of my life
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>>33715813
>HOW the fuck can I date who I want without being shamed or ostracized.
I wouldn't volunteer the information. Interestingly enough, I've found that the stigma disappears once you put a ring on one. People will gleefully joke about you tossing out the old model when you're not around. The dating and fucking are what look bad. You're just wasting her youth and taking advantage of her in their myopic estimations.

Wanting one person to change their mind is hard enough. You're not going to change a collective idea on your own. Your options are to just keep it close or make more friends than the enemies it makes you.
In the end it's an individual's own envy and insecurity coming into play. You don't tell them "hey I'm LITERALLY lavishing the absolute most prime pussy on my atomic turtle right now." Just like you wouldn't tell them you just got an inheritance.
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>You came here for advice because you're an incel with no friends and now you're just actively making fun of people trying to break through to you. Do you feel good right now, anon? Like you're living a genuine life that you're happy about? Are you satisfied with your attitude and outlook on life? Its like we're watching you shoot yourself in the foot and blame the world for it. Its really sad, actually.
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>>33718933
>When she mad her onlyfans she made 1 million overnight. It was a big buzz, lots of women were talking about it. She’s the cash me outside girl.
You're talking about the internet again, anon, not real life.

> Your utter bewilderment leads me to believe you’re playing retarded because your point was dismantled so you have to appeal to some kind of weird passive aggressive possing contest you’d surely lose if we compared lives irl.
Enjoy being alone, anon. You're such an asshole that it makes people actively not want to have anything to do with you. Keep suffering if you want, man. Its your deal.
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>>33718935
Dude literally all of your arguments are indistinguishable from those that some 35yo single libtarded feminist would make. I want you to take a step back and realize that.
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>>33718941
People were talking about it in real life you fucking retard. I’ve had women talk about making only feet or whatever that site is at parties directly in front of me. The “I’ve never seen it so it doesn’t happen” says more about you being socially retarded.
>Enjoy being alone, anon. You're such an asshole that it makes people actively not want to have anything to do with you. Keep suffering if you want, man. Its your deal.
You started flinging shit and I replied in kind. If you were nicer, maybe you wouldn’t need to be spoken down to.
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>>33718943
My argument is that the only people mad are zoomer men and old roasties. You proved my point half an hour ago.
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>>33718929
>you have to do the same thing everyone does
how very collectivist.
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>>33718950
Meanwhile you argue exactly like an old roastie. Zoomer men are the only people with spines left in this fucking country. Your generation will be a footnote in history, we will change it.
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>>33718954
I’m sure you will incelanon. Your charming with and personality will surely attract the women you want (who I’ll be fucking first)
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>>33718936
people need to mind their fucking business if they know what's good for them. Fuckers only think with their genitals.
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>>33718958
You have no ability to see the big picture. You still think anger is "le unattractive". NGMI. Your whole generation is fucked. Keep hooking up with zoomer whores please, it'll distract you while we tear this country down and build it back up again.
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>>33718965
It is unattractive, considering you get no pussy. Women must think you’re a fucking freak irl.
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>>33718870
> People are marrying later than ever, that's why it's more dysgenic now than it was then.
Men for most of history married late 20s to 30s and married late teens/early 20/ women. That is normal and traditional
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>>33718870
> I almost assuredly facemog you, I almost definitely am better educated and more skilled than you were at my age, and I definitely have a higher IQ than you. Probably more charisma too.
Then why are you an incel crying about older men taking women your age?
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>>33718968
Arguing like a libtarded woman yet again. Maybe I've no interest in casual sex and I don't "get pussy" because the dating market is rigged against young people who want to get into LTRs?
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>>33718965
>build it back better
Yup you’re a Biden voter
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>>33718970
Something being "traditional" doesn't make it good. I'm not a tradcuck. I'm not a conservative. I'm a progressive. And I'm right wing.
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>>33718976
Oh sure you “have no interest” yet you’re raging at older men fucking the women you like. Kek.
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>>33718977
I was underage during the Biden election genius. And no, I'm not a fucking Democrat. Myopic boomers will never be able to conceive of politics beyond the two-party system.
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>>33718978
You forgot to add retarded to that
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>>33718978
If something is natural and done by most people through all of history except the last several years then yes it is good and normal
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>>33718974
Because this country is fucking falling apart and somebody's gotta do something about it.
>>33718979
>older guys fuck zoomer whores
>there's more competition for the zoomer women that aren't whores
Is it impossible for you to grasp second-order consequences or something?
>>33718983
No argument. Just impotent seething. Keep hooking up with whores, I'm sure it'll reverse the RAPING of your nation.
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>>33715813
It’s funny how when you press zoomers they eventually reveal their seething for age gaps is because they blame being an incel on it
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>>33718989
The country isn’t falling apart because of an age gaps. It’s entirely economic reasons
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>>33718989
>Every woman that fucks an older man is a whore
This is incel logic and no normal person believes this, you’re mad at yourself deep down
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>>33718989
the country's not falling apart because some older guy wants to date someone younger..
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>>33718986
For most of history we had primitive sanitation and short lifespans. Things are good independent of whether they're traditional or not. Appeal to tradition is a fallacy for a reason.
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>>33718997
We've had a more stable society when women were NOT considered equal to men a century ago, anon.
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>>33718992
NGMI
>>33718994
Mad at myself for what exactly? I did everything right, I have a high IQ, I'm charismatic, I'm physically attractive, I went to college, and I'm still an incel just because I don't have low standards. Tell me who's (individual) fault it is that the birthrate is collapsing, most people are single and unhappy, and the economy is getting ripped apart? Sometimes things just fucking suck, and it's actually people's fault. Names and addresses.
>>33718995
>the country's not falling just because some gay people want to get married
>the country's not falling just because black people ride white buses now
>the country's not falling just because the birthrate is low
>the country's not falling just because a non-white family moved in next door
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>>33719007
Ok, so we've established you dislike old people, gays, black people, and others. I see. Do you blame anyone else for your personal problems?
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>>33718999
In some sense yes, but in another sense you couldn't be more wrong. The "traditional" view of forced monogamy with no fornication actually equalizes men and women. When we set them free to act differently societal collapse ensues. This is the cause for collapse, not the fact that women can work jobs now.
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>>33719012
This is what progressive argumentation has fallen to. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps". Pathetic.
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>>33719007
>Everyone’s at fault but me
6 billion people on the planet but a guy who “does everything right” can’t find a good woman kek. Yeah it’s DEFINITELY NOT YOU, the sperg raging in a 4chan thread, it’s the older men!
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>>33719022
I'm just saying, man. You seem very hateful of other people who are trying to just live and be left alone. Trying to police their actions and all.
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>>33719032
>>33718976
Are the 40% of people that lost out in that graph just personally at fault? Is it a moral deficiency of them? Even if I find a 10/10 virgin Norwegian 140 IQ right wing girl tomorrow none of what I said here will change. Leftists love to attack statements about societal problems with ad hominem attacks. Pray tell, did you find your wife at 21?
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>>33719036
Yes.
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>>33719041
When I was 21 I wasn’t raging in 4chan threads over being denied pussy by some unseen entity I conjured up because I couldn’t look inward. Posting graphs and bragging about yourself when most people here are laughing at you should be some kind of life lesson for you
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>>33719055
Not a single argument. Just impotent ad hominems. I cut my teeth on 4chan, that's why I'm a good debater IRL. You've totally capitulated, you aren't even arguing substance anymore because you know you can't win. Because I am correct. I'm 21 and I'm already closer to the truth than all of you millennifags.
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>>33719066
The truth is in front of your face. You covering your ears and eyes and saying NUH UH I’M RIGHT when people are arguing against your incel bullshit just proves a deepseated inmaturity women sniff on you. There are millions of women around you and you can’t find ONE; the answer lies sonewhere within that dilemma.
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>>33719079
2015 millennial libtard feminist rhetoric. All of it.
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>>33719092
My final retort to this is you’re an incel and I hope you get better some day
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>>33719100
>you're an incel
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>>33715813
move from that place
my last serious relationship had a 14 year gap
the current one has a 20 year gap
I wouldn't change it for the world, even if earned a lot of money I would run THE FUCK out of a place where I can't do this.
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>>33718997
Age gaps were completely normalized even back 10 years ago. The last few years are an anomaly and not organic. You have fallen for a psyop meant to lower fertility rates in first world countries
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>>33719153
You and this person share the same morality and reasons for being anti-age gap
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So anons, be honest.
How big of a factor purity plays for you?
>a-anon-kun please be gentle, it's my first time
I don't think there is a single healthy guy who wouldn't drag his dick through a mile of broken glass to hear these words from a 18-20ish yo doll

After all, why would so many anons here fixate on a very specific age range when discussing age gap relationships? There is plenty of beautiful, young looking women in their mid to late 20s especially if they take care of themselves and they still can have that adventorous spirit that youth is associated with
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>>33719284
in all honesty it doesnt matter that much how old someone is if you connect with them, but young women are attractive to me no matter what.
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>>33719284
>There is plenty of beautiful, young looking women in their mid to late 20s especially if they take care of themselves
well if its just simple math, a 25 year old has 5-10 years left of being hot. an 18 year old has 17ish years left of being hot
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>>33718672
Yes. Bit bot i am a bot.
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I want to date a woman who’s 30+ but I don’t know where to find someone who would be interested in me. I think they are extremely beautiful, more than a woman my age (20) yet I can’t find anyone which is making me sad
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>>33715813
>a age gape of 5+ years younger (especially if you are a man) something terrible
You are American, I take it.
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>>33718832
https://youtube.com/shorts/gMqhspSkkGA?si=VJbYVzPuj4ybSJjV
You’re right, age gap relationships don’t necessarily involve grooming a la Epstein, but basically the dynamic is this
>older man has stunted maturity/cumbrain
>gets some young girl
>knows she is out of his league by virtue of being in her prime and having 50000 options
>must engage in manipulative or abusive behavior in order to keep her

Or
>the girl is retarded, so is the guy
Or
>the guy only cares about sex and not a partner
Which is fine but morally reprehensible, as it involves a woman with daddy, abandonment, or self-esteem issues and someone else willing to predate on that
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>>33719945
>Coming to a “definitive conclusion” and speaking like an authority with some retarded youtube short as proof
>Ignoring multiple generations of millions of normal people having great relationships and families despite age gaps
Yeah you fucking retard I’m sure half of our grandfathers groomed our grandmothers. The guy in that youtube clip is so ugly he’d never have the opportunity to do it, hence him virtue signalling and lashing out about it to appeal to (ironically) younger women. I’m so thankful I grew up not taking youtube clips as gospel, zoomer men truly are pathetic and sexless.
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>>33719945
Here’s an alternative scenario:
>Woman likes man
>Man likes woman
>They get together
Simple premise really. The guy in that video would fold immediately if an 18 year old was pursuing him, you know that right?
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>>33715949
Women peak younger than man. A woman at 20 years old is already accomplished in what 20 thousand years of evolution told her to do: procreate, love a socially reputable, handsome, providing older man.
Men need to prioritize other things and have the ''settle down status'' later in their life. Due to capitalism men are becoming reliant, stable, caring men way older by each generation, but that doesn't mean that women still don't peak at 20-25 yo.
Its perfectly understandable from a social, psychological, economic, evolutionary point of view that a 35 yo man marries and has children with a 20 years old women.
The other way around is improductive, is a form of distortion of modern hyper sexualization of society.
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>>33720036
None of you have sex, you believe considering someone’s feelings is retarded faggot shit, and you’re out of touch.
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>>33720061
>He says as he ignores womens feelings
You’re literally ignoring the feelings of women to speak for them like that ugly faggot in the video. Who are you to say what age gaps are DEFINITIVELY? Millions of people thrive in them, you have no authority over what other adults do.

I had a 20 year old that was down to drive 2 states over so I could fuck her. Maybe I should have told her some guy on 4chan doesn’t approve? I wonder what her reaction would have been.
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>>33715813
Your forgot to wait until your last thread got pruned retard
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>>33715813
what kind of hellhole is this?
here no one gives a fuck.
t. middle-aged frenchman with a passion for fresh(legal) pussy
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>>33720144
Check the filenames idiot
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>>33720161
>I changed the filename, that'll fool em!
Cringe, you make this this thread every week, you could have wasted all that time in getting some actual young tail.
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>>33715813
How old were the guys? You're leaving out some valuable info here. And just for the record, the guys themselves were probably ugly and were just not charismatic at all, because I live in a blue city and know guys who are in their 30s who fuck women in the late teens/early 20s range and the only people who get mad at them are jealous little boys.
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>>33720061
I have plenty actually and have a stable relationship with a traditional woman with traditional values. But thanks for clarifying the looser you are by projecting your insecurities.
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>>33715813
Just got myself an 18 years old who says she's into older men

"Older men"
>I'm 29
But now that we've copulated all I can say is that the pussy was indeed tight
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Why the hell is a 35 f portrayed as a granny? Any 35 f has more sex than you incels will ever have lol
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hell yeah! i hope your life gets ruined by girls calling the cops you you soon :) and then i would advise you to kill yourself
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>>33720363
I wish 4chan had a possibility to anonymously send a cup of coffee to a stranger. You go, anon!
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>>33720356
35 yo women are ok. from behind. if they take good care of themselves, and have that fit ass.
18 yo women have the best bodies. there's simply no comparison. especially those perky tits damn.
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>>33719945
you sound brainwashed and can't think outside the box. using that youtube short, which is just propaganda shows us that. if the guy marries her and they have a happy family nothing wrong with it.
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>>33720061
you lost the argument when you're rebuttal is insulting people
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>>33720363
>>33720365
call the cops for what? Two adults dating?
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>>33715813
mouse utopia
these people are literally insane
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>>33720152
The U.S. is a cultural wasteland where most of the population are rage addicts with fantasies of violence looking for every single controversy imaginable to get pissed off about and fantasize about killing everyone who disagrees with their opinion. You go almost anywhere in the world and you realize how neurotic and deranged Americans are on average. The whole age gap thing is just another "what color is the dress?!" tribalist hot button topic, mostly prompted by social media, that everyone feels they need to take some impotent stand on.
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>>33720356
yeah that's exactly why 35 year old women are unattractive



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