how is it possible for a 24 year old to not have sex or get a girlfriend? seriously you people make this out to be the easiest thing yet it’s been the greatest challenge of my life even more than making money. I go out with many women and nothing happens I have a social life. Is having sex genetic determinism? What the hell am I doing wrong if people are shocked about this because if so easy peezy?
>>33716780Hate to break it to ya’, you’re ugly
>>33716780>I go out with many women and nothing happensOk, so elaborate. Why not?The issue most of the incels and virgins on this site seem to have is they're shut-ins who never talk to or spend time with women. They never even get to the point you're apparently at.So something else is going on here with you. The advice we give them won't necessarily apply to you.
>>33716785Actually I’ve been with a few women and they all liked the way I looked they said they’re my type and I’ve made it to 2-3 dates with them. I’ve done some film work also because they said I have a good look. You just have to take my fucking word for it. I swear on my life. This is why I find it so confusing and frustrating..
>>33716792Well I don’t know either. Surely it can’t be bad luck right? It’s gotten to the point where I’m subscribing to ideologies like genetic determinism because there’s no way this is pre determined
>>33716792They become shut-ins because they had negative social experiences with women (or other men) when they were growing up. People rarely become shut-ins just cuz
>>33716795You're either lying, or the girls were just lying to you, sorry. All those anons who never leave their house have better than you, because when the stars align and they go outside they actually have sex, but for you, not even that does it.
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>>33716831I’m not lying to you. And why would multiple girls lie in a row and waste their time with dates with me if that were the case? That just sounds like conspiracy.
>>33716850Also I DID NOT PAY FOR THEIR DINNERS. We split or she payed it fully sometimes. Yes this is how fucked up the situation is
>>33716803>It’s gotten to the point where I’m subscribing to ideologies like genetic determinismAnd yet in the post right above this you tell that other anon that women like the way you look, so your beliefs are not even internally consistent.You're obviously doing something when you're with these women to drop the ball and kill their interest. The fact you don't even consider this possibility and go right to copes like "le genetic determinism" is very telling.It's also very possible you just consistently attract and/or are attracted to the wrong women and you end up in situations that are destined to never work. Even if so, that still goes back to something you're doing wrong somewhere which puts us back on square one.>Surely it can’t be bad luck right?It's actually very possible. You're on a classic cold streak. We've all been there. Still, as someone who has been on both sides of that I'll tell you we very often make our own luck in life, for better or worse. Which is not always obvious at the time, but with hindsight it will be.
>>33716804>have something bad to me>handle it extremely poorly>welp, guess this now absolves me of all blame!You'd like for life to work this way, but believe me it does not.
>>33716850>And why would multiple girls lie in a row and waste their time with dates with me if that were the case?Well that's the point of dates...to go out with someone and see if you like each other and if there's anything there.If you get a date or two with someone and then nothing after that, what is that telling you?
>>33716870>You're obviously doing something when you're with these women to drop the ball and kill their interest.That’s probably the real reason but I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong.
>>33716886Well yeah, that's why I asked you to describe what happens on these dates OP. But you're not giving us a lot to work with.
you don’t deserve sex or a gf. You are most likely very autistic or not very pleasant to be around. Or you are finding women who are not that attracted to you. Or you don’t know how to make moves. You go on dates and talk to women but don’t know how to escalate it. Women have the ick with you
>>33716893The dates go average nothing extremely awkward or horrible happens but is focusing too much on the girl my issue? Like planning dates on text I usually text her which shows a lot of interest = desperation to her? I think perhaps that’s the reason because on the date it goes okay I don’t insult her or act crazy it’s like a normal conversation
>>33716862>payedPAID you fucking thirdie
>>33716910Well of course you text when you're setting up a date, there's nothing strange or "desperate" about that.I bet anything that this anon >>33716908 has it 100% correct. You're boring and/or don't escalate, don't flirt, don't make the girl feel anything.
>>33717047How do I fix my autism
>>33716780It is easy. Horses are literally free. You just gotta feed them and care for them, then eventaully they'll...
>>33716780Why are the majority of posts here just sad virgins and incel pilled morons being like "wHy mE nO hAvE gF"?A lot of you claim to self reflect and be self aware, but I'm more inclined to think most of you just sugar coat everything to soften the blow about your own degeneracy, desperation, and shit personalities.
>>33716785Engineer, you're so mean.
>>33718960Guide me to a pot of gold?
>>33717233Oh, so you're saying I was right?First off, you're not "autistic". You don't have a disorder. You can fix yourself with practice.But it's interesting how fast you pivoted to it being something you're doing wrong after all, after being pretty dead set on "genetic determinism" (despite also claiming to look good) at the start of the thread.
>>33716780Maybe you are way too superficial or an ass. Those girls went out with you. But didn't want to have anthing with you, in the end. You must do something pretty disgusting during conversations imho. Probably way too horny or fixated on their bodies.
>>33716831It’s not all about looks. You could look like a chad and if you’re too shy or spaz out no one’s going to be interested.
>>33720331Because I don’t know myself I’m willing to accept anything at this point bcuz obviously I don’t know
>>33716780I make the equivalent of 11.27 usd per hour working part time live at parents home don't have freinds and don't even have a car yet. All it took for me was getting on tinder and within one month a chubby Asian girl became my girlfriend and had sex with me first time we met despite me practically being a virgin at the time.It really isn't hard so long as you're 6 feet have a decent face and aren't socially autistic/anxious bro.My penis didn't even work all that well really for the first month or two of our relationship and she still stuck around.
>>33720413>Because I don’t know myselfOk, well no offense you sound pretty screwed up man. And I'd say not having a gf is the least of your problems then.I'm not saying this to make fun, I'm saying this because I was in much the same headspace when I was younger and I know the signs. Honestly I think you'd be better off to stop worrying about a gf and take some time to discover and work on yourself. You do that successfully and then things will start to fall into place. Trust me.
>>33720449>so long as you're 6 feetYeah I'm 5'10 so might as well see what a shotgun tastes like
>>33720449Do you think I’m getting assfucked by bad luck? I mean if you talked to me in real life I’m not the perfect conversationalist, I have my awkward moments and I’m not 6 foot I’m 5’10 but if you talked to me in real life I’m just a normal guy who’s apparently good looking because everyone fucking says so. I want an Asian too
>>33720331He could be doing something wrong because of genetic determinism.Genetic determinism != lookism. Even most incels don't get this. Also it doesn't mean that it's unfixable, but still it's clear that he's got it harder than others.
>>33716804>>33716874This, and it's never a traumatic experience that would justify turning into shut-in and/or angry incel.It's some shit like the hottest prettiest most popular girl in class that they were secretly in "love" with (that they know nothing about, they just feel that pretty = good) started dating an equally attractive and popular guy in 7th grade.>It's over>owari da>It's so overand then they discover 4chan and see all the cool jpegs of graphs and epic greentext screen shots that in their mind justifies them never talking to women ever again.>chad fucks all the women>my jaw's not big enough>roasties>cell phones bad>we live in a society>I don't make enough money as a 15 year old>sex bad>I would've been a cool chad if I was born in the 80s>I need to be 7 feet tall and have an 8 pack and make 100 million a year before settling for A USED ROASTIE SLUT>etcanyways>>33716780>I go out with many women and nothing happenswhat do you mean nothing happens, obviously it's the girls that are pulling the plug on dating any further, but what are they telling you? How do your dates usually go?
>>33720758>He could be doing something wrong because of genetic determinism.Yeah no.>no no you see it's my GENETICS that make me say the cringiest possible thing in each conversation.No it's not, I don't believe that for a second. And let's be honest here, neither really do you.
>>33721018IM THE ORIGINAL POSTER DATE GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS:(Usually restaurant) meet up, hug maybe , talk about shit not quiet or awkward or boring.., do not kiss or anything and text her afterwards and then schedule a following date perhaps the following week. Works 90% of the time bcuz obviously I’m not acting like some autistic lunatic throwing feces at the waiter. But then the second date I escalate and kiss her and it goes okay and then the third date? ghosted afterwards. Something is rotten in the Denmark and I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, I asked my dad and he said I’m being too desperate over text and trying to impress her. Maybe?
>>33721421>I asked my dad and he said I’m being too desperate over text and trying to impress her. Maybe?He might be right OP. First of all you should never "try" to impress a woman, either you do just with your presence or you don't, but you should never have to force it.And secondly, unless you've sealed the deal already then yeah you shouldn't be just texting randomly and shooting the breeze. Text her to set the date up and then do most of your talking in person.It doesn't sound like you do anything wrong on the dates from your (possibly biased, albeit) description...except I'd say don't be afraid to go for the kiss sometimes on the first date, but that's case by case and girl by girl. You'll have to read the room a little bit on that one.So yeah, I'm inclined to agree with your dad based on what you told us. Which again, is a far cry from the "genetic determinism" you wanted the thread to be about in the beginning.
>>33721421You go on dates so you're not ugly, and you get follow up dates so you're not terribly autistic. Your dad is probably correct. Depending on how you go for the kiss can come off as desperate. Rather just flirt and have her make it obvious she wants kissed, like wait until it's too obvious because seems like you're not picking up their signals and just going in. Btw, how are you finding these girls? Apps?
>>33721421based chad dadyou're probably double texting or triple-texting, or maybe even love dumping all over her by the third date
>>33720293No. You can fuck them.
>>33716780You smell bad. I can smell you thru the internet. Shower right before you go out and wear deodorant and cologne
>>33720449>6 feet have a decent face and aren't socially autistic/anxious browell 6ft alone just disqualifies roughly 85% of men so if thats your criteria that by definition makes it hard
>>33718960>>/mlp/Also horses are NOT free unless they're broncos
>>33716780You're not ugly! You just stink!
>>33716780romance is a scam made to lower birthrateseveryone just waddles in filth chasing an ideal scenario that never happensarranged marriages are by no means perfect, but they're on average better than the average drama most normalfags go trough
>>33723327>6ft alone just disqualifies roughly 85% of menlmaoing @ amerimidgets
>>33716780idk, I used to be fat and got 0 female attention. then I lost weight and started getting a bit of attention. but it went nowhere because I still had fundamental personality issues I needed to fix. That, and most of the women that want me genuinely aren’t worth dating.
>>33726972Found the indian
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