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Should I start cold approaching the girls that smile at me? In this video the girl is complaining that the guys she smiles at don't approach her. Is a smile a green light to initiate conversation?
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I'm here to learn too because I thought the smile was just politeness. How do I differentiate between "smiling because nice" from "smiling because interested?"
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Yes this is new, if she looks at you and smiles you may approach.
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>>33717720
You're just supposed to read her mind incel.
But don't you dare read it wrong or you'll be a sex offender.
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>>33717720
You can say hi, hows it going, etc. Conversations only get annoying when you're obligated to talk to a stranger.

If she smiles at you, try a brief greeting. Something open ended. If she engages then carry on, if she gives you something noncomittal then stop.
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>>33717703
I'm wondering the same thing >>33717771
Lol
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>>33717703
First, you shouldn't listen to women on how to get women in general. Their brains aren't wired to prioritize truth or reality. They are wired to perceive instantaneous state and your job as a man if you want to fuck them is to continuously generate "fun" instantaneous states for them. Girls just want to have fun as the song goes. That's all that drives them. That's 99% of their value system. OP, you should cold approach people in general because it's the best way to learn.

Eventually you'll get an intuition for women and realize the truth of what I've stated and you'll feel like you have superpowers because 1) you'll lay down all of your baggage and expectations of what you think women should be and it will actually make the process feel lighter 2) your success with them will go up drastically. The only downside to this is that a lot of guys end up misogynistic because their idealized version of women and their expectations shatter.

Approach and learn.
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>>33717703
That woman is so attractive but has BPD eyes
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>>33717771
i can read some of their minds
it is really funny sometimes what they think
especially/easier when their thoughts are loaded with emotions
women are so damn horny and pathetic its insane
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Women will give a you greenlight if she really wants you to be approach them
Sometimes its something as subtle as lifting her eyebrows
If she sees you as high value or really desires you then she will cold approach you
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>>33718731
So it's over for me unless i'm in the top 0.1% of males women will cold approach (i'm clearly not)
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>>33718731
ah yes.. the "this is how I flirt" and its just them staring at you
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>>33718731
>Sometimes its something as subtle as lifting her eyebrows
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This happened to me a lot in my early 20s. Random girls would smile at me and stand near me. I realized that they were into me when this stopped happening to me after I got uglier with age. All those missed opportunities. Like tears in the rain. Take it from an unc. Seize the opportunity now before it's too late.
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>>33717720
>be in a group project with girl
>we really hit it off, talk about a bunch of stuff we’re interested in
>next day, when we’re suppose to present, shes acting shy around me, asks me how I’m doing, stands close to me during the presentation.
>think these are all good signs
>text her if she wants to go out on the weekend (got her number for the project)
>leaves me on read
>ignores and avoids me during class
Genuinely one of the weirdest experiences I’ve had with a girl snd made me question if any girl has ever actually liked me
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>>33718731
A girl in one of my classes walked by me at campus and waved and smiled at me. I never talk to her at class, should I ask her out?
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>>33719827
>shes acting shy around me, asks me how I’m doing, stands close to me during the presentation.
noob here but i dont think those are strong enough signs
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>>33719831
Then what the fuck are strong signs? A girl randomly starting a conversation asking about how you’re doing and wanting to stand really close to you, as well as a previous conversation where both of you are enjoying yourself a lot mean nothing as signs, but a random smile does?
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>>33717703
>Should I start cold approaching the girls that smile at me
you can, but giving women free attention is a dangerous game
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>>33719827
it happens dude. keep doing what you are doing and this memory will be a drop in the pond. you won't even remember that girl's name after you find a girl who says yes, if you remember her name even now.
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>>33719847
Yeh I’ve basically forgotten about it, it’s just frustrating since theres times where I think a girl had zero interest in me, and one day her friend comes up to me and asks me why I didn’t ask her out despite the “signs”
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>>33717703
I go to the store two or three times a week at various hours and rarely see any women my age or younger.
I guess it is a store that is a few dollars more expensive than Walmart.
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>>33717703
I finally approached a girl, but she is in my class and seemed to remember me when we did introductions. There is another student with my first name, she just happened to talk to him right before I talked to her.
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I just wish I knew the rules if engagement with flirting now because it feels like I can't say ANYTHING that's been said before.

Like how on earth am I gonna say something remotely novel AND charming on the fly when she's read so much smut that those pesky book boyfriends already used most the game already. How can even a handsome man compete without being filtered as fuckboy?
Like I flirt like a fuckboy but I'm not a fuckboy but nobody believes me
I genuinely feel like I'm on an episode of the twilight zone. I am starting to believe that my best may simply not be good enough
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>>33719910
*and the entire internet/digital world not just smut, obviously women are exposed to far more than just those books in which the standards are referred to.
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>>33717703
>Is a smile a green light to initiate conversation?
Yes. Read Regency and Victorian etiquette. It is age old wisdom on how to navigate low trust society dating. Women must smile at a guy for him to initiate, but if she does smile this means you may speak with her (as either she is interested in you and you two may court, or she isn't but is a lady of good character and you won't have your reputation ruined by cruel accusations).

For historical reference: the Regency era came about after the late 1700s massive social decay in England (brothels on every corner, animal blood sports gambling, public intoxication, constant crime, and flirtations with Catholic and atheist revolts against the Protestant crown). So again it was a response to social decay and loss of basic trust.
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>>33719923
Ok, I’ll keep this in mind
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>>33717872
>to continuously generate "fun" instantaneous states for them
How can someone do that? I can't even do that for myself.
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>>33719938
The flirtations with Catholic and atheist revolts against the Protestant crown?
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>>33717703
As a girl, I can tell you that it's not about the smile. I may not smile at a guy, but if he starts talking to me confidently, without hesitation, he will definitely spark my interest. Many people here think that you have to look like a CHAD to communicate, but it's enough to wear normal clothes and be clean. Be brave. We like that.
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>>33719838
she's just anxious about the presentation
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>>33718731
>lifting her eyebrows
How am I supposed to learn that?
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>>33720312
When I say chad I mean the chad attitude. You are asking for chad while we here are lil insecure bitchasses
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>>33717720
A polite smile is like a quick flash. If she's into you then she'll smile a bit longer and keep eye contact.
If you really want to know then try to strike up a quick convo. If she's enthusiastic to engage then you know you're good, but if she doesn't respond or is trying to end it quickly then you know she was just being polite.
All of that takes some medium level socialization skills.
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>>33720307
Haha you’re so funny
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>>33720373
I said shy around me, she was fine in the presentation.
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>>33720302
It's like most things: You practice and at first you might even annoy yourself trying to make yourself more fun. A lot of it comes from your state of mind. It's your tendency towards spontaneity and novelty. "I'm going on a road trip!" "I'm trying this new restaurant!" That sort of thing. The more you feed it, the more you'll find yourself becoming that guy.

It's your prioritization of experiences/values, especially in social interaction. "Oh this person is talking about politics in a heated or just nonconstructive way...no thanks!" "Oh this person doesn't make me feel good...see ya!" This is also a form of decisiveness that makes you more attractive. What are you saying "yes" or "no" to?

You eventually hit a really powerful way of being where you'll have situations where you interact with a girl who seems sort of bitchy, but you naturally treat her like she's weird for being that way. It's not part of a routine or to be a dick, but because it's just who you are that it causes her to actually become more receptive to your frame.

Your enthusiasm for your own existence can be contagious when it's authentic and justified and most girls will try to match your energy if that's the case. When they fail to in a way that raises an eyebrow, your instinctive reaction (emphasis on unrehearsed, uncalculated, etc.) should be "she's weird" not "I'm weird." At that point, if you haven't made it, you're damn close.
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>>33720438
What age did you start transitioning?
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>>33717720
Old ladies smile at me all the time guys. What do I do? Should I ask her if she’s down to fuck?
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>>33721098
Don't pretend you have a chad personality. If you did you wouldn't be in boards.4chan.org/adv/
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>>33717703
>cold approaching the girls that smile at me

Approaching a girl who is similing at you is considered a warm approach, as you are clearly invited.So by all means, do.

Cold approach means chatting up women who are completely ignoring you. Extra cringe points to guys who run after random chicks on the street.
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>>33720398
You're not you stupid fuckhead, he's lying to you
Oh my God
Why are you all so gullible
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>>33721159
do girls usually smile at you first or are you the one that’s supposed at her first? Sometimes I lock eyes with a girl but I’ve had a resting bitch face my whole life and can’t smile properly, I always have force my self to smile and I assume it ends up looking unnatural
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>>33721212
Not all girls are the same, some will just stare and break eye contact with you if you look back, some will give a simple toothless smile, and a small amount might give a full on grin. It almost doesnt matter how she shows it, but if yyou Detect any remote kind of interest its a green flag to at least say hi (without any expectation of getting her number)
Nice get btw
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>>33717703
cold approach is stupid normie shit, trying to start relationships base don looks and looks alone (which is what cold approaching is) always ends in disaster.

If you have just the smallest of almost-bullshit reasons to talk to a girl like she's reading a book you know about or she's wearing a t-shirt hoodie of a band or movie you know, then it stops being cold approach.

Also the setting, smiling at strangers and sparking up conversations and approaching them based entirely on looks and dancing with them is more than okay at a bar or club. It's cringe when you try to do that on a train.

>>33717872
>First, you shouldn't listen to women on how to get women in general. Their brains aren't wired to prioritize truth or reality.
>a lot of guys end up misogynistic

good job on almost being self-aware there anon
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>>33721159
Not exactly.

Cold approach - complete stranger in a non-social setting e.g. someone sitting across from you on a bus. Regardless of her smiling and winking at you and twirling hair in her fingers and wiggling her eyebrows at you or whatever else.

Warm approach - someone you already know of and whose face you see regularly like a classmate, or whether you or her work in a coffee shop and know each other's names and regular drink, someone you see weekly at your hobby thing but have yet to fully introduce yourself to, etc.

Trying to rizz up girls at a bar or night club or at a party or concert would be somewhere in the middle, lukewarm approach i guess
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>>33721271
I know that sharks are attracted to the smell of blood. I don't hate sharks. I know plants have a tropism towards light. I don't hate plants. Acknowledging the reality of how a woman's mind works doesn't mean I hate them in anyway. It's infinitely worse in my opinion to subject them to standards and expectations in complete conflict to their nature and then end up hating them when they fail to live up to expectations. That's the story of most men. You can't hate women if your understanding of them is coherent with how they actually are. You're operating with the same delusion that causes people to drown their kids because they expect them to act in a manner other than "kidness." And you go ahead and stomp your feet at this response, but I'm talking gravity here and your opinion doesn't change reality.
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>>33721445
>you can't hate women if you consider them to be literally brainless like house plants, or at best to be simple creatures like sharks
I mean it does sound like you totally hate them still. With a deep ingrained hatred, that you try to hide behind not even pseudoscience like "gravity is real therefore women can't be trusted"
>You're operating with the same delusion that causes people to drown their kids because they expect them to act in a manner other than "kidness.
brother you're the one who sounds like he's one grumpy morning away from drowning his hypothetical kids
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>>33717879
Yappy dog energy
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>>33721488
You're an extremely tiring person. I read your response and just rolled my eyes and yawned. That sort of reaction seeking behavior you're exhibiting is exhausting.
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>>33721515
>exhausted from words on a screen
maybe you have diabetes
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>>33721515
>That sort of reaction seeking behavior you're exhibiting is exhausting.
Sounds like it worked though lmao
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>>33721555
Maybe you have down syndrome
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>>33720540
Thank you. ;-)
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>>33719923
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