Context: https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/33611867/#33611867>go on third date with this girl>we go to this large public park even though its cool and rainy >not planning to stay out that late with her since she said she has to get up early in the morning>we had a nice time, intense making out and groping>as it gets darker, I suggest we can go to a restaurant >she agrees and says she'd like that, and says she is getting a bit hungry>we stay at the park a bit longer and make out some more>I suggest we go to the restaurant now and she instead said she just wanted to go home since she is cold and may end up getting sick (i took that as a sign she is disinterested) >i said ok and we start leaving. she says i am walking too quickly and locks her arm in mine and says she wants to enjoy the moment (kek)>i walk her to the bus stop and wait for her bus with her. she then pulls out a tab of birth control pills and takes one. i couldn't believe what i was seeing so I had to ask her "oh do you feel sick?" She replies that its The Pill.>her bus comes and we kiss goodbye. As Im going home, I put two and two together. She unexpectedly changed her mind about going to eat + she took a birth control pill right in front of me. I am assuming she left early so she can go fuck another man at her place. I feel so cucked and angry even though she is not my gf. She texted me saying that she got home, then she later said "im sorry about earlier. i should've stayed longer. i really enjoyed seeing you tho." What do you think about this? Is it over? There is a good chance she is fucking other men, right?
>>33719954the pill must be taken every day for it to make effect, she is probably sexually active but taking it in front of you wasn't an accident, she wanted you to know she's open to have sex without pregnancy ruining it.about the restaurant thing, it might be many factors. If she had another plan from the start she wouldn't have accepted going to the restaurant in the beginning, she would have said no. Most probably she was gassy or some other discomfort and she didn't want to ruin the image you have of her for now. I remember an ex running away from me for no reason once when we were at a park, I didn't know what was upand then once when she was running away she let a very loud fart out lolshe ended up confessing she was running away because she was incredibly bloated but didn't want to fart in front of me.Anyways, while I don't discard your worst suspicions because who knows what's up with her, I don't know her enough, I wouldn't jump to "feel cucked and angry" over stuff like this, at least not yet, I'd wait to have better proof before jumping to such drastic conclusionsI take it you haven't dated that much if you thought a girl taking The Pill was some sort of viagra before having intense sex and stuff am I wrong.
>>33719970Yeah you’re right. I haven’t dated much.
>>33719954I replied to her “no worries.” She hearted my text…that’s all she did.
>>33719954>There is a good chance she is fucking other men, right?Have you asked her?
Fuck bro, you need to chill outAnd learn how birth control works
>>33719954She mentioned having a couch. That is an invitation to her place anon. I lack the entire context, but her saying she wanted more privacy doesn't mean your fucking car.The pill was also a reminder that she wants to sleep with you.Now go and figure out the most retarded possible excuse to 'go see her couch' or whatever.
>>33722706No. Why would I ask her that?>>33722743If she wants to sleep with me then why did she cut our date short and went home when she originally said yes to going to the restaurant?
>>33722943did she kick you out or did you just not follow her home.ya see the vision.
>>33723049She told me she was cold and may end up getting sick. I didn’t take that as a sign to fuck her.
>>33723082make her warm. many ways to do that. many such ways.
>>33723084Well she told me last time that her lease prevents her from bringing people into her apartment so that’s another reason why I didn’t invite myself to her place. I think there’s a chance she’s just using me for attention and validation now.
>>33723106leases are there to prevent people from moving in as a permanent resident without signing a new lease.>excuse me, you signed this document saying that you agree to not bring visitors everkek
>>33723321so it's over right?
>>33722706Is it common to ask this? I have a feeling she’d lie to OP anyways.
>>33725372She probably wouldn’t if she made a point to use her lease as an excuse to not have him come over . She doesn’t like him and is trying to find an easy and non-confrontational way to get him to leave her alone . She might lie and say SHE IS sleeping around to get him to fuck off
>>33725405So it’s over and I should move on for her?
>>33726141For sure
>>33726141*from her
>>33726141Its not over, but you can move on anyways.You're looking for someone to tell you the bad news, but the truth is that these things linger and sputter out. You don't get a huge confession sometimes until after you've been led on for weeks/months. Then they cut contact or mention that they found someone else.Your best bet would be to keep up with her, but move on, and maybe there is a 5% chance things work out anyways. If not, you're already looking at other women.
>>33726291Humiliation ritual. That’s what non-chads are put through.
stop reposting your retarded threads faggot.
>>33726877This thread is not a repost.
>>33726991guess I never waited the 2m to post a reply to this thread.My original reply was going to be something like:you're a fucking retard, too stupid to be breeding. so there you go.
>>33727036Why am I a retard?
>>33727052you couldn't understand the obvious tells she wanted to fuck.>lets go to my apmt>look at me take this birth control tee heehonestly I believe you didn't miss all this shit, I think you just didn't want sex at that point.No harm in being slow, but this board shouldn't be pandering to you so much.
>>33727066Who’s pandering to me?
>>33727849Read the room dumbass
>>33728530Kek
OP ur insane
>>33719970Lol you need to chill. You have to take the pill every day for it too work at the same time as well. Or as close as possible.
>>33719954>I am assuming she left early so she can go fuck another man at her placeOnline incel propaganda has turned your brain to mush, OP. It has fucked you so bad you've genuinely developed a real life cuck fixation. You're like a pepe meme come to life. Get your shit together. Its pathetic.
>>33719954Do you think that's how birth control works? They pop a pill right before they have sex? She has to take it everyday regardless if she has sex or not for it to work, peabrain.
>>33730959Then what do you make of this situation? Is it over?
>>33731931Not him, but as others have said, she wouldn’t have agreed to the restaurant in the first place if she’d always had plans to go somewhere else. She likely did feel cold for real, she may have even been dropping a hint for you to come over. Women have to take birth control at the same time daily, it’s not like viagra or something that you take before sex, how stupid are you? However, the fact that she takes it probably means she was in a relationship at some point in the near past, and/or is sexually active enough to justify taking it and/or anticipates being sexually active so takes it as a precaution
>>33732074Grim
>>33732781Birth control has a lot of side effects so a lot of women I know will stop taking it if sexually inactive. However, some also just get used to taking it and it may make their periods more regular/less intense, so it’s not as related to sex. The latter is somewhat uncommon though
Kek she just texted me saying that she finally booked a hotel with her friends in New York later this month and that she’s excited…fml
>>33719954First off, get some perspective. You met up a few times, you're not married for ten years or anything like that. Being monogamous to someone you haven't even really made out with is a really weird idea after High School.Secondly, if she invests that much time into you , she has already decided she wants your dick at the very least. If you don't meet up at your hor her place, at least pick somethign close by so you can consummate properly.Thirdly, learn to ignore the stuff that women say on such meetups , such as>but no sex tonight tee hee>I need to get up earlyThey do that to manage your expectations and not end up in the awkward position of havign to deal with a guy who assumed sex was guaranteed. It means nothing, only that she doesn't want it to get awkward if she has any last second doubts.>She replies that its The Pill.Doing it in front of you like that was her telegraphing that you should bang her already, and that you can creampie her freely to boot. She could have just waited a few minutes and taken it in the bus, so I would assume this to be intentional on her part. Lesson for the future: Don't keep a lady waiting. I've witnessed women get donwright enraged if a guy takes too long after shes ready. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and refusing her the D when she wants it counts as a scornin'
>>33734126I'm samfeagging here, but get it together man. What are you , 16? How do you imagine any potential relationship to play out if you get this assblasted every time she does anything on her own?And even if shes banging some other guy, how is this relevant. Unless she keeps doing it after you have gotten into an actual relationship its basically not even your business and also entirely unimportant to whatever is between you and her.Nearly every somewhat attractive chick has several guys shes at least flirting with at any given time unless shes in a relationship. And btw, so should you as a man.So better get used to it and stop chimping like a teenager. Embarassing.
>>33734777If she gets angry from me waiting too long, will she just dump me?>>33735110No matter what, it just makes me feel bad if a woman I am just talking to or seeing is fucking other men. I naturally feel cucked. I start asking myself what's the point of even seeing her if she just has other men to fuck (who might be more attractive than me). I start asking myself why is she fucking other men so quickly while denying it to me or throwing these mindgames and challenges. I then conclude that she is not really attracted to me and is just using me for attention and validation. If you, as a man, dont feel even slightly cucked, jealous, or insecure in a situation like this then I dont believe you.>How do you imagine any potential relationship to play out if you get this assblasted every time she does anything on her own?Who said anything about a relationship? I dont want a gf. There is no point in having one.
OP, yes she is fucking other men. that doesn’t mean she won’t also fuck you and i’m very sorry that you are too autismo to be able to tell when a girl wants sex lol. If you continue your retardation she will very much move on.
>>33736461Well she seemingly didn't move on. She is still starting conversations with me on text. And are you saying she was indeed going to fuck another man that night? >you are too autismo to be able to tell when a girl wants sexAnd you're sure that's what taking the birth control pill in front of me meant?
>>33719954Yeah, she's fucking the guy that takes her to his house instead of lame ass public parks.
>>33736973on a rainy day at that
>>33719954That's what you get for thinking you were gonna win a girl by taking her somewhere, you guys are so lame. I laugh every time I get on here and see someone say "I took a girl to this place or that place and she ghosted me..." Duhh! Girls don't wanna go nowhere with you bro they wanna get railed jackass.
>>33736973>>33736975>>33736977But she’s not making this easy for me, anons. I also live with my family. She’s also given me almost no indication that she wants to fuck. Idk what I’m doing anymore. Maybe I should just ghost her
>>33738033maybe grow some balls and focus on yourself and not what a hoe wants.
>>33738362So ur basically telling me to deny myself sex? What if I want to fuck?
Holy shit OP. You might genuinely be retarded or a super autismo or ragebaiting. If you jump to conclusions like this im sorry but you come off as a beta cuck lover who gets too easily jealous and who might be on your local neighborhood watch list for committing domestic violence against your wife for getting dinner with her friends on a Friday night. You need to get a grip over yourself and chill the fuck out. It doesnt matter if this cow is meeting other anons or not, just have a bang with her when she drops the hints (like she clearly did when she took a birth control pill in front of you, told you she was cold and wanted to go inside, and told you about her couch). If she is seeing other anons, just move on and meet the next girl until you find someone who wont cuck you. By the way, im leaning more towards that she isn't seeing other anons. Stop being retarded and take free pussy when you see it.
>>33739107>just move on and meet the next girl until you find someone who wont cuck you.But that's the thing, anon. If you're not a chad you can expect a girl to cuck you. It's 2025. Telling a non-chad (most men) to find a girl who wont cuck him in some way is ridiculous.>By the way, im leaning more towards that she isn't seeing other anonsWhy?
>>33739014t.retard
>>33736379>I naturally feel cucked.Maybe you should GTFO the internet, because doing stuff with other peopel is completely normal among grownups unless you're in an explicit monogamous relationship.She may actually have picked this up and is checking whether youre an insanely insecure jealous faggot who will annoy her to no end with malding over everythin in an eventual relationship. And wa la, you are showing your colours as anabsolute faggot who is going to be controlling and crazy.>while denying it to me or throwing these mindgames and challenges. You for real nigger? She MADE OUT WITH YOU, which naturally escalates to groping her tits, then undressing then yadda yadda. She didn't deny you shit. Even pulled taht pill move to signal she wants to bone already.>>33736379>as a man, dont feel even slightly cucked, jealous, or insecure in a situation like this then I dont believe you.Yeah you eventually realize you're just being an insecure loittle boy,then you grow out of it because feeling this way unless you'r egettign legit cucked is just an embarassment for a grown up man. >>33738033>She’s also given me almost no indication that she wants to fuckNo girl is going to pin you down and rape you. Real life isn't Hentai. This is as much "indication" as you're getting with most girls, and they expect you to be the man and make a move or they will file you mentally under "faggot". And in your case, be entirely right.>>33740118>If you're not a chad you can expect a girl to cuck you.Bull fucking shit. All the "Chads" I know are the ones who taught me that girls doing this is totally normal. A Chad simpyl doesn't feel jealous, because he also has otehr girls hes doping stuff with. As would OP, if he didn't radiate more fag energy than the entirety of San Francisco on a Satdurday night.
>>33742462>Bull fucking shit. All the "Chads" I know are the ones who taught me that girls doing this is totally normal. A Chad simpyl doesn't feel jealous, because he also has otehr girls hes doping stuff with. As would OP, if he didn't radiate more fag energy than the entirety of San Francisco on a Satdurday night.My point is that a chad is more likely than a non-chad to secure sexual loyalty and commitment from a girl. Therefore, you can't really expect a non-chad to find a girl who wont cuck him in 2025
>>33744538>source: My assYou don't get commitment from girls because you're a needy sperg who will lose his shit if she doesn't commit ion hundred percent after you like smooched that one time. Women always commit to their personal "Chad" eventually, but like every reasonable person they check whats out there for them and take the best fit, not the guy that was there first.Dating isn't a Chinese buffet restaurant.
>>33746561>they check whats out there for them and take the best fit, not the guy that was there first.>Dating isn't a Chinese buffet restaurant.You’re contradicting yourself. If you don’t mind me asking, are you over the age of 30?
