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My last thread fell into Oblivion with little to none replies, so I'm gonna make it once again.

I'm M27 electronics teacher in vocational school with 4 years of experience and a couple of certificates of advanced training. I found this job by chance while getting a Telecoms degree in uni, and before that I couldn't find the job on my own, so I took what I've been given. This job does provide some amounts of money I can spend and save a lot of, as well as a some sort of stability. But at the same time it's leaving me deeply unsatisfied, as the job consumes big amounts of time and even bigger amounts of energy, and I never really had any real deep interest in technical stuff. This very choice of technical major by the end of the school have led me to be very depressed, and I haven't really moved from this feeling by now, being recently diagnosed with mild depressive episode.
Meanwhile, I have basically nowhere to go from there: as I don't have any provable skills and/or experience that would led me to another job on this same level without reverting to flipping burgers, delivering pizzas or giving away orders in local ersatz-Amazon office. My real interests are history and fiction, which I fulfil by watching videos, movies and series, reading books and Wikis, and playing TTRPGs, but I can't really do much with those interests. In my big shithole of a country these are considered as just mere hobbies and means of entertainment at best, so there are no real and stable ways of profit from them there. I have chosen my major and the aforementioned job as means of mere survival in these circumstances, but I do not wish to stay in this "survival mode", as it takes more and more inner resources from me.
So what can even do about it? How do I manage this situation or at least cope with it?
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>>33734604
No offense OP but Imma give a low effort response. Consider this a bump. For reference I'm a 23yo de facto neet working towards the same CS degree since 5 years
>How cope with it
Leave survival mode before doing anything else
If you can not achieve a steady level of energy you cannot load more on your plate
>No interest in technical work
>Where to go from here
I study computer science and it has made me hate technology but IT has good career prospects and it is well known that self-taught people are often picked over incompetent graduates + it's the sector of "life-long learning" so if you do achieve a steady level of energy then get to work and do programming projects
I personally don't believe in passion and fun and blablabla.
Those of us that want to make money gotta do what we hate. Might as well get good at it
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>>33734700
> Leave survival mode before doing anything else
How so?
I've been working for 4 years already and adapted to the job in some way or another, yet working and talking with multiple people at once, making and editing infinite amounts of docs and learning materials and getting no real feedback on the actual quality of my job from at least higher-ups are ones of some aspects that take the biggest tolls on me.
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>>33734745
That's a damned good question. Unlike you I am in a situation where I can choose how much work I do at any given moment. So for me the advice would be stuff like "get up at the same time every day", "make sure to practice boredom instead of being on your phone all the time" etc.
I understand that for a tired member of the workforce this advice is of limited help
The only other advice I know is badically what David Goggins says, that regardless of what's in front of you, you still must grind
Or Lebron James: Tiredness exists only in the mind.
Basically the advice here is to toughen up and work harder.
I know what this may sound like coming from me. I'm a loser.
And, you know. 5 years of rotting in my dungeon might have been a sort of sunken-cost thing too.
But in the end I still believe that the only way out is to work harder
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addendum: work harder on your skills of course. Not on your job. Good luck anon
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>>33735135
So you're suggesting that I should focus on grinding skills that are related to my own interests and not to my job?
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>>33735274
>grinding skills
Always a good idea imo
>related to my interests
Less clever. I speak Japanese. I have never used it. Unless I move to Japan, I will never use it
>related to my job
Maybe just related to technology in general.
It's difficult but the few things about CS that I find interesting are the ones that I actually put some learning effort into already
In my experience, learning comes first, motivation comes later
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>>33734604
You're a wimp. Grow a pair of balls dude. Realize this, you were a teacher. Flipping burgers and working at Amazon will never happen to you after being a teacher for four years unless your just flat out dumb which I don't think you are so idk why you'd even overthink it that hard. There are 50-year-olds out here who've never even had their own place let alone a job bro. There are people who will never go to college. There's people out here with 5 kids who can't even get a job FLIPPING BURGERS.

Be grateful and have a little gratitude for life and the universe and all you have and all life has allowed you to feel like you've accomplished (which honestly means nothing at all). Stop being afraid to be happy. To do what you want. To be you. All cause you're scared you might get some nasty poverty germs on you. Ever tried living on the sidewalk? I have. Try that. You won't cry about your little electronics degree anymore I guarantee you that. Maybe that's what you need. I always recommend people like you try being homeless for a week. That'll fix all the little problems you think you have.

You said, "My real interests are history and fiction, which I fulfil by watching videos, movies and series, reading books and Wikis, and playing TTRPGs." Ok then how about starting a history/fiction podcast? Oh yeah, that's right. You're too worried about what everyone in your country thinks to do that. Too afraid of survival mode. Sad.
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>>33736951
> You're a wimp.
Well, sorry about that
> so idk why you'd even overthink it that hard
I admit my overthinking there. I just don't know where I can move further with whatever skills I've got from my experience. It seems like I can only move horizontally, because any other move up or sideways will be too hard to handle.
> Be grateful and have a little gratitude for life and the universe and all you have and all life has allowed you to feel like you've accomplished
> (which honestly means nothing at all)
So should I be grateful for what I haven't even accomplished myself or what means nothing at all? I don't get it.
> Stop being afraid to be happy. To do what you want. To be you.
And how do I stop this particular fear?
> All cause you're scared you might get some nasty poverty germs on you.
So shouldn't I be afraid of living in poverty or should I love and cherish any job that I've got on my hands out of the fear of living in poverty?
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>>33736951
>Ok then how about starting a history/fiction podcast?
And aren't there enough of those on the Internet? What will it give me if I start one?
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>>33734604
man try looking into becoming ETO (eletro-technical officer) onboard merchant ships. if that's not possible you could at least become an OS (ordinary seaman) and try to make your way up. the pay is good and it's tough sometimes but completely out of the rat race type of life. i hated this life at first but then you get used to the jobs and routines onboard so you have some free time to read about your history and fiction, or watch movies or play videogames. and then you get back home for a couple months with a ton of cash saved and absolutely no obligations. no meetings, reunions, teams calls, corporte bs, no commute, you never have to go out in rush hour anymore. i even avoid normal people hours to go to parks or the supermarket. you can travel during off-season when everything is cheaper and empty. or isolate yourself in a cabin or buy a sailboat and explore and liveaboard.
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>>33739860
Sounds like a good "all in" option. but is it possible to become a seaman being already 27 y.o or older? And shouldn't you have a near-perfect health and physique for that?
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>>33734604
Invest the shit out of your money and do whatever you want.
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>>33734604
Well if you're financially stable enough you could try a role change and see if it's a better balance. Try and nurture your passions, maybe you can be a weekend historian at a museum or write into an open submission at a fiction magazine.

But you've hardly entered the realm of hobby-coping, sounds like you could build your own fpv drone and hold time trials
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>>33740670
> you're financially stable enough
That's the thing, I'm not quite sure if I'm gonna be one if I just leave my job with such options instead.
> you could build your own fpv drone and hold time trials
What do you mean by that?
>>33740662
Not in my country, I fear, and definitely not in its currency.
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>>33740687
Bull shit. You can’t use an online exchange?
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>>33740695
Such services may not be available in my country, if there are any.
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>>33740641
Nah it's just the mariner license and certification system through your country to work on civilian ships. 27 isn't necessarily too old to enlist though either

>>33740687
Maybe I misinterpreted, it was a proposal for fun: to build and race around a small quadcopter.



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