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>have a female friend
>find her attractive and wish to have a relationship with her
>invite her to one on one meetings aka "dates" (without saying it is a date)
>the girl becomes increasingly hard to meet with
>you finally crack and outright tell her you are interested in being in a relationship
>she acts surprised and rejects you
Is this the universal experience for mid 20s vaguely autistic nerds? I thought I was the only one but my close friend just went through the whole rigamarole (including being rejected). It feels like women aren't interested in a relationship at all.
As far as I understand mid men are supposed to chase the woman they like but how the fuck are you supposed to do that when she straight up doesn't want to meet with you? This isn't the 90s where people used to just meet up randomly, now you have to schedule everything otherwise they will tell you to fuck off.
So I don't get it. How am I supposed to get into a relationship?
I tried tinder but I am really autistic and don't know how to text so it didn't work at all for me.
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>>33734895
yeah that's just how it goes
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Gonna level with you here. You're probably a lot more autistic than you think you are. Like, unable to form sentences autistic. You just don't hear it for some reason.
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>>33734895
First mistake was to hide your intentions. If I find a woman attractive I am interested in I'm open about it. After a few pleasentries to make sure she isn't crazy I ask if she has any plans. If she is into you she say no, then you invite her to a nice chill public place you both can talk. You then talk for a bit, letting her talk more. Then after the end you ask, her Stacie wasn't that place awesome, would you like to come by my place I got this thing I want to show you. If she say yes, she really is into you. Then you bring her to your place and show her the thing and then say, Stacie wanna watch a movie? If she say yes, she wants it. Then when you guys are watching some movies you make your move.
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>>33734895
you don’t try to date your friends are you retarded? when a woman befriends a guy it’s because she feels safe with him as in she assumes he would never try to fuck her which is the universal experience of being a woman and it sucks. You ruined that image. of yourself to her so of course she rejected you
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>>33734921
I'm reasonably autistic (not too much and I consume alcohol often to remedy it esp in company so I come off a lot less autistic than a lot of other people) but this just also happened to my very barely autistic friend who I use for a lot of my socialization needs. That guy is extroverted, tall, reasonably smart etc so pretty high up in the social hierarchy.
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>>33734926
What I want to say is that if she says sorry I have some plans then she isn't really into you. I'm sorry but that's how it is. I recommend talking with several women at the same time when you are a Bachelor. That way if one rejects you still playing the game.
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>>33734895
>how the fuck are you supposed to do that when she straight up doesn't want to meet with you?
it's her way of rejecting you softly
you need to know the signals
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>>33734938
I don't want casual sex, I'm looking for a relationship and then marriage, so I need someone who I can tolerate and talk with. So obviously they need to be some level of friend, I'm not talking too close but someone I talked to a couple times before.
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>>33734941
Brother you need to be honest if you find a woman attractive. Pretending to be someone's friend when you want to fuck em ain't nice. I'm borderline autistic and I know this.
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>>33734949
I get that but its mixed signals. Last girl was my coworker and she always told me shit like "I'm real happy to see you today" and such, and every time we met she was like "you are the only one I feel like I can trust" (rephrased but basically what she said).
Then every time we made plans she copped out at the last minute or straight up told me she has no time at the start. So it was fucking weird. I only got to meet her through our mutual friend at the end.
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>>33734971
My brother in Christ, she is being nice to you at work. Women do tend to send miss signals I give you that which is why as a man you need to be ascertive with them. You need to let them know that you find them attractive and would like to know more about them outside of work and invite them somewhere. If she doesn't feel the same say I understand and move on. Don't get too attached towards someone because whole you might feel smitten she just thinks you are that annoying guy at work. Women think that by acting all nice they can lower the chances of something bad happening to them. The reason many times they are nice even when they don't like the person is because of this. Which again you need to be ascertive and upfront. And if it doesn't work then disengage. No need to keep pursuing someone at work that doesn't like you. You then keep the interactions professional.
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>>33734895
>invite her to one on one meetings aka "dates" (without saying it is a date)
What the actual fuck?! What on Earth made you think this was a good Idea?
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>>33734895
That one on one meeting probably obviously came across as a date and you were too autistic to notice. If she doesn't wanna meet up with you that's just her rejecting you, move on.
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>>33735008
She wasn't just nice to me at work because we met many times outside of work and had several mutual friends, mainly my female cousin. I doubt I'm "the annoying guy" since women at my work generally like me (according to an inside source that no longer works there). My work (fast food, I make minimum wage working there part time) is 80/20 women/men so I have a lot of time to talk with the women there.
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>>33735039
Will someone please tell this poor sap or should I?
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>>33735049
I'm a genuinely likable person I just have a problem with intimacy and personal relations
I tend to keep away from people mostly and only engage those who engage with me
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>>33735073
People are being nice to you because of your cousin. You are said person weird cousin who talks a lot. I know this because I also have a weird cousin like that. He isn't a bad dude but he is pretty weird and women don't find him attractive. I'm being honest here. I know it sounds harsh but nobody in your life will tell you this because they don't want to hurt your feelings.

My advice is to work on yourself. Get in shape, work as hard as you can. Get a steady job or some form of education. You sound young so you have all the time in the world to improve your lot. When you become successful enough weird guys become eccentric. How do I know this? Because I am one. I remember when I was the weird guy in the family but as I became successful more and more people stop seeing me this way.
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>>33735113
I'm not too weird and I don't talk a lot. I am mostly withdrawn. You misjudged my character entirely here.
I have friends other than my cousins' friends.

>You sound young so you have all the time in the world to improve your lot
I'm 23. I should already have marriage prospects. I want to have a family and children.
I don't need any more self improvement, I am already a person superior to most people. I am in shape, smart, good looking, etc. That stuff basically doesn't matter in this category anyways so more "self improvement" is worthless.
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>>33734895
>>the girl becomes increasingly hard to meet with
At that point you should have already known it's ogre. Could have saved yourself the spelled out rejection.
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>>33735172
>I am already a person superior to most people
Stop coping this way, it makes you insufferable although I believe taht you are agenerally likeable guy.

But flirting is a skill like any other, and you know jack shit about it. For 23, you are underdeveloped.
>I am in shape, smart, good looking, etc.
that helps, but is completely worthless unless you show interest in women, and I don't mean playing the asexual gay best friend routine. I mean making it clear that you may want to fuck them if they're cool in a socially acceptable manner aka flirting.
Because women are such pussies and rarely have the courage to be assertive, its on you as the man to find out whether she is interested in you as well. You do that by showing your interest and risking rejection. Without that , you will remain unfucked forever.
Also, yes, flirting and fucking comes before marriage. The days where your parents just discuss marriage prospects and then shake hands on it with the girls parents after negotiating the conditions are long over.
You will have ot emotionally engage with a girl, and then entails penissary contact with her Vulva.
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>>33735172
>I am in shape, smart, good looking, etc.
That's what you think.
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>>33735293
Yep. OP is too much do a fool to realize this. He needs to work on himself. Its up to him to realize it.



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