>>33737392
Go to the core of the communication. What is their subtext? So address that directly.

>>33737392
If you're using logical arguments to show your point, I don't see how the other person would disagree. I think you just suffer from a narcissistic disorder and think you are always right and everyone else is always wrong.

>>33737597
If the other person is gonna screech about how wrong you are are without actually explaining how, deliberately not engage with the points being made and strawman, then how would that be your fault? It wouldn't be, not everyone is a good faith actor and people will insult when they are the ones who start the debate, I'm not provoking people at all. In a way, you kind of prove my point by automatically assuming bad faith on my end and that I am a narcissist rather than take what I say with any sort of charity.

>>33737392
Kek, he says while on 4chan.

>>33737597
not true at all, some people are allergic to logic

>>33737392
You stop trying once you developed better pattern recognition

>>33737622
There you go, showing once again how right you are and how wrong I am. Textbook example of narcissistic personality disorder.

>>33737857
You said if I was using logical arguments, you don't see how you would disagree. I pointed out you have no reason to assume I am narcissistic, but that is somehow a sign of me being narcissistic? Wouldn't assuming the other person is a narcissistic from the outset be poisoning the well, therefore being poisoning the well fallacy?
I guess if I actually point out logical fallacies, that makes me a narcissist though even though you said people are only convinced through logic.

>>33737392
>Know the other person is being disingenious

At this point, you would either call them out or just stop talking to them.

>>33737597
>If you're using logical arguments to show your point, I don't see how the other person would disagree.
I have some bad news champ

>>33739300
Don't bother responding to that retard. Anyone who doesn't live under a rock knows appeal to logic barely works on anyone in the modern world.

>>33739300
Once again, you're proving everyone you suffer from narcissistic personality disorder...

>poisoning the well fallacy
That's a type of ad hominem attack aimed at discrediting the speaker. Why would I even have to discredit you? You came here and asked for advice. I simply noted how your behavior checked every box for narcissistic disorder. Why would I even try to argue with a narcissist who already made up his mind??

By perceiving my replies as an "attack" towards your grandiosity, you once again exposed yourself as exactly what I accused you of being. You just keep proving my point over and over with every new reply you make. And worse of all is you'll never even acknowledge it.

>>33739748
Nta but you're a complete retard wannabe therapist. I should head my own advice and not give you the (you)s you so badly crave but holy shit go back, moron.

>>33739748
I will bet money that you are a foid. Your reasoning, or lack thereof, reminds me of my bpdemon narcissist ex. If you’re a man, I hope you God you change your contrarian ways while you still can

>>33737392
>>Know the other person is being disingenious
>>Still try to reason with the other person
You are aware you can simply NOT be a retard, yes?

This notion that someone has identified a completely optional action which they would benefit from simply not doing,
And they still can't figure out how to literally just not,
Is fucking strange to me. Maybe I'm just retarded, since I don't get it.

My best guess is that this is someone who is experiencing emotions, and their emotions bitch at them to socially engage, and they listen to the emotions, because they WANT to be an emotion user.
Then when it turns out the emotions were retarded, the person doesn't go "I changed my mind and I don't want the things I wanted 30 minutes ago", they LARP that they can't figure out what they're doing.
If that's the case, quit your LARP and admit you're listening to emotions and then changing your mind.

>>33737392
This is literally my older brother.

Here’s how:
>emotionally disinvest, accept that the argument does not matter and when you feel your emotional investment rise, observe it but do not lean into it, just think about how it actually doesn’t matter *with this person*
The key is those last 3 words, because it is the pressure that it matters that compels you to speak your mind. Remind yourself that you can’t win with this person and that, with this person, it matters absolutely 0. Just stare out the window and calmly ask if they’ve had lunch. Switch topic.

This happened to me yesterday. We were talking about jewish conspiracy in media, something I’ve talked about for years and he just suddenly came around to, and I said it was interesting that they hadn’t bought my country’s biggest media yet though. He suddenly flips (and his wife joins) and they lecture me like I were an imbecille that ”it is the employees who are Jewish.” I stood there dumbfounded, like have they forgotten what I’ve been saying for the past 4 years? I said yeah but it’s still weird that they haven’t bought the conglomeration yet, and his attitude became resentful, like I was a fucking piece of shit. I flipped out (didn’t take my own advice) and just asked him if he was clinically retarded? I was making an interesting observation and I was in agreement with him. He continued, and I felt fucked in the ass.

Such people are mentally ill. You must not engage.

>>33737392
Debate - just for the sake of mental exercise and interacting - can be fun in itself

>>33740894
>like I was a fucking piece of shit.
Well, yes

>>33737392
>I had just wasted time on nothing
Life itself is waste of time, retarded frogposter.

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>>33737392
>>Get roped into an argument or mini debate
This doesn't happen. You are projecting your own inability to just shrug and move on. You have agency

>>33737597
Lol you don't know anything about NPD. Quit the larp armchair shrink.