I'm a 24 year old white male who's also 5'6.I really want to stop being a virgin and want to have sex and possibly a girlfriend. I dress and take care of myself pretty well, I'm not shy around women nor do I let my height bother me much. I haven't actively been trying much though. Are dating apps worth it? I plan on starting college soon so maybe I can meet women there? Give me advice on how to proceed please.
>>33756877Where do you live? What are the ethnicities of the girls around you?
Take estrogen
>>33756894I live in NY and around my area it's mostly white or Latino women.>>33756899No but thanks for the offer
>>33756877Look up local swinger bars.Go during an event, or just when it's active.You will be literaly drowning in pussy.
>>33757066Not sure if a swingers club is the best idea for me. I'm a bit unfamiliar with them but it seems like they're for people who have plenty of experience. Wondering if dating apps would be good for me or not,
bump
>>33757099>Wondering if dating apps would be good for me or not,Sausage fests purposely built to erode your self esteem so you pay your subscription in empty hopes of finally getting a match are basically the worst thing you could do possible. Get friends, get asocial circle, get invited to parties, if you got nothing go alone to bars/Clubs that you enjoy. Finding a sport/hobby you are passionate about is worth it for the sake of itself and will often lead to meeting women as well. >starting college soon so maybe I can meet women there?Focus on getting involved in the social life there, don't be that guy who is just ogling the chicks.
>>33758084>if you got nothing go alone to bars/Clubs that you enjoy.I have tried clubs not my thing but maybe I'll try a bar>Finding a sport/hobby you are passionate about is worth it for the sake of itself and will often lead to meeting women as well.I LOVE cosplaying and have met a few girls at conventions but right now it's only platonic>Focus on getting involved in the social life there, don't be that guy who is just ogling the chicks.Any club idea's to help me achieve this?
>>33756877pulverize niggers with flamethrowers
>>33758568I need real advice here anon
>>33758596that's real advice, albeit for a possibly divergent outcome
>>33756921Are they hot
>>33756877If you're confident, or able to fake confidence convincingly, you'll be fine.
The only app that will get you laid is grindr.
>>33762908Some of the girls in my area are cute>>33762937I'm pretty confident. I'm not really shy when it comes to women. I'm not smooth but I'm not afraid to talk to them and start a conversation.>>33762940Not gay
>>33756921>I live in NYNYC? If you can't get laid there you must be horrifically ugly and smelly. The rest of New York is dead and if you are there it's over.
>>33763999I live outside of NY and I'm good with my bathing , better than most men desu. Also I'm not really putting in any effort right now. Wondering what I can do that might actually help me
>>33764040outside of NYC
>>33756877Go outside. Go to bars, clubs, etc. Find social groups online on facebook or something. Your first step is to identify where the women in your area like to hang out after work or class (as you mentioned college so I must make it clear i mean adult women).Once you've identified that space, your goal is to regularly attend it and strike up conversations with women there. Some tips:>avoid talking about yourself unless asked, keep it brief if asked>try to ask questions about what the other person just said, to try and get more details out of them>If you are telling a story, leave out anything thats gross, illegal, or niche. She doesnt care about your zits, your weed, or your warhammer action figures.>women are people too - they have sexual desires but feel stifled by society to keep them under wraps. She'll try to be subtle if she wants to fuck you. Look out for excuses to get you alone either at your place or hers. Be perceptive, but do not assumeI wouldn't recommend dating apps desu. Women dont use them, or if they do they're paid to do so. Most of the women on dating apps nowadays are either landwhales that delude themselves into thinking they're hot, or bots that delude you into thinking you aren't being catfished by a 48yo man in south koreaLastly when you get her into bed, please remember that consent is a touchy topic that you will need to get through. I had a friend who got charged with rape because the chick he was fucking changed her mind after the fact. Get it in writing or on video that she consents. It WILL save your ass if she tries to take you to court because she wasn't satisfied with your dick.
How the hell are you struggling to get laid in NYC of all places? extremely high population density. literally just go to a bar. come on.
>>33764084I don't live in NYC I live in the state but not the city >>33764075I don't know where to find those places but I'll try I guess
>>33764112They're easy af to find. You're starting college soon yeah? You're gonna have female classmates. Try connecting with one or more of them under the guise of "mutual studying". Make a genuine attempt to study together with women from your class or age group.Once you've established a pattern of regularly choosing to do additional study with some of these women (or even dudes, because our goal here isn't to date, it's to network), start casually suggesting that you'd like to find some place to chill after class or on weekends, see what all the other students are doing after class.Once you know where everyone is hanging out after class and spending their time, you can start infiltrating these social venues and begin networking more, getting to know the women that attend that venue, and if your pickings are slim then network some more and find more venues.Honestly, the fact you're starting college soon is probably the best leg-up you can get - by using an already mutual activity such as studying, it allows you to get closer to the women in your class without startling them with your interest in them. You do this to random women in a bar and they're gonna know right away you wanna fuck them. A college gives you an opportunity to acquaint yourself with many women, innocently too, while you get to know them more and choose who you want to court.
>>33764151Good idea anon thank you
>>33756877>I really want to stop being a virginWhy? Why aren't you happy as a virgin? What makes you think having sex will change/fix anything you couldn't yourself? >>33764075>Get it in writing or on video that she consentsWomen can go fuck themselves.
>>33764165I just want to know what sex feels like and jerking off to hentai isn't enough anymore
>>33764182You're going to have a shit time wherever you are if you aren't happy with your life as it is. Even if you can bed someone with all these tactics it won't change anything. Try not jerking off to porn for a week or so and instead use your imagination.
>>33764193I've done that before and it doesn't help. I want to lose my virginity
>>33764165>Women can go fuck themselves.Absolutely, fuck (or, to be more accurate, do not fuck) those psycho bitches that will cry rape as soon as its convenient for them to change their minds on consent.That chick in my story? She did this to my friend, he didnt record the consent and was forced to plead no contest before the magistrate (AU Court). The next bloke she dated was smart though. He recorded every act. He'd start by telling her "this is what we will be doing, i will be recording this, do you consent" and making sure he recorded her consenting to the act, to the filming, and to the use of each toy.3 months later she's told the cops he raped her. He played the entire tape before a packed courthouse as his defense. Charges dropped, bitch flagged as the bitch who cried wolf for all future claims.Record the consent people. If only for the fact that you can embarrass that bitch infront of a packed court room 3 months down the line.
>>3375687724 is salvageable, you have time. I'd be more concerned about a steady girlfriend than just sex, though. There's a shift around 27 where you feel that you're getting too old for messing around.
>>33756877As a 23 year old going to college I find it nearly impossible to get a girlfriend at this fucking shit hole. This shit is a giant fucking scam and I fucking HATE IT HERE. Unenroll as soon as possible and look into trades or something. In regards to getting women I don't fucking even know myself as I have tried fucking everything. Maybe just go to a happy ending message parlor
>>33764151Fucking stupid advice quit getting this poor bastards hopes up. If he hasn't found a girl by now, none of the college stacies will want anything to do with them because they only want 6 foot+ jock chads with a six pack. I can attest to this as a 23 year old going through this stupid fucking scam called a college.
>>33756877Yes you are short. It is a fact and the dating market is quite hard for those like you. But every single one of my short friends gets sex. It is not that hard. A couple advice : Stop being so focused on not being a virgin, because women, guess what…are actual humans and can feel it. Maybe i would too think abt it if i were a 24 yo virgin so i don’t blame you.Read some books from Neil Strauss and Alin Bories (available on Z Lib). Then realise it is not real life. But still do the steps in Rules of the Games. I know everyone talks about it and it is not the best thing ever, but still helps. It will help build confidence.Try also to be funny : how ? Practice. See comedians that make you laugh and try to understand why (and yes choose comedians that make women laugh too, not those making some idk star wars corny jokes). Then practice storytelling : some fun things that happened in your childhood or in your life and practice telling the story in a funny way. Ofc exercice and dress properly. Smell good. You can buy cheap fragrance like the one listed by Fits by stick. Watch Tobey’s video.Try to be in general a nice human being : don’t be a retard, don’t be a nerd, try to have actual things you like but aren’t weird. Get into literature, cooking etc. Watch “easy actually” on youtube. You should probably try dating apps and do dates to train your confidence. Try to being kind, to listen etc. At the end write what went good and less good in the dates. Don’t spend money on women. Try also having a large vocabulary, to be articulate. Watch Odysseas. Do go down the rabbit hole of like the unfair dating market womp womp i’m a looser type shit. Pity will get you nowhere, maybe on porn or ofBut altogether, be happy, be nice and things will go accordingly. Oh yeah, stop masturbating too.
>>33765736Thanks for the advice anon. I'm not looking for pity or anything I just want to get better. I already shower) with REAL soap not 2 in 1 shit ), wear fragrance, and dress well. Just need to get in slightly better shape and try to approach women more I guess
>>33756877nothing to worry about being a virgin. that's a good thing in today's economy. dating apps are not worth it.
>>33766315Some anons have said they are and aren't. Not sure what I'll do but if I don't find a girl in college I'll try dating apps I think
>>33756877Youll meet chicks in collage then. Youll prolly lose your virginity in a year
>>33768737Thanks anon, hopefully that's true
just start heightmaxxing
>>33756877Dating apps are worth it. Be up front, say you are virgin. Dont set your standards too high or you will never find a girl. Every girl is going to have at least one thing you dont like, learn to accept it.
>>33764040>I'm good with my bathing , better than most men desu.Normal men don't talk like that, so you're clearly being dishonest. Your low hygiene standards will present a serious problem in find a woman.
>>33769631yeah I'd say they're worth it, somehow I got laid and went on a bunch of dates in a few months and I was an incel chud before, but I have a good face and am 5'9, which is still short. It'll be over for me in a few years cause I'm balding though.
>>33756877Nothing changes after sex. You are you but most likely dissatisfied because most first sex is bad sex and at this point you are so far along you should be looking for wife and not pussy fuck with your cock wrapped in latex to avoid that late sex whore burn because that is all you will find in the willing pussy department store of your large city's neighborhood prostitute block.
>>33769634Desu got filtered out for what I really said. I have great hygiene standards >>33769631Yeah I'm not expecting a perfect 10/10 and know there will be some things I disline about them. As long as it's not major I don't mind
>>33768818Yeah dw about it. As long as you dont let of an assburger vibe or act creepy, while maintaining a balanced presence, you will end up talking with them which leads to chemistry which leads to intimacy
>>33772372Thanks anon. This reply gave me a bit of hope :)I'm pretty decent socially right now and have gotten a few girls numbers at anime cons so hopefully college will work out for me.
>>33756877I'm a 28 year old virgin and still wonder about this.
>>33765665Cope. More than a few girls went for the chubby, short sex addict at the college I went to. Then he was expelled for an underage DUI. Miss that dude, he was a riot.
>>33776349>>33756877Almost thirty and I kind of just gave up. The will to date and try to find a wife is now coming back to me but i look at the state of women and society in general and at best (this is the absolute best scenario) i would put a child trough this hell hole. So unless i somehow make enough money to buy a farm stead and fuck off from society the single life it is for me.... Anything less is not worth even trying for.
