i'll do anything, I won't complain or make excuses. I feel like shit that genuinely people always make fun of me, hate me, reject me and realized at 24 that i'm a loser and it's getting to me. I don't know what to do to be more likable or have people actually interested in me. How do you guys do it?
>>33765860You could read that book serial killers like, I think it's called "How to Make Friends and Influence People".
>>33765860if you try to be likable, you become a doormatif you try to achieve something with your life, you become likable
>>33765860You don't just learn that stuff. You either have it or you don't. If you were attractive and charismatic, you would have been a magnet for people since elementary school. Instead, you're repulsive and give off a bad vibe to people.
>>33765860how are your relations with your family?
>>33765860You sound like a real misery to be around.
Likeable is a strange word to me. I would focus on being competent. That's the opposite of being a loser.
>>33765873>>33766920So like my only way to have good friends and a girlfriend is to be worth of something? I just never understood how I had such a shitty social life and people always ignored me or treated me like a kid, I want it too fucking stop. It's so annoying never being taken seriously while so many others are.
When you talk to people ask them questions about their life and sound interestedAsk questions you don't even care about, you might actually care and be interested
>>33765860who fucking cares what goycattle think
>>33769075i care cause i want pussy and im tired of being a virgin loser, i want friends and girlfriend, i'm tired of being one of them many loser men in this century. so many loser men and i'm fucking sick of it dude, everything is always against us now
Following this thread for advice too>>33768698>When you talk to people ask them questions about their life and sound interestedThat's one way.Here are my list of don't's from my experience:>Don't mention that you have no friends, and/or estranged from family>Don't appear deseperate for social interaction>Don't mention internet memes in real life>Don't make edgy jokes or attempt dark humor around people you just met>Don't always talk about 1 topic (i.e video games, anime, comics, etc). It gets old real fast. It helps to keep up with the news.>Don't forget body language. Practice confident, open body language to look more approachable.>Don't talk it too personally if people avoid small talk. Some people simply don't have time.>Don't skip showering or brushing your teeth past 24 hours>Most important of all: Don't mention you go on 4chan.
>>33769963Change you attitude. No one wants to be around negativity. Smile a lot. Ask people questions about themselves
>>33769973this is good advice thanks man>>33769975yeah your right, i went off crazy back there, it's just frustrating trying to be normal, everyone seems to figure it out and i keep fucking up and getting ditched
>>33765860Why aren't you likable? I don't think you'll get anywhere following all this projected advice if you don't understand why you're already not likeable.
>>33765860Whisper insulting remarcks about minorities and liberals to people. The ones that laugh will be your friend. The ones that are shocked will follow you. The ones that are angered were going to hate you anyway.
>>33765860don't show up empty handed, bring gifts or food or flowers or something nice then people will associate you with getting something good
>>33765860be good looking. If not, then at least be average looking. Then you do the mirroring, smiling and be talkative. All pretty much explained here, though it's a book for sales people in the 30s>>33765864Be careful not to try do befriend narcissists though and you need to be able to read people ab be naturally cheerful, or you end up being a creepy tryhard. Overall it's really hard, and most people are very passive in general. Some end up being in like Palestine protests just in order to appease people and getting liked, even though they don't care about the topic. I did it and it works, but because it's so exhausting I stopped bothering.
>>33770009I don't know, people find me annoying, weird and retarded? They say i'm overly clingy and annoying and I made a joke about beating my dick to MLP and people bullied me for it. I deserved it but fucking cmon I was a kid
>>33771439>I deserved it but fucking cmon I was a kidseriously you're hanging on to THIS years later? those people (assume-ably) are no longer in your life or even adjacent to it and yet you're clinging to that one time you were bullied for being a fucking retard? do you see yourself and why anyone new would be fucking horrified to be your friend? you're self aware enough to realize you're a literal chud but all you can do is whine on an indoneasian travel exchange? are you for real?
>>33771536why are you so mean to me man, i don't have any friends and I wish to change and be better, idk how calling me a retard helps
>>33771536whats a chud
Don’t overthink it.Read the Carnegie book, but don’t approach things just trying to be likable. Approach them wanting to be authentic and confident in who you are.
>>33771948is that why lotta incels and losers exist? they overthink and fuck up their chances? its hard to be normal, i wasn't raised right by my parents.
>>33772031I think a lot of people don’t push themselves to live lives they’re proud of, even in small ways like spending time on hobbies they actually enjoy. They end up feeling unfulfilled and try to fill the gap by impressing others, which just comes off as fake and exhausting.Right now, I’m working as an actor in a haunted house. Some people might think that’s lame, but I love it, and people actually get a kick out of it when I tell them. That’s the point — when you’re happy with yourself by following what you value, your interactions are about connecting, not trying to impress anyone.
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>>33772180This anon gets it. That's been my experience too. The tryhards of being cool, funny, and trying to impress people are cringe and end up being ostracized by everyone.
>>33765860Your basic problem here is that you hate yourself and you think you're unlikeable. When you meet someone new, you are sending out a whole host of non-verbal signals which tell the other person how you're approaching the encounter and how you expect them to respond to you. Now, obviously everyone has their own agenda but, other things being equal, people tend to react to you the way that your signals tell them you're expecting them to react. So if you go into a conversation and every single signal you're sending out says "there is nothing good about me, it's impossible for you to like me" then people will pick up on that. Subconsciously they read the fact that you're unlikeable, and write you off before you've even opened your mouth. So, what you need to do is change your signals. Learn to *pretend* to be a person who likes himself and is confident. This is hard; it will take a long time, and it involves a lot of different things: how you dress, how you groom yourself, how you speak, and your posture, gestures, facial expressions, and other body language, and a bunch of other stuff too.Think of it like a stage performance: you need to start acting the part of a confident person. If you can do that convincingly, people will respond to you much more positively; and once they start doing that, you'll begin to acquire some genuine confidence, and after a while it won't be a performance any more.
>>33773053I also think i'm better off hanging out with social autists and weirdos. Every time I try to be confident or hype myself up people just shit on me anyways and feel weird of how I change. Everytyime I'm happy or I do something good for myself, people get angry. Maybe i'm just with the wrong people or something like my family, I really do not like my family yet I still live with them cause i'm poor. Once I move out and leave them i'll probably build a shit ton of confidence, it's hard to have confidence when people shit on you when you do.
>>33773221>Everytyime I'm happy or I do something good for myself, people get angry.I seriously doubt that. I think there's probably a lot more going on here than you're telling us - possibly more than you yourself realise.
>>33765860I was thinking the other day about this myself. I worked on practicing conversation with AI, and realized I don't really have much to say. Maybe you're like me?
>>33773425Probably am, I don't know, it's hard for me to start convos anyways>>33773364Should I mention that i'm short and black and look like a cartoon character? Or that i'm too neurotic and self aware? I don't know what you want from me man I don't know much about my self
