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Why is it so hard for me to get a girlfriend while it seems easy for others to get one?
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>>33770020
I ask myself the same question. Fuck my life.
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>>33770020
Do you go outside?
Do you talk to girls?
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>>33770039
>Do you go outside?
Girls literally are either getting date raped in college, INDOORS, or busy doing shit not around guys, INDOORS. Shut the fuck up.
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>>33770020

It can be difficult for some, but also can be tedious once you find someone, but still worth it my opinion. Living life alone sucks, and once you placed this envy in you, it won't let you go easily.

I am pretty much in a similar boat but I'll keep trying. I've had relationships but they do not come easily. In the past 22 years, I had one recently that lasted 5 years or so. And it was cool until things fell apart.

I am looking for a very last one, and if it happens it should last the rest of my life and preferably within some of my standards. For several reasons, spending a life without using the empathic part of your brain to care and having who cares about you and without using what's between your legs while you can is somewhat a little sad. There's a medium stance between something too physical and something too platonic and it's hard to find. It's something I'd like for myself having had a peak at the two extremes. I don't like when stuff gets too naughty, it feels nasty. I don't like things too platonic, maybe except when you get older, because the other partner will get bored.
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>>33770020
You either get lucky or don't in 2025.
>>33770069
Yeah, this >>33770039 is retarded boomer advice and would get you a reputation as a creep quickly if you started cold approaching random bitches.
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>>33770039
>Outside

Buddy, I can only really go to get gas and go to the grocery store, and they're ain't nothing to do in this bum -hick town anyway so I just stay at home and watch anime.

>talk to girls

And get written up by HR or get called a creep? No thank you, pal. Look, I know this is going to sound extremely cringe, but here goes: I've been attracted to Hatsune Miku since I was 15 so I got a body pillow of her and just cuddle and kiss that as a "GF substitute". It's quite nice, honestly. IDGAF anymore what normies think.
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>>33770020
It is not easy. You just don't see the work they put into it
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>>33770020
What do you actually do? If you are not socialising with girls in the flesh, you are not doing anything meaningful towards getting a gf.
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Have you ever asked a girl out or created a dating site account? No? It sounds like you don't want a girlfriend.
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Just talk to them.
It's literally that easy.

>>33770069
Are you in the same "indoors" as they are?
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>>33770020
You just see the result, but not the process
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because your standards are too low due to not having confidence
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>>33770039
Lol at the cope and seethe this very simple question generated.
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>>33770039
lol people really need to stop giving advice to these people. Replies to this are exactly as expected.
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>>33770020
It took me years to figure this out. You need to make the effort
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>>33770020
Because you're ugly and mentally ill. The main symptom of Schizophrenia is the inability to even perceive you have it. This results in you thinking you're normal and allows for false hopes of someday magically getting a normal girlfriend. This is totally wrong, because normal women don't date creeps/weirdos/sad/lonely crack-ups like you. You repulse them. You give them the yuck. The only women you'll be able to date are fat medicated ugly psychotic slags you'll meet at the psych-ward and even then, I'm not sure you'll be desperate enough to date those cause just like you they shower once a week, don't brush their teeth, don't take care of their appearance, and overall just make you want to throw up from their ugliness and mental-illness ridden personality.

The sooner you accept this reality, the better it'll be.
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>>33770020
>why is it so hard for me
>Me
Shouldn't you be able to answer that question by yourself though? If you have enough mental capacity to post pointless threads on 4chan, shouldn't you be able to critically analyze your life circumstances (without devolving into rumination ane self-pity) in a way that could lead you to a decent enough explanation for why you're unable to attract a woman (yet). If you're one of those >>33770069 >>33770504 it's safe to assume that you have turned into a full bitter and cynic moron who is not in a good place mentally to attract anyone and probably is quite annoying to be around. If you aren't then you may be better off listen to the "normie" advice that is often repeatedly on this board ad nauseum because, it turns out, many of them really work (who would've guessed) or, if you wish to go down the ~Le blackpilled doomer incel whatever route, you can keep posting one pointless thread after another and waste your life away on the internet.
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>>33771271
The worse kind of people are the ones that assume shit without even starting to know anything about what they are talking about.

He struggles to find a girlfriend so he has schizophrenia? Are you fucking kidding?

Do you even know him? I bet no.

People can loose their heads once in a while, being excessive and all and then settle down. Try and have a bad time once your lifetime, having events treating you like shit non stop for a while and see how that goes for you.

>>33771295
His advice is decent, I differ in thinking there a ton of of different people and just as many that may fit one another's misfits.

For op, if you have a craving for this, you'll know, and it'll keep eating at you until you get what you want, so start digging. Anyways it reminds me I also have shit I need to strive forwards to.
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>>33770039
OP, BTFO with two simple questions.
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>>33770039
>>33770839
>>33770941
>>33771025
>just go talk to girls bro
I'm 6'2" fit and successful and this has only ever helped me get a girlfriend, once
Women, fuck it people in general sort the opposite sex into "would" and "won't" buckets pretty quickly. Most men put most women into the "would" category and can't understand that is not the case with how most women see most men. Hence we get retarded advice like "just go talk to girls" because of moons that live in some fantasy land thinking that some magical word spell will shift a woman's attraction for you when she already has preferences for what she wants for casual sex, a relationship, etc.
>>33770726
>>33771027
They're not "doing" anything, the "work" is them being low inhibition midwits and nitwits who are more able to relate to women who statistically cluster around the middle of the bell curve. Niggers and delinquents who would be lynched in better societies. Our society has been niggerfied and feminized so why are you surprised females have been more socialized to like nigger like, effeminate, and fatherless behavior?
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>>33771741
>He struggles to find a girlfriend so he has schizophrenia? Are you fucking kidding?
That's not the reason.
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It’s impossible to say without knowing you, OP.

Do you put yourself in social situations to actually talk to people? Are you confident in who you are and clear about your intentions?

Those are two key things for getting a girlfriend without coming across as needy. Also, keep in mind that a lot of people stay in low-value relationships simply because they don’t want to be alone.

I wouldn’t exactly call my situation with women “easy,” but I don’t overthink it either.
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is this true?.
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>>33771793
Then enlighten me. As far as I know only doctors can tell whether someone has a mental issue or not.

I keep my stance, I think >>33771295
is correct because he doesn't make assumptions based on habits (admitting he does spend his time on 4chan) but tells him to get his shit together. Which answer in your opinion will have the better outcome in an "advice" board? His.
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>>33771862
It's even worse than you think.
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>>33770020
At least one the following
-Your standards are too high (e.g. "I refuse to settle for some post-wall roastie, I deserve only a 10/10 bla bla bla"
-Your standards are unrealistic (e.g. you're some introvert shut-in who expects that his should be some extrovert party animal and social butterlfy
-You fell for the "money gets you a girlfriend" meme, when you should've been practicing your social skills
-You lack social skills and charism
-You're boring, you don't have a lifestyle or any real interests, and as such have nothing to talk about with women
-You dress weird
-You look funny

>>33770069
>>33770504
mental illness

You don't have to cold approach to talk to girls. I've never done cold approach.

Again, that's for actual NPC dudes that have nothing in their lives beyond work/sleep and have nothing to talk about with girls so all they know is "I think you look good please give phone number"
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>>33771789
incels love to post about number, especially numbers about their bank account and their height or what their PR is at the gym and especially jpegs of graphs that they treat like a woman's horoscope.

It's never, and never will be, "100% of men are unable to get a girl" and yet every jpeg of a 15 year old graph gets treated as such.

You have no lifestyle or personality. You're boring and have nothing to talk about.
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>>33771789
I'm 5'7" and unfit and have had several girlfriends. I wonder what the difference between you and me is.
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>>33771741
>>33771894
You're literally demonstrating here the anosognosia symptom of schizophrenia. That's why it's underdiagnosed. Because people think nothing is wrong with them and never care to see the doctor. Or worse, they live with false, objectively unattainable goals like OP and then wonder why they become clinically depressed.
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>>33771952
>getting a gf
>false, objectively unattainable goals like OP
lol
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>>33771980
If you're not in the top 15% of men it's basically impossible. Unless you like getting utterly humiliated by asking out girls that are guaranteed to reject you.
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>>33771952
>>33771980
I audibly keked at this as well
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>>33771980
Getting a gf is not a goal. A goal is something concrete and clearly definable. OP does not want a girlfriend. He just wants to whine.
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>>33770020
How the fuck does she stand thier smell?
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>>33772005
>If you're not in the top 15% of men
it's fun to get mad at, or scared of, numbers that you made up in your head.

Even if it were true, which it's not, why the fuck would you not aim to be in the top 15%? Zoomers love to rank in the top of video game leaderboards, they love difficult video games with a challenge.

Why not just ignore this bullshit altogether and just talk to women?
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>>33771980
>>33772013
It's unattainable for him, not in general. If you have to ask how to get a girlfriend and haven't found one when you peaked during puberty, then yes, it's going to be a wild ride. And this is assuming OP wants a normal looking healthy girlfriend. He could probably find some fat ugly medicated goblina willing to be his girlfriend.
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>>33772050
>Getting a gf is not a goal. A goal is something concrete and clearly definable.
a girlfriend is a female human being who is in a romantic relationship with you and serves as a precursor for a potential wife.
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>>33771952

Dude, I have seen trisomic people with girlfriends.. Even if he has mental issues, he can find someone. Also if he posts here it is because he realizes there is something wrong.

I really don't know why you mention this particular sickness (chronic depression if it happens isn't necessarily linked to schizophrenia, it's called depression for a reason), particularly on an anonymous board where you don't even know the person.

There is also a marketing of psychic diseases nowadays that didn't exist before (ADHD, BPD, etc..). It's pretty much like ads, you hammer it on people until you get them to buy your stuff.

He can go to a doctor if he sees fit, maybe it'll help. In this thread he only wines about how hard it is to have a girlfriend. And normal people give advice, they don't stigmatize nor insult others.
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>>33772070
>He could probably find some fat ugly medicated goblina willing to be his girlfriend.
That's still a girlfriend, like I said you need realistic standards.
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>>33772005
How do you define who is in this "top 15% of men"? What objective classification do you use, to say someone is in the top 10% or 15% or 20%? Again, objective. Show your math.
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>>33772071
A goal is something concrete. You did not understand. "I will win the lottery" is not a goal either. It is something where what you have to do is clearly defined.
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>>33772099
lotto is pure luck
getting a girlfriend is skill, practice, and learning from your mistakes - as well as other people's mistakes.
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>>33772086
Problem is your body is attracted to healthy partners that will give you healthy offspring. Mentally ill people like OP will not settle for dysgenic women, because their brains are trained to seek good-looking mates. That's why models are models and why everyone finds them attractive. Usually, ugly people find ugly partners not because of attraction but because they want an object to stick their dick in or to increase income. OP should question what exactly he wants.
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>>33772113
You still have to buy a lottery ticket to win. Chad will buy the lottery ticket. The incel will whine that he never had a chance and Chad was given the lottery win for free without trying. Which is not true, obviously, but incels are so dumb they believe their own delusions.
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>>33772162
>That's why models are models and why everyone finds them attractive.
No they don't. A lot of people find models to be bogged and unhealthy (in the past they were too skinny, and now they're all fat and transgender). Soulless plastic faces.
>Mentally ill people like OP will not settle for dysgenic women, because their brains are trained to seek good-looking mates.
I see mentally ill people in mental illness couples all the time.
and "ugly people" date each other because they're actual people with beliefs and ideals and lifestyles and interests that get along with each other. It doesn't matter how how or good looking your gf is - she WILL grow old and ugly and probably also fat just like everyone else. Guys too.

>increase income
your incel NPC dialogue is very strong.
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>>33770020
>Why is it so hard for me to get a girlfriend while it seems easy for others to get one?
You spent most of your life perfecting the art of avoiding social interactions. You now need to unlearn all of that and learn how to interact with people.
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>>33772207
People who find models ugly are just jealous. If you go on porn sites, are the most popular videos with ugly people? Why don't producers make porn vids with ugly people, since there are more of them and they are cheaper to hire than good-looking people? Ugly or mentally ill people date because they don't want to be alone, not because of attraction. They still masturbate to good-looking people. And the "grow old" argument is gonna be the same thing. The couple will stay together because there is no other alternative at that point. Will still masturbate to good-looking people. And for the income, your reply reveals you haven't left your parents' basement yet.

Feel free to replace the "ugly and mentally ill people I know" with the personal pronoun "I" to alleviate your next post.
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>>33772084
>People with schizophrenia may have poor interpersonal skills. They are sometimes unable to show emotion and may have difficulty initiating a conversation or participating in other activities. Personal hygiene may deteriorate, and some people experience a decline in cognitive functioning, including difficulty with attention, memory, the speed of mental processing, and problem solving.
Do you suffer from any of these too?
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>>33772293
>People who find models ugly are just jealous.
This isn't remotely true. And the fact you think porn actresses count as "models" shows just how fucking stupid you are.
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>>33772293
Oh wow. Your post is a load of wishful thinking. I'm guessing you haven't talked to a real human face to face since high school.
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>>33772293
>People who find models ugly are just jealous.
Why would I be jealous of models? Their lives are a nightmare. I didn't say that I find all of them ugly, just that most of them have that obviously plastic looks and dead look to their eyes. More importantly there's likely nothing going between their ears other than "I like shoes and cocaine".
>If you go on porn sites, are the most popular videos with ugly people?
I wouldn't know i haven't been on porn sites in years.
Last I checked it was actually a mixed bag since people who do porn aren't exactly known for the beauty of their eyes or the subtle shape of their nose. There was plenty of cute-looking girls, and plenty of not-cute-at-all-looking ones. Some skinny ones, some hamplanets. Some young ones, some older ones, some very old ones. Some short ones, some tall ones.

> And for the income, your reply reveals you haven't left your parents' basement yet.
and why is that?
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>>33771295
Lol, it's not about just getting any bitch, you fucking retard. You want someone that's similar to you, but the problem is that female creatures who are 5/10, won't date guys who are 5/10 also because of hypergamy in 2025. You're telling OP to fuck ugly bitches or fat bitches. Nobody with self-respect wants to do that.
/thread
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>>33770020
Because you're too serious, you must realise that women and stupid and you must act like a fool to get one, treat them like children
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>>33772335
>hypergamy
hypergamy is when a girl has been with more than 0 guys, guys who aren't me.
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>>33772319
Yes, it's true. Keep coping because you're ugly/fat whatever. I never said they were models, I said they were good-looking. And the fact people privately masturbate to exclusively good-looking people while publicly coping like you with "big is beautiful" is just funny.
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>>33770445
>I don't like when stuff gets too naughty, it feels nasty. I
Gay
But I agree with the rest of your post. Still looking for my cutie patootie
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>>33772347
>I said they were good-looking. And the fact people privately masturbate to exclusively good-looking people
famous good-looking man Ron Jeremy, known for his extremely large good looks
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>>33772347
Hey yall, this nigga is looking at women's faces when jacking off! he gay! Bro, tell us who has the best eyelashes in porn! Who done their nails the best?
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>>33772347
>And the fact people privately masturbate to exclusively good-looking people while publicly coping like you with "big is beautiful" is just funny.
https://www.pornhub.com/video/search?search=categories+bbw
?
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>>33770020
>Why is it so hard for me to get a girlfriend while it seems easy for others to get one?
Are you a loser? Be honest
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>>33772367
Not going to click your NSFW spam link that would by the way easily fall into reportable offense if I was ill-intentioned towards people like you. But anyway, I will assume you posted a search query about Big Beautiful Women as some sort of "gotcha" reply. To which I will respond with: I don't care about that, nor do I care about scat videos or other twisted fetishes caused by mental illnesses. My point was that the most popular videos all have good-looking people and guess what, my point still stands. Thank you.
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>>33771862
>that passive agressive "higher-than-thou"
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>>33772311
Hmm I am quite talkative but pragmatic. I don't engage in conversation just to talk endlessly although when I chill I like to get to know who I am talking to.

I like to a certain degree share experiences and I do certainly have empathy for people.

I can have excellent concentration skills and focus on details in quiet environments so attention deficit isn't a problem. I don't like being dirty, I can bear with it for some time but even in bad conditions I like to keep decent appearances.

Speed of mental processing and memory processing is okay, I can drive a car, I can answer adverts, I can find work and I can find some answers to some problems.

I can forget things that happened a while ago, or if under too much pressure. But in normal circumstances I can recall pretty much everything.

Anyways, as far as for OP's request for advice, one thing that I thought is that envying people doesn't work too well. Focusing on bettering yourself and putting necessities first while keeping your goals (let's say find a girlfriend) in the back of your head tends to work well (it does for me at least), it can just take a while.
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>>33771789
>I'm 6'2" fit and successful
This automatically puts you in the top 10% of men. Are you horrifically ugly? Are you brown? Very stinky?
Because something smells like bullshit about your entire post.
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>>33772446
>My point was that the most popular videos all have good-looking people
according to who?

You, who is ignorant and terrified of the most mainstream normie porn site?

You genuinely only look at porn for people's faces? Do you even look at porn? Where, if not pornhub?
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>>33772473
>>I'm 6'2" fit and successful
>This automatically puts you in the top 10% of men.
none of that even really matters.

There are tons of barely-competent dad-bod and outright fat goblins out there getting girls.

Because they have social skills, and a social life, and also just a life in general beyond just posting made-up numbers on 4chan as an excuse as to why they can't talk to women.
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>>33772473
>I'm 6'2" fit and successful
>This automatically puts you in the top 10% of men.
Most men are "successful", that just puts him in the not bottom 50%.
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>>33770020
You might have a shit personality. All of my friends that are decent people and pleasant to be around have girlfriends or are married. My friends that have an off putting personality and complain about women 24/7 are still single.
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>>33772718
It might not be a "shit" personality, as much as, one that's just not sexually overt/aggressive enough. A lot of people end up in situations where their luck runs out and they can't get anything without pushing things harder than they're socially conditioned to, which might be OP.
Not an easy thing to fix at all, BTW
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>>33773052
>It might not be a "shit" personality
No it's a shit personality, look at the autism posts about Chad and sexual market index value and how only the top whatever % of men get a gf and all that shitpill nonsense
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>>33771947
Sorry I took so long to respond, been getting ready for a 12 hour roadtrip don't have time to monitor threads obsessively but interesting response.
>You have no lifestyle or personality. You're boring and have nothing to talk about.
I cook as a hobby, I own like a dozen cookbooks in addition to hundreds of novels and nonfiction books because I like to read. I garden and have an active container garden right now that I'm winding down for winter. I fish, hunt, forage, and do all kinds of outdoorsy shit like camping/hiking/climbing. I've scaled El Capitan even. I also cosplay and make my costumes, I participate in con culture and like vintage weeb shit. I do ham radio from time to time and have made my own SDR radios. Parlo un po d'Italiano. I have a VERY interesting career in defense contracting. And obviously I like to travel.
Hobbies are irrelevant though, a red herring. Fucking adult women who should be having babies were gushing over LABUBUS the other day in front of me in a gas station. Fucking Chinese toys.
>>33771950
>I'm 5'7" and unfit and have had several girlfriends.
I've had several girlfriends too. That doesn't mean you can magically just start pulling by shooting your shot with every chick you like, even if you jump on the IMPROOVER hamsterwheel. I've begun to revert to being a fat alcoholic bastard since I've given up looking and I'm getting MORE attention from women now than when I was at my fittest.
I wonder what the difference between you and me is.
You're probably a lot dumber and therefore more able to relate to women who statistically cluster around the median IQ. I've literally had girls think I was "making fun of them by using big words" because I employed my normal lexicon.
>>33772621
Now this is stats-ism at its highest. Refer to the chart if you will. >>33771789
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>>33773234
It’s a shit personality and a lack of confidence, having one or the other makes your chances of getting laid skyrocket (at least for young men, shit personality high confidence tends to get filtered out with age), these people just believe that there’s no use in trying anything because they've convince themselves the world is shit.
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>>33770020
Because they themselves have gone through development that you have not.
You need to be more confident in yourself
>But how
Expose yourself to situations that make you uncomfortable, learn that they aren't that big a deal, learn to be more comfortable outside your comfort zone, rinse and repeat
>Ok now that I am more confident now what
Literally nothing. You need nothing else but confidence in yourself when approaching a girl. Your chances of getting a girl go from 0-something just by asking someone on a date
>But how do I maximise my chances of her saying yes
Work out
Earn money and buy nice clothes/accessories/car/apartment etc.
Be interesting (Dont be boring, conceal your power level and dont sound like you're obsessed with niche interests she isnt interested in)

Its really simple in theory its just the first key life activity (e.g. sleeping, shitting, eating, playing, learning) that doesn't come automatically and takes a bit of effort, and that seems to put people in a deadlock
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>>33771947
>>33771950
>>33772621
>>33773276
And just to clarify, except for that one instance where I did meet a girl at a social thing, shot my shot, and it worked out, all of my girlfriends have either
>been from dating apps where mutual interest is usually a given on the first date
> Girls who have APPROACHED ME and even though they didn't ask me out, they made it so painfully obvious
"Just go talk to girls and ask them out" is terrible, terrible advice. Girls in this day and age never lack for want of dick thanks to The Phone.
As men yes we must be emotionally resilient, but the average dude was not designed for 100, 200, 1000 rejections, which is exactly what he'll fucking get. It's OBVIOUS if a girl likes you, they make it EASY. if it is not OBVIOUS AND EASY there is no fucking point and you're gonna get shot down over and over and get depressed.
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>>33772621
>Most men are "successful"
So most men in the West own their own house/apartment, own their own car, and have a high paying career?
lmao
Your definition of success must be wildly off-base.
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>>33773276
>I cook as a hobby, I own like a dozen cookbooks in addition to hundreds of novels and nonfiction books because I like to read. I garden and have an active container garden right now that I'm winding down for winter. I fish, hunt, forage, and do all kinds of outdoorsy shit like camping/hiking/climbing. I've scaled El Capitan even. I also cosplay and make my costumes, I participate in con culture and like vintage weeb shit. I do ham radio from time to time and have made my own SDR radios. Parlo un po d'Italiano. I have a VERY interesting career in defense contracting. And obviously I like to travel.
not bad, the only thing relevant would be books and cosplay/anime. Cooking is fine but it's hardly a passion for people outside of professional chefs. I'm sure you think defense contracting is super interesting, but it's not to 99.99999% of women

>Hobbies are irrelevant though, a red herring. Fucking adult women who should be having babies were gushing over LABUBUS the other day in front of me in a gas station. Fucking Chinese toys.

What do you suppose adult women should be interested in? This isn't anything new, 30 years ago we had furbies and beany babies.


>>33773305
>Girls in this day and age never lack for want of dick thanks to The Phone.
Cope. Before dating app and smart phones, girls would just go out to anywhere like the arcade or the mall or night clubs or skate parks or warehouse raves or whatever house parties and go find dudes there.
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>>33773351
>Cope. Before dating app and smart phones, girls
That's my point, dawg. That time I got a chick in a mutual social group was back in 2011 (at a fucking brony meetup lol, that helped as we were the hottest guy and girl in the room so we gravitated a bit from the fat autists to each other lol)
The game has changed so much, and I'm not even complaining anymore, I don't care. Just trying to save other young men the heartache. Every woman I meet IRL who appears interested in me now is
>trying to get my money
>trying to cheat
>trying to use me to advance their professional career
>just wants attention and another orbiter
I'm kinda done man.
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>>33772478
>according to who?
https://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a
nta btw, but I genuinely don't know why you're arguing with him when you can just use your own source to look up the all time most viewed videos and see his point stands. Yeah, some people like different things, but as a guy who is into BBW's you'll find it's much less common than guys into regular sized women.
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>>33773376
>That's my point, dawg. That time I got a chick in a mutual social group was back in 2011 (at a fucking brony meetup
well bronies are still around
and anime and cons are bigger than ever

>Every woman I meet IRL who appears interested in me now is
>>trying to get my money
>>trying to cheat
>>trying to use me to advance their professional career
>>just wants attention and another orbiter
>I'm kinda done man.
what makes you say that?
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>>33773276
>Refer to the chart if you will.
I don't know what that chart for ants refers to but I'm sure it is complete and utter bullshit and only desperate low IQ incels would use it as a crutch to justify for their choice to be incels.
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>>33770039
Easy bait and switch. Incels are so fucking embarrassing

And the funny shit is when you take these cretins outside of their elements and bring them to a place where girls are at, they either don't interact or act like disgruntled brunt losers who expect results for simply talking to them.

There is a reason why a lot of people have given up on them a long time ago, and it's because they are a lost cause. They have no game.

>>33771789
Destiny is a 5'8 manlet with a paunch goblin body, and he was able to bag all of these bitches and constantly target 18-year-olds. He just knows how to manipulate and talk with girls.
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>>33773405
>nta btw, but I genuinely don't know why you're arguing with him when you can just use your own source to look up the all time most viewed videos and see his point stands.
Because those aren't models.

I can't believe I have to explain this but people do not watch pornography for the shape of someone's nose or eye sockets and all the other subtle features that determine standard facial attraction for actual models.
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>>33773471
Why are the most popular videos with good-looking women then? Why do people have favorite porn stars and why are the most popular porn stars good-looking? What do japanese men masturbate to when the genitals are blurred in Japanese porn?
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>>33773461
He fucked Brittany Venti?
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>>33770039
Based.

Girls only care about two things:

You existing
You talking to them, ideally with them


You lifting xy
Your bf%
Your money
Your looks
Your sense for humor


All worthless if they dont know you exist.

Which results in things like op post and many others I saw while I was single and sad.

Then I started going out and talking to girls and found several gfs.

Shits easy yall are just cowards.
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>>33773525
>Why are the most popular videos with good-looking women then? Why do people have favorite porn stars and why are the most popular porn stars good-looking?
They're good-looking by porn standards.

Ron Jeremy is/was a fat fuckin greasy balding slob and he's the most famous porn star. I guess zoomers wouldn't know who he is, but even zoomer-era porn stars like Mia Khalifa or whatever look good, but they're nothing crazy.

As good-looking as anyone in porn might be, or as ugly as they might be for that matter, the majority of porn is the cameraman trying to wedge himself in the mix so he can get the girl's pussy and asshole as well as the guy's dick and balls and asshole all in frame.

>What do japanese men masturbate to when the genitals are blurred in Japanese porn?

same as watching softcore porn in the west - tits and ass. The act of sex itself. That annoying sound japanese girls make during sex sounding like a basket full of cats.

Probably also feet and armpits and whatever else they might be into.
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>>33771789

How many conversations with women do you start per week?
There you go.
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I'm taking a wild guess here but guys who visit and go to a Laotian unicycle riding message board for advice are probably socially retarded to some unappreciable degree.
At the end of the day, humans are social creatures and no amount of desired physical qualities or financial resources can make up for a lack of social/communication skills.
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>>33770020
I don't know about you. But since I'm a 28 years old kissless virgin, I will go straight to the point
>You're boring
>You're mid or either ugly
>You're weird or a creep, females notice how much of a virgin are you by a mile
>You barely go outside
>You are not ugly, but your friends mogs you in both in personality and eye test
>You can barely talk to women
>Your social circle is incredibily small and you can't meet anyone from that circle.
I complete 6/7 about that list. What about you, OP?
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One thing that's pretty consistent on this board is, people who have never really had to undo disappointment after disappointment creating hard to overcome self-image and expectation problems claiming that it's "easy" for everyone because for them, it actually was. Psychological death spirals don't get undone overnight, social circles aren't "fair" and perfectly gender distributed to where yours will guarantee you're constantly talking to new women you have common ground with just because you're leaving your house to do things, and the cold hard truth is that not everyone is going to be able to find partnership that doesn't just make things worse easily.

Probably the only thing I can think of that might actually help is
>stop gooning and watching porn, entirely
>stop going to demoralization boards like this
>realize that you probably need to completely change your personality somehow to get out of the situation you're in
>do things that physically scare you, where you might actually die, to reconnect with the value of life itself
but, the caveat is that even those aren't guaranteed to actually work. but the older you get with nothing, the more you realize hail marys might be the only viable option
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>>33773721
>complete 6/7 about that list. What about you, OP?
based self-aware anon
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>>33773771
I accepted my own ridiculousness long time ago.
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>>33773461
Drug addicted BPD demons will fuck just about anything for attention, money and/or drugs. It just so happens Destiny could provide all of those.
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>>33770039
Where do you this in your mids 20s beside college?

>inb4 take pottery/dance classes bro!
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>>33771025
>pic
i thought the whole point of metoo was that you didn't want us to talk to you. can't have your cake and eat it too
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>>33773461
"Game" is fucking retarded and should be phased out of society. Luckily, with AI etc it looks like that's happening.
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>>33773295
>Be interesting (Dont be boring
I gave up on the game when I realized this was a strictly male requirement and most chicks' personalities, tastes and interests start and end at what they see on their social media feeds.
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>>33773461
I have a body like that except I'm 6'1" with shoes. I used to be fitter but tendonitis struck and stopped me in my tracks. I have never ever been able to feel even somewhat confident about my body with a girl.

OH I also have pectus excavatum
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>>33770039
where would i go?
how would i do this?
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>>33773770
Most of my memories from my 20s and 30s are actually traumatic as well. Oh well
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>>33774007
Nobody will ever give you the answer, the truth is there is nowhere. Most relationships outside of apps today are formed in school or friend groups.

Redditors just say go outside or take a shower and look like pic related
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>>33773935
>>inb4 take pottery/dance classes bro!
join whatever clubs and take whatever classes of things you would be interested in.

The worst thing you can do is obviously be out of place at a thing you don't want to be at as you clearly try to hit on women.

When you're comfortable in your element and enjoying yourself, women are attracted to that.

>>33773952
the whole point of metoo was exposing a certain (((movie producer))) and others who went around molesting and raping everyone all the time

why do you feel targeted by that

especially when that was like 9 years ago
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>>33774034
>the whole point of metoo was exposing a certain (((movie producer))) and others who went around molesting and raping everyone all the time
it blew up into way more than just that. it turned into a witch hunt. don't be disingenuous.
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>>33774007
>>33774027
reposted from another thread
>>Anyways besides the obvious of having met girls at bars, clubs, and also in class and around college I also met them at record stores, actual music stores where they sell instruments, bookstores especially used book stores, free movie/documentary movie nights at a university I didn't attend but it was open to everyone, concerts, sometimes even just on the train/bus.
in the context of "be someone interesting with relatable hobbies and interests"

Of course if all you fuckin do is work-gym-sleep with the occasional hours-long 4chan sessions then you have nowhere to go and also nothing to talk about.
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>>33774007
If you're motivated:
>short courses on colleges
>gyms
>language classes
>volunteering
>medieval fairs???
>church
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>>33774034
Give some examples? What clubs/classes have a decent ratio of women?

I do a bunch of social hobbies/classes. The problem is they're 99% male
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>>33774034
>join whatever clubs and take whatever classes of things you would be interested in
There's a caveat that people giving this advice always neglect to mention: many of the things men are genuinely interested in, primarily attract other men to them. I've seen this happen over and over again, where men have a lot of hobbies - but their social circles are almost entirely male, because they what they genuinely want to do and get good at, is also what a lot of other men want to do.
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>>33774048
no it didn't, you're like one of those people who claims to be a 9/11 victim because you had a LA-Tokyo flight on September 10th that you cancelled and it somehow could've been you on those planes headed the complete opposite direction on a completely different day

You just want to feel like a victim.
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>>33770020
Everyone got lucky with playing the numbers game before you did. Then again, most men don't even play the numbers game anymore and just give up early.
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>>33774071
Yeah, that's my problem

>>33774067
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>>33774063
>I also met them at record stores
i don't have a record player and don't plan on getting one
>actual music stores where they sell instruments
i already have a keyboard in my room that i got off amazon, so i have no reason to go to one of those
>bookstores especially used book stores
i don't read books, so also no reason to go to those
>free movie/documentary movie nights at a university I didn't attend but it was open to everyone
cringe. only people that go to that school should be going to those types of events. it's fucking weird otherwise
>concerts
no friends to go with
>sometimes even just on the train/bus
creep behavior. keep to yourself like a decent, polite person
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>>33774067
>>33774071
It literally doesn't matter if it's all dudes everywhere all the time, as long as you make friends and have a regular social life you will somehow stumble into some girl as someone's cousin or a friend of a friend of a friend or you going out with your new guy best friend and meeting two girls who share the same hobbies as you.

You're not gonna meet anyone anywhere by just staying indoors mad on the internet.

and there are almost no more male-exclusive hobbies. Nerds have been complaining about that for decades.
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>>33774078
it literally did you retard. did you live under a rock?
>false accusations borne out of a climate of hysteria can't exist
ok buddy
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>>33774087
What do you want us to say, that you're doomed to be a incel forever?
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>>33774104
dunno t.bh. just wanted to point out that "go outside" isn't great advice
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>>33774099
I train MMA and while i'm pretty close with the guys there, they don't do much outside of it due to work and spending time with their gfs/family. I have 0 friends outside of that
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>>33774016
Yeah, so you can safely ignore the college kids telling you that it's easy. Because, again, it genuinely is easy for them. That ship has sailed for us, and there's no easy solution. It's one of the tough realities of adulthood, and part of where this era is so rough on many people mentally - people don't get into committed relationships because they think they have all the time in the world, ignoring that it really doesn't get any easier. I don't think there's no hope whatsoever, but again, it's heavily dependent on luck and it gets harder the older you are.
>>33774099
>You're not gonna meet anyone anywhere by just staying indoors mad on the internet
You're attacking a strawman and ignoring just how luck-based exactly what you described is.
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>>33774087
you have no friends and you're trying to tell me what is or isn't weird/creepy.
Besides I went to more concerts by myself than I ever did with friends.
There's nothing weird about going to open events anywhere, whether it's a church basement or a university campus or whatever else. These people are trying to raise money or raise awareness or whatever, they want people at their thing.

what do you do for fun on weekends then?

You have a keyboard, what do you do with it?
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>>33774103
how many times were you accused of rape during me too?

(it was zero times)
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>>33774125
>There's nothing weird about going to open events anywhere
for the first time ever i tried doing this the saturday before this past saturday, and i had an awful time and left pretty soon after i arrived. i talked to one person for like 20 seconds, and was sweating bullets from my anxiety the whole time. i was freaking out over it in my car driving back to my place, like yelling at myself and shit
>what do you do for fun on weekends then?
get high and drunk alone in my room and game and goon and talk to my internet friends
>You have a keyboard, what do you do with it?
play it for 15-20 min every few days. pretty pathetic, i know. i try to cope by telling myself it's better than nothing, but...
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>>33774118
>just how luck-based exactly what you described is.
what do you mean luck based?
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>>33774118
I think ages 18-24 suck for a man because of lack of experience and money, and 25-29 is a golden age. After that everything sucks. My mind is too far gone
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>>33774142
it happened to others. i saw it all play out on the internet and in the media. women made it very very clear that they didn't want men approaching them
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>>33774117
>I train MMA
as a career?

What do you do to relax on weekends?
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>>33774152
>for the first time ever i tried doing this the saturday before this past saturday, and i had an awful time and left pretty soon after i arrived. i talked to one person for like 20 seconds, and was sweating bullets from my anxiety the whole time. i was freaking out over it in my car driving back to my place, like yelling at myself and shit
I'm sorry to hear that but clearly the event was no the issue here, it's your general/social anxiety
>get high and drunk alone in my room and game and goon and talk to my internet friends

I'd recommend you go get drunk/high at a barcade or something, if there's any in your neck of the woods.
>play it for 15-20 min every few days. pretty pathetic, i know. i try to cope by telling myself it's better than nothing, but...

but trying to do what, play classical, do epic rap beats?
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>>33774166
I work in construction. During the winter not a whole lot, playing videos games and play guitar(which im horrible at). During the summer I like to go on a hike or riding my motorcycle somewhere on the weekends
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>>33774165
>it happened to others. i saw the planes hit the two towers out on the internet and in the media. It was very clear that I should never ever ride an airplane ever again.
See what I mean?
You're a victim of nothing. You're trying to claim other people's misery as your own.

People were still dating and being in relationships and having casual sex and threesomes and orgies even if Weinstein was being put on trial and whoever the fuck else like Louis CK was exposed as someone who jacked off during business meetings.
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>>33774178
>I'm sorry to hear that but clearly the event was no the issue here, it's your general/social anxiety
the worst part is that i'm on 3 antidepressants kek
>I'd recommend you go get drunk/high at a barcade or something, if there's any in your neck of the woods.
ngl i've never gone drinking in a bar before. what if i catch a DUI on the drive back to my place?
>but trying to do what, play classical, do epic rap beats?
some jazz, some classical, some rap stuff that has piano in it, some video game stuff
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>>33774196
i just saw what the women were saying and reacted accordingly. i literally did what they asked. as a result, i've never flirted in my life
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>>33772331
>why would I be jealous of models, they are all vapid whores just like in my Hollywood flicks

2000s called, they want their cliches back.
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>>33774211
>what if i catch a DUI on the drive back to my place?
well don't drive then, if there's no trains/buses they got taxis and 12 different ride-sharing apps these days, unless you really live out in the sticks.

Just have a couple of beers with some food and learn to play pool or something

>some jazz, some classical, some rap stuff that has piano in it, some video game stuff
collecting records would be right up your alley - I don't mean like spending 80$ to buy like a Pink Floyd album or something but digging through all the discount bins at record stores and also thrift shops finding weird shit that's out of print in another language from another country - or just really old stuff from the 1930s and 40s. There's all sorts of piano and jazz music in those bins.

Even non-musical records of like educational material and radio plays and whatever is cool stuff, seems like sampling would be right up your alley.
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>>33774248
they weren't saying that, they weren't saying it to you, and they weren't personally asking you to do anything.

>i've never flirted in my life
so what excuse did you have before 2018? How come everyone else is and was fine flirting and dating and everything?
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>>33774289
Please if you could point me in the direction of a model who's really into ecology, philosophy, or the history of jazz or anything that's not just fashion that would be great.
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>>33774378
Look up Rachel Pizzolato. She’s a model and also studies aeronautical engineering. Or Jilissa Zoltko, who works part time as a lawyer. You know, actually useful careers and not pointless autistic shit like a list of obscure jazz musicians from the 20th century. Also what’s with the assumption that women can’t be into things like fashion and also smart? That’s like saying that a guy who likes gaming in his free time can’t work as a marine biologist.
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Lot of “what ifs” in this thread and NONE of them are “what if this advice works and I get a girlfriend.” That’s when the real problems start
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>>33774646
one thing at a time homie
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>>33774364
>so what excuse did you have before 2018? How come everyone else is and was fine flirting and dating and everything?
that rhetoric didn't pop out of nowhere. for all of my teenage years i was very focused on not coming off as a creep. i still am in my mid-20s
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>>33770020
the answer is universally "size of social circle"
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>>33774063
See I don’t think that’s true. I know a guy who spends most of his free time at the gym working out or gaming and he has an absolutely huge social circle including lots of very attractive girls. He doesn’t do any of that “go to activities to meet people” yet he almost effortlessly has what most friendless incels would kill for.
>he must be tall and handsome
He’s actually a manlet though a very nice dude. And while he isn’t ugly he ain’t no male model though he’s in pretty good shape.
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>>33770020
u js needa up ur game or go gay
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>>33774063
Not OP but my issue is that I mention camping and volunteering but that's all I got and then I am out of stuff for talk about, I'm blank, I'm boring plus I have my days: Some days I like my body, some days I hate it
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>>33770020
>Why is it so hard for me to get a girlfriend
you're white
>it seems easy for others to get one
they're black
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>>33775030
I am brown and can't get a girlfriend
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>>33774071
suggesting hobbies is to placate you into being so invested in your hobbies that you forget about the original circumstances that lead you there.
they also ignore the fact that majority male social circles will scare women away.
>>33773461
destiny used his power, and his misuse of that power is why he is up on multiple charges.
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>>33770020
as someone who was clueless about it in his early 20s and now gets pussy on a consistent basis (i just got back home from taking a girl to her house after we fucked at my place), the trick is to know people, to be charming and to be confident
I'm a 6,5 at best but ever since I carried myself with confidence I always have someone interested in me, many girls at times
of course some of those girls are not that pretty and I've been shallow ever since I was a little kid, so I don't fuck every girl that likes me but anyways
talk to more people, specially people who knows other people
be open to meet new people, go out of your comfort zone, places and music you're not used to
practice gfs are a thing, the first gf I kissed for minutes on end was not that attractive (a 5,5) but with her I was confident and relaxed to do as I pleased, if anything went wrong, nothing of value was lost.
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>>33774878
>he has an absolutely huge social circle
from where though
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>>33774645
>Also what’s with the assumption that women can’t be into things like fashion and also smart?
most women are into fashion, but most women aren't models, and most models aren't engineers and attorneys they're just models with only fashion on their mind
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>>33770020
Try going outside.
Whenever I go anywhere, girls outnumber guys 3 to 1.
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>>33775273
Not OP but women scared me and make me fell insecure and afraid
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>>33770020
Why is this race baiting thread still up after 150 replies.
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>>33770020
chad only
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>>33775383
He isn't a Chad though lmao, Stacy will leave him soon enough
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>>33774196

Quit ignoring the fact that women are scum of the earth parasites who can very easily fuck over someone’s life because they have pussy pass? Get the fuck out of here man, you’re a lame wannabe chad acting like you’ve cracked the code on women and their hysterics. Truth is, all women are out to get something whether thats money or fame, and they’ll do anything to get that, especially screw over dudes. So quit trying to dismiss that guy’s very real concerns jackoff.
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>>33773952
metoo has nothing to do with this retard
women don't want fat/ugly/brown men to talk to them
if you're not in these categories then approach away!
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>>33775610
>ugly/brown
I'm not fat but I am skinny (37 kg) and in this third world shith whole is a symbol of weakness. How can I cope that I will die virgin without whining about it?
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>>33775098
>ever since I carried myself with confidence I always have someone interested in me, many girls at times
ah yes that old meaningless platitude "confidence" that no one can ever explain when it comes down to it

protip: incels are incredibly confident, that's why they stand up for their points of view and what women they deserve and remain persistent through everyone hating on them. their the definition of confidence. doesn't change things with women one bit
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>>33775175
That's the stupidest shit I've ever read. Meet more people.
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>>33775748
being confident anonymously online is pretty different to saying stupid shit outright to a person irl
you aren't brave, just fucked in the head
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>>33770504
depends on which country your in in the west its quite normal to do that no?
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>>33770020
Pray to God for one!
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>>33770020
>Why is it so hard for me to get a girlfriend while it seems easy for others to get one?
You likely have some sort of untreated developmental or mental disorder that makes socialization and courting women difficult for you. You may be an unpleasant arrogant redditor type. You may have been raised by and have the personality of your mother. You may be some sort of loser who has no self awareness or desire to change or do any introspection or growth. You may have done nothing with your life that turns you into a hale healthy human being. Most likely some combination of these. On top of all that, since this is 4chan, you probably avoid facing any of these facts by coping with middlebrow existential concepts like muh genes or we live in a society et al instead of doing anything proactive or productive.
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>>33771932
The fuck are you talking about, most women don't have a "lifestyle" or any interests other than consooming
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Whenever I've encountered guys that complain about struggling with getting women, the problem has always, and I mean ALWAYS without exception been the fault of the guy. They appear okey-ish at first but when you get to know them further you immediatly realise how fucking unpleasant, annoying and childish they are. I would have shot you if my daugther started dating you. You're an underdeveloped child with body hair.
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>>33770504
It was always luck.. you keep rolling the dice and your number comes up. You people would say rolling snake eyes is impossible because it only happens 2% of the time. Yet you play a game of monopoly and it comes up. A lot.

Play the fucking game and you hit. Sit inside on a computer complaining and you dont. This whole attitude "oh irs 2025 its hard now and wasn't before" is just an excuse so you dont have to blame yourself. Its no harder now than it ever was. What's harder now is to go on the internet without having your stupid wrong ideas affirmed. Go outside, have a social life, meet women.
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>>33775082
white, brown and asian can't get girlfriends because black men get them all
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There are some very decent bits of advice in here, but also a shitload of absolute, terminally online, borderline mentally ill BS.
If you can actually discern which is which, then there is hope for you.
>pro tip: any form of self victimization is not good aadvice

Also:
>language classes
That tip is fucking golden if your social circle is male dominated and/or small. I had to take one as I needed the credit, otherwise I would have never taken that shit. But they are full of all kinds of girls, including the elusive homebodies and shy types, but also very social (and hot) exchange students that just try to find some connection. It's also easy mode. It's a language class, you can not not talk to anyone, eventually you will be grouped up for practice and it's piss easy to keep talking from that. You are after that awkward initiation phase due to the class and now who you vibe with in your group. Just keep talking and see where it goes/if it goes anywhere.
Biggest caveat though, if you're past 30-35 this is not really an option anymore. You've aged out of it to work for that, simple as.
But for anyone under that it's the best place to be to meet some new people organically.

>fmale friends
Semi related to above. Always memed as cuck-like or beta. BS. Who knows the most women? Other women.
Why do you think Chad always has female friends? Easy access to fresh prospects and to garnish his social events to attract more Chads that bring their female friends. See how that works?

>confidence
Why do you not get what confidence is?
It's being knowledgable about your passions, without sperging out. It's excitement to share cool stuff without gaf what others think. It's just talking to people because they are just people, not to say the right shit to unlock a gf like a cheatcode.
Also sometimes it's walking into a place like you own it, or at least feel right at home there. Nothing else.
Caveat: Works best when young as teenage girls eat that shit up.
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>>33775819
>still can't even explain the very basics of how a person not born genetically gifted exudes confidence

proving my point
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>>33777079
See: >>33777069
I'd wager a princely sum that you've shown confidence at some point in your life too.
>within your hobby group
>a class you excelled at
>talking about some topic you really care about
>being in a group of people you were 100% comfortable with
>that sweet spot of being buzzed before showing it or being shitfaced
>getting the opportunity to use a niche skill or piece of knowledge that suddenly came in very handy
>how you handled yourself in a job you were really good at, even a lower end one
>....
Think about them, how you felt, how you acted and how you talked in them. That's confidence
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>>33776676
>most women don't have a "lifestyle" or any interests other than consooming
consuming what? Get off your pseudo anticapitalist podium for a second. Everyone's a consumer.

doing drugs is a lifestyle, not doing drugs is a lifestyle, being vegan is a lifestyle, being into hunting and fishing ins a lifestyle, being a turbo woke liberal is a lifestyle, being a crazy christian cunt is a lifestyle, being a furry is a lifestyle, etc.

what do you do?
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>>33775748
>protip: incels are incredibly confident
Thank you for giving me a hearty laugh today.

Incels are the most insecure, timid, and shy subculture ever.

Like the other anon said, yeah they make a bunch of noise online on anonymous vietnamese calligraphy bulletin boards about how they deserve a tattoo-free virgin gf who doesn't have a career of her own and whatever and how CHAAAAAAAD steals all the women because his Sexual Marketplace Index Value Credit Rating is a 10.5 and all that shit - but when it comes to the real world?

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>>33775748
>and what women they deserve
Top kek, and who might they be?
>inb4 tattoo-free and social media-free virgin tradwife
>who also somehow breaks her convictions to approach them and do all the work
>while they also complain about hypergamy and inflated female standards
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>>33777230
watching media and scrolling through apps

lmao you say it as if these are the things that make someone worth dating, if being a furry is a lifestyle then so is being a degenerate who does nothing but post irrelevant time wasting threads on 4chan
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>>33776699
lol of course it's harder now it ever was, stop gaslighting
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>>33777381
as if tattoo-free is some ridiculous standard to have
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>>33777994
Nice cherry pick anon, now try again and this time try taking away the larger meaning of the post.
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>every other guy nowadays is a loner
>there are virtually zero female virgins
>board is full of people arguing in bad faith and pretending this isn't true
if 80/20 isn't real who exactly is fucking all the women, aliens?
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>>33778152
gen z ain't fucking in general theyre afraid of their own shadow
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>>33776687
Okay, but "underdeveloped child with [shaven] body hair" describes the majority of taken women
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>>33773972
Men have to put effort into being interesting
And for many man, that actually involves no effort at all. They just wake up funny/smart/cool or some combination of the three.

Women have to put effort into being pretty and very few absolute unicorn goddess girls look that pretty waking up with a bedhead. All girls have to sit in front of a mirror for like 30 minutes before they leave the house applying face-paint

Theres pros and cons to being either
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With most guys you're not aiming low enough. I get that you don't want fat chicks or single moms, but you have to understand that its incredibly abnormal for men to have a choice in the matter. What's normal is men dating fat women despite being fit themselves, normal is taking care of a woman and her 3 kids who's dad is in prison, normal is dating bpdemons who will make your life hell.

Normies here will gaslight you into thinking your standards are unreasonable, but its not that, guys like us are really thinking about the bare minimum requirements, like 5./10 girl and not batshit insane. But that's still too valuable for most men to have. I really cannot stress this enough, most guys are single because they are unwilling to accept garbage tier women, which is 100% normal for NPC type men to do.
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>>33778604
Touché
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>>33773461
You have Brittany Venti on there twice, she's so cute.



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