Got caught for the first time (walmart) today. Can't sleep. They don't know my real first name and didn't get my ID, just took the stuff back. How fucked am I? Can I stop now and never go to walmart again with no further repercussions? I want to stop. I've felt like a shitty person because of this (and other things) for years. I started slowly but it ramped up around covid, because being able to get things while being poor gave me a sense of security. My life situation was/is so depressing and I lost control over my own life and this gave me a sense of control and freedom and security. Honestly I'm only here because I needed to tell someone. I've never even told my therapist about this behavior before that's how ashamed of it I am. I have OCD so that probably isn't helping. Idk what advice I'm even looking for, maybe just reassurance that I'm going to be okay and I have the capacity to stop now.
you're telling my no one on 4chan has shoplifted before and can give me advice?
>>33781943Just go and apologize and explain that you're in a tough place. Not to justify, but to actually explain why you acted this way. They'll hopefully see the human in you.
>>33781948I mean, it was walmart so I don't think they care to hear an apology like that. They just said I was banned from every walmart and took my picture. I really don't need to go to walmart though I can just never go back and be okay legally, yes? If this situation were different I would definitely apologize. Honestly if this works and I stop shoplifting I would even thank them because I hate myself for it. I just don't want to ruin my life. I just want to change, and stop, and feel okay about myself again/
>>33781974Forgiveness is a thing in civilized cultures.
>>33781979Would they even care? Would it help me in any way? I mean they straight up banned me from the store so I could potentially get arrested for trespassing for even going back.
>>33781012I shoplifted one bite-sized chocolate once.You should start seeing a therapist, and after 4 sessions write a written appeal to whatever walmart store manager, if they don't take you in go to another walmart and do the same if they're giving you shit.If you're still having issues you could turn this petty shit into a fight over human rights, mental health, the morals of redemption etc, this could be your ticket to being a millionaire if you play your cards right.
>>33782011What makes you think they'll recognize you in the first place? Just head straight to customer support and ask for the manger. Don't reveal the topic before he or she sits before you. Actual shame, actual reflection and likes, it actually matters to people. You don't want to be this person, well, you should tell them. It's not shameful to express shame when you've betrayed your own ideals.
>>33782011It won't help. I would advise against it. Just don't steal anymore. Fuck a thief.>I'm so poor >I pay $$$$$ for a (((the rapist)))
>>33781012Less 4chan, more apply for jobs.
>>33781012How poor can you be? Cut grass, buy bitcoin, get a rental, put the profit in index funds.>>33782058This also. People complain about being broke, refusing to do basic math.
>>33781012>>33781974You didn't feel bad or stop until you got caught, so I feel little sympathy.And yeah, you're fucked. Walmart doesn't stop you until you've shoplifted a certain amount of merchandise. Retards think they "got away with it" but they've got you on camera for everything you've stolen. So at this point, they're certainly not going to hear any apologies if you've been stealing for years.That said, it's good you want to change. Just don't expect to be let back into Walmart again. They have a database and face-scanning technology that immediately identifies you as a thieving little nigger fucktard and will kick you out if you try going in there.
>>33782030Thanks, this isn't a bad idea once I've gotten some treatment if I really feel the need to go back for whatever reason. I just hope this doesn't impact my life in the future, and that it scared me enough to stop (I think it did).
>>33782043Good point. I hadn't thought of it this way. I do hope that if I stop for long enough to prove to myself I have changed then I can maybe go back and do this.
>>33782058Yes, I think this has scared me off of it fully but I already have spent a lot of time hating myself and being scared of getting caught and wanting to stop before this. I just don't want any permanent repercussions because I plan on that being the end. I hope they don't like, have all my info and send it to the cops but I don't think they do.>>33782614I'm not THAT poor, it's true. I am just far behind people my age in income and I didn't want to deny myself stupid creature comforts and nice things to give me dopamine. The variety of things I stole just to feel good is shameful. I never stole from small businesses though and I would never steal from like, someone's house or anyone I know etc. It was mostly big box stores or mall stores. >>33782083Yes, I am getting serious in recent months about my business and I've been seeing financial returns from that. I want to be financially secure so I can never justify it to myself again, even if of course, it was no excuse. >>33782723Yeah I don't plan on going back to walmart again. I didn't go much before this anyway. I definitely did feel bad before getting caught though. I feel like my post explained that. Do you think the database is for all Walmarts in the world? I am moving in the next couple of years so I was hopeful that by that time and very far away maybe I could just be a normal person and go to walmart again. Not that I need to, but it would be nice not to be restricted.
>>33782058Oh also I have medicaid so the therapist is free and they have a lot of similar life experiences as I do so I think that's partially why I have a lot of shame even bringing this up in a session in the last few months I've been doing therapy. I said it was a behavior I had already stopped. >>33782723I forgot to add that I've only been doing this at Walmarts for about 6 months, and at that location not much at all. I just have done it at various other random stores for years in the past. But I want to thank you for your comment because yes, while I have stopped in the past for periods of time, I haven't been this motivated to stop before I got this scared. I know I am a shitty person on some level for this clearly. I just want to change and be better because I don't ever want to feel that way again.
>>33781012Never go into another Walmart again until you're old and unrecognizable. If they were going to call the police they likely would have done so already. Theoretically they still can so you'll have an anxious next couple weeks but I would assume that if you hear nothing in the next 2 weeks you're in the clear. I feel like their loss prevention team will be faster than that.
>>33783315Thank you. I am hopeful that them not knowing my real first name or seeing ID (I didn't have any on me) helps me. And then I can just not go into walmart anymore yes.
>>33781012You need to take the Walmart ban very seriously: don't ever go there again, and not just that branch, but any branch. Beyond that, though, you probably won't face any direct consequences: if they were going to call the police, they would have called them before allowing you to leave the store.However, you really need to treat this as a wake-up call and actually STOP. You were lucky this time; you may well not be lucky next time. Talk to your therapist: helping you to break unhealthy patterns of behaviour is precisely the kind of thing a therapist is there for.
>>33783941Thank you for your response, I appreciate it and I agree.
>>33781012Buddy, you can't just pick something up and walk out, you have to conceal it. Not in a bag because they'll search that, but in your pocket. If there are self checkouts you can also scan just the heavier items, with a lighter item behind each, relative to the scanner. Anything below 150g should be fine if you do them one at a time.Also, never run. That makes you a target
>>33781012walmart has facial recognition software in their security so you might be flagged every time you are in a wal mart now. If you want free shit without getting in trouble try the dumpster next time.
>>33785735>That makes you a targetHe's banned from Walmart so naturally he's a Target
>>33781012based. You shouldn't stop, but rather get better at it so you don't get caught next time
>>33781012Kleptomania is an actual medical condition, see a psychiatrist, will also help your case, maybe only probation
>>33781012Don't go to that Walmart for a long timeDon't go apologize to them Tell your therapist, she won't put in jail, she'll help you get to the root of why to do it and how to stop
>>33781012why is it always girls that have OCD and shoplift?
only idiots get caught, sorry for you lossalso walmart, idiot, rob rich supermarkets ffs theres less security
>>33786100Yeah this is what I'm assuming. How long do they keep you in the system for though? Like, could I go back to a walmart in a different state in a few years and be fine? >>33786115Nope I'm done>>33786105Lol thanks for the laugh actually>>33785735I was definitely concealing really really well for a long time. I was just getting stupid and risky because I had been doing it for so long without even thinking anymore, it really became compulsive for me like maybe 2-3 years ago. I've asked myself so many times why I did it. There is no real logical reason for it.
>>33781012Youre lucky they stopped you. Normally they'd just let you carry on until you'd stolen enough to do some time.
>>33781943Most people don't shoplift. It's anti social. It's not yours so don't take it.Now I am not making a moral argument, sure most larg corps like Walmart arnt people and themselves anti social. However the behavior of taking from them points to a willingness to commit other anti social behavior.
>>33789067No idea, but I have a lot of intrusive horrible thoughts and compulsions and this is probably a manifestation of that. 5 years ago when my OCD first got bad enough to be diagnosed I was thinking such intense existential nightmare hypothetical thoughts and projecting them onto myself that I thought I was schizophrenic. The compulsions for me are a coping mechanism to feel some amount of control and sense of security in the face of these thoughts, even if you know they're not logical and in many cases harmful to your well being they bring some relief.>>33786116I don't think the police are coming for me, at least I hope they're not, but thank you for your comment. I will be seeking more help for this. >>33789147Yeah I've done those types of places too. I was doing this regularly for over 5 years so it was so many different places. And I am an idiot yes. >>33789937Yes I'm considering myself lucky and just taking this as an opportunity to change my life. I don't want to live like this anymore I want to be better I want to be free of this shit and I want to not hate myself. If I can never step into any walmart again then so be it, a very small price to pay. >>33789944I agree it's not moral on principle alone, even if there wasn't a victim with a face it's just not what you do in a normal society. I don't do any other anti social behaviors though, as far as I am aware.
