Is it worth it to get a couple of good fragrances? I saw some guys getting comlimented over the summer and it looked awesome ngl

it's simple: women want to have sex with hot guys

>>33811573
how do you even make conversation instead you you and the girls just awkwardly looking at each other and the surroundings ?

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>>33811645
>you and the girls just awkwardly looking at each other and the surroundings ?
already over by that point

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Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.

Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.

Quick question bros:
Have class with a cute girl but she is kind of shy. Waiting for class we made eye contact and I smiled. She seemed flustered and walked away around the corner waiting until the teacher opened the door. Am I correct in assuming this is bashful behavior or did I do something wrong?

>>33811727
what if you have no idea how to hit on a girl?

>>33811742
I am right there with you man. In a lot of ways it is similar to learning guitar. You can look at all of the manuals, guides and instructionals that you want and get a good head start, but in the end the real magic happens when you start having fun with it and carve out your own unique style from trial and error.

>>33811759
My problem is that my mind go instantly blank when the subject is hitting on someone or even starting an interaction and I all the guides and manulas were never really useful to me as they were just to vague, giving a very general what to do but never really explaining the how you do the things they say you to do

>>33811573
>How to get women
Step 1: Meet women.
That's where I always fail, I'm tired of this eternal sausage fest

What is the fear of the approach...I'll tell you as someone who is making it a goal to be a master of approaching. The approach comes down to truth. If you choose not to approach, you do so out of a desire to preserve a fantasy, a delusion. Maybe a fantasy of possibility. Maybe a delusion of self. But when you don't approach, you are choosing the comfort of ignorance. That's not always bad, but it very often is. To approach is to embrace reality. It is putting a value on the truth, no matter how disappointing it might end up being. Thus the fear of the approach is also the fear of disappointment. The fear arises from a simple truth about yourself:
>You are too fragile for what is real.
When you begin to despise the comfort of delusion, you will approach. When you believe that you can survive the truth, no matter what it is, you will approach. When you can live with disappointment, better yet, when you can laugh at it, you will approach.

>>33812002
I say this all because "state" precedes approach. Who you are, your beliefs, your disposition, determines everything that follows in seduction. So the most fundamental thing to get right, is your relationship with reality. In most circumstances, it is not rational to fear the approach. If you fear the approach you are in Plato's cave. You're pissing your pants at shadows on the wall. You're allowing hypothetical tigers in you bathroom to force you to shit on your floor. When the ghosts disappear from your mind, you will be in the proper state.

>>33811806
I think the best advice I have gotten is to approach from a place of curiousity i.e. Not "How can I woo or impress this person" but rather "How/I must find out what made this person so alluring to me in the first place"

>>33812037
>approach from a place of curiosity
how you do that ?

>I must find out what made this person so alluring to me in the first place
what if you already know why you get interested enough to want to approach before doing it ?

>>33811603
Get YSL La Nuit De L'Homme and thank me later.

>Want to chat with crush
>I sent her a "Good Morning" and a "Good Luck today!" Message and she replied with a "Thanks, bro. You too" so it's too early to chat again
AHH IT HURTS. I WANT TO TALK TO HER AND KNOW HOW SHE'S FEELING. I need to learn how to cope with this burning feeling of wanting to talk to her. I hate we weren't countried apart and we could see each other.

>>33812247
You're already too needy and desperate. Don't contact her until Friday 18:00.

>>33812258
Huh. If you put it that way, it does sound very pathetic.
For context I just went nearly a 7 days without chatting with her. We were on a decent once every 3 days streak until the idea that she may be too busy got into my head since she was taking quite a bit to reply, so I decided to give her more space since I know she's the type of gal to try please everyone even if it's exhausting her.
Why until Friday 6:00pm, specifically?

>>33812296
Mate there is nothing here, move on. Long distance baka, come on you desperate fucks...

>>33812037
exactly, having genuine interest in the other person is crucial
but also, viewing this person not as your equal or above you, but someone who is way below you in status
because your tone and energy need to be in that state for her to also believe you to be a catch

>>33812059
>what if you already know why you get interested enough to want to approach before doing it ?
see what else can further develop your interest?

>>33812247
I’ll be quite honest, once a woman calls you “bro”, just wrap it up. In her mind, she’s being rude in the most polite way possible so you fuck off.

>>33812688
i have started calling women bruv lately, i don't know why
i was bred to be a israeli jihadist unfortunately

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out of nowhere ive gotten a bunch of matches on hinge. i redid a bunch of pictures and prompts, but im pretty sure this is a random surge. how do i not blow this? how long should i be texting these women before asking them out? first few messages? a couple days?

>try to talk to crush, even had a good opener prepared and some good conversation lines to take depending on how she responds
>actual conversation is maybe like 10 lines back and forth that I was too in my head to continue
>start up a conversation with some random chick on the bus home from work that I had zero interest in
>somehow managed to keep up a level of fun banter for the hour or so that the trip lasted where she was actively trying to talk to me and I wasn't even bothering that hard

I really wish there was some kind of mental cheat code to initiate that kind of dgaf attitude when talking to women I'm actually attracted to because when it happens it's like I'm running elite level game on autopilot without even being consciously aware of it.

How do I get a gf that will cuck me and record other guys fucking her for me?

>>33813328
Ask them out on the first message

>Going shopping
>Sister wants me to get her a pair of shoes while I'm out
>Only gives me a vague description of them and her shoe size
>Go to shoe shop
>Get assistance from hot chick who works there
>She seems friendly
>Start describing shoes
>They're popular so she knows the ones and takes me to them
>Gives me that salesman spiel which is unnecessary because I'm buying them regardless
>"So...are they for your gf?"
>"That depends"
>"What on?"
>"Whether you have a pair already"
>She giggles
>She serves me
>Leave shop
>Look back
>She's smiling and gives me a little wave
>Smile and wink
>Start walking like John Travolta in the opening of Saturday Night Fever
>Avoid the shop ever since

How do I always fuck up this badly? This always tends to happen. I can usually make some snappy one liners as long as it seems like there's a level of interest, or even just something I can gauge interest off of, but then when it comes to sealing the deal I totally shit my pants and never know what to say.

>>33813818
autissimo, my fren

>>33811573
If you meet someone online how often should you be talking to one another? I only ever dated my girlfriend and we talked every day for hours since the day we met.

We are broken up with now and I do not know if that is standard. I met a girl I really like and we had an amazing date, so much in common and so much chemistry. I texted her after and we talked for a few hours. But now 24 hours have passed and no text from her. Is this normal?

I feel like an obsessive freak and this is for sure unhealthy, I have few friends and am placing all my hopes on this woman. But I am filled with anxiety that I have lost her attention somehow. How do I know? Will she message first? Is it bad if I have to initiate our convos? I am a grown man but I only ever dated one girl so I have so little experience

>girl says she doesn't eat meat and is bit chubby
With clothes on she is pretty cute but...
How to get her to loose 10kg?

>>33813965
>But now 24 hours have passed and no text from her. Is this normal?
You can never know. I met one chick irl, we made out and kept exchanging messages. Then one day she just stopped replying and I figured oh well whatever. Then months later we happen to meet again, make out again, talk daily, then she stops replying, then replies after like 3 days and goes out with me the same night. Some chicks are just busy/retarded, some may drop you. No way to know really, but try not to appear desperate/obsessed. If she doesn't reply at all just suggest a meeting at a time/place and then she'll either ghost you for good or agree and then you have your answer.

>>33812548
what even counts as "genuine interest" and how do you get it towards a girl you just saw on a bar and though she was attractive/cute enough to justify trying to hit on her ?

>>33813818
you should be proud of yourself and confident bro. you were able to charm a hot chick and you only needed one more step to get her on a date or whatever. millions of incels are crying and blackpilling because they cant even come close to the kind of interaction you just had. all you have to do is realize your potential.

>>33814270
Yeah. I guess I just have to hope.
Fuck it I will just try and have a convo with her tonight. If she wants to, she wants to and we can grow closer. I don't mind texting first as long as she reciprocates and shows interest

>>33814422
Nah don't do infinite convo shit, just ask her out
I can go into detail as to why but just trust me on this

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>>33811573
You know, you can actually train your mind to use telepathy to get bitches. You can even hypnotize women by sending messages with your brain. It's simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

>>33813818
Go back, feel it out, ask her out if she remembers you.

>>33814027
>How to get her to loose 10kg?
Break up with her.

How to get out of friendzone? I'm lifting and working out and getting hotter in general but I've fallen for my friend who reminds me were friends every time we hangout. I'm split between confessing and asking her out to coffee or just aggressively flirt with her. I've been told confessing is gay and you shouldn't do it past elementary school.

Do I have a chance? I'm trying to detach to the point of not caring what she thinks of me but I really like this girl, I'm crushing hard. To make matters worse she also dated another friend of mine but they broke up some months ago.

Vibes with her are good and we get along well but I dont feel any interest from her end, I feel like its pretty obvious when a girl likes you. But then we also have intense eye contact so that confuses me. Advice is welcome.

>>33816379
You get out by not being her friend anymore. Just stop hanging out. If you really want a moonshot chance then ask her out but otherwise your only option is to move on

>>33816379
Just flirt a lot and see how it goes. And be prepared that there isn't any interest, but the first step to getting interest is planting an idea about it in her mind.

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how do i get emotionally close to a girl?

there's a cute girl who i really love and i've gotten pretty far with her; hanging out once a week, talking often, she said she feels like we understand each other.

but i feel like there's emotional distance between us. no matter how hard i try, i've never been able to become close to anyone in my life, not even my family or the girls i've previously dated. she's more jaded, so i doubt i can convince her to date me if i don't try to bridge that distance between us. i don't want to creep her out though. what do i do?

why the fuck do i go down on every girl i get with

>>33811573
Name of girl in pic? Need to see more of her tits.

>>33817105
Because you like the smell of rotten fish.

Charity session, my sons. Here goes my time

>>33817105
Do you enjoy it? Then it's just your sexuality, formed so long ago you don't remember certain events. You don't enjoy it? People pleasing, you have low self esteem, you feel to be not enough, so you have to bribe women with unbalanced pleasure. Explore your traumas

>>33816923
You are playing a game wrong. You act like a gay friend, yet you want her. So she likes you, but senses that you have suppressed romantic interest. Women are super attentive to that. Deep down she knows you are fearful manipulative creep, pretending to be friendly to penetrate her

First of all, explore why are you so fearful to just be the man, and why you have to be sneaky and strategizing. And dont retell me how she is special and you must go slow. That's just a story you tell yourself to feel safe

By the way, the reason you cant get close to people is your own wall, not theirs

>>33816379
You are oblivious to sexual polarity and how to be a man to a woman. This one sentence

>Do I have a chance?

alone tells me you had no proper father figure in your life. Stop dating all together, start researching the man's position in intersexual dynamics, which traits and beliefs are expected from you to play your role in it

>>33814027
Inspire. Take her on fun dates with physical activities, lead her into the better lifestyle by example. Fat people have lack of good parenting, low impulse control and bad influence from environment. Be the opposite influence

>>33813965
>how often should you be talking to one another?

Son, you have to be busy enough with your social circles, hobbies, working out, making money and family not to notice who message when

And you have to make yourself attractive and competent enough not to worry who replies when, because you are already in abundance

No amount of micro managing your communications and strategies will make you happy. Fix yourself and win the game by not playing it

>>33813818
Drop the self judging language, it makes things worse. Stop telling yourself the old story of your failures, focus on where you want to be. You are good at the start, you want to be better at follow up? Keep going, do more of those, and get slowly better. Its not your fate, its just a small chapter

>and never know what to say
That's fear. Say anything. Even one word. A compliment. An invitation. Get better with each repetition

>>33813481
You are traumatized. Unless you address that, you wont be fully happy

>>33813431
>wish there was some kind of mental cheat code
There is. Repetition. You were born unable to talk, walk or even feed yourself. Now you run, talk nonsense for a whole day and can ties shoe laces. Talk to women more, flirt with them, it will become easy

>>33817918
Yes. So you are correct. I have no life currently mine is falling apart a bit. She is the only thing giving me joy so I overanalyze everything and try to pay attention to that.

Thankfully from her perspective I have not sperged out yet.

I’m a bit hesitant to ask out this girl I like mainly because we seem too different. I’m more of a stay-at-home type, enjoy reading, coding, playing vidya, cooking, although I do outdoor activities too and I have an interest in historical combat arts but I’m not really the “head out on a random adventure” type.

She’s more athletic and outdoorsy, does sports professionally and is a bit of a wrench wench which I honestly wouldn’t have expected of a girl like her since she’s also fairly feminine and girly. Quite smart too. Very beautiful and is aware of it as well.

If she rejects me then no issue but I do get slight hints that she’s interested and if she says yes then I’m not sure what we’d even bond over. We have barely anything in common. Doubly so because there’s a 10 year age gap involved.

Is it even worth pursuing or is it doomed either way?

>>33818175
If it works out what will happen is you working on yourself more often and being at your best all the time. Society puts into people's heads that the sporty chick will just do most of the work and you sit on your computer all day long. Essentially what you need to do is go from nerd to athletic nerd. Being the guy who dorks out on exercise routines and going to the gym and eating healthy. Be a dork about being productive and living an active lifestyle. You do that while also being yourself, you will be fine.

Higher level chadlite here. I'm taking on a bigger challenge and wondering how do i slowly warm up my older, classy attention slut cousin to the old english idea of cousin love. My options are pretty much limited to texting as of now but who knows, I think I have some wiggle room.

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>>33811573
how do i get an emo gf

>>33813328
Be forward and flirty, ask them out within the first few moves

>put "short term, open to long"
>first girl freaks out when I make a move in my apartment
>second girl seems to be looking for LTR
So I've asked out another girl today, but said she's free next Friday. Seems like a good sign

>have a successful date with a qt3.14
>now feel empty inside as I sit in my house alone a day later
goddamn I think I need meds or something

realistically how much can “fixing” your dating profile do.
Idk if I’m ugly or just look bad in photos but I get no matches except with fat desperate chicks. I thought of maybe roping my sister in to help do my profile and take pictures out of desperation

>>33819221
Nah man don't eat the bugs. Psychotherapy, always.

>>33820272
>but I get no matches except with fat desperate chicks
Well that's your issue. Swipe right on fatties and you eill plummet your ELO

Should I date an African woman? I think I have a shot with one. Is there anything I should be worried about? Or will it be a good idea?

>>33819221
Ask her for a second date?

>>33816923
>emotional distance between us
That's just how women are. You were sold the lie that women can or will be genuinelly emotionally open with you; they won't and the moment you try, her attraction will plummet. If she wants to emotionally connect with you, she will pursue it if not then don't try because I guarantee she'll bale on you.

Can you start over with a girl you fucked up getting a date from?
>Asked her out. She said yes.
>she busy with work and im busy with other shit resulted in the date never happening.
>tried talking to her while she was at work(dumb, i know). She said call me after work
>called and no answer
>give up on girl
>no contact for 2 months now
I should just give up on this girl right?

>>33821010
>I should just give up on this girl right?
Yes
If she was interested then she would've pursued you. The moment you start chasing that makes you look desperate and that is the biggest killer for a womens attraction.

>>33821020
I know. But she is so perfect!
I hate this shit

>>33821024
>I hate this shit
Me too anon, me too

>>33820272
Unironically more important than how you actually look. Unless you're an actual mutant irl it's the biggest variable in getting matches.

>>33812002
>>33812032
Bruh, my fear of approach is that she'll call me a rapist and ruin my life.

“Do you have insta or something”
how do I save this, I have no social media and I’m not gonna go an autistic rant about why I don’t

>24
>Muslim
>Tall and in good shape
>Decently sociable
>Good job

So question for you guys from more conservative backgrounds, how do I make advances on women without making it disrespectful or awkward. It's pretty much a no go for cold approaches but even for girls I know. I'm not super conservative but want someone respectable and likewise I carry myself similarly

For example there's a girl at work who's also Muslim, we chat and like around once a week and it's always a warm friendly conversation. I'm not particularly keen on pursuing her desu but a good example of situations I tend to find myself in. I think she's usually pretty flirty with me just the way she talks and approaches convos, very playful as compared to with others. So say I was to want to get to know her better on relationship terms how would I even go about it? It doesn't really feel appropriate to get super personal in the office and I can direct conversation to something more flirty but how do I make the next step of getting her number? Do I ask her if she wants to grab lunch and talk further that way? Even if I got her contact how do I approach texting with intent or just casually which would be more infrequent?

Always find I have these dilemmas so would love to hear some input and again using this more as a case study (not looking to talk to her seriously for other reasons)

>>33821458
"yeah"
Then pull out your phone and add eachother.

>>33821458
Man you gotta up your schizogame. I have a phone for normies and one for my actual shit.

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>>33820335
>eill plummet your ELO
Huh

>girl left a note on my scooter today with her @
>you look so peaceful I want to get to know you”
This follows last weekend a woman apparently from my condo building approached me in a coffee shop. First time this has happened. So my advice, go to Thailand looking peaceful and the foreign girls will like you :)

>>33821458
Say you’re off social media and ask for number

>>33814823
Nearly there anon. Other people are an illusion, you’re actually talking to yourself in the simulation ll

>>33821768
>go to Thailand
>just be white
there, fixed it for you

>>33821809
They are white women folk

>>33820948
I can't for the next 2 weeks sadly

>>33821927
I hope she is aware of that

>>33822019
Yeah I forgot to say that but I'll see if I can text
Fuck this shit is hard when dealing with a girl you actually really like

>>33822043
Its not hard lmao, you just have to communicate. Tell her you want to meet up again, see if she agrees, and if she does then tell her you are unavailable for 2 weeks.
If you both really want to hang out then see if you can do a video call or something

>>33822068
Yeah you're right. I just become UBER autistic with girls I care about. Thanks anon I will do that.

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>>33811886
>sausage fest
W…what kind of “women” are you m..meeting with, nigga?

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Update
>2nd date/hangout with gook exchange student
>with asians you never know if they are shy or just Asian
>We went to the park to draw and paint
>she's an art student
>out of nowhere she says "I'm sort of artistic"
>because of the accent I couldn't understand
>She meant she's autistic.
>mentioned quite a few times that I'm free to "message her anytime I want to hangout together to draw"
>invited me to visit her painting studio
>invited me to go to her art fait next weekend
>we were mostly silent during our hangout
>still...
>she said she loved it, and had fun

I've tried breaking the touch barrier but it seems hard, not sure if it's cultural or because she's actually autistic. How do I even make a move is she doesn't get non verbal cues?

>Woman sends me message on instagram, asking me how I am (talked to her before and she seemed interested in me)
>I respond and ask her how she is
>No response
>But likes gym photo of me in instagram story days after
How to explain this behaviour?

>>33823455
women are retarded what is there to explain?
personally I don't have time or patience for her stupid gay ass games.
Unless she's 8/10 and up, don't bother chasing her.

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I don't think I'll ever get over the difference in how waitstaff and bartenders and even strangers treat you when you're alone vs when you have a pretty woman with you

>>33823921
if you are dressed well thennit is pretty much the same experience

I know this is gonna be a bitter truth and it holds nothing against women, but no matter what, a woman is an elitist, and if you want her you have to be above her. I know that sucks to hear, but it is the truth. Women are never evil, but they are just elitists.

I have a match with about a 17 year age gap on Facebook dating and she responded to my opening with “You are too young. I could be your mommy *laughing emoji*”. Is that actually her shutting it down? Or is she just fucking with me and I can send something flirty back? Im too autistic to tell

Living in a studio is bad right for women? Even if you're the owner? t. 277sqft

I have a date with a Japanese chick I met off hinge tomorrow. We’re gonna have coffee at a place not far from me. She doesn’t speak English too well but I’m planning to just hang out with her at the cafe for a bit then see if she wants to go to my place. I want to fuck this chick so bad she has great tits. Seems very sweet too. I’ve had tons of Asian chicks but never a Japanese one. Do Japanese women fuck on the first date like that or what?

>>33825215
Idk how old that actually makes her but older women dont really tend to beat around the bush or play games like that. You could shoot something back like "maybe I want that" or something to see how she replies

I was out with my friend and this girl started to chatting with us and we ended up hanging out with her friends briefly before they left. I got her number. How should I proceed?

I just got out of a relationship and just want to see where this goes/hookup. What should I text her? She didn't have any social media and only have her number. Should I ask her out for a drink or something?

>>33814308
like interest to get to know the person behind the look, ike are you hitting on her just because of lust
or because you want to know more about her

>>33826193
just text her hey nice too meet you the other day
and that's abotu it
after say let's catch up again sometime if she responds
then you plan another hangout and take her where you want to go
pretty simple

>>33811573
Is it cringe to ask a woman if she's "seeing anyone" before going for her number or asking her out?

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>>33811573
Went to the strip club today cuz I was lonely after my birthday and came out even lonelier
>tfw 29
>tfw lost my v card to a tinder hook up
>tfw never had a gf
Idek anymore I get matches on tinder but 90% of them are girls who ghost and I am starting to just get tired of it all.

>>33821516
>muslim
get that arranged

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I wouldn't want to date me, so why should I expect any woman to?

I’m 21M, and it’s absolutely INSANE that women my age would refuse to date inexperienced menb because they assume there’s something wrong with them. I get doing this in your mid/late 30s, but if you try telling this to a 30 year old they’d laugh because 21 is still a baby to them! It also seems like every woman has experience so its hard being in an area where every 20 year old takes themselves so seriously despite being a dumbass. How do I find someone as inexperienced as me??

>match with a girl on hinge
>send a message
>open the app a few hours or a day later
>unmatched
Why does this keep happening? My openers are usually random questions about their profile to break the ice

>>33827231
>Why does this keep happening?
becuase you are using semitic dating apps. Enjoy!

>be me
>go to the BBQ held by our company today just to have fun, eat some meat and drink booze
>there's a girl from out office I haven't talked much with but consider cute (and we did do same sports in college)
>spend hours having fun, haven't talked with her once
>BBQ over, time to go home but it's raining
>she does not have an umbrella, I take out mine and hold over her without saying anything (she's considerably shorter than me)
>she notices, smiles, and we walk back to station talking about weather and stuff
>I say goodbye and find some bros to drink some more somewhere else
>we get off the train and surprise surprise she's also here (apparently some mutuals invited her to drink and she's coming too)
>It's still raining and she still does not have an umbrella, so I repeat my maneuver
>she's surprised but laughs and calls me her hero
>other people in our group also poke fun at how gentlemanly I am
>we go to the nearby bar
>sit at the same table as her and two other people, talk about all kinds of shit
>suddenly, her friend starts talking about ISTP, makes everyone say their type
>when I say mine, her friend points at her and says "wow, you two are compatible!"
So, uh.
I do need to make a move ASAP, don't I?

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Hey guys I'm trying out Hinge again after a friend just got engaged to a girl he met on there. Need some advice for my prompts, specifically the "Together we could" or others if you have a better idea. I really just need examples that don't sound stupid

Look you all, I'm not saying go make yourself be used by a gold digger, but a woman would far more likely appreciate you if you date her when your dreams come true not make her treat you like an investment. And I'll tell you it is very endearing to be treated like an investment. But you being 25 trying to date a 26 year old am competing with a 40 year old who is a CEO now. You got to be at that high level. She's looking at you like you are gonna be a terrible deadbeat alcoholic whose gonna put her in a trailer home smashing a whiskey bottle after drinking it heavily and then yelling at her for 2 hours then slapping her. Prove her wrong you are not that nightmare of a person.

>>33825500
Wasnt actually a hard no. I played into the mommy thing then she said she was looking for a son to buy her drinks. We flirted a little more but she hasn’t responded since last night :/

So my approaches and opens are good. I'm pretty sure I'm attractive based on the fact women are approaching me occasionally and every girl I approach is at least giving me the microphone and playing along initially. My sticking point is definitely something in my head rather than in my game itself and it's something I've never dealt with before. I start to get this voice in my head that makes me want to tell the girl I'm talking to "I'm not hitting on you, you might have AIDS for all I know, so don't flatter yourself." It's an attitude that is obviously attractive because it makes me come across as disinterested and cocky, but it's also too real in the sense that I'm actually self-sabotaging in interactions now.

It's like I have this person in my head calling me a hack on stage. Like "oh, good job man, look how cool you are...so what now, you're going to bring this girl over there and make out with her...wow you're so cool and original, you douche." And that manifests again as self-sabotage where I'll deliberately not do what works because it feels too cliche. It's bad enough that I will hear old timey 1950s music in my head while I'm talking to a girl and be like 1 second away from saying out loud "this is gay" and walking away. I think I'm legitimately such an asshole that my own inner monologue is now being an asshole to me.