>Had a crush on this girl from my university for over a year>She's very attractive and pretty goofy and funny>She's a popular cheerleader type. She liked athletic guys>Even though I was nerdy I gradually changed myself to become more athletic and confident>I was talking to her, flirting without being too obvious, working on my smile, etc>We became friends, or casual friends at least>Not quite sure where I stood with her but I got the vibe of me being her nice male friend>After more than a year of knowing her I was about to confess to her>She suddenly appears with this guy at least a decade older than her, he looks like he's homeless, his clothes are all dirty and torn, his hair looks filthy, his beard was like a foot long and dirty, he's missing several teeth, he has shitty tattoos all over his face, lots of facial piercings that look infected, he smelled really bad, etc>She starts kissing him in front of everyone and calling him darling>Oh brother if I had a gun right now I'd kill myself>When I confronted her about how I liked her over a year and now she appears with this loser, she says she likes a bad boy who's genuine rather than a goody two shoes like me>Since this happened I've already gained over 100 pounds, stopped washing myself or my clothes, stopped exercising, etc>What should I do? Why should I work hard only to lose to a homeless loser?
>>33815655>>After more than a year of knowing her I was about to confess to herif it's any consolation, she would have rejected and friendzoned you anyways because confessing is fuckin gay and retarded and something you should stop trying to do past the age of like 5 years old.>she says she likes a bad boy who's genuine rather than a goody two shoes like methis never happened
>>33815655I don't know bro. It kind of sounds like you dodged a bullet. If her standards for men are that low then I'd just be happy I didn't waste any time in a relationship with her.
>>33815655your story was somewhat believable until you got to the part about the homeless guy. unless he's somehow extremely rich there's no way a popular cheerleader girl would go for a homeless man
>>33815655Hilarious shit!She sure played your ass!Of course she never wanted the hobo, only to try and harden your soft ass up. And it didn't work.You coulda beat the hobo up and went to jail like a real man.That's probably what she wanted from you all along.Basically, you survived a psy ops attempt little neuro.Congratulations!
You sound like a punk ass nigga not gonna lie. Devoting so much time and effort to this one girl you weren't even close with, and you yourself even seemed to realize.>Not quite sure where I stood with her but I got the vibe of me being her nice male friendYet you kept going. "Nice" is a word women use to mean a guy they're not interested in. Only a punk would change himself for a girl who didn't even reciprocate his feelings. Go find a girl who likes a nerdy guy rather than forcing yourself to become athletic just to please a girl. >Since this happened I've already gained over 100 pounds, stopped washing myself or my clothes, stopped exercising, etcYeah you have lost all of my respect after this. I won't take anything you say serious. Guys who let a bitch ruin their life just like that have zero respect from me. Unless you straighten up I won't feel bad if you die lonely and alone. You'll probably have several health problems as well gaining 100 pounds and shit.>When I confronted her about how I liked her over a year and now she appears with this loser, she says she likes a bad boy who's genuine rather than a goody two shoes like meShe did sort of have a point here. She probably noticed that you put her on a pedestal and would do anything to please her and so like me she lost all respect for you. At the very least the hobo was being himself and didn't change who he was just to please some bitch.
Ok this is just funny. I wish I could give you proper advice but holy shit this whole situation is just so sad
Mother fucker you're the go getter! Be that!
>>33815655She says she likes bad boys.You got along with her and that's an advantage. Now move her out of the pedestal and be the bad boy she wants.Keep hanging around with her, but make aggressive moves, like steal a kiss from her if she locks eyes, grope her thighs, let yourself fucking go. If she says "You know I'm with someone, don't you care about my feelings" say you only care about what feels good or some other shit like that, just don't give a fuck and test how much you can get away with being an asshole. Treat her like trash, like a bad boy.You fucked up by taking too long, you should be dating one month after meeting her, you don't need to confess unless you're a cuck wanting to get friendzoned, or a chud training to become gigachad, but never with the purpose of winning over a girl.
>>33815964Bro your respect means jackshit, both here on the internet and real life, dunno who you're trying to look like big shit for.
>>33815655Okay. You basically did literally everything wrong here. With this specific girl there's nothing you can do to fix the situation but just don't make the same mistakes again. Girls have no respect for guys who put them on a pedestal. That way you'll be nothing more than her dopey male friend. So respect yourself more and treat a girl the same way you'd treat a guy, just perhaps without all the dick jokes and shit. And don't focus on being nice to them either. Girls can tell when you're being too nice on purpose to gain their affection. Be as nice to them as you would to a guy. And don't be afraid to partake in banter with them as well.
>>33817088i wouldn't be as rude as that guy but he does kind of have a point even though he comes across as a douchebag. women just aren't worth that much effort. op was just wasting his time for nothing. over a year for a woman who doesn't even like you back is ridiculous
>>33815655>confess to herNever do this.If you have to confess, it's already not working as you hoped, you likely are friendzoned and that's all you will get from her.
This gives me confidence. If he can get a cute gf so can I.
>>33819081Yup. Same here. Even though this story sucks for op it gives me hope. It tells me that even though women claim to have high standards it's all just bullshit and women are hypocrites. They claim to want a perfect 10 who is around 6'5 and all of a sudden appear with a 2 who is around 5'5. Women have no idea what they want. Don't trust their word.
>>33815655Damn. This was kind of hard to read. She totally played you like a fool my man
>>33815655this story is a bit too perfectly hilariously pathetic to be true. none of this ever happened
>>33815655>Had a crush on this girl from my university for over a yearFirst mistake. You took way too long to take action>I was talking to her, flirting without being too obvious, working on my smile, etcThat's another mistake. You need to make it clear that you're sexually interested. It's not flirting if she doesn't know you're sexually interested. In that case, it's just friendly banter.>We became friends, or casual friends at leastExactly my point. You don't act like a friend to get a girlfriend. That makes you..a friend. You act like a man who's sexually interested to get a girlfriend.>After more than a year of knowing her I was about to confess to herThis never goes well. She's expecting 100% friend. Not pretending to be a friend when you like her the whole time.>She suddenly appears with this guy at least a decade older than her, he looks like he's homeless, his clothes are all dirty and torn, his hair looks filthy, his beard was like a foot long and dirty, he's missing several teeth, he has shitty tattoos all over his face, lots of facial piercings that look infected, he smelled really bad, etcSounds like a fake story. But even still, he did something you didn't: take action. He didn't waste time "Trying not to be obvious" and "being her friend". He expressed interest like a man and said it with confidence. You could've done that a year ago and probably got her.>Oh brother if I had a gun right now I'd kill myselfYou should.>When I confronted her about how I liked her over a year and now she appears with this loser, she says she likes a bad boy who's genuine rather than a goody two shoes like meLiterally my point. It's not about being a "bad boy" per se. But being a bad boy comes with favorable traits like confidence, boldness, assertiveness, masculinity, drive, etc. Those things are hot. And a good man can exhibit those. You...don't.>What should I do? Do the exact opposite of what you were doing, i.e. what I wrote above.
>>33821089based. cold hard facts. you sure know you're fuckin' up if you have to do the literal exact opposite of everything you're doing to be successful. usually it's not too literal but in this instance it is
>>33815655I don't doubt this is a real story.However I do believe you're embellishing THE HELL out of it.>She suddenly appears with this guy at least a decade older than her, he looks like he's homeless, his clothes are all dirty and torn, his hair looks filthy, his beard was like a foot long and dirty, he's missing several teeth, he has shitty tattoos all over his face, lots of facial piercings that look infected, he smelled really bad, etcI believed your story was true and even kind of low-key relatable to my younger self until you got to that part.I don't doubt an attractive woman would go for an ugly man as I often see a surprising amount of attractive women with ugly men but the man you made up is just ridiculous. I do believe she could've fallen for an ugly guy but not a hobo like you described. I do indeed believe she could've fallen for an ugly man and that THAT man is real but you definitely just made up the hobo to make us feel pity for you and make the ugly man seem worse than he is.>She starts kissing him in front of everyone and calling him darling>Oh brother if I had a gun right now I'd kill myself>When I confronted her about how I liked her over a year and now she appears with this loser, she says she likes a bad boy who's genuine rather than a goody two shoes like meNot unbelievable but there's no way this was the hobo you're describing. An ugly guy sure but not a hobo. >Since this happened I've already gained over 100 pounds, stopped washing myself or my clothes, stopped exercising, etcOkay I think you made this part up to try to be funny or seem like a lolcow or whatever but if this is actually true then please go to therapy.>What should I do? Why should I work hard only to lose to a homeless loser?Yeah that "homeless loser" is not real, so you technically didn't lose to anyone.
>>33815702>>33815744>>33820628>>33821089>>33822986gotta love all the people here calling out op on his shit
>>33815655First of all never wait over a year. That's way too long. You should only be waiting a month max. After a month it's over. Second make your intentions clear from the beginning. From your story it's clear she thought you were just trying to be her friend. And lastly learn how to handle rejection. This is by far the most important part. No singular woman is that special. Move on and keep trying.
>>33825790Ngl, a month is way too long. But I guess it depends on how often you see the chick. If you see her multiple times a week, then 2 weeks max. But if it's once a week or something I could see 1 month making sense.
>>33825845That's why I said max. Ideally it should be way less than a month but if you're the type of dude who really likes to take his time then a month is the absolute maximum, even though it's still pretty ridiculous. Otherwise you're shit out of luck.
>>33815655your story teaches me to never trust a thing women say. they act like they have super high unattainable standards for men and then pull off shit like this
>>33815655Okay dude. The solution here is simple. Basically do the exact opposite of everything you did. Like just do a complete 180. Ask her out quick, don't try to be her friend, don't act desperate, and be ready to handle rejection.