TLDR: Im an Incel with a gf who makes sex so awful I don't want it, but she cums upwards of 7 times a week.My gf and I have had sex maybe 10 times this year, and when we have sex its usually an awful experience where I have to stop because she is to uncomfortable with my dick.She tells me its because im big but im hardly big at all and Im very accommodating to what she enjoys, I do nothing I enjoy anymore.Those few times we had sex id say I have cum 4 times with her this year, and the sex only lasts about 10 mins max.I can make her cum as many times as I want as quickly or as slowly as I want and she gets this from me on request. This is like probably 3 times per week.She gaslights me into saying she wants to have sex afterwards but then if I take her up on the offer its the worst sex ever and I can tell it ruins her previous multiple orgasms so we just stop.Even yesterday I explained to her in a different way for the 50th time the situation and she said "Is that what im like? Im sorry baby" after I just made her cum 3 times.And yet she has done nothing about it. Can women even change the fact that your to big? Or what is her deal? What do I do why does she say and do this? Am i missing something.Because I have never had this issue with any other girl before. Im gotta be the first incel with a gf.If I were a girl the situation would im giving 7 blow jobs a week but her bf never makes her cum.
So what exactly is the sex like? Do you even have sex or do you get interrupted and stop because it's too big
>>33826167I have had sex with like 20 girls, I know what they act like when they are enjoying it, in my opinion what happens is she cums away the way she likes it, then she looses arousal when she is satisfied and it gets smaller and starts to hurt.But that hurts my feelings in a way where it feels like she just does not give a fuck about my enjoyment.Hence I think the to big comment is fake, but she just tells me I hit her cervix when I'm barely doing anything.This is nor a flex at all btw, first girl that has told me this also.And before people meme all over me, I have had girls that I begged for a relationship with just use me for sex and not want to date, so I have a decent understanding, I'm not a usless lay
>>33826214>Bunch of words>she just does not give a fuck about my enjoyment.This is the only part that matters. Sex is the fruit, desire is the bush. If there's no bush, there's no fruit. You need to tell her to step up or you'll leave, and then if she doesn't do it - actually leave. The moment I stopped having sex with my gf is the moment that we started to lose each other, this girl is using you like a puppet and then completely disregards you. It's not a relationship - you're a locked down real life fleshlight
>>33826214I mean all girls are different but also you dont have to be that big to hit their cervix... my advice is to take control and do only what you want. Then maybe try to satisfy her after. Ive been able to cum, keep going and then cum again. First time i came would be purely physical then the second time would be purely mental, or the other way around depending on situation. Extremly esoteric info btw.
>>33826142>Im an Incel with a gfstopped reading there
>>33826142All right, so: sex is obviously only one fairly minor reason for being in a relationship; there are many other far more important ones. How is the rest of the relationship going?
>>33826214Ok incelCan't you just cum first then
>>33826142>Can women even change the fact that your to big?Sorry, are you expecting her to perform some kind of magical ritual that shrinks your penis?
>>33826214>she just tells me I hit her cervix when I'm barely doing anything.So, have you tried having sex with her on top, and you not moving, so she can control exactly how deep in you go?
>>33826142Yeah man, the truth is that you and your GF likely just aren't meant to be.Sex is a big part of a relationship, especially if you're under 40 & have no kids, and being incompatible in the bedroom is decent grounds to call it quits. You've admitted that you've talked to her about this many times before and nothing has changed.So realistically, you have two options: have a serious conversation about and try to get her to change or call it.
>>33826376Fine, if anything else were wrong id be gone already. The rest is the reason I stay.>>33826378Its really more like 6 soft thrusts and thats it, id like to add she also hates it when I watch porn and Has said to me many times"who cares if you dont cum, you put to much focous on if you cum or not its still sex regardless"Big guilt trip.>>33826398Yeah she can do this just fine, but its all for her and she turns me off, I just fake it until she cums and sit there like a dildo. But yeah this is the only way we have sex and its awful.>>33826407Im 27 and we have been together to long and Im to fucking ugly to get another gf, and My living conditions will be fucking horrendous if I change houses.
>>33826142>>33826426This pic is from 2019 using it cas cant really see my face, I look far less skinny now but this is pretty much what I look like and I have actually tried the dating market a tad to see how I would fare, and made a bunch of friends but women when I ask and say no hate be honest, straight up have said Im to ugly for them to date. All I have going for me is being 6'3Another reason why I need to fix current gf rather than just split up. Id have zero chance
>>33826142Welcome to having a big dick and having sex with a non-whore. Dicklets think having a big dick is the best thing in the world. In reality it goes as you described. Just learn to accept doing what she wants and after 10-15 years she will be able to take a bit more enthusiasm from you. After 30-35 years she will be able to almost deal with you doing what you want. This timeframe can be moved up significantly if she has kids. Do not get her pregnant if you don't love her and are 200% sure you want to both have kids and you want to be with her forever.
>>33826426>Yeah she can do this just fine, but its all for her and she turns me off, I just fake it until she cums and sit there like a dildo. But yeah this is the only way we have sex and its awful.I don't want to be unkind, anon, but if an attractive woman climbing onto your cock and fucking your brains out while she cums over and over is something you don't enjoy, there is something seriously wrong with you.
>>33826473Fucking hell dude, this is exactly what I presumed was the case from being with a mum before, what's your evidence for this? So I can believe u more and not just eco chamber myself
>>33826486She gets exuasted after 2 minutes I'm not exadurating, it's slow sex and she gets off on how sexy I think she is being, and I know it so I play along. She has no raw sex apeal and i can't put my finger on why
5 years in and still no kids? no wonder the west is getting replaced by jeets. what the fuck are you doing?my wife had the same problem, it was all fixed after she gave birth.
>>33826214>>33826244>>33826321>>33826378>>33826514Last bump but Id like to also add, I have to use a condom with her because she does not like how birth-controls make her feel, kinda adds even more downsides to sex.
>>33826142So, first off, your girlfriend is NOT being selfish. Not wanting to do something that is excruciatingly painful is not selfish. Not wanting to engage in sexual acts you absolutely hate is not selfish. The problem is simply that the two of you aren't sexually compatible. Your dick is too big for her. She is happy to have penetrative sex in a way that doesn't hurt - which requires not going too deep and going slowly - but this isn't enjoyable for you. Your dick is probably also too big for her to blow you comfortably (and I wouldn't be surprised if your idea of a good blow job is violent throat fucking). So there simply *isn't* any way the two of you can have sex which is enjoyable, or even tolerable, for both of you. So, what are you going to do about that? Are you going to break up? Are you going to stay together and not have sex at all? Are you going to open up the relationship and both see other people? That's for the two of you to decide. But you both need to accept the fact that the two of you are never going to be able to have sex in a way that works.>inb4 But I do all kinds of things for her I don't enjoy, why can't she do the same for me? 1) The things you do for her may be boring, but they aren't excruciatingly painful. The equivalent would be her wanting to peg you every day with a giant dildo that makes you bleed. You wouldn't be okay with that. 2) It is never okay to try to manipulate someone into doing something they don't want by guilt-tripping them; doubly not when it's something sexual. If you don't enjoy doing those things STOP DOING THEM. Don't blame her because your manipulation skills suck. >inb4 dumb roastie whoreI'm a guy, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>33826442You're a literal chad, get off my board you normie.
>>33826713Id be ok with handjobs and no sex but she thinks they are degrading same with blowjobs.>and I wouldn't be surprised if your idea of a good blow job is violent throat fuckingStop projecting, I have had a girl in the past FORCE me to do that to her once, and I hated it and kept asking if she was ok and told her I never want to do that again.Im gentle.>inb4 But I do all kinds of things for her I don't enjoy, why can't she do the same for me?I enjoy making girls cum? The more I enjoy it the more I feel like im being used when its not reciprocated.>The things you do for her may be boring.??>The equivalent would be her wanting to peg you every day with a giant dildo that makes you bleed. You wouldn't be okay with that.She has never bled from me, other girls have and they were deeper and usually asked for more im not kidding, I just do what girls like. Again im gentle. >She is happy to have penetrative sex in a way that doesn't hurt - which requires not going too deep and going slowly - but this isn't enjoyable for youU should have left it at this and not made me out to be a violent sex monster. Im in denial and the rest of the relationship is good, I really have to drop a girl because the sex is bad? Theres nothing they or I can do? Im actually quiet invested in this "after kids its fine" mentality I can hold out till then, but thats a BIG commitment, Id like more verification.
>>33826716>>33826737Brothers... I have a VERY small amount of sex wearing a condom.I hear storys about my gfs friends doing stuff like licking degenerate guys assholes... like what the fuck? and im here getting nothing.And its hard for everyone out there im to skinny.
>>33826426>Im 27 and we have been together to long and Im to fucking ugly to get another gf, and My living conditions will be fucking horrendous if I change houses.That's probably why she doesn't give a shit about you. If you had the threat of other women around, she would be motivated to care, but she knows she got you.
>>33826744>Id be ok with handjobs and no sex but she thinks they are degrading same with blowjobs.Why are you trying to pressure her into something she finds degrading?>Im gentle.Uh huh. You admitted that your problem with sex with her on top is that it's too gentle and too slow.>She has never bled from me, other girls have You've made other women bleed? And you claim to be gentle?>and they were deeperAnd she isn't: she physically can't take the things you did with other women. Why do you want to make her do things that injure her?>I just do what girls like.But you don't care if you cause her severe pain? That is not what she likes. >The more I enjoy it the more I feel like im being used when its not reciprocated.If you were genuinely acting from unselfish motives - if it was just that you enjoyed making them cum - you wouldn't *care* whether they reciprocated or not. You don't make them cum because you enjoy it, you do it because you want them to feel obligated to do something for you in return; and you get angry when they don't.>Im in denial and the rest of the relationship is good, I really have to drop a girl because the sex is bad? No, of course not. You just have to accept the sex will NEVER be good and decide what you're going to do to adjust to that reality. You could break up; you could stay together and carry on having sex neither of you enjoys very much; you could stay together and stop having sex at all; you could stay together, open up the relationship, and both start having sex with other people (if she's up for that); there are all kinds of possibilities. What you can't do is make the sex better - and really, after five years of this, I would have thought you'd have figured that out by now. Some people just aren't compatible with each other sexually; they may be compatible in other ways, but not when it comes to sex. You and she aren't compatible that way, and never will be. That's a fact: it's up to you how you deal with that fact.
>>33826966Ill entertain this once more even tho you are filling in the blanks with the worst possible thing, Try to be more constructive rather than aggressive.>Id be ok with handjobs and no sex but she thinks they are degrading same with blowjobs.Id counter and ask why is that degrading? I sure as hell never make anything degrading and I hate all manor of that kinda of nonsence, sex for me should be fun and smilly not gross and controlling.>Uh huh. You admitted that your problem with sex with her on top is that it's too gentle and too slow.She gets tired after 2-3 mins and I can do slow but the duration aint there (but same issue I guess)>You've made other women bleed? And you claim to be gentle?SLIGHT rare small tearing (apparently) usually in the opening, and the ones that have told me it happened said its normal and happens, and I made sure to try not to in the future. Its not like there's visible blood for Christ sakes.>If you were genuinely acting from unselfish motives - if it was just that you enjoyed making them cum - you wouldn't *care* whether they reciprocated or not.How it usually works is I just say don't worry you can get me next time and we cuddle and have a nice night, I say something much later like 3 days and she gets upset so I admittedly sook about it but realistically move on and don't pester her. If people saw how i spoke they would call me a beta but i don't care and try to be considerate. And just to put a peg in this whole post like... I DO THINK SHE IS LYING ABOUT THE SIZE BEING TO BIG, Id say im normal, all of this may be mute.>No, of course not. You just have to accept the sex will NEVER be good and decide what you're going to do to adjust to that reality. Fine I will give you this because I had to adjust by finding other ways to please her and have gotten sad that she didn't do the same for me. I think about what u said, no need to assume the worst.
>>33826966I think her dildo is bigger than me also* That she has threatened to use if I don't come and sex her, cas she knows I will. How does that factor in do you think?Yes she uses it.
>>33826142Bump I don't want this to die just yet even tho embarrassing and more confirmation on this is it true and explain more.>>33826473>>33826514If this is a real solution Im sold. I would not make this thread If I didn't love her.
>>33827038>Try to be more constructive rather than aggressive.I'm being constructive. You are in need of some tough love, in the form of having your bullshit called out.>Id counter and ask why is that degrading?This isn't a fucking debate. You don't get to decide what someone else does or does not find degrading. Imagine she wants you to suck another man's dick while she watches. You say "No, that's degrading." She disagrees with you about it being degrading, and you are unable to explain to her why it's degrading in a way that she can understand. Does that mean she has the right to demand that you go ahead and do it? Or does she have to accept that you find it degrading, even if she doesn't understand why? It's the same here. You have to accept that she finds it degrading, even if you don't understand why.>SLIGHT rare small tearing (apparently) usually in the opening, and the ones that have told me it happened said its normal and happens, and I made sure to try not to in the future.Jesus Christ, that is NOT normal! >How it usually works is I just say don't worry you can get me next time and we cuddle and have a nice night, I say something much later like 3 days and she gets upset so I admittedly sook about it but realistically move on and don't pester her.Or, in other words, you don't do it because you enjoy it, you do it in order to make her feel obligated to do something for you in the future. Unless you enjoy it FOR ITS OWN SAKE, with no expectation of reward, you should stop doing it. The problem here is NOT that she doesn't reciprocate, the problem is that you shouldn't be doing it in the first place! If you weren't, you wouldn't be upset about her not holding up her end of a deal that she never agreed to.(1/2)
>>33827038>And just to put a peg in this whole post like... I DO THINK SHE IS LYING ABOUT THE SIZE BEING TO BIG, Id say im normal, all of this may be mute.That is a really fucking bizarre thing to lie about. And the way she behaves is EXACTLY the way a woman would behave if she were telling the truth. But okay, let's pretend you're right: that still doesn't make even the tiniest bit of difference. She still doesn't enjoy having sex with you and doesn't want to have sex with you. *Why* she doesn't want to is irrelevant; all that matters is that she doesn't and you don't have the right to force her to. Now, if it were something else, and she was willing to talk about it, and the two of you could work together to fix it, that might be different. But whatever it is, it seems pretty obvious that either she doesn't want to try fixing it, or it's not fixable; either way, there's nothing you can do. (2/2)
>>33827469>>33827479Ill be honest with you, in a way you sound like her and that makes me more likely to listen to you LOL.Ill be honest with you tho I picture myself showing her this and she would vehemently disagree with everything you said, and assure me that she does enjoy sex with me and probably try to have sex with me on the spot.Does that confirm she hates it with me?
>>33827497And btw id say no cas Id detect her heart aint in it in this hypothetical. MS2S
>>33826214>just use me for sex and not want to datethose are the same thing to moids. you constantly complain about women not wanting to be used for sex>you dont have to be that big to hit their cervixyeah i think its like 3 inches for some women
>>33831951What is a moid? Do I seem like a moid to you?U know guys I have had opportunity to cheat also and I refuse.Both opportunity and ability. Im a man now Im looking for real solutions.The after kid bigger thing seems like a workaround.