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Thoughts?
What have your experiences been?
Are ugly worth it compared to pretty girls or are they as much trouble?
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>>33826218
I have a feeling we need to define terms.
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>>33826218
Genuinely unattractive women sadly tend to have rather low self-esteem, which can be a problem. Other than that, they're great - much less spoiled.
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>>33826218
ugly as in? I've never done the kind you have to switch the lights off in order to get it up but I've fucked a few overweight/below average/older women etc.
I don't regret any of it
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>>33826218
I can’t get ugly women either
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settled for an ugly girl. completely different set of problems and ended up wanting to be a whore anyway when she realized she could. go for the highest looks standard you can obtain, at least the whore will look hot while being a whore and you don't feel like an idiot for wasting years with an ugly smelly bitch when you could have done better.
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>>33826401
>Genuinely unattractive women sadly tend to have rather low self-esteem

well yeah duh she’s unattractive
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>>33826218
Assuming you are above average in looks.
You can get a successful career ugly women which is very convenient, that's life.
It's the only way to get a women with better standing in life than you.
Also, if you are intelligent also, you can have good conversations, for a change. In the long run, this will make life more pleasant.
You'll have good sex, because she is starved, and from abstinence comes enormous energy.

Of course, pretty women are flashy, and your monkey brain can't really help. Just take care of your ugly wife and life will be rewarding.
Also, your children could be average, because dna mixing is mostly random.
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What counts as an ugly girl?
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my experience is that i am an ugly girl. im not sure but i guess that might be the reason why people lookk down at me all the time despite the fact that im quite successful
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>>33826218
I don't know. I am trying to stop doing that flinch you do when you look at something unattractive, since I don't think they appreciate it.
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>>33828633
The value of pussy has reached astronomical levels we can't even agree on objective ugliness anymore

Its over
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>>33826218
i’m an ugly girl
> picrel I look like bottom left but with blunt bangs and more acne and an overbite

the 1 time a guy was interested in me was my first bf who met me with makeup on. we barely dated for 2 months before he broke it off because “i loved him too much” (i didn’t). we never had sex. he said he came hardest when i dirtyspoke to him and did handstuff, but i honestly think he was lying because of how long he lasted every time. it sucks because we (ugly girls) rarely have experience lol.
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>>33828705
* first and only irl bf, i’ve e-dated due to heavy use of filters lol. hellish cycle.
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>>33828705
I look like top left but chubby and asymmetrical. Ugly girls are usually mentally ill and desperate for a normalish bf. They know most incel looking guys are shit though so they stay away from their looksmatch. I managed to get a tall bf that's average face and has hair, but is also autistic. He says I'm much more proactive than most girls and have more male humour. I think he knows I won't cheat or play stupid games.
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>>33828705
You're average lul. Stop deluding yourself.
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>>33826401
i'm as unattractive as a young woman can be and i refuse to lose my virginity because moids make it miserable out of sadism anyway and i dont want brain damage from choking
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>>33828705
I look like middle left combined with bottom left, but look pretty cleaned up and average with contacts and a nice outfit. But I spent my youth fatter, dressing weird, and with acne.
Because of this I have many complexes and am extremely insecure in a relationship and cling on to a scary extent, even if that isn't truly necessary anymore. I spoil my boyfriend and do what >>33828533 mentions but am also controlling and insane and prone to violence, which I'm working on. Much of that is from unrelated childhood trauma though. I also developed a bunch of fixations, and my boyfriend is quite handsome but he's also very short and unemployed because I have a fetish.

Generally I think ugly/ex-ugly girls, just like guys, are more insecure. It's a gamble how this shows up.
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If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So, from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
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>>33830299
>he's also very short and unemployed because I have a fetish
Where do I find girls like you!?
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>>33826218
ugly girls are more likely to cheat
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I categorically refuse to consciously treat an unattractive woman as less of a human being just because of looks. So should you.
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>>33826309
Please clarify.
>>33826433
>>33828633
Chicks that if placed in an attractiveness lineup would be chosen last. Suppose personality is not considered in this example. Or think back on your childhood and remember the times you were picked last for the sports team, it is the female equivalent.
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>>33828705
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>>33830299
Thank you.
Assuming you have the normal desire for a monogamous relationship are there additional obligations I should fill or is loyalty and love enough? The girls I have dated were normal but I was the retard causing problems.
>>33830094
Is chocking normal?
>>33834160
I am uncomfortable around most women and depend on their talkativeness to carry the conversation in the beginning. Ugly girls are more often shy which makes us incapatable at the start but I fear my anxiousness implies a personal attack on their appearance which I lack the charisma to counter.
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>>33826218
I've been in relationships with girls uglier than me and observed others in this situation.
From what I experienced and what I observed, ugly girls are as bad if not worse than normal or beautiful women.

Because of their insecurities they will cheat as much if not more than regular women. This happens because they dont value themselves, but also because they think youre so much better that you're probably cheating, so they might as well. Because theyre ugly men see them as easy targets so they get hit on way more than pretty ones, so they'll have way more options.

Also because theyre insane and insecure to a larger degree, they're much more annoying and will mentally torture you for no reason, just because shes having another episode.

All in all ugly and mid girls are way bigger whores than pretty or gorgeous women.

Dont waste your fucking time with ugos like I did.

Also another aspect is that its humiliating and you'll feel embarrassed in public.
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>>33826401
Absolutely not. In my experience the ugly ones are worse.
What you said applied a decade ago.
But now with social media addiction most women have, these ugly twats have a very overinflated ego and think they're 9s when they're 4s at the very best.
These types disgust me.
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>>33826218
The trick is to find an ugly girl that's still kind of cute in an ugly way.
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>>33826218
I think there's a difference between someone not being conventionally attractive and you personally not finding them attractive.

I have had crushes on girls that I knew were not pretty and if given the chance I would have easily dated them because they had other qualities that I was interested in and I still found them cute in their own way
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>>33826218
I've fucked models that were starfishes in bed and I still get hard thinking back about them
I've fucked mid girls who fucked me like they were going for a championship title doing so and I barely remember them
I've never fucked an ugly girl but I'm guessing I'd want to forget that asap



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