>>33827044
I won't read posts that are too long.

>>33827044
>I once even fumbled a foid who paid for a taxi to the hotel room to have sex.
How the fuck could you fumble that?

>>33827044
maybe try losing the incel lingo

>>33827245
>How the fuck could you fumble that?
well it wasn't exactly a fumble. We didn't get let in so we said we'd do it on the 3rd date and the next day she messaged me saying i'm a nice guy but we're incompatible even though the night before she was talking about how i'll be the hottest guy she ever brought home to her parents.

but yeah I also did fumble a foid that actually did bring me back to her hotel before.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/469212751/


>>33827310
I don't use it in real life.

>>33827393
Uh, they probably can smell the hate and insecurity behind your fake nice guy facade

>>33827425
no, they can't. They ask me to walk them home and shit at night, it's not like they're scared of me. Like I said they always describe me as nice and caring to people when i'm not there.

>>33827458
>describe me as nice and caring
That meaningless. No one describes anyone as nice if the want to fuck them. You still can display some off putting behaviour, it doesn't take that much. And I don't mean you screaming at them or being openly an asshole.

>>33827476
They don't see me as asshole and if anything that's the problem. The last foid who I actually had sex with said she dated a guy at work for 2 years because "he was a scumbag and i'm into that". It's like foids want to be abused and my problem is that I treat people like equals.

>>33827488
>"he was a scumbag and i'm into that". It's like foids want to be abused and my problem is that I treat people like equals.
You just answered your own question on ohw not to fumble foids.

>>33827044
Your issue is that you need more experience or that you're too dumb to learn from experience. I have had to re-learn getting girls so many times at this point that the process is totally familiar. You get in a relationship, you lose your skill, the relationship works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you end up single again. The first 20 girls (maybe the first 50 if it's your first time learning all this shit) you talk to are probably going to fall apart and at least 1 or 2 of them will be in ways that will make you cringe for months, if not years. Being generous, you sound like you have maybe 10 interactions in the last year under your belt? And you might be one those people that needs 50 data points before shit starts sticking. There's no getting around this shit.

When you're single, it's like not fighting for a while (or ever). You're going to get back in the ring and get punched in the face quite a few times. You cannot avoid it. You can't skip it by reading or discussing it. Right off the bat, you're way too emotional and too high in self-monitoring. I can tell just from your post. You think you're going to meditate or come across a line in a book that's going to just wake you up and everything is going to be okay. That's just not how it works. You're going to sleep with a model and then a year later you're going to get nervous talking to a 5/10 if you can even muster the balls to approach her in the first place.

The only thing that fixes that is experience when you learn to stop caring as much. I don't mean in a nihilistic sense either like these blackpill dumb asses, I mean in the sense of an efficiency of process. You're like a crocodile sings and dances and has gills and has 8 legs and has pharyngeal jaws and all this other superfluous shit when you need to become a streamlined simpler being. Your problem isn't necessarily that you lack, it's that you have too much shit going on that you need to drop and again, that comes from experience.

>>33827488
Being an asshole isn't literally being rude, it's being confident and aggressive. Maybe the asshole part is someone not holding the door open for her, but it's subjective. What you need to understand is listening to women talking about men is useless, as they have a different pov and thought process. But being called nice is just not gonna get you anywhere.

>>33827044
considering everything you've said in this thread positively reeks of incel (ironic since you allegedly get laid), it's safe to assume that even if you don't use the lingo irl, it absolutely shines through how you are. so what can you do? maybe try to see women as actual human beings

>>33827685
>you sound like you have maybe 10 interactions in the last year under your belt?
more than that, and like I said it has been dozens over the years. I get approached at least once each time I go clubbing and i've been doing it for multiple weeks now.

It happened with foids I met at clubs, foids I met at work, foids I met through friends and university. It happens each and every single time.

>>33827685
>The only thing that fixes that is experience when you learn to stop caring as much. I don't mean in a nihilistic sense either like these blackpill dumb asses, I mean in the sense of an efficiency of process. You're like a crocodile sings and dances and has gills and has 8 legs and has pharyngeal jaws and all this other superfluous shit when you need to become a streamlined simpler being. Your problem isn't necessarily that you lack, it's that you have too much shit going on that you need to drop and again, that comes from experience.

So how much experience do I actually need? Because i've been actively trying to since I was 17 and i'm 24 now and the most i've gotten was a few makeouts and one unpaid sex this year with a foid that I met through the best circumstances possible and it was still only a miserable hookup.
Now i'm out of uni and it's much harder for me to meet foids. What am I supposed to do? How many more failed talking stages do I need before I am able to find that one 5/10 gf that will want to spend more than the night with me?

>>33827692
why are foids eternal children? I get being into that kind of guy when you're 13 and think it's so heckin' cool but this is a 25yo foid that told me this.

>>33827713
>considering everything you've said in this thread positively reeks of incel (ironic since you allegedly get laid), it's safe to assume that even if you don't use the lingo irl, it absolutely shines through how you are. so what can you do? maybe try to see women as actual human beings
no, it doesn't shine through. I hate this retarded gaslighting from the reddit types. Like I said, foids ask me to walk them home at night, it's not like they're scared of my inkie ways or whatever it is you're trying to say. It's difficult to see them as human beings when they operate a a hivemind. When they think that the 60kg loudmouth midget is masculine because he talks a lot, as opposed to the decently built, taller guy who could snap him in half but he doesn't talk as much so in her eyes he's just a shaky cuck.

I've tried very hard to see them as human beings but I just can't. Not that I let them know this, because like I said, I don't sniff glue or shove crayons inside my asshole so I don't let them know what I think of their childish and idiotic ways.

>>33827044
Are you autistic by any chance?

>>33827745
>their childish and idiotic ways.
And that's the inel part all these redditors here are talking about.
I feel the same way. Women are irrational, stupid and unreliable. But you CAN'T let them know you feel that way. Best thing to do is treat them as if they have the mind of a child

>>33827727
>more than that, and like I said it has been dozens over the years. I get approached at least once each time I go clubbing and i've been doing it for multiple weeks now.
Over the years, I've had, I would guess a thousand interactions or so. When I break up, I still bomb out to varying degrees on the first 20-30 girls I talk to because you lose it if you don't use it. It's going to vary from person to person, but after going through this process so many times at this point, it feels like an interaction "heats you up" for a couple weeks at best. One good, college try interaction a week is enough to heat you up that by about the 20th girl, you're probably in the "I can fuck this girl" zone.

You should be comfortable enough with interactions though that each day you can put some productive interaction in with a girl. Even ones you aren't attracted to build your comfort level up. It's like the gym in that you have to keep getting in there consistently, but also while you're there you actually have to be present and deliberately improving. Really simply, it's great you're getting approached. That's a good sign, but you're not taking something away from these experiences that seems to be making you confident that after like 15 more of them, you'll be knocking it out of the park which is how you should feel.

You refer to women as "foids" as well which seems to indicate something. I'm not saying to worship women like some reddit simp, far from it, but calling a girl a "foid" seems to indicate you have some perceptual issues that might be holding you back.

>When they think that the 60kg loudmouth midget is masculine because he talks a lot, as opposed to the decently built, taller guy who could snap him in half but he doesn't talk as much so in her eyes he's just a shaky cuck.

I'll just stop and say that we'll assume everything you say is true and women approach you, you're good looking, etc., but you have some MASSIVE "inner game" issues bare minimum.

>>33827823
>Over the years, I've had, I would guess a thousand interactions or so. When I break up, I still bomb out to varying degrees on the first 20-30 girls I talk to because you lose it if you don't use it. It's going to vary from person to person, but after going through this process so many times at this point, it feels like an interaction "heats you up" for a couple weeks at best. One good, college try interaction a week is enough to heat you up that by about the 20th girl, you're probably in the "I can fuck this girl" zone.
never happened to me. I fucked one girl in my 24 years alive and despite her texting me to netflix and chill I never managed to fuck her again and now I am basically non-existent to her when we're together.

>>33827823
>You should be comfortable enough with interactions though that each day you can put some productive interaction in with a girl
Who do you think I am? I am a 24 year old man that's finished with uni, it's not like I go out partying everyday. There aren't that many foids I can talk to anymore besides when I hit the bars/ clubs alone nowadays on weekends.

>>33827839
I kinda wanna hang out with you, I am looking for a bro to hang out in bars and such but I don't know anyone cool enough

>>33827909
*I don't know anyone I want to hang out with and vice-versa

>>33827839
Alright so here's the most fundamental thing: State. This is a function of 2 things...1) Your lifestyle, values, and so on. If I was able to take a movie reel of your day to day life internal and external, I would be able to determine this aspect of your state just by watching how you live each day. The things you say to yourself and others, the people you spend time with, the stuff you do in your spare time. Not all lifestyles are created equal and certain ways of being make you more or less attractive to women, not only on their surface, but because they seep into the way you carry yourself and make you ACT more attractively passively. 2) The actual physiological aspects of how you carry yourself, tone of voice, body language, self-talk, beliefs, etc.

I bring this up only because
>Who do you think I am? I am a 24 year old man that's finished with uni, it's not like I go out partying everyday. There aren't that many foids I can talk to anymore besides when I hit the bars/ clubs alone nowadays on weekends.
I'm the sort of guy that thinks based on what you're saying, you're a decently attractive dude (you get approached more than I do from what you say) who has some deleterious beliefs and ways of seeing the world that are holding him back from flourishing as much as he could. Who do YOU think you are? I think your mind is your enemy here because it often is for most guys and that's fed by how you live each day, see yourself, and see others.

>>33827927
>never happened to me. I fucked one girl in my 24 years alive and despite her texting me to netflix and chill I never managed to fuck her again and now I am basically non-existent to her when we're together.
See, and now I'm the opposite. I fuck a girl, any girl, and can't get rid of her and my issue I'm grappling with right now is that I've slept with so many attractive girls that I can't bring myself to sleep with even 7s because I know they get addicted and I have to then hurt them. What's really the difference between you and I? Assume we're both attractive guys. I don't worship women. I've been called a misogynist, but it's highly possible that I've simply organized my belief system (women aren't equals basically) into something that at the very least doesn't impede the way I interact with women. Calling them "foids" feels like evidence you're deriving way too much of your identity from the internet communities you are a part of. I don't even know you, but I'm pretty sure that you can be better than that.

>>33827937
What if I'm just really fuckig weird?

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>>33827044
I decided, starting now, I won't read or address threads or replies that use the words "foids" or "moids", kill yourself

>>33827951
Do you feel that's serving you?

>>33827909
where do you live?

>>33827927
>Alright so here's the most fundamental thing: State. This is a function of 2 things...1) Your lifestyle, values, and so on. If I was able to take a movie reel of your day to day life internal and external, I would be able to determine this aspect of your state just by watching how you live each day. The things you say to yourself and others, the people you spend time with, the stuff you do in your spare time. Not all lifestyles are created equal and certain ways of being make you more or less attractive to women, not only on their surface, but because they seep into the way you carry yourself and make you ACT more attractively passively. 2) The actual physiological aspects of how you carry yourself, tone of voice, body language, self-talk, beliefs, etc.
my life isn't all that interesting, sure, but neither is the life of most normies whose weekends consist of getting drunk and maybe going to the gym and on an occasional hike or surf. I went to uni, had a job, went to the gym, overall a mediocre existence but this hasn't stopped others from getting laid. It's not like I have to be a potential husband. The last foid asked me about netflix and chill. Why do I need to be some super fun guy for that to work? She was physically attracted to me. Is that not enough?

>>33827959
I don't really know. Probably not?

>>33827965
>where do you live?
In central Europe... You're probably fro mthe US though, haha

>>33827927
>I'm the sort of guy that thinks based on what you're saying, you're a decently attractive dude (you get approached more than I do from what you say) who has some deleterious beliefs and ways of seeing the world that are holding him back from flourishing as much as he could. Who do YOU think you are? I think your mind is your enemy here because it often is for most guys and that's fed by how you live each day,
Well, right now i'm a NEET. With the last foid who I failed with after actually having sex I had a mental breakdown basically and all i've been doing is drinking and gooning and yet I managed to actually make a female friend that I go out with sometimes. I asked her out on a date but she said she wasn't ready to date yet. I'm not really physically attracted to her anyway.

But yeah, it'll take a while for me to pick myself back up.

>>33827937
>See, and now I'm the opposite. I fuck a girl, any girl, and can't get rid of her and my issue I'm grappling with right now is that I've slept with so many attractive girls that I can't bring myself to sleep with even 7s because I know they get addicted and I have to then hurt them. What's really the difference between you and I? Assume we're both attractive guys. I don't worship women. I've been called a misogynist, but it's highly possible that I've simply organized my belief system (women aren't equals basically) into something that at the very least doesn't impede the way I interact with women. Calling them "foids" feels like evidence you're deriving way too much of your identity from the internet communities you are a part of. I don't even know you, but I'm pretty sure that you can be better than that.
I don't worship them either though. It's not like I overtext them or show some huge enthusiasm. I just try to treat them like normal human beings, like I would with my guy friends. I definitely do not give off worshiping vibes, in the past foids and normies used to tell me I act asexual.

>>33827969
I live in the British Isles. I go geomaxxing to Poland sometimes in the summers though. I'll probably be going this summer.

>>33827983
Yeah I've been to Poland recently, I got hit on there like twice, but I was staying only for one night and I DID NOT want to have a one-night stand, so I rejected them.
How as your experience in Poland? I like the lack of immigrants, but they can barely speak any English

>>33827965
>Why do I need to be some super fun guy for that to work?
You don't need to be SUPER fun, but the line "girls just want to have fun" actually sums them up pretty damn well. It's cliche as Hell, but it's useful to keep in mind and reflect on the implications of it as a real part of the landscape you need to navigate. It might feel goofy, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try to cultivate a trait of at least mild adventurousness because it tends to give you an edge. Think of it as wearing make up for your personality. Ideally you don't need to do plastic surgery on your personality, state, lifestyle, etc., but some people probably do if they want to play the odds.

>She was physically attracted to me. Is that not enough?
I think you know the answer to that. Physical attraction is important, but women are so feelings and vibe based that it can only carry things so far on average. Remember, it's all probability and so the physical is going to get you different distances by default and it's sure as Hell better to be physically attractive than not, but it's going to cap out sooner than most people think as far as the outcomes you're going to get. At a certain point, you have to layer more onto it.

>Well, right now i'm a NEET. With the last foid who I failed with after actually having sex I had a mental breakdown basically and all i've been doing is drinking and gooning and yet I managed to actually make a female friend that I go out with sometimes.
There you go. It sounds like you're just in a temporary rut and you're being a bit more introspective and down on yourself (or the world to some extent maybe) rather than just flowing with life. It happens to everyone. You'll be alright, just try to get out of your own head. Again, it sounds like the way you're seeing the world right now is your issue and so you have to pull at some threads to try to shift that back to something more useful for you.

>>33828078
Holy shit, your comment... it makes me realize once again that women are so fucking retarded.
Am I in hell?

>>33827044
moids: if you have been abused multiple times, ALWAYS BY MOIDS, the common denominator is you!!! chose better moids even though we admit that we're all the same!
also moids:

>>33828781
moids admit that they all just want to rape and torture women, and you get triggered when we believe you

>>33830062
>>33830068
foids like the kinds of men that like to rape and torture foids.

>>33827713
This is retarded reddit tier advice. I'm a chronic woman hating trucel but nobody irl could ever tell. Multiple girls I've met have actually assumed I had gfs before.

>>33830068
>you get triggered when we believe you
No I don't

>>33830672
>muh anecdotes

>>33827044
You sound super naive but then again you’re 24. So basically if you don’t already understand women today are all chasing the thrill. Once one thrill is over they have to go seek a new one. None of them are looking for longevity unless they’re over 35. And those are the ones who are the most used up and most unhappy. If a bitch ain’t starting a family in her 20s then her genes are dead. It’s literally over by that point. You’re young but you shouldn’t be acting like you’re going to have all this vitality forever. It’s up to you but I would be looking at careers and starting a family. Let go of the chases and thrills with dead end women dude.

if you are neurodivergent in any way they will sniff it out and reject you

it's part of the hylic npc algorithm

>>33831291
...better than le what you type on 4chan shines through in real life lmao

>>33830672
>I'm a chronic woman hating trucel but nobody irl could ever tel
They can tell. The only people who can't are either exceedingly trusting and nice or exceedingly dumb.
>Multiple girls I've met have actually assumed I had gfs before.
Are you the OP?
If so, why then in YOUR OWN STORIES do the girls instantly lose interest after a possible initial attraction? Oh right, because they quickly realize you're actually some weird fag instead of the cool guy you might initially present as. You're like a chad false flag.
Looks are NOT the only thing, just the first barrier to entry. But no matter how many times people here try to tell you that some of you just refuse to get it.

>>33827044
>OP is a bore, ignoramus and NPC and wonders what's wrong
I won't read threads that diss the nazis (who were not misogynist) and I won't read libtard , politically correct OPs. The women realize OP is a fake.

>>33827044
>How to stop fumbling foids
I haven't even read whatever BS you wrote but you can start with
>foids
Stop that. You're instantly separating yourself from them in your mind. It does absolutely nothing to help if you constantly view things through the lens of
>I'm separate from them. I am in a different category than them
You're trying to have a relationship. You need to...*relate* to do that. And your mindset is preventing that before you even open your mouth.
>>33827393
>I don't use it in real life
You don't need to, nigger. It's subconscious in your mind and is projected into everything you fucking do lol. It's like calling yourself a bitch in your head all day and expecting to have confidence or something. It doesn't work like that.

>>33830174
if that was true, all moids would be drowning in pussy. instead, there is a moid horniness epidemic.
>>33831284
then shut up
>>33831440
LMFAO im dx with autism and let me tell you. moids hate nothing more than a woman who isnt brainwashed

>>33832009
Nobody cares what trannies have to say

>>33827044
>I once even fumbled a foid who paid for a taxi to the hotel room to have sex.
Greentext this pls

>>33832009
Uh oh melty

>>33832129
>Greentext this pls
Whaht?

>>33827044
>(i'm unironically not a racist)
Probably this is what repels them.

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>>33827044
>OP meets up with girl who's been lusting after his ass
>OP starts mumbling and grumbling about his miserable life (even though he's still young and can turn it around at any time if he really wanted to)
>OP clenches his fists and put s them in his pockets, closing himself off from the girl
>Girl notices his ominous vibe and hears him whispering "foid" a few times
>Girl gets scared and runs off
>OP doesn't know why she left
Is this accurate, OP?

>>33827044
You’re boring

>>33832872
Nah boringness isn't enough to ward girls off like that. It must be some other real major red flags

>>33827044
>girls approach me and want me
>boo hoo woe is me
fuck you nigger

>>33832887
kek

>>33827458
>They ask me to walk them home and shit at night
Kek, please elaborate? Why would a woman ask you to shit at night?

>>33833429
I think he meant it like "and stuff", not literal "shit"

>>33827425
>>33827310
God shut the fuck up whale

>>33827044
>she treats me like an asexual, crippled chihuahua at best.
Did you have sex with any of them? Did you show interest in them? Did you tell them that you wanted them to stay with you?

>>33831953
>You don't need to, nigger. It's subconscious in your mind and is projected into everything you fucking do lol. It's like calling yourself a bitch in your head all day and expecting to have confidence or something. It doesn't work like that.
hello rebbit

,

>>33827044
>Why do all of them think and act the exact same way
Literally a you problem my man, because YOU are the common factor here

>>33827044
sounds like a sexual skill issue
have you tried grinding your face on their pussy?

>>33835826
*common denominator

>>33827727
>why are foids eternal children? I get being into that kind of guy when you're 13 and think it's so heckin' cool but this is a 25yo foid that told me this.
because they stop mentally developing around 13-16. have you SEEN female majority workplaces? they're as dramafilled as high school

>>33827488
>>33827692
>Being an asshole isn't literally being rude
I have a younger brother who is actually a rude delinquent, like he steals shit from stores and restaurants, vapes indoors even when people tell him to stop, still lives with my mom, and gets into literal all-day arguments with other people in our family (the "ten hour Anon-brother freakout" is a phrase one of my sisters actually coined, she as a female finds it embarrassing).
He gets more ass than a toilet seat and he's not even six feet.
Modern women are brain-damaged, we live in late stage decadence. The world has been feminized and negrofied (consider most negroes are raised by single moms). Until real men step up and seize the moment it's not going to change. I've already beaten the shit out of that delinquent brother several times for bad behavior but stopped because it made my mom sad, the next time it comes to blows I'm just gonna disfigure him permanently, knock out some teeth and fracture his jaw.

It's time to start being a standup guy again, especially if you're big and strong. And carry a gun.

>>33827044
Stop being a nice guy aka undercover misogynist. If you don't respect women they won't respect you. Decent people do not use the words like foods and le (unironically).

>>33827044
>I am described as a nice and caring guy, so it's not like i'm some le soggy knees asshole that exposes his Nazi views on the first date
>she treats me like an asexual, crippled chihuahua at best.

You're a "nic guy", a fag without a mind of his own. You're physically attractive and apprently liekable on first glance, but on getting to know you more your feminized faggotry shows itself, hence they stop percieving you as a sexual man.

>>33827245
By not acting liek a sexual man and unironically engaging in faggotry instead of grabbing her by the pussy, duh.

>>33827393
>We didn't get let in so we said we'd do it on the 3rd date

Why the fuck would you ever, ever do such a thing. A man desiring her so little that he can rationally plan when to have sex like setting up a dentist appointment is the ultimate turnoff for women. It makes them feel undesirable.
Women enjoy rape phantasies, because to them a man desiring them so much that he is willing to risk his life just to fuck her is hot ( in phantasy, they don't like getting actually raped) .
Along come you and whip out your little pocket planner when she is rubbing her wet pussy in your face. Cringe bro, cringe!

>>33836236
What kind of girls does he attract though?

>>33836236
>fag shit

He gets pussy because he has no inhibitions and no shame about desiring women unlike you "nice guy" faggots.
Try often enough and you will land, its inevitable. Being a castrated "standup guy" who defends M'lady and would never be so crass as to desire sex with her openly has never and will never get you pussy.And no, taht gold digging arranged marraige wife is still going to prefer the gardeners cock to yours, you may stop hallucinating about ye good olden times. SImps have not ever gotten pussy, period.

>>33827200
>that is too long
You are retarded.

>>33837211
So it's being a simp to...not steal shit? To respect society
Yeah you're a little delinquent too, I'd fucking knock your teeth out of your smug mouth you little queerboy

no

>>33827044
over

>>33827969
I am from central Europe, we can meet if you want. I am not who you would typically call a "cool guy" desu I am bit of selfhating geek with interest in home gym , music, books and programming

>>33837211
Gardener would fuck trophy wife precisely just because he is hot, not because he acts rude or confident or high-status (he is obviously lower status than mansion owner) or any kind of bullshit

it's over

>>33844950
yes

>>33827044
If you're hot enough to be approached by females, then probably your autism or some other low-social status behavior is making her lose her initial attraction to you.

>>33827393
>We didn't get let in
Everyone gets ghosted every time this happens.

If you have a girl at your place for the first time, but don't have sex, she goes home and backwards rationalizes that you weren't attractive enough to have sex with and you end up getting friendzoned or ghosted.


t. playboy

>>33849452
>she goes home and backwards rationalizes that you weren't attractive enough to have sex with and you end up getting friendzoned or ghosted.
OR she's insulted that you OP thought she wasn't hot enough to fuck. Insulted, she ghosts him in rage. Your perspective stems from your insecurity.

>>33827044
https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math
https://thepowermoves.com/pimpology/

>>33827044
,

>>33849978
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