Are nightclubs even the best way to meet a girl? because in my experience when I go out to clubs the women are most of the time either with a boyfriends or a group of friends and plus they’re would be a number of other guy’s that are more attractive than me that woman can choose from, while me being a light skinned black guy who’s only 5’8 and over 200 ibs and has autism.
>>33828150I used to go to nightclubs and raves throughout my 20s and 30s and I very rarely see girls going home with guys they met there instead of guys they brought there. Girls can get as much dick as they want through The Phone. Going out to score a ONS isn't really a thing anymore. You'd have to be lucky enough to encounter a woman who has such hots for you that she'll pick you, a stranger, right then and there over the dozen or so options she's juggling on The Phone.
do you like dark rooms with flashing lights and music so loud your ears will be ringing the next day?
>>33828202Also this, clubbing for the sake of clubbing kind of fucking sucksI'll still go out to a club or rave if there's an artist I like playing, or if I get invited by friends, but my days of just going to hit the club because it's Friday are over. All you usually get is hearing damage and a big bar bill.
>>33828150night clubs only work if youre a hot chad and preferribly borderline retarded. Its not meant for autistic dudes to whoo women with their charm or wit or whatever. Its just hot people seeing other hot people and griding on them with little to no real talking.
>>33828150Do you have friends, anon? Why not ask them this question? Why not ask them to set you up with someone?If you have no friends, don't you think you have a bigger problem to solve?
>>33828150>Are nightclubs even the best way to meet a girl?No. There is no magic one big optimal place or action you take to meet a girl.
>>33828150>over 200 ibsUnless you're some kind of maniacally extroverted charisma cannon, forget it. You don't need to be sixpack abs ripped or anything, but if you're fat, no chance. Club is an environment thats about looks. Your height is just average, not a bonus not a malus.>>33828180>I very rarely see girls going home with guys they met thereBecause most often you just make out and get a number, not every woman is DTF straight away. Also they make sure you don't see it, never underestimate how scared they are of the slut branding. Sometimes they pull weird shit like ambush you at the Taxi stand and stuff like that. >Girls can get as much dick as they want through The Phone.Shit quality dick, that is. Its either desperate losers or internally dead gymbros looking for tonights fleshlight. No man with a life and social skills has to use that trash. Why do you think those things user base is like 80% men?>a woman who has such hots for you that she'll pick you, a stranger, right then and thereI'll let you in on a secret: It basically never has anything to do with her "having such hots for you". A woman fucking that fast almost always is looking for some fast dick for some reason anyways, and as long as you're fuckable, you're up. You're just coping honestly, night clubs are fairly superficial places, and unless you're at last a 6/10, better 7/10 you can scratch that.
>>33828150Whatever you do, don't join dance (tango/salsa) class or yoga. They'll just see you as a creep. Of course, like everything else, things are different if you're a chad.
>>33828353>You're just coping honestly, night clubs are fairly superficial places, and unless you're at last a 6/10, better 7/10 you can scratch that.lol in the first part of your post seemed like you were trying to refute him but in the end you just agreed with him.
>>33828376It's an AI LLM bot. That's why it makes no sense.
>>33828353>No man with a life and social skills has to use that trash. Why do you think those things user base is like 80% men?You're pretty ignorant if you think I meant only Match Inc dating apps. Men who they meet IRL and exchange number with, randos on social media like instagram, her fucking work colleagues, all these men exist in an average woman's Phone.
>>33828150Used to be.Before greedy corps turned human mating in 'sex as a service'.Sorry for you being young nowadays.
>>33828376Nah, I wanetd to refute the whole crying about online dating and women havign endless options thing, not that nightculbs aren't superficial places. Also you don't need to be the hottest guy shes ever seen or anything, but you do need to pass the bar for fuckable. >>33828388>Men who they meet IRL and exchange number with, randos on social media like instagram, her fucking work colleagues, all these men exist in an average woman's Phone.Thats not a lot, a ton of them turn out ot be idiots, a ton of her work colleagues are in a relationship, etc. etc.You don't expect to be the absolutely only option for a woman at any given time, do you?Unless you're a total sperg or shut in, you will also have multiple women in your phone you are currently talking to. Thats all a far cry from "endless options". We all meet people, and if it only happens once a year you are doing something wrong.
>>33828470>You don't expect to be the absolutely only option for a woman at any given time, do you?No shit you moron, that's the whole point of why it's useless to try to meet women in clubs or hook up there. It's something that does not exist in a post-smartphone world because women do not lack for options at all>Thats not a lot, a ton of them turn out ot be idiots, a ton of her work colleagues are in a relationship, etc. etc.Doesn't matter, they're all trying to get into her pants and it all feeds her ego. Doesn't matter if the goofy beta male orbiter will never get laid, he still makes the number of options go up.>Unless you're a total sperg or shut in, you will also have multiple women in your phone you are currently talking to. Thats all a far cry from "endless options". We all meet people, and if it only happens once a year you are doing something wrong.You drastically overestimate the options men have compared to women. Like, DRASTICALLY. Almost every man who meets an average looking woman will want to fuck her. Almost no woman who meets an average looking man will want to fuck him. Almost every man a woman meets, unless he's gay or family, is in some small corner of his mind considering how to fuck her. Don't know why I'm explaining this to an LLM though.
>>33828180This, last time I went out 3/10s were acting like 7/10s. Some were there with their boyfriend or whatever and would try to taunt you to approach them so that their male can step in "save" them and cause some drama, to make him jealous and for her to feel desired that men fight over her. Women are so retarded, don't fall for their tricks.
nonightclubs are normie traps
>>33828150>Are nightclubs even the best way to meet a girl?Not unless you really like nightclubs> they’re would be a number of other guy’s that are more attractive than me that woman can choose fromThey can't choose from them if they don't come up to the women. Most guys do not approach. Women can only choose from those that actually do something.>while me being a light skinned black guy who’s only 5’8 and over 200 ibs and has autism.Who gives a fuck? Simply going up to a woman puts you above 60+% of men instantly. Now add working on your style / choosing clothes that you look good in, speaking skills, confidence, and hygiene. All of that puts you above 90% of men instantly. Find women by pursuing shit you're interested in outside of your home.
This is not 1994 so unless you live in Las Vegas or say Denmark do not bother.The kind of woman that frequent clubs in most cities now are utter whores. You won't get a quality relationship in 99% of cases you'll get a STD and a stolen wallet.
>>33831275It's not worth it in most places. Hasn't been since the early 2000s, I used to work at one saw the decline in real life.The only people pushing them now are PUA's trying to sell you their "course", night club promotors and people pretending they know what they're talking about who haven't actually set foot in a bar let alone a club in 10+ years.
>>33832083>Who gives a fuck? Simply going up to a woman puts you above 60+% of men instantly.Absolute bullshit. You sound like a 60yo boomer with this advice or just want anon to humiliate himself. Bitches show clear signs to men they want to fuck.>>33828353>Your height is just average, not a bonus not a malus.No female wants average height. Go outside. The younger guys with girls are all 6'3" at a minimum if you're in Europe or the US.>inb4 more cope about confidence
>>33832525I love when faggots call bullshit and provide no solutions aside from>You're not 6ft? You're just fucked>Having confidence is cope. Never mind that regular ugly men somehow get wives>Going up to women doesn't mean shit! Most men are too afraid to do it so you shouldn't do it either!Not everybody needs to be as pusillanimous as you, anon. Yeah you're gonna get rejected sometimes, but you learn and improve. Or what? Just stay at home and fuck your fist for the rest of your life?
>>33832533How old are you, boomer?
>>33832539No, tell us what the anon should do instead, faggot. Stop distracting.
>>33832542Kek. >back in my day, men used to approach girls!!
>>33832548God, this AI bot is so shitty, lol. Can't even answer basic questions. This is so obvious. Tell your dev he sucks ass haha
>>33828150Night clubs are not dating rooms. They're attention factories for women. They don't go there to meet someone they go there to say they went there.
>>33828150It is impossible to find a gf in current year.
>>33832504>The kind of woman that frequent clubs in most cities now are utter whores.ah yes, unlike all those pure and whole delicate virgin angels that used to get drunk and do blow at clubs in the good old days (?)
>>33831275>Some were there with their boyfriend or whatever and would try to taunt you to approach them so that their male can step in "save" them and cause some drama, to make him jealous and for her to feel desired that men fight over her.Good lord I fucking hate this. Especially when their boyfriends aren't even there and they just take videos over snapchat or something. Fucking commit to the bit and make out with me you hoes
>>33828303Taken as a whole, no one has real life friends anymore.But having friends wouldn't necessarily help him. For example, I had friends in my mid 20s but they were all in the same boat as me. They didn't know what to do any better than I did, so the scenario you're describing never happened.So the problem with your comment is that you didn't go far enough.You didn't tell him that courtship has been dead and immolated for decades now. >>33828344You as well. You don't go far enough. True, there's no one good spot.But there used to be many good spots.And none of them exist now.NO ONE meets in real life now.>So, dating sites is what you're saying?Those have cratered too.>>33828368All accurate. I have nothing to correct or extend about what this guy is saying here.Same with this guy. >>33828410And this guy. >>33831448This anon is retarded. >>33828470The guy who replied, fucking destroyed him. >>33829090 Bravo, my boy. Money cannot buy the honor you have earned tonight.
>>33828150I think if you're not someone who naturally wound up in the clubbing scene, trying to force it is going to lead to pain and awkwardness. People thrive in their element, and drown when they're out of it.
>>33828150Nightclubs are generally where groups of friends go to hang out with each other. At least that how it was back I was in the scene in the 2010s, might be different now. You'll occasionally have your group mingle with another group, but usually it's just out having fun with who you go with.
>>33833480What makes it maddening is that EVERY OTHER ACTIVITY is exactly the same way.
There is 0 reason to ever step foot in a night club. The music sucks, the people suck, the drinks suck, everything sucks. You can probably get a girl there if you're gigachad, but you can get a girl anywhere if you're gigachad so it doesn't fucking matter.
>>33828150I'm an old fag that hasn't been inside a club for probably 7 or 8 years now. I managed to pull once somehow, it's how I lost my virginity. Only time I ever did that and then I proceeded to never have sex again until I met my gf 4, or was it 6, years later.This would have been in 2013 or so and I have absolutely no fucking idea what the kids are doing these days. I live in a university town and they were all lined up at like 8pm to get into the clubs. Showing up before like 11 would have been unimaginable in my time.
>>33833508Yeah, the advice of 'ingratiate yourself into a community for months and months, develop friendships, and maybe one of those friendships will lead to something more' is really unhelpful. The two realistic options for meeting people are dating apps and coworkers. Coworkers are a really bad idea, but it's extremely common.
>>33833571>The two realistic options for meeting people are dating apps and coworkersSo, zero.Zero realistic options.
>>33833571>Coworkers are a really bad ideaIs this an American thing? Genuinely don't understand why people think fucking a coworker is so awful. I met my to be wife at work and skipped apps entirely. Most policies are just against supervisor/subordinate relationships. Beyond that it's nobody's business who you fuck. I literally work in HR and don't give a fuck what you do outside of work, it's none of my business.
>>33833612Okay but what if your date didn't go so well?
>>33833620You don't go on another. That's generally what happens after a bad date. And if that's the case don't gossip about it like school girls. Its only a problem if someone makes it a problem and most adults dont turn it into one.
>>33833670Man that is the most optimistic thing I've ever heard in my life.And I mean that in the most cynical way possible.
>>33833688Touch grass bud. Real life isn't a Jezebel article. You're the type of fag to never ever try anything because oh no what if it isn't perfect.
>>33833612It's not a bad idea because of the HR concerns. It's a bad idea because if things fall apart and you get hurt and upset, you still have to see the other person every day and act cordial toward them.Despite that, I'm not advising against the idea. Just giving a warning. In the absence of better options, people gotta make due with what's available. Any port in a storm, right?I personally have been involved with a coworker. Worked with her for 9 years, dated for the last 3. She dipped on me without any explanation. Hurt like you wouldn't believe. Now I have to work in close quarters with her every day and smile like the past didn't happen.
>>33833697>Real life isn't a Jezebel articleNo faggot, it's worse.> You're the type of fag to never ever try anything because oh no what if it isn't perfect.I gave all advice a fair shake.And now my observations have finally FINALLY hit the mainstream.No one's getting married. Birth rates are cratering. Most men are getting fucking nothing, and yet virtually no women after 18 are virgins. It's OVER.
>>33833587Life is hard. Didn't anyone ever tell you that? Life is brutal. The odds are always against you. It sounds like you're in your twenties, maybe younger. You need to get it through your head that no one's going to come save you. A beautiful girl isn't going to 'discover' you while you complain on an imageboard. If you want take part in this shitty game the rest of us are playing, you need to suck it up and wade into these frigid, miserable waters.Or don't. The world will be perfectly happy to forget you exist while you grow older and older.
>>33833739Oh dear god shut the fuck up, you won't even help when it comes time to repeal the 19th. You'll be drag the entire goddamn way there. You speak entirely in platitudes and projections.All I'm asking is that you be HONEST with people after accosting you with the stats. Don't tell them they have a chance.Tell them what they'll actually be dealing with.I got boomer advice for the entirety of my teens and 20s. None of them (NONE OF THEM) imagined it would get this bad. But I did. Stop. Lying.
>>33833739>Or don't. The world will be perfectly happy to forget you exist while you grow older and older.It's not like the world gave him a chance in the first place if he was born short or with an average/below average face. Why would non-Chads try hard? To finally get a fat single mother in their 30s? Literally no point when anyone can buy hot escorts with any job.>inb4 just become the next Jeff Bezos or Tom Cruise, it's easy broKek, you're a predictable NPC with no original thoughts.
>>33833730Meeting a beautiful woman is not like meeting a demon it is like meeting a millionare. They're doing it out of protection anon! They're just being cautious trying to live a normal life! Fucking Hell, they don't know you're some guy whose gonna kidnap her for extortion? Alright! Now there is a way through this, but you need to stop shaming women for being elitists.
>>33833796ABSOLUTE.FUCKING.BABBLE.
>>33833802WILL YOU CONTINUE ON AS USUAL INSTEAD OF WHINING ALL THE TIME
>>33828150it ended in 2020 according to my calculation
>>33828150No, only workplace is the best one place to meet and find a girlfriend!!!
>>33833730>Real life is worseNo. And that graph you posted is misleading. Yes, that's how they judge you with online dating and when they don't know you. But when they get to know you they become more pragmatic and realistic. You wouldn't know that because you're an armchair theorist. You don't actually go out and try things. You don't watch hoe_math on youtube or tiktok who has all kinds of charts like this and breaks it down. https://www.tiktok.com/@hoe_math/video/7265825405293038891He literally explains why your chart is wrong by itself.>>33833796I could never hate a woman for being the thing I like lol. Dude needs to take a chill pill
>>33834117Nah nah nah shut the fuck up, that's far from the only receipt and it's embarrassing that you're even attempting this. Again, all of this has already hit the mainstream. Where have you BEEN, you facile motherfucker.How do these sentences even escape you without snagging onto scrutiny of any kind.>Yes, that's how they judge you with online dating and when they don't know you. >>>But when they get to know you--THEY WILL NOT GET TO KNOW YOU.EVER.THINK ABOUT IT FOR MORE THAN A SECOND YOU STUPID FREAK.DON'T ASSUME HAVING A VIDEO MEANS HAVING THE ARGUMENT IN THE BAG.
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>>33834135>>33834149>>33834171You're talking to someone who literally got a girls Number at the grocery store on Saturday. I don't give a fuck about any of those graphics. I'm not going to let some fist fucking faggot convince me that getting women is impossible, lol. Impossible for YOU maybe. But fuck you. I'm getting at these women. Peace.
>>33834185I don't believe you. But let's see how much of your story you can keep consistent.Tell me your height.You switched the goalposts from online to offline, btw.
>>338341935'10">Muhh it is impossible to date a woman if you arent 6'7">*Ignores all the short dudes who have bitches* >You switched goalpostsYou can't switch goalposts in the first response, lol. That's called refuting your bullshit, dumbass.I'm calling it now. It's gonna be a fuckton of bullshit going back and forth. Stupid graphics that I've already debunked and you claiming victory by focusing on minutiae that don't change the overall point. You already deleted your previous post >>33834189because you didn't make enough non-applicable points.
>>33834200I deleted the previous post over grammar mistakes. And added another line while it occurred to me.It's a lack of intellect to try to win the argument that way.Anyway, >>*Ignores all the short dudes who have bitches*I literally don't know anyone around here who isn't single. And like I said earlier, birth rates and marriage rates are cratering. You didn't know this shit? Putting 'muh' infront of a statement doesn't erase it.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1761007131913789.mp4>You can't switch goalposts in the first response, lol. That's called refuting your bullshit, dumbass.We were talking about online dating and then you switched to an offline thing. Not that it matters, as you're lying about the grocery store thing. It's kind of the go-to brainless suggestion that always gets thrown around (next to libraries, and bookstores.) You thought of it as the most common thing, so you said it. It didn't happen to you. If it did, you would've told the story with some sort of color. But you didn't. You won't. Because you can't.>Stupid graphicsDon't mind if DOOOOOOOOOO
>>33834221Yeah, ngl I don't care enough to debate someone who is deadset on not getting a bitch. Nothing but excuses. Coming up with reasons you can't do shit. I don't even live in Japan so reading about their bullshit not worth my time, lol. Their entire demographics are fucked. It's completely different from the U.S. where women have been convinced that having jobs and being like men is good, and men have been convinced that being a punk pussy pushover who doesn't approach women and fucks his fist thrice per day is good. All I know is there is a huge swatch of regular women who can't secure an alpha because they're average and don't get approached by regular men on their level because they're pussies. I'm cashing in on my above average looks + confidence to approach. It takes minimal effort to get in the top 80% of men. Simply styling your clothes well to fit you, hygiene, regular hair cuts, cologne, and confidence are enough. But hey. You can live in the reality you choose anon. You can have yours. I'll enjoy pussy in mine. Peace.
>>33834235>Yeah, ngl I don't careThen I'm not reading this post, lmaoGod, could you make it more obvious you were mentally razed to the ground by the absolute basics. lol
>>33834221>>33834235>I meant to say top 20% of men.
>>33834236I already called your faggotry a post ago. Peace.
>>33834240You said 'peace' already, dumdum.And your calls are vague and meaningless.
