How does a person who never goes anywhere social and doesn't talk to people online find a significant other? Do you just have to hope you just happen across someone during the course of running weekly errands?
>>33834826If you're a man, you either fix that or go gay.
>>33834899Shut the fuck up Adolf Hitler.
>>33834911I'm just telling it how it is. Women don't like loners. Even if I didn't say that, women would still act the same, so I'm just going to say it.
>>33834899>go gayEven if you did that, how would it be any different than not being able to meet women on account of being a recluse?
>>33834920Gay men aren't really attracted to social status and you could get a relationship with another recluse if you wanted to. You go to Grinder or a gay bar or something and it wouldn't be that difficult.
>>33834899How does one fix this?
>>33834826Have been asking myself this for years, now 30 and still a virgin.I say try to fix it as soon as you can or end up like me.For me, it's practically over.
>>33834945Get a social hobby and go there every week for a few years. I will not tell you which ones to do because you have to figure it out yourself.
>>33834826god, i wish i could get a loner moid to obey me. but moids just want problems
>>33834916Still doesn't mean it can't work. He can still impress a cheerleader type who gets tired hanging around the same type of guy all the time who wants to try something different.
>>33834954genuine question, are ppl like you not able to afford hookers, or what?
>>33834957>social hobbyNo such things these days. Unless you want him to meet hags, single mothers or rich housewives, at yoga classes
>>33834969No, what you're saying is exactly like a man saying "I'm tired of hot skinny women in their early 20s with big tits and ass, I need to try fat ugly women for a change". This is about attractiveness.>>33834972I'm glad you think that, because I don't need more competition.
>>33834970I don't want hookers.Unlike what foids think, men don't only want sex.I want love.
>>33834977No, it's like a guy deciding to try to date an attractive e-girl who does livestreams in her home at 2am as opposed to the typical girl he gets drunk with at party clubs. Flip it around and you got OP.
>>33834972No nigga, go to Alcoholics Anonymous, meet some ex-alcoholic chick. Her liver might be fucked up, but they tend to be chill, and the organic introductions and everyone telling their story make things easier before you talk to her one on one. There's marathons too, if you can run, lots if fit bitches there. There's places where you can learn to play instruments, try those too.Wouldn't recommend gyms though, I have bad experiences from those, bitches tend to be weird and too on guard there.
>>33835006It's not. Because a hot woman with huge tits is the same attractiveness level as a male CEO. Men and women are genetically attracted to different things.Anyway, even if you believe that, you will get cucked by reality until you realize that I was right. You seem quite inexperienced.
>>33834826No, you have to get out of your recluse shell and talk to people. That's how it works.
>>33834826dating appsyou can still find amazing people if youre not boring and are working on improving yourself, speaking from experiencejust dont expect it to be instant or easy. its also easier in big cities where you can play the odds>>33834916wrong
>>33835013A little bit yes, and a little bit no. But yes I do talk to women and have been around them. Being reclusive can be done in moderation anon. It can be attractive too. It's kind of like the same type of joy as wanting to own a pet spider, seeing how it is in its own small environment being intrigued by how it unravels itself. Now again this has to be done in moderation as like you said if you are unhealthy doing nothing with your life, then this is pointless. But yes there are attractive men out there that women want to be in their vampire lair.
>>33835035What if I just went and sat somewhere in public and waited for someone to come to me?
>>33835035NTA but what if they think I am clingy and weird for wanting a conversation when they probably dont?Last think I need is people thinking I'm desperate or bothersome.
online
>>33835103OP says not online
>>33834826Gonna be honest, if you're a recluse you probably wouldn't enjoy being in a relationship. I'm guessing you place a high premium on your privacy and space? Being in a relationship is a violation of both those things.You're in a 24/7 text exchange that you can't escape. You're sharing a bed together, sometimes several nights in a row - EVERY night if you move in together. You have to hang out with her friends. You have to spend money to go out and do things together, because otherwise she'll get bored. You're pausing movies every few minutes because she has to use the bathroom, or make a snack, or talk about the crazy thing that's happening in her groupchat. You'll have to force yourself to have opinions on things you couldn't possibly care about.You get sex, intimacy and companionship out of the arrangement, which are all good things. But for dudes who have been conditioned by their solitude, relationships can often be a hard pill to swallow.
>>33835133I'm aware of that, but what if I can be the one to set the parameters and only do what I feel comfortable with? Maybe I could find a very codependent partner?
>>33835152You can.What anon above you fails to tell you is that you don't have to bow down to everything and let go of your comforts for her. You have the right to boundaries.
>>33835152Codependency is even worse, because all the things I just described are cranked to max settings. Codependents never want you out of their sight.It doesn't seem like you have a very realistic idea of relationships if I'm honest. But this is 4chan, so I guess the shoe fits. I don't think any advice you get here is going to stick.Just flail around until something works. You'll figure it out. It'll probably be a shitshow, and you'll be back here when it goes up in flames. But at least you'll have had some experience by then.
>>33835176>What anon above you fails to tell you is that you don't have to bow down to everything and let go of your comforts for her.Oh my sweet summer child
>>33835192Really? I figured they'd be more flexible and accommodating out of fear of you leaving
>>33835110dang i cant readits impossible OP, you have to be somewhat social to get at least a couple of interactions
>>33835203Nope.Also, let's be real, you're not an emotionless robot who can impose rules and boundaries without regard for another person's feelings. You wouldn't be looking for a relationship if that were the case. When she's hurt or disappointed or angry or upset because of the weird cold shit you say to her, that'll have an effect on you, and you'll react accordingly.All your fantasies of masterfully 4D Chessing your way to manipulating some chick will fall apart the minute you get a taste of that coochie.
>>33835215It's not like that, I'm not le twisted psycho I just value being able to approach things on my own terms and back out if need be.
>>33835220>impose rules and boundaries without regard for another person's feelingsIsn't that what she would be doing if she takes away his comforts, alone time and simple pleasures?You're contradicting yourself here.
>>33835230You can definitely set boundaries and communicate your needs, etc. As far as things being on your terms goes - wouldn't everyone like that lol
>>33835251If his pleasures and comforts are solitude and reclusive behavior, then yes, it will feel like she's taking those things away. Which is why I'm saying most recluses don't actually want relationships.
>>33835282Maybe I don't want a relationship, but I get the feeling I won't know for sure until I actually try to have one, however slow and arduous that process might be. Solitute will always be there as a fallback.
>>33835331thanks for entertaining my post, anon
>>33835331You seem a bit arrogant.
>>33835333For sure. Get some life experience and perspective. I wish I could give you dating advice. In my experience it seems like the harder you try, the more elusive girls become. But plenty of people seem to grind it out on dating apps with a moderate degree of success.Put on a brave face, whatever you do.
>>33835336I guess so. Is that a big deal?
>>33835012Hey anon it's nice to meet you at our AA meeting, tell us your story!>Uuuuuuh I don't drink very much I just came here because I want to score an ex alcoholic chickHello anon, it's so nice you've joined our marathon meetup! Have you ever ran in one?>No but I want to fuck a chick who doesHey anon, welcome to the violin class, how's it going are you new to the instrument or have you played it on your own already?>Well I just always wanted to bang a violinist to be honest, don't care about this shit.Yes I know you lying bastard you'd never respond like that but spiritually you're on this level.
>>33834899gay men aren't monogamous.
>>33835455Ehh come on, it's merely on the level of a scoundrel. It's not that bad.
>>33835455Do a gym version one
>>33834826Women are social creatures anon
>>33834826You preay to God and manifest her. Worked for me.
>>33834920>how would it be any different than not being able to meet womena gay man is still a man, he'll be horny for anything and everything, including average or below sexual partners.women, not so much
>>33834826
I'm 34 and still a virgin. I just don't see a point
>>33835725Yo what muscles are you training today anon?>Gymthot pussygrabbing ones
>refuses to do anything that allows human interaction>asks if there's still a way to get gf/bf which involves human interactionyou're gonna die alone, anon. good luck.
>>33835803KEKThis one might actually work though :D
>>33834826>dating
>>33835780Same. Unless escorts count, did that twice. No regrets.
>>33834899You either don't know anything about lgbt or you're intentionally lying. Their dating norm is polyamory, they don't want to date one single person
>>33834954Same, still a virgin perma horny and alone at 30. White women don’t want white men.
>>33836064You get what you put into it. If you're looking for polyamory then you get that. If you're looking for a serious relationship then you get that. No one who's gay is having trouble finding a monogamous relationship, it's still easier than an incel finding a woman.
>>33836233I knew a gay man, he was using grindr for hookups behind his boyfriends back
>>33836277And I know many straight couples that have done the same. That's just how it goes.
>>33835069This won't do anything. Most I've gotten was pity talk from a guy who seemed worried about me.
>>33836287So how is being gay better
>>33836378You're really not gonna cure your depression or desperation if you go gay. It'll just be a new set of different problems. Only people you'll impress are hipsters who are glad you are in a relationship, but you'll soon find out those hipsters never were your friend.
>>33836378The point was not that it's better, the point was that gay men don't care if you're social or not. Women are going to require you to be social.
>>33836392well gay seems like a fetish to me it’s not romantic to be with a man, I’m hardcoded attracted to females.>>33836406I’m social but don’t get along with everyone. I tried hanging out with a group and they started talking shit about white males and it made me want to die. If I was black I could have my dream wife but no white children.
