Most i’ve done with programming object oriented programming in python. Should I even bother?
we need the "I won't read" autist! to the rescue!
That is the most zoomer looking zoomer I have ever seen
>>33850461if you genuinely enjoy cs then go for itif you dont enjoy it and just want a career, cs is a shit way to go due to the current state of things, youd be better off learning how to be a plumber or electrician or some shit
>>33850461I won't read yet another mediocre CS student complaints and self-doubt thread. Do something that interests you. Working just for money is hell on Earth.
>>33850461These kids are turning out mediocre slop even worse than what Indians at FAGMAN companies are churning out. Their "success" is a facade and a result of current market conditions. If you think that's a cope, go check what's happened to the price of gold the last few years.
>>33850461i always see ppl like this but when i actually dig into their github repos and personal sites i either find nothing or a bunch of useless scripts. no c or c++ for miles. and usually no understanding of the deployment cycle either.
>>33850772>Working just for money is hell on Earth.Isn’t that what most people do?
>>33850461You do realize that this guy be lying about all of this, right? People do that on the internet from time to time.
that haircut is atrocious
>>33850461>make it in CS>at 25I will be honest, it's gonna be hard, very hard. I am 23 and I'm already a Senior Software Engineer with 5 years of experience, I was very lucky to be able to enter the job market. The bar is much higher than a few years ago, and a useless degree is not gonna land you a job, specially if it's not from an ivy league school. My advice, if you truly love CS, go for it, but if you are just after money, you will have to think very deeply if you're willing to put in the amount of work necessary to land a job, because there's probably a lot of ways to make more money with the same amount of effort. I repeat, if you like CS, go for it, yes, hetaerism is a thing in CS, and 25 is considered old, but everyone has a different start.
>>33856002I checked him out and he is legit. That or he is hitting the right notes to keep up appearances which I doubt. Though to be fair, he does seem like he came from stupid rich money to be able to do this.
>>33850956>>33852961>>33856002Proofs he is lying/over-exaggerating?
>>33850772Being poor because you decided to do what you enjoy or what interest you is a great idea.
>>33856094What are the options for a another 25 year old anon who has an interest in tech, but doesn't want end up working a dead end job.
>>33856489>What are the options for a another 25 year old anon who has an interest in tech, but doesn't want end up working a dead end job.It really depends from person to person. Do you already have a job or any previous work experience?What kind of work have you done so far?Are you currently employed or between jobs?Does your current company have an IT or software development department?If yes, could you try to transfer internally or shadow someone from that department?Do you have a degree or any formal education?If yes, what’s your degree in?Are you open to going back to school, doing a bootcamp, or getting a certification?Have you ever studied programming, design, or any tech-related topic before (even casually)?What areas of tech actually interest you? (e.g., software development, cybersecurity, data science, AI, cloud, IT support, game dev, etc.)Do you enjoy logical problem solving, creative design, or hands-on technical work more?Have you ever tried building something yourself, like a website, app, or automation script?Do you have any connections or friends already working in tech who could refer you or mentor you?Are you active in any online communities or local meetups related to tech?Would you be willing to network online (LinkedIn, Discord groups, etc.)?What do you consider a “dead-end job”? (Different people define that differently.)What kind of career path do you imagine yourself enjoying long-term?How much time are you willing to invest in learning before making a career shift?Are you open to freelancing, remote work, or even relocating for better opportunities?This is something that requires tailored advice, I can't say do X thing or Y thing if I don't know your circumstance. If you are willing to answer these questions, I can give you a pathway. Otherwise I would rather not risking and directing you to do something completely stupid with your life.
>>33856524>Do you already have a job or any previous work experience?The only work experience that I have is in retail and I'd rather not do that for the rest of my life.I'm currently working in one that is an office supplies store, and I assume that they have an department, but I'm not sure about the mobility there.>Do you have a degree or any formal education?I did one semester in university in early 2020, but I basically dropped out.I've been thinking about going back to school in 2026 for a degree in computer science or software engineering, but I've heard that those field are currently oversaturated atm, which makes it more difficult for anyone in those fields to get hired.I started with python a few years ago because my friend who is in a computer engineering program introduced me to it, but I only got into the basics of it so I'm not that knowledgeable about it now after not practicing. Don't know if it counts but I used latex to create my c.v after he showed me an example of his c.v which he also used latex to create it.>What areas of tech actually interest you? (e.g., software development, cybersecurity, data science, AI, cloud, IT support, game dev, etc.)Honestly, I'm not too sure. I thought about game development before, but I've heard how that industry treats its game devs. I'd say I enjoy hands on work more, but problem solving is pretty interesting. I guess creative design is the least interesting one of the three, but eventually I'll have to dabble in that if I plan on getting into this industry.I definitely want to try building a script before the end of the year. >Do you have any connections or friends already working in tech who could refer you or mentor you?I'm not in any online or offline communities related to tech because I don't socialize, but I do have a long time and very close friend who is going to graduate with a degree in computer engineering next year.Networking is pretty much mandatory for a lot things these days.
>>33856524>>33856786>What do you consider a “dead-end job”? (Different people define that differently.)A job that pays very little and has no mobility, unfulfilling work, no growth, nothing but long hours with no rewards. You could work 10 years in that position and you'd only see a slight increase in pay. I'm fine with being tired and not catching enough sleep sometimes. That's a given in most careers, but I'd rather not do that in a job that makes me dread my existence.I've thought about what career paths I would enjoy in the long run, but I never managed to come to a conclusion. I always overthink these things because I want to make sure that I won't end up screwing myself in the long run, but by doing that, I end up wasting my time by doing nothing. learning is apart of almost any job, and to be honest I kind of enjoy it. It's scary at first, but satisfying when things work out. So I'm willing to invest quite a bit into learning before making a career shift unless I have to learn a large amount of things in a seemingly impossible time frame.The problem with freelancing is finding work. So I'm more interested in something stable first. Remote work would pretty nice and relocating could be rough, mostly because you have to find a new place to live in and rent is through the roof in some areas. I'd have to consider the cost of living in certain areas and if the job opportunity/opportunities is actually worth relocating for.
>>33850461Are you white? Serious question my answer depends on this a lot
>>33850772nothing interests me
>>33856913And if he isn't white? I'm assuming that you won't provide any advice if he isn't white.
>>33850461You have to remember that kids like these are incredibly rich and have had all the resources and support since they were born. They could've gone into anything and been successful at it. Relax.
>>33857268I was going to say that in reality who you’re competing with for CS jobs (in my experience) are antisocial Indians and Asians judged by Indian hiring managers who hate whites and that if he’s white he should consider pivoting to data analysis or business analytics where you can utilize your programming skills somewhatAt least that’s what worked for me literally spent a year interviewing with rude dismissive Indian hiring managers (in retrospect they would have never hired me anyway even if I was a genius who aced everything). Now I have a comfy data analytics job where I just do presentations and make interactive dashboards using my coding skillsBeing a shut in stuck behind a computer is brown coded and if you’re white and not completely antisocial you should try and take advantage of that fact and try for a role that’s a bit more about relationship building, presentations, etc.
>>33856786that is good you've used latex
>>33850461are you competing directly with him for something? or are you merely demoralizing yourself over the idea of his existence.
>>33850461No self respecting employer would hire an 18 year old with broccoli hair now matter how impressive their portfolio is. Companies are looking for dependable employees that don’t complain and have actual work experience. Look for an entry level spot at a company that uses industry standard business software and get some exp. Tell them you want to learn SQL or dev work. looks great on a resume.
>>33856786>The only work experience that I have is in retail and I'd rather not do that for the rest of my life.>I'm currently working in one that is an office supplies store, and I assume that they have an department, but I'm not sure about the mobility there.This makes things harder, can you let go of this job and still make ends meet? I would suggest any office job of any kind, even if it means earning less. At the very least, if there's mobility inside the company you would be able to transfer.>I've been thinking about going back to school in 2026 for a degree in computer science or software engineering, but I've heard that those field are currently oversaturated atmIt is oversaturated, it doesn't mean there's zero opportunity, if you truly like CS, I say, go for it. However, if you go, make sure to build connections, portfolios, take internships, get a good GPA. Do everything in your reach as to be above average.>I thought about game development beforeIf it's your dream, you should try it. However, it's one of the most underpaid software jobs out there, and game development is not what most people think it is. When you work at game dev, you don't necessarily need to know how to code although it's helpful, there's many people working as designers, and inside design there's several niche stuff, like sculpting, 3d modeling, texturing, materials, rigging, animation, concept art, illustration, lighting, rendering... You will work in a very small part of the game.>I do have a long time and very close friend who is going to graduate with a degree in computer engineering next year.This makes things easier, the easiest way to get a job in IT is being referred.>A job that pays very little and has no mobility, unfulfilling work, no growth, nothing but long hours with no rewardsSoftware is way better than retail, but it's stressful, one 1988 study of 101 male software engineers found 62% reported mental complaints and 31% had diagnosable mental ill‐health
>>33856786What I would do in your place:Study Algorithms, data structure and math for the next 3 months > Enter university > Make connections with people that have different skills > Make some kind of SaaS together with classmates > Apply for internships
>>33856206If he came from a rich family, then clearly he didn’t have to put as much effort into it as the average person would have. In that case, it’s not as impressive as you think.
>>33850461This is likely one in a million instance.I'd be more concerned competing with jeets that cheat and fake their way through everything.Now go and create apps or games to buff up your resume.
>>33856002>>33856228Why can't he post the app in question rather than reference it?If it's open source he should have no problem, or it'll show he's barely a contributor.
>>33859561>Why can't he post the app in question rather than reference it?>If it's open source he should have no problem, or it'll show he's barely a contributor.I'm not the people you marked, but his GitHub is literally open for everyone to see, you would know that if you had accessed his personal website. He literally contributed to several open source projects like: Vercel, Homebrew, JetBrains, Flathub, Ensdomains, pnpm, Flutter, Appolo GraphQL, many others... But it's easier to criticize, isn't it? Have you ever contributed in any relevant way to any relevant open source project? If yes, post your GitHub here, please.
>>33859609I'm just asking questions.
>>33859609Contributing to open source doesn’t actually mean anything unless you were the project lead or something major. It shows that you are doing things instead of just playing video games every day, but it doesn’t demonstrate any real world work experience. Having actual job experience on your resume will get you hired.In addition, this guy looks like he’s full of himself. He presents himself as some bug host shot that deserves a lot of money for just coming up with ideas and not doing any actual work. Our company has been through people like that so we know to screen those people out. Any business that hires people like that deserves what they get.
>>33856228https://github.com/robiot?tab=repositorieseh it's a bunch of bullshiet mayne.if u want to see mine https://github.com/redriflei barely commit anymore except for my current vulkan project on the dev branch: https://github.com/changelight/oceanlight/commits/development/i've never had a dev job of any kind nor a college degree or anything like that.
>>33858285>This makes things harder, can you let go of this job and still make ends meet? I would suggest any office job of any kind, even if it means earning less. At the very least, if there's mobility inside the company you would be able to transfer.I just got this job a little over a month ago, and I don't have much work experience. The job market in Canada absolutely sucks right now so quitting isn't best move. I do live with my mom though, so I guess I'm fortunate in that case.>It is oversaturated, it doesn't mean there's zero opportunity, if you truly like CS, I say, go for it. However, if you go, make sure to build connections, portfolios, take internships, get a good GPA. Do everything in your reach as to be above average.I'll most likely have a non existent social life, but that's the price I pay for pissing away half of 20s by playing videogames. Then again, I likely would've had to do all of this even if I enrolled into one of those programs 5 or 6 years ago. I've heard that it's quite common amongst many tech bros. Even my friend had to present some personal projects of his to do an internship at an air travel company. >This makes things easier, the easiest way to get a job in IT is being referred.It's nepotism, but I'll take it.>Software is way better than retail, but it's stressful, one 1988 study of 101 male software engineers found 62% reported mental complaints and 31% had diagnosable mental ill‐healthI'd rather suffer and make good money than suffer and make damn near nothing. >>33858290I plan preparing for a little while before I enroll into a program. One of the reasons why I want to work on a small project is to have something to show at the very least. Thanks for the advice.
>>33850461You should look at the market
>>33850461You are not competing with people like thisYou are competing for low level IT wagie jobs with cheating indiansCan you beat them? If yes, then purse the career. If not, choose something else.
