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What the fuck do they mean when they say nice guys finish last?
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>>33856053
I don't know, OP. There's lots of ways to interpret that.
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>>33856053
It means nice guys make sure to nut only after the woman has had a few orgasms of her own.
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It means women are repulsed by nice guys because they automatically assume the worst of you since you’re a man. They assume you’re only being nice to get in their pants. Nothing you do as a nice guy can convince them otherwise. It probably goes even deeper, like some evolutionary impulse to avoid nice guys because they can’t protect you, can’t fuck, etc. Nice guys are repulsive to women. And even if you start being a prick, their evolutionary impulse will still tell them to avoid you. The nice guy to incel pipeline is very real.
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It really means desperate men with no backbone (wimps/simps) finish last.

Women will go to the other extreme and pick assholes instead, given the choice.

What you need to be is in the middle: a gentleman with a backbone.
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>>33856243
>desperate men with no backbone
What does that mean exactly?
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>>33856318
>desperate men with no backbone
>What does that mean exactly?

It means men who never say no and try to please a woman's every whim (not need) actually turn women off.

https://youtu.be/QkCMXWHqWhw?si=WFZfsMv9pgBiIbCe&t=59
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>>33856318
Don't be timid. Don't be shy.
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>>33856053
>>33856144
You're close but it's not quite this.

Being nice in itself isn't bad. But it typically comes with unattractive traits like simping, people pleasing, weak constitution, wariness, etc.

>And even if you start being a prick, their evolutionary impulse will still tell them to avoid you.
Nobody likes a prick. But being a "bad boy" isn't the draw in and of itself. But it typically comes with attractive traits like confidence, boldness, assertiveness, masculinity, a real personality and opinions (not just agreeing with whatever she says) and not treating her like a princess fairy just because she has a slit between her legs. Contrary to popular (simp) belief, women don't find it attractive when you worship them for literally no reason.
>They assume you’re only being nice to get in their pants.
Most women have no problem with directly referencing that you're sexually interested. It actually gets you the answer you want much more quickly.
>>33856318
>What is a gentleman with backbone
A man who is respectful but isn't afraid to tell a girl no. Someone who expresses sexual interest, but won't pretend to be something he's not. Someone who isn't afraid to express his true opinion even if it disagrees with her. Someone who doesn't bend over backwards to worship her for no reason other than "she has a pussy.:" And someone not afraid to call her out on her bullshit when they inevitably spew it -- namely someone who doesn't fall for their bullshit and is willing to leave when mistreated.
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>>33856053
women are human beings and want to believe the thing that makes them attractive is the special way the act. they need to believe there's a difficulty in getting the man they want, that he has choices, and that her particular qualities are winning him over. a guy that is always just falling for her completely, always kind and endearing for her from the beginning, and can't be shaken even on days where she's annoying or shitty, finishes last because he doesn't make her feel like a woman. it's like a soggy starving kitten following you home after your feed it, something to pity, and not a rare and valuable opportunity she succeeded at

it's the same reason you always charge $20 for something you sell on Facebook or Craigslist instead of free. free just makes you deal with the worst bullshitters in the world and a nightmare to deal with
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>>33856144
>They assume you’re only being nice to get in their pants.
An, are they wrong?
I've never had a problem with getting laid while being nice. But I'm also not a doormat, and I don't expect anything in return. I just consider it good manenrs to not be a cunt.
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>>33856761
Hmm?
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>>33856761
Are they?
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>>33861412
Probably
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>>33856053
it means the same as getting picked last during gym class or being last in line for promotion
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>>33856053
They don't mean "nice" they mean passive and spineless
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>>33856144
Except I’m not afraid to hit a bitch and I make it clear, I won’t protect her if Jaq’aryin wants to hang out with her.
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>>33863097
>Jaq’aryin
lmao XD
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nice guy here
we/they still finish though
but incels who don't try or men without any personallity, they'll never finish
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being "nice" because you don't have a choice (too weak/shy/afraid of confrontation/afraid of saying no/etc.) is repulsive

being nice (respectful, polite, friendly, generous, altruistic, etc.) while also being able to punch someone in the face when they deserve it is attractive
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>>33863308
How do they know our personality just from glancing at us? I try to make eye contact with every attractive woman I see in passing and they always look at the ground.
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>>33863462
I don't fucking know
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>>33856053
Nice guys finish last because the women finish first. #feminism

Have you ever had a sales person who is just a little over the top nice. Yet you just feel this irk towards them cause you can sense in the back of the head they're being pushy. That it was what nice guys are like, they can't assert themselves. So thus they simp, praise, and elevate a woman beyond them.
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>>33856424
>traits like confidence, boldness, assertiveness, masculinity
I have most of these traits but when youre a sperg it doesn't get respect it just makes people want to lynch you and act machiavellian towards you
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>>33865660
Yup. Someone told me something like this when I was young so now if a girl gives me a vibe she doesn't want to be there, interrupts me, unadds me etc I just instantly flip a switch and never speak to them again, when I worked around women I would avoid eye contact and everything.
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>>33863462
You’re invisible
Not even a beta
Nice guy status is way above your league
It’s not necessarily over for you but you need an overhaul
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>>33856053
>What the fuck do they mean when they say nice guys finish last?
Three things:
1. Men without reasonable standards for other people's behaviour will permit other people to display unco-operative behaviour.
2. Men who desire friends or positive social relationships will display co-operative behaviour.
3. Doing both 1 and 2 at the same time means the man is a dumbass who is getting exploited.
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it means you let your gf finish first, duh bad guy incel, always finishing first before even getting a gf.
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>>33866653
how am I invisible, I’m taller than everyone.



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