Would you leave your girlfriend if you found someone better?

People can appreciate something that looks good without cheating.

More likely from emotional friction in the relationship or moral issues.

>>33856950
No, if I'm with someone I get along with and who loves me that's enough

>>33856960
And so it is with women. Despite what crabs on this site might tell you, emotional connection matters quite a bit with women in relationships - they are not keen on abandoning someone they've intended to share their life with, even if someone "better" comes along. If they're serious about you, they stick with you regardless of how many Chad Thundercocks they come across.

>>33856974
those kind of women are way more rare than their male counterparts though.

>>33856942
As a fellow manlet, if I get a gf I'm just not gonna worry about it and enjoy the ride as long as possible. Don't wanna turn it to a self fulfilling prophecy, y'know?

>>33857012
>>33856974
Anon was being soft with you. This mindset is just plain old weakness - a complete lack of emotional resiliency of any kind. All of life is a potential disappointment. Everything you could possibly achieve could be taken at any moment. The job you get could fire you if they find someone better, your house could burn down, your car could get stolen, your best friend could betray you. Using "Well, I'm not going to try because something might go wrong and I might get hurt" as a reason to not pursue goals in life is just weakness. Its the attitude of a person incapable of overcoming adversity. The alternative to trying is to not try - to sit and rot in place and accomplish nothing because any success you gain could theoretically be taken away. Its a very sad and spineless way to live your life.

>>33856974
>And so it is with women.

More options = less incentive to settle. Basic economics.

>>33856974
>And so it is with women.
what percent of modern divorces are initiated by the woman? that's rhetorical btw, it's over 70% now. women are not the same as men and a large majority of them absolutely do not value things like vows, loyalty, or devotion the way most men do.

>>33857050
Just find a woman who loves short men.

>>33856974
>And so it is with women. Despite what crabs on this site might tell you, emotional connection matters quite a bit with women in relationships - they are not keen on abandoning someone they've intended to share their life with, even if someone "better" comes along. If they're serious about you, they stick with you regardless of how many Chad Thundercocks they come across.
>>33856974
>And so it is with women. Despite what crabs on this site might tell you, emotional connection matters quite a bit with women in relationships - they are not keen on abandoning someone they've intended to share their life with, even if someone "better" comes along. If they're serious about you, they stick with you regardless of how many Chad Thundercocks they come across.
That's not how it works with tournament species. And women file something like 80% of divorces.

>>33857071
>Just find a woman who loves short men.
NTA. I recall reading a study that found only 1 in 750 women preferred shorter men.

>>33857086
Those odds are actually way better than I assumed, and leagues better than the average short guy has convinced himself.
Just embrace the shortness.

>>33857071
I'm too old to shotamax...

if im going to be honest, im a girl and im constantly bothered by what men are attracted to and i find myself constantly feeling threatened by conventionally attractive women because i know ill never be like them. even if i get a bf and they are "appreciating their beauty" the thought of it is fucking unbearable and makes me irrationally angry

>>33857104
>Those odds are actually way better than I assumed, and leagues better than the average short guy has convinced himself.
>Just embrace the shortness.
0.0013% is better than you thought?

>>33856974
I get it and I believe what you're saying. But I also wonder how someone like me would even get in the door with a woman if there are better guys out there.

>>33857110
He won't look at anybody else if you peg him

>>33857110
>if im going to be honest, im a girl and im constantly bothered by what men are attracted to and i find myself constantly feeling threatened by conventionally attractive women because i know ill never be like them. even if i get a bf and they are "appreciating their beauty" the thought of it is fucking unbearable and makes me irrationally angry
Lets just unplug the internet and tv when we start dating.

>>33857062
>what percent of modern divorces are initiated by the woman?
Why are the modern divorces initiated more by women, anon? Your argument is missing a very key casual link and only makes sense if you assume that getting divorced is always a bad thing and that women are always bad for initiating divorce.

>>33857144
im fucking submissive i cant do that :(

Only thing that's annoying is what an insecure beta fagot OP is to spam create these threads.

>>33856942
>Why are the modern divorces initiated more by women, anon?
It's a few different things intersecting at the same time.
1. The fact that it's easy to divorce means the idea of marriage isn't taken as seriously as it would be if it were like in the 50s and basically impossible to do.
2. Birth Control. A huge amount of women are on BC, which tricks the body into thinking it's pregnant. So aside from ruining fertility, the pregnant mind looks for completely different traits in men than the non-impregnated body. Resulting in some women literally not even being attracted to the man after marriage and getting off BC.
3. More women are fucking around and taking a lot more dick than they should if they want a long-term marriage. Studies show that after 4 sexual partners, the likelihood of divorce increases exponentially.
4. Also because of #3 women fuck dudes who are 10s even though the 10s would never truly commit to them. So they think they're "settling" when they're really marrying a dude on their level.
5. Men are largely more feminine and pusillanimous than previous generations. They're more prone to worship, simp and believe the whole "happy wife happy life" which most women *say* they want, because it's socially acceptable, but absolutely turns them the fuck off. There's an epidemic of marriages with dead bedrooms or sex only on birthdays or anniversaries. When a woman is legitimately attracted, they *look* for reasons to have sex. Otherwise it's a chore. Hence husbands regularly getting denied "because I'm sick" or "tired".
6. Women literally have a financial incentive to divorce. And there are no protections against paternity fraud. Hell, some states won't even allow the "father" to get DNA tests without the mother's permission.
TL;DR feminism and suffrage fucked women and society over.

>>33856950
False dichotomy. It takes no effort for a woman in a relationship to get a guy who is taller, in better shape, richer, etc. all she has to do is spread her legs
Meanwhile, 99% of guys cannot just whip their dicks out when they encounter younger, prettier, lower body count upgrades and expect to be successful.
Women and men are different, get over it.

>>33857340
>It takes no effort for a woman in a relationship to get a guy who is taller, in better shape, richer, etc. all she has to do is spread her legs
Brother, redpill content has turned your brain to radioactive mush.

>>33857165
because women are infamously hypergamous and the modern feminized culture in the west allows for them to dumpster men with no questions asked. they don't just divorce a guy with nothing else lined up. they divorce because they found a new, better guy who gives her the old honeymoon feelings of infatuation and vagina tingles she hasn't felt in years with her husband. but if you were implying it's because of infidelity, not only are women less likely to divorce than men due to a partner's infidelity, but modern women now cheat more often in general.

next I suppose you'll start arguing that abortion is a good thing because of instances of rape or incest, despite over 95% of abortions being completely elective and undertaken by sluts rather than "victims"

>>33856950
No?

>>33857353
I agree with most of what you said except:
> they don't just divorce a guy with nothing else lined up.
There are a ton of women who divorce thinking the single life is better but totally regret it when they can't get shit for male suitors because they're not hot anymore. I'd argue most women *don't* have shit lined up aside from half their ex-husband's shit and his house.

>>33857353
>despite over 95% of abortions being completely elective
It's actually 98.5% iirc
even planned parenthood admitted that

>>33857413
good. i don't want a gun in my face, every unborn mutt child not raised by a stupid slut mother with no family structure is a win for civilization

>>33857511
>good. i don't want a gun in my face, every unborn mutt child not raised by a stupid slut mother with no family structure is a win for civilization
Imagine thinking the status quo isn't *exactly* how elites want things to be, lol. Useful idiot.

>>33857511
Except it happens to white babies as well. And we're not even at replacement rates.

>>33857542
This.

>>33857340
you should spend 90% less time on the internet, you are fucking cooked

>>33857340
>It takes no effort for a woman in a relationship to get a guy who is taller, in better shape, richer, etc. all she has to do is spread her legs
Brother. Getting fucked is very different from getting commitment. And those types of men don't take bs from women. They actually *do* have to have skills to get those men like being kind, accommodating, feminine, cook, clean, etc.

Yeah, a woman can get fucked by a rich, buff tall dude. But most women know fuck all how to keep him or get him to commit which is what they actually want.
>Situationship
That's basically the female "friend zone". For men, it's orbiting around a chick and putting in energy and getting nothing in return but hoping for a relationship eventually. For women it's getting fucked, but not getting the relationship they want in return and them sticking around hoping it will eventually change.

>>33856942
protip: women have no standards, they have no sense of right or wrong

>>33857842
>For women it's getting fucked, but not getting the relationship they want in return and them sticking around hoping it will eventually change.

True. Once a woman actually wants you, then she will mark her territory. She will leave her toothbrush and hang her pants near your shower and put her shampoo there. She will make big kiss-marks on your neck.

And the point of that is so that other girls that come to visit you should notice that you are busy already.

When you say that you want to leave her, she bust into tears, talk about suicide and try to guilt you into staying with her. If you still decide to leave, she will become a monster and try to extract every last dollar she can from you. That might mean forcing you to sell that home, destroying your dreams, saying she was raped, whatever.

>>33857913
>When you say that you want to leave her, she bust into tears, talk about suicide and try to guilt you into staying with her. If you still decide to leave, she will become a monster and try to extract every last dollar she can from you. That might mean forcing you to sell that home, destroying your dreams, saying she was raped, whatever.
This only happens if you don't know how to handle your shit and not pick crazies. Having standards helps a lot with this. Because be real: there are tons of people in fwb situations that *don't* do off the deep end with rape allegations and other bullshit.

>>33857915
Sure, but tell me about a marriage that ended happily. They never do.

I guess wen you keep them on the hook, but never commit to anything you can dance that dance and it can work if you are desirable enough.

>>33857919
>Marriages NEVER end well
>Thousands of marriages exist proving otherwise
You're either a dumb AI bot or you've watched way too much redpill content and use it as an excuse to hate women. You're like the "astrology bitch" of masculinity, lol. Yeah it can apply, but you take to heart so extremely you kinda just fail at everything.

>>33857923
I think you just did not understand that.
Of course marriages can work and be happy and so on.

But they never END well. That is when they end, it's not fun.

My parents never ended their marriage, they just stayed in a zombie marriage despite not even living togheter anymore. That can also happen.

How many people are actually happily married?

The statistics in the US:
40% of first marriages end in divorce.
60% of second marriages end in divorce.
70% of third marriages end in divorce.

So, you have about 60% chance of that marriage working given that you marry someone who has never been married before, and you have not been married before.

But like i said, a marriage lasting is not equal to it being a happy union.

My parents are happily married. I have an amazing family and I'm very thankful

>>33856974
women aren't human. they don't feel love, they only want the best they can get and don't give a fuck about hurting men in the process

>>33856974
Bullshit, women initiate 96% of all divorces specifically for alimony and taking as much of the man's property as possible, all to give themselves the freedom to fuck Chad and Tyrone. And the 4% that don't divorce only stay because they need a useful idiot to raise their affair partners baby while constantly turning them down for sex because "they're not in the mood". Stop spreading this lie that women are capable of caring for men.

>>33857343
>>33857824
Simps mad, no rebuttal, resorting to ad hominem
>>33857842
Even if it only works out that the girl gets the LtR she wants with her upgrade, say 10% of the time, that’s still better than the batting average for men in the reverse situation which is functionally zero

>>33856950
I truly believe there is nobody better. Not in the sense that she's "the best I could do", but in the sense that she's perfect for me. Her offcolour jokes, her puppydog eyes, her clumsy nature, her irresistible curves; other girls may do it too, but nobody does it all the way she does and that's the only way I want it.

>>33856942
Realize that are women just like you. You're a mid man and deserve a mid woman who will never be accepted by Chad.

>>33857923
NTA but every long running marriage I've seen had one person who was willing to put up with being a doormat for the other

>>33857110
Just fuck him/let him fuck you whenever he wants. He'll stay then.

>when I see what women are attracted to
What are they attracted to? Where have you seen this?

>>33858484
>that’s still better than the batting average for men in the reverse situation which is functionally zero
Yeah, but that's because most men have absolutely zero standards for women past
>Bobs and vagne
They'll accept clear signs of disrespect, gaslighting, "Happy wife happy life" bullshit, the common tropes of dumb husband smart wife, asking the woman for permission to spend HIS own money while she doesn't have to justify anything, constant rejection for sex, etc. So yeah; having zero standards nets you bullshit situations, lol.

Imagine what would happen if every dude decided not to accept BS from women all at once? Bitches would fall in line real quick and even those odds.

>>33856942
>I can't help but feel that even if I get a gf she will just leave me when she finds someone better.
This is why you are unattractive.

>>33858856
I don't know whats weirder, you thinking your anectodal experiences mean anything or thinking you know about the inner workings of someone's marriage behind closed doors.

>>33860772
>Anecdotal
What is it with people and these buzzwords, why yes, I do believe things I've seen with my own eyes more than what I've heard strangers on the internet tell me

>>33856960
if you've never been in that situation you can't know in advance
most people say they wouldn't cheat, but almost everyone does if they get a chance

>>33860772
idk i've never seen a non-abusive marriage either

>>33859060
You just look at the men women are actually with. It's not rocket science.

>>33856942
my wife is attracted to Jason Mamoa - he's a tall, muscly, tan guy with long hair - she's even told me I look like him (I share exactly 1 trait with him, male)
you don't get bothered by what women are attracted to because women are stupid. would you be bothered by any other variety of retard?
>child is loud! grr
>spazz in a wheelchair is taking up all the pavement! grr
>fattie is stuffing their face again! grr
>autist likes trains! grr
>down syndromes like michael jackson! grr
once you understand this you will no longer be bothered by women - if you are still bothered by their stupidity, then you are stupid