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Having a debate and need genuine answers LOL

Preferably looking for answers from people near our age (19-20)
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Till marriage
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>>33865486
ngl until she asked or initiated it
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the night we met, idc
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>>33865486
Marriage honestly but the chances of a girl like that are one in a million
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>>33865757
>until she asked or initiated it
Isn't it a mans role to take initiative?
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>>33865486
a month or two
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>>33866339
If she takes it the wrong way it becomes rape. So no, most men don't initiate it unless they're 1000% sure she will agree (and not regret it afterwards, or it will also be rape)
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>>33865545
Fpbp.
> looking for answers from people near our age (19-20)
I already thought this by the time I graduated high school. My values haven't changed.
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>>33865486
At least until the door closes behind us. I'm not into public sex
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The general rule is "no sex until the third date".
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>>33865486
im 20 ... will turn 21 in feb ... mostly till marriage
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>>33865486
I've been questioning the same thing, like if I want a serious relationship is it better to hold the sex or go for it right off the rip 1st/2nd date.

I always figured 2nd date sex is better than 1st date sex because after that 1st date she begins to fantasize a little before seeing me again. Idk, I have had a lot of sex but not a whole lot of relationships so im probably not a good dataset to refer to.
>>33865757
This seems like the smartest answer, but doing this means you lose any agency which sucks but it sure does beat a rape accusation or feeling something terrible from a premature move / early rejection.
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one day after she asked for it, so I will know to take viagra before next meeting
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there is no waiting, you just fuck her when the time is right and the fireworks do their thing.
The moment a girl gives you a stop sign it either means you're coming on too hard or she isn't feeling it (both meaning you aren't attractive enough), by which point you should dip and find an uglier hoe and work on yourself
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>>33866431
???? This generation really is fucked lmfao

I'm only 26, so not that old, and I never had problems when it was I that "initiated". If a girl declines and says she's not interested/ready yet... Just drop it and move on?

Are men under the age of 20 really this preoccupied with getting called rapist? No wonder no one's fucking anymore.

Man wtf happened in the last 5-6 years...
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>>33868339
Old ahhh geezer haha peener don't work L bozo
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>>33865486
Id wait a year or more if necessary

My first gf, in high school, we didnt have sex until we'd been dating for 3 months

Its not that big a deal

But that also means casual sex is not allowed
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>>33865486
if she doesn't have sex with you by the second date she's not serious about wanting to fuck you
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>>33865486
I don't think there is a exact answer, you just know when it's the right time
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>>33865486
I'm 40. I would wait maybe a week.
If a woman likes you, she will want to fuck you.
I don't care what her religious background or personal beliefs are. It isn't the 1800s.
And if she can wait months to have sex, she is going to be stingy with sex after you start having it.
Sex with always be a weapon or bargaining chip.



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