I'm dating but why does losing my girl best friend give me heartache?

>>33897028
Probably because you might have unresolved feelings for her.

Sex and war are two variations of the same act; it's why both traumatize children when exposed. They require the same mindset.

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My first first date tomorrow

How do you initialize hand holding on a date? Just say to the girl "can I hold your hand?" or something?

>>33897353
What, are you gonna ask her if you can use the restroom too? Just grab it.

>taking advice from other perma virgins

>>33897403
I'm not a perma virgin I had sex with a chinese girl this summer

>>33897353
offer her your hand, just grabbing her hand is strange. offering gives her the choice, still makes you the active one, and avoids the awkwardness of asking

Just matched with a girl with nothing on her profile but says interested in "short term fun". How do I go in from there? I don't want something too cheesy. Her photos are just selfies with nothing in the background

>>33897568
weird foreign girls don't count

When can I talk about exclusivity with a girl? After how many dates?

Found out a girl in class I tried talking to was only 17 years old. I can understand why she doesn't talk to others.

>>33897829
Thats something she brings up with you if you're worth half a shit. Bringing it up yourself is asking for cuckoldry
>b-baby pwease dont weave me ;_;

>>33897850
This is the faggiest advice ever. You want exclusivity just tell her upfront like a man “hey, do you wanna be bf/gf/exclusive/whatever?”, you have a mouth, use it. Half the problem you losers have in dating is obeying these dumb rules to not look “less masculine” instead of just doing whatever the fuck you want.

>but what if she gets the ick and dumps me

If she’s retarded enough to drop you because you asked her if she wanted to be exclusive then who cares? Can’t fix stupid. Next her and find a hotter chick. But I can guarantee you that most normal girls won’t do that shit.

>>33897829
Exclusivity is a given from the first date.

>>33897885
Using assertive language and freakin' epic reddit-approved Mark Manson style cuss words doesn't strengthen your point.
>Look, if you wanna cum really fuckin hard, go ask Jerome if he'll fuck your wife. Be a real fuckin man and use your big boy words, capeesh?

>>33897895
Not in the year 2025 its not

>>33897903
It sure as hell is. And if they’re not of the same mind, you walk.

>>33897922
You are smoking fucking filtered crack lmao
Oh well, more dudes acting fucking retarded and scaring the hoes away means more easy pussy for me

>>33897896
And resorting to every burger's favorite go-to insult of cuckery because other men's dicks live rent free in your head doesn't strengthen yours.

Get some actual experience with dating women first before posting kiddo.

i havent done it yet
but i suspect going around and being with a bunch of women romantically/sexually
is a healthy/good thing for your development as a man/human being
it's gotta be better than gooning in your phone or computer!

last week i randomly met a girl i havent seen in a long while who was dating one of my friends 10 years ago, thing is i always had a thing for her, we chatted up a bit and today i decided to message her on ig, she took a while to respond and when she did she apologized cause she took her time and that her grandmother was in the hospital yesterday, thing is i dont know how to approach this situation, was the grandmother thing an excuse, a hint or what should i do moving forward

>>33897337
Dinner date? And what's your age?

>>33897650
Just shoot your shot. There are millions of them. Lose the idea that there's ONE particular chick for you. Learn what works and doesn't. Keep going. If you really want to learn, cold approach IRL. That'll put hair on your chest real quick.

>>33898230
You need to start cold approaching. Stay off apps. Learn how to do it IRL. Get real skills.

>>33898646
Be direct, ask her out. You'll get the answer you want faster. If she's into you, it doesn't matter if the grandma excuse was real. If she's not into you, it doesn't matter if the grandma excuse was real. It makes literally no difference.

>>33897829
You don't. You always let her bring that up, always.

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Ask women out. It's that simple.

>>33897353
>>33897384
>>33897623
You'll know
In my experience, you start walking close together, then you start kind of brushing arms and hands casually, then yeah that's you're signal to take her hand in yours.
INTERLACED FINGERS. Don't be a fucking gorilla and just grab it, put some effort and intimacy into it. If she pulls away there was a 90% chance you were gonna strike out anyway.
I've dated women in their 40s and they still do this grade school bullshit. Just let your body communicate, and if like me you're autistic add a few pre-date shots of liquor into the mix

>>33898873
>Just experience 100 rejections of varying brutality to get that one yes. It's that simple.
Daily reminder most dating advice is given by Indians who are low-brained and shamelessly horny

Women won't ask you out but they will make it obvious. The woman who makes it obvious will be sucking your cock on the second date, the woman you "just asked out" will put you through a month of bullshit before letting you tongue kiss.

repeating my post here just because

a friend ive been somewhat close to the last couple of years is going trough a divorce, how can i improve my chances of bedding her once she inevitably starts riding the cock carousel? im decently looking and been working out for years so im very fit, but we hang out and talk over text messages a lot and shes always calling me friend, and shes very hot and already told me a lot of guys are asking her out, i think she sees me as a brother, also were both the same height so that kinda sucks for me i guess

>>33898892
>Just experience 100 rejections of varying brutality to get that one yes. It's that simple.
Uhh, most rejections are just
>no thanks
>Sorry, I have a boyfriend
You're massively overestimating how important you are to have a normal girl waste energy "brutally" rejecting some man she doesn't know. The only ones who *might* be brutal are the obviously vapid whores you shouldn't even be wasting time talking to anyway. But it's alright, you can keep fucking your fist in your mom's basement, because clearly *that's* the right option.

Meanwhile I literally started cold approaching last week and already have gotten numbers.

>>33898970
You need to stop. You've played the "I'll be her friend and hope it grows" game. You talk to her too much. You basically act just like her girlfriends. Not in that you're feminine. Just in that you do the shit with her that she could do with her girlfriends. That's why she sees you as a brother. Height doesn't matter. That's fake news. If she likes you, height doesn't matter. If she doesn't like you, being over 6ft won't change anything. I've literally seen videos where one second the chick says "you need to be over 6 ft" and the next second, she's choosing the shorter of two dudes, who obviously isn't even 6 ft. You need to get out, start cold approaching women, and leave this divorcee alone. You're not willing to do anything that would end the friendship and are therefore not willing to do what it would take to bed her. Drop this idea.

>>33898970
does she see you as a herbivore or not?
in other words: have you had a steady stream of girlfriends while your were friends with her?

>>33899078
thanks, i guess i just needed to hear it from someone else, you are definitely right

>>33899057
OK SAAAAAR GOOD LUCK TO YOU FOR GET BYOO-TEE-FA-OOL WHITE WOMHAN!

>>33897838
Like college class? What is the actual age gap here?

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Friendly reminder to ask her out as soon as possible.

>>33898886
The time and place thing only works if you're 6'+ with a chad face btw. Even if she's into you women only like treatment like that from a specific kind of man. I say this as someone who does get dates and sex this approach just does not work if you don't have a very particular look/vibe.

>>33898795
Nah more like late lunch. We're both 20

>>33898806
thanks for advice i dont care about rejection but in this particular case id be pretty hurt and there are already a lot of redflags like she took 12 hours to respond and then this grandma thing really lost atm

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I just turned 29 and I've just started to get my shit together. It'll probably take me 2 years to really have my shit together. Some things I have going for me are,

>fully paid off house bc both my parents passed away
>decent car and some savings
>I just finished my degree but no job yet
>I started going to the gym this year

By the time I get a good body, a good job, and deal with the trauma from my parents passing (I'm still depressed as hell and have shit mental health bc of this) I assume I'll be 32. I worry I'll be too old to get a decent young girl (22 - 27) to have a family with. Am I fried for thinking this? Any advice to improve my chances?

>>33899479
>Already a lot of redflags
Like what bro?
>I don't care about rejection but I care about rejection from her
You're beginning to sound like an AI bot.

>>33899486
I knew a girl who was madly in love with a depressed alcoholic guy who was in and out of being homeless

>>33899486
I can't comment on the parents situation but the rest literally doesn't stop you from getting girls right now. Just dont traumadump on the 2nd date.

>>33897896
Ngl you just sound pathetic

>>33899569
What's really holding me back is that I don't have a job right now and my mental health is shit. Idk if I could get a decent girl before fixing these things. But maybe it's the lack of confidence bc of these things.

>>33899486
>32 is too old
Bro. Men don't have a biological clock like women do. And honestly, we don't reach our prime until our 40s. You're literally just getting started. The only thing that will stop you from getting young women is yourself (not thinking you can).

>just turned 27
>only 3 girlfriends before. 2 were abusive relationships. One was a great relationship but we were both young, she was super religious, and basically we just wanted different things out of life
Is it over for me? Im an awkward introvert. I never liked going to bars or clubs or whatever. Am i just completely unable to learn the skills needed to actually get women? Ive been working on myself, going outside more, started exercising(was never fat but i was out of shape), but my lack of social skills keeps lingering in the back of my head making me think all of this is pointless. I know this sounds like demoralization but i am hopeful. Have any of you here had a glowup this late in your dating life? What did you start doing? How did you learn to flirt? I dont believe if youre on 4chan you were always a chad, so what did you do?(And yes 27 is old people i know have been hooking up and dating since 13, im fucking 14 years behind them. No whatever you say wont change reality)

>>33899637
>is it over for me?
No. Not reading all that. The answer is just no.

>>33899645
>is
Not reading the rest of that sorry

>>33899135
Yeah, a calculus class. A group I was studying with are in their early twenties, I'm in my 30s.

>>33896995
There's a new girl at work
she's very very cute, in a kind of awkward clearly autistic way
we are the only 2 below 30 (21f 29m) so she quickly warmed up to me and we spend a lot of the shift if there's no clients chatting away

she seems to have quite a few male best friends, altho she says she's not interested in them; she's also a fervent feminist, and has said that her therapist thinks she's probably mostly lesbian, especially romantically, but she's not sure, so I'm 99% sure she just sees me as friendly (we've worked side by side for 3 afternoons, will see her next weekend as she studies the other days, didn't ask for any contact info)

all of these can def be considered very reddish red flags, but I'm so starved for companionship or anything that I'm obviously starting to catch feelings already, think about her way too much

should I just play it passively and see if she makes any move? should I just cut contact and push her away at work so I don't waste my time and emotions getting my hopes up?
I'm very conflicted

>>33899827
What's there to be conflicted about? Make a move or find someone who doesn't think she's gay.

>>33899827
All of those are awful red flags
>should I just play it passively and see if she makes any move?
If passive goes into any of your gameplans then its a no. Just move on, treat her as a friend. If youre not looking for friends then shes just a coworker to talk to and nothing else. Best you shpukd hope for that she invites you to hang out as a group and you meet another girl there, but being realistic the age gap probably means that wont happen.

>>33899848
Yeah... the more I re-read it the more retarded I sound
I guess I just find her "energy" really attractive, and when I think about it in my head I kind of gloss over the red flags
I only met her 3 times; I need to fucking download a dating app or something, I can't feel like this just because I get the smallest drop of friendliness from a cute girl fuck

>>33899851
Her group from her description sounds like it's mostly guys (a high % of trans apparently) and they drink a lot while I don't drink any alcohol, so I wouldn't accept an invite anyway
I'll consciously try and do my best to treat her as just a friendly co-worker to pass away the boredom
I hope I can

>>33899882
Im glad you realized youre worth more than going after a literal praying mantis.

>>33898852
Really? Why?

Anons I need your guidance:
I met a cute Belarusian girl last week while I was out drinking with friends. She seemed really nice and we exchanged contacts.
But when I texted her she seemed really cold with short replies and didn‘t write much. I assumed she wasn‘t interested anymore after the alcohol wore off, so I asked her out just to be sure.
To my surprise she actually said yes.

So now my questions:
1. Is her being cold over text a cultural thing and just I misread it as a lack of interest?
2. I have been told before that (Bela-)Russian women expect flowers on a first date. Should I bring any, will she be disappointed if I don’t or might she think it’s weird/trying too hard since we are not in Eastern Europe?

Both early 20s, if it matters.

If any Russians or those who have dated any could enlighten me that would be very helpful. Any general advice is also greatly appreciated

>>33899389
How do you know it's a date?

>>33900134
There is no way to know the answers about "coldness". For all you know, that's just how she texts and you're reading into it too much. Drop that line of thinking completely and focus on what's real: you asked her out and she said yes. My question is: how did you ask her out?
> Should I bring any, will she be disappointed if I don’t or might she think it’s weird/trying too hard since we are not in Eastern Europe?
Do not bring flowers to the first date. You are not in Belarus. We don't even know if you've asked properly to indicate that it's even a date. If she likes you, it won't matter that you didn't bring flowers. If she doesn't like you, bringing flowers won't change anything.

>Any other advice
Be a man. Don't be a people-pleaser. Express your opinion even if it differs from hers. Don't be afraid to tell her no no. Don't do the "lets be friends and let it grow into a relationship" thing because treating her like a friend is how you become....friends. So many dudes do that and wonder why they're in the friendzone.
>What? You mean doing the same shit she does with her girlfriends for a whole year doesn't express my undying love for her??!!!??! How could she not see that love was right under her nose???
Because that "love" never expressed sexual interest one singular time.

Kind of new to this, looking for some advice.

I saw a girl on Hinge, she had in her profile prompts that her ideal Sunday is "music in the background, coffee on the table, a book in hand, and my phone in the other room." I liked that, and said
>"I hope you're into the outdoors too."
In reply, she said
>"I love the outdoors, just depends on who I'm with."

Out of the 4 types of texts (silence/shit test/logical/positive) this reads like a shit test to me. She's basically challenging my frame where I'm the chooser ("It's cool if you like books, but I want people who like the outdoors too") by bringing in one where she's being selective herself ("Are you 'right' enough to make me like them?").
The weird thing here though is that it's so indirect and impersonal of a shit test that I can't think of how to use my typical strategies to pass it.
She's not really criticizing anything specifically about me, so I can't agree and exaggerate. Meanwhile, I can't really think of a misinterpretation of this one that doesn't also fall into the frame of her being the selective one. The best I can think of is
>Yeah, that's important. I need to know my hiking partner's a person rather than three hungry raccoons in a trenchcoat.
This kind of misinterprets it into her being concerned over wildlife rather than company, while also exaggerating the concern, but I feel like it still accepts her frame of selectivity being important.

Anyone have any advice, ways to improve that response? What do you do on an impersonal shit test like this?

>>33900365
She'd have to be retarded not to know honestly. I basically cold approached her and talked for like 10 minutes and I asked for her number and asked to hang out and she said "that'd be great"

>>33901157
Ok, I had to ask. Way too many dudes aren't direct and think it's a date while the girl received no indication of that fact. If you're cold approaching, I assume you know the whole "don't treat her like a friend" deal, right? That's how you get in the friendzone. Starting as friends and growing into a relationship is a fairy tale. Can it happen? Sure. But is it a good strategy? No. The dude that straight up asks her out on dates has a better chance. Do you even need pointers?

>>33901176
I mean I'm gonna try to be a bit physical when meeting her, but I'm like 90% sure she knows it's a date and not just hanging out as friends. If it goes well I'll probably go for a kiss at the end

>>33901186
>Probably go for a kiss at the end
I assume you plan on going on a walk after the eating portion, right? One piece of advice I'd give regarding your future dates with her is: take her to do shit you already wanted to do. Not things you think will impress her. For example, I like go karts, so guess where I'll take her? I also like photography, so I'll give her one of my cameras and we'll go out competing to see who can get a better shot. It's about showing who you are. Not trying to impress. Doing that always ends in failure.
>Getting physical with her
Might be a good idea to ask for a hug at the beginning or something as well. Do you know how to flirt?

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>>33901097
Holy FUCK ive never seen a more embarrassing example of overthinking.
Just brush past the topic of outdoors altogether and ask her out

don't make these mistakes anons
>one date venue only
>no kiss at the end
>she texted she had a good time and i tried to set the next date there
>she texted me "hey how are you?" 2 days later
>me "hey good and you?"
>didn't reply and didn't even see the message
know i'm ghosted and it's over

>>33901300
Its ok anon a lot of people make that mistake just learn from it and keep trying

>>33898873
>15-20 matches a day
>rarely say hi
Are dating apps full of bots too now?

>>33901382
Why would a bot match and then not speak at all lmao, how are they going to scam you then.
Most likely that woman has absolutely nothing to talk about on her profile so there is no conversation starter.

>>33897829
Exclusivity is a joke. If you need exclusivity, then you're insecure and probably for good reason, because if you were her #1 choice among all her other choices, then you'd never have to think about exclusivity. Same goes for you: if you're a worthwhile guy, you should be talking to and dating multiple women. That's just how dating works, especially in the age of social media and dating apps. If you want exclusivity, propose to her. Otherwise, don't bring it up.
>>33897895
Not at all. Exploring other options is just the reality of dating. Only men with no other options care about exclusivity in dating.

>>33897885
This is so foolish. No matter how upfront someone is about it, asking to be gf/bf is an insecure move.

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>>33897337
Well we went out. I went alright, I guess. We ate and talked for like an hour and a half. We did hug a couple times but no kiss. I think she likes me though, but I could be wrong. She was laughing at my jokes and stuff though. Idk how I feel about her honesty, she's really nice and stuff but I didn't really feel that much talking to her. She's also taller than I remember her being when I met her (she's about 5'9" and I'm 5'10"). Maybe this is evil but if she still wants to hang out again maybe I'll try to work my way up to having sex with her one or more times and then maybe break it off, idk.

Is there something like MMA where I can meet the same women every day at the same time? I do it now but there are only 3 women. I don't want to do no gay salsa dancing or cooking classes.

>approach and start chatting to girl while waiting at the train station for my commute
>up close start having second thoughts
>she's pleasant enough but her face is kinda busted and she had piercings which I don't like
>and her body is flat as a stick and doesn't have anything for me to be wowed by
>conversation is really easy and she's eating up whatever dumb shit I say while I don't care
>not excited about the idea of dating her or even just having sex with her
>just talking and then go our separate ways once I get to my destination

On one hand I don't feel like I missed out on anything but on the other I feel like I should be taking any opportunity I get as an incel to gain experience and that I can't really afford to be picky. I don't have super high standards for girls but at a minimum I think I should at least be somewhat enthusiastic about fucking a girl and not have it be the equivalent of getting reps in at the gym so I can graduate to dating and fucking girls that actually give me a boner. Is this the right mindset?

>>33901682
Damn similar dilemma to you (I made the post two above yours)

should i get over romantic obsession nonsense? i get a lot of female attention, im decently attractive. and reportedly funny too. but i dont act on it because of me only wanting a lifelong partner. isnt that stupid?

please further convince me. im not religious or anything.

>>33901787
It's stupid as fuck because you need practice. What are you going to say when you meet "the one?" How will you even have the confidence to approach? Attraction is a skill that's built just like a muscle. This is how short, fat, or "ugly" men still have women to impregnate. It's mostly about conquering your own mind and doing something that's really simple and doesn't kill you: approach women.

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>>33901571
>>33901682
>>33901693
I fucked girls I was not super into and I think it's a mixed bag. If you don't have much experience it definitely helps with confidence and not feeling like girls have a leg up on you when you talk to them. However you do feel a bit icky after and cringe at yourself, especially if you spent a lot of effort chasing. So I think you shouldn't stop yourself from engaging in these girls and putting in a bit of effort, but only try up to a certain threshold (your own self worth mostly). Also be careful as this is your biggest chance of ending up dealing with crazy girl bullshit.

Fucking hell, so sick of emotionally unavailable girls. Like get over it.
Also if you want to keep it casual, then we can just fuck and you can fuck off.

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>matched with russian girl on tinder
>can also speak russian fluently but a bit out of practice since no one to talk to after I moved
>turns out shes not actually in my area at it said on tinder "but planning on visiting on x date to see her friends"
>been talking to her for a month and a bit, decent conversation but a bit boring sometimes
>she's more into it than me, but it's really good practice for my russian, haven't spoken this well and had this big of a vocabulary in years
>she didn't come to my city when she originally said she would, had to change plans for an actual reason and says she still wants to come soon
>don't have any actual expectation to see her, don't mind having someone to talk to and improve my russian
>mostly just talking about life and what we are up to, not really doing any emotional labour for her like some girls want you to
>don't really have feelings for her, but would definitely fuck her if the opportunity presented itself
>definitely not down to spend any money to see her, nor is she asking me to
>pretty unlikely she is seeing other guys, she's a bit antisocial and doesn't go out
>still feel like I'm getting cucked somehow
Idk what do you guys think?

>>33902103
Normally long games like this are scams but if you truthfully only see her as a means to practice Russian then who cares.
I guess theres the off chance that she actually does have feelings for you but doesnt know how to communicate them and youre stringing her along which would be rude though

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>fuckbuddy wants to try lesbian shit
>convince her to have a threesome
>seems enthusiastic about the idea at first then changes her mind
>says she'd get jealous watching me have sex with someone else
bruh. we're not even dating.
the other day I asked her if she'd change her mind if I promised to focus on her and she said it would help. I'm going to keep pushing it lightly. I WILL make this threesome happen bros. I don't think I'll get another chance like this anytime soon.

>captcha: vag doctor

My last attempt at a long-distance relationship ended up with my romantic interest attempting suicide; how's dating going for the rest of y'all?

Before I invest in this thread and its op, tell me if any of its visitors actually concluded anything from these informations or if you are all coping together and never had any pussy

>>33902382
From what I've observed in my day-to-day a lot of people are in relationships, but they don't seem to actually love each other; women still fucking suck, and Zoomer boys/men are the whiniest, petulant, fucking useless generation in the history of humanity

>>33902400
Well, it's a start. Tell me how to actually meet women, half the links in the op are broken and the other half assumes I already have a pool to talk with

>>33902380
Lesson of the day: Don't date crazy.

>>33902404
If you don't already have a network: cold approaching. It's what men did before social media. There are a lot of women complaining about not being approached these days. No, i'm not talking about the vapid whores or thirst traps you shouldn't be talking to anyway. But regular, normal girls. They really don't get approached often. I approached a girl on Saturday and when she realized what I was doing, she instantly smiled and asked my name. Did I fumble after getting her number? Yeah, lol. But I got a number. I'm defeating approach anxiety. I'm exercising my skill in speaking to women. And I'm coming up with cool shit to say for my next approaches. If you focus on "making the approach and doing it anyway" as the goal as opposed to "I have to get a lot of numbers" then it becomes really easy. You naturally get better if you focus on improving and learning. And the numbers naturally come by default. If you focus on the numbers themselves, you'll beat yourself up every time you get a no. And you WILL be told no. Even "chad" doesn't make every shot he takes. It's just the nature of the game.

>>33902404
Similar interests; the last chick I was/still sort of talking to writes poetry, so I dm'd her on insta about what she's written and how much I enjoyed reading it, and things picked up from there. I very quickly found out that we also had very similar life circumstances, etc. She also really enjoyed that I'm physically fit and have musical talent that most people will never achieve. To break it down:
1. Be physically active and healthy
2. Have interests/obsessions that have the potential to create/offer *objective value* in people's lives (e.g., music, poetry, language acquisition, etc)
3. Be your authentic self (this means being vulnerable which is frightening and uncomfortable). DO NOT BE FAKE

>>33902415
I am pretty sure all you'd get from this is the reputation of a creep

>>33902425
Yeah, if you don't stop trying after she says no, dumbass.

>>33902425
You're not a creep because she's not interested. You're a creep for continuing to talk to a girl who isn't interested. Big difference.

>>33902405
I really wish it were that simple, anon

>>33902442
It actually is, but you've decided to make excuses and focus on all the reasons why it isn't. Kinda like when you buy a new car and all of a sudden you start seeing them everywhere? You are choosing for it to be difficult, so it is. I started cold approaching 2 weeks ago, doing it for 30 or so minutes every saturday and I got contact info every time I went out. I'm not going to try to convince you of shit, because you aren't here for advice. You want to be spoon fed like a baby. The world doesn't work like that. Fix your mindset or keep fucking your fist. Your choice.

>>33902449
Cold approaching women has only made me realize how fucking dumb, entitled, and boring most women are, and how little in common I have with the rest of humanity. It was an alienating experience that led nowhere quickly.

>>33902457
Be alone then. Problem solved.

>>33902461
I seriously believe I prefer that.

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>>33902465
Go jack off and get off the htgwg thread. Pic related is inspiration.

>>33902479
I jerked it before I came to /htgw/, and I can honestly say that was more satisfying than reading any of the anecdotes or piss-poor drivel you pathetic retards try to peddle as "advice." The amount of energy, time, and effort losers like you exert into trying to get women to like you is actually fucking embarrassing and pathetic, and I could never imagine pedastalizing women in America when a plurality of the female population has a mental illness. You say "go jerk off" like it's some sort of insult, when the reality is that the whores in pornography offer the average man more objective benefit than any women will ever offer you over the course of your life.

>>33902500
Lol okay

>>33902507
dubs never lie
>check the post faggot

>>33902511
Lol okay

>>33902382
Feels like half the posters are neck deep in PUA shit and will give advice based on that. Maybe the OP has a lot of this and I missed it because I read some of the resources and seemed okay. Personally I wouldn't listen to those posts, but maybe it works if all you want is to hookup.

>>33902536
>but maybe it works if all you want is to hookup.

Serious question - what is YOUR advice if you don't want to just hookup? Because whenever I ask one of your faggots this the answer inevitably boils down to "work on yourself, ignore women for now and only go for the absolute perfect, virginal, sane (according to 4chan standards which, well, lmao) woman every two years or so that you find her". Which is fucking horrible advice because unless you are incredibly lucky, which most anons aren't otherwise they wouldn't be on this thread, the way to find your ideal girl is to date a lot of them so you know when you find her and have enough experience not to fall for manipulative hoes. And if you can't do that then the only two options are to do what every Catholic schoolgirl does and pray for God to deliver you "the one" or just die miserable, bitter and alone when you hit your 50s and it still hasn't happened because you followed advice from a bunch of tradlarping virgins who never got properly laid themselves.

>>33901682
No I think you're wrong. You did gain experience. Getting reps in is how you build social skills which will help you when you find a girl you actually like. The alternative is you fumbling a baddie because you're a socially awkard retard that never practiced talking. Keep practising until you find one you want to escalate with, getting with a girl you're not into gets annoying real quick. You dont owe them anything after a quick chat and they dont owe you anything either. You just happen to be at the same place waiting for the train and going your separate ways after is perfectly normal.

>>33902700
>work on yourself, ignore women for now and only go for the absolute perfect, virginal, sane (according to 4chan standards which, well, lmao) woman every two years or so that you find her
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I only feel this way BECAUSE I've been around the block enough times that the idea of dating any less than my dream waifu makes me viscerally ill

>>33902718
Perhaps anone in differing phases and with different experiences have differing needs and their best course of action... differs.

Do girls actually ignore guys they like/find attractive?

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How do you meet girls that are more into beeing indoor (excepted clubs/bars etc.)? I don't like going out to clubs and whatnot, i'd rather meet someone who enjoys staying inside to watch movies, play games or other similar things. Maybe go out to eat, do some pottery or some sht once in a while.

Most girls on dating apps, however, seem to be looking for someone outdoorsy, ready for hikes, gym or other crazy things that involve being under the sun sweating for a long time.

I have nothing against this once in a while, but I would rather meet someone who doesn't have that as a personality, but people like me who would rather stay inside well... they don't go out often, not like I could encounter them in the wild. On the internet, it's even worst (for gamergirls in general).

What can I do to meet this type of girl?

>>33902900
Ignore? No.

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>>33902940
Show it in your profile and you're more likely to have those girls match with you.

>>33902700
That's not the consensus around here lmao
The problem is that you have incels and philanderers in these threads who give conflicting yet seemingly complementary opinions. Probably tip: if an anon acknowledges that not all women are the same hive mind insread of using broad generalizations as immutable truths then he probably has valuable advice.

>>33902940
Skip dating apps altogether. It’s not unheard of for couples to meet on sites like twitter. It might take some heavy lifting to find users who are 1. Female, 2. Single, 3. A personality match, and 4. Reasonably close to your location. Discord groups are also a good option. The biggest challenge might be distinguishing yourself from all the other guys vying for her attention but that’s not too different from the economy of dating apps.>>33902953

>>33902940
You should be able to intuit that from their profiles. I also think you are giving too much importance to hobbies. Any mainstream dating app would be fine, or at the bar/club you want to attend.

How do I stop thinking that every girl I see have a boyfriend/is taken?
>I keep self sabotaging in every single way when it comes to trying to get a girlfriend, so I tend to not even try

>>33904590
Assume any woman you’re potentially interested in is single until proven otherwise.

>>33902415
I'm not saying cold approaching is not the solution, but I do want to state that I don't think you're completely correct with your statement on that 'men all cold approached before social media was a thing.' The generation before us was set up for a very favored environment to do that, with bars and social outings being very easy to meet new people and form relationships. I think the 20th century was true for that, but throughout the entire age of society, most pairings were from arranged situations, being introduced to opposite gender people through family or community. Today I think that it is going back to that state, even with the prevalance of stuff like internet and dating apps being commonplace. Neutral third party areas are being phased out in the physical realm. With all that said, I do agree that learning to talk to people in cold approaching and seeing dating as a numbers game is very important and good to internalize.

Is what they say about nurses true? I work in a hospital at an entry level position and one of the nurses aknowledges me in passing, and we've made a few possible "passes" at each other before. I don't know how to advance things or if I even should.

She makes more money than me and has a stupid nose ring. But she sometimes looks at me like she has something to say, but all we can joke about rn is how often we see each other.

I probably shouldn't shit where I eat, right? Or at least not take it seriously. I don't know I have anything in common with her, and the workplace is very cliquey.

>>33904887
My grandma was a nurse. dont do it man. Please.

>>33904927
Elaborate. I can't just mess around at least?

>>33904973
She yelled at him 24/7 till the day before she died. she was the one bossing him around. Ill bet he enjoys the peace and quiet. If tiktok came out a decade earlier she would be famous across the internet. The shit she did in public would blow your mind.

>>33905060
How is this exclusive to nurses in 2025?

>>33905102
Nurses are all crazy whores and always have been

>>33904887
Yes they all hoes and they all cheating. Pump and dump do not date. Go get some night shifts lol.

>>33905139
>>33905198
How do I score with her? Do I have to make a move and give her a number or let her say something? I don't really feel like chasing or putting effort into it if it's just gonna be a fling

>>33901300
>>33901339
do women sense your energy?
i didn't do anything but when i was talking to another girl and making plans i received a message from her
making plans with her also, let's see what happens. nothing is guaranteed frens

Ask me any question. I only have 15 minutes to spare.

I have never posted in this kind of thread before but I’ve been very successful with women, I’ve slept with as many as 3 in a week.

Ask away

>>33905418
Im 26 and never had a gf, how do I get one as fast as possible

>>33905436
The answer all depends on your circumstances

Most importantly, do you live in the western world? Are you in a developing country or in a gulf state or in the far east?

How often do you go out and interact with new people?

Are you overweight?

Do you have a crippling disability?

How do you normally dress?

Are you addicted to any drugs?

>>33905418
How do I score younger pussy as a guy in his 30s?

>>33905483
I rarely interact with anyone because school and work take up too much time and theres no women my age there. I used to be fat but not anymore. Im not finished losing weight but I have a little muscle tone on my arms and chest.

>>33905502
> I rarely interact with anyone because school and work take up too much time and theres no women my age there.

There. That’s the crux of your problem. You got to get yourself out there.

Do you have friends you regularly hand out?

>>33905521
No and theres nowhere TO go out and meet anyone. Any time I try theyre just there with their boyfriends.

>>33899619
You dont truly still believe that for you? If you want young women its best to be around their age. Ideally a few years older. Your looks degrade after about 25 or so.

>>33905524
Not even a club at your school? A newcomers event?

Do you have friends?

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How does Wingman compare to one of the big AIs like ChatGPT for coming up with good responses within online dating?

>>33905550
no to all three

>>33905559
The third is the most concerning.

I have to go now but you got to make some male friends before you can get a gf

>>33905529
Well guys that do well with women generally say the same thing so I'm more inclined to think that they and that anon are probably right in that regard.

>Your looks degrade after about 25 or so.

You really have to be trying very hard to live a shitty lifestyle for that to be the case.

I'm planning on going out this week, so where should I go to socialize with people in their 20s?

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>>33905559
Ow this is real.

>>33904854
>I don't think you're completely correct with your statement on that 'men all cold approached before social media was a thing.

Yeah, I actually thought about that as I wrote it. People were part of a wider network of family, friends, and associates so it was easier to find a partner because your network was just larger by necessity: no social media, no cell phones, etc. That said, I'd argue that cold approaching was also more common then and society was more conducive to it, as you mentioned. I just decided to simplify my point because entry level dudes don't really need to know the depth of the subject. It's kinda like how in Physics I you pretend everything is in a vacuum so the equations are easier and you can focus on learning the fundamentals. Same concept here.

>>33905529
>>33905647
>You dont truly still believe that for you? I
I absolutely *do* believe that. So long as you stay healthy and fit, which is very easy to do, while also improving yourself (skills, income, etc) a 40 year old blows a 30yo and 20yo out of the water. They're stronger, have looks + experience and resources. A 20yo literally just has youth. Objectively: what can a woman do with that? There's a reason women generally prefer older men. A fit 40 year old with a six pack and a house or a 20yo who isn't serious yet and probably still has to jack off so he doesn't bust in 5 minutes. And yes, I know money and resources isn't everything: with charisma and confidence you can still get women. But those things do help.

I was doing some math
I get about 1 match per day

It takes about 5-7 days messaging back and forth before securing a date

Around 25% chance that a girl stops responding
After 100 days I would have secured 12 or so dates.
And I can honestly say this has been pretty accurate.

I can honestly see that the most important thing in dating apps is to increase that matches per day.
If I meet 25 girls in 100 days y'all think I have a chance to get a gf?
1 in 25 chance?

or is it lower....

>>33906523
Ok also thought of something else
Basically dating seems to be a numbers game.
Let's say I meet 25 girls, and out of those 25 2 or so agree to go on a second date (i'm short so this is to be expected)

Out of those 2 girls how many will continue to go to a 3rd or 4th or beyond?

As you can see, in one year I could probably meet 100 girls or so max.
At this rate, the chances a girl will be my longterm girlfriend seems very low...
I might go years without securing one

Isn't this wild?

>>33902405
I would rather date crazy than literally nothing at all.

>>33902308
First of all, very nice captcha
Second of all
Your left hand can't be jealous of your right hand because hands don't have feelings

>>33901787
Trust me I've been hit by that disease several times and they've been devastating. Don't get oneitis when you're dating. Only consider it when you've been together for more than a year.

>>33907179
Ever heard of standards? Get them, and you don't have to date crazy. That and improving yourself a bit.
>Long distance
Yeah, that's not really a relationship, now is it?

Im 33. I want kids. Feeling pretty hopeless.

Is it true that you cant get 21-27 ear olds anymore and they all think youre a creepy pedo? This shit was unblinkingly normal when I was 21.