It's me and my last date in the picture. We dated for 5 weeks and then she said she needed space and didn't want to talk to me. First 4 dates were cute, 4th date she even gave me a handjob while I was driving.I can get dates with 4s and 5s but I want to up my game and get dates with 7s and 8s but it's been very difficult. I want to get into a relationship with a good looking girl who has similar interests/vibe.I lost my virginity at 24 and my body count is currently 10. I was never in a relationship till last year and got into 4 relationships, 2 from raves (Persian, Turkish), 2 from telegram (Russian, Uzbek/Russian mix). All of this happened last year when I was living in Turkey.My stats:-25yo Turkish American (1st gen immigrant, been here for 13 years), I speak English, Turkish, Russian fluently-I work at a law office and make decent money-5'10 190lbs, above average physique, I play soccer-Live with parents-Only have soccer friends, my social circle died out due to my video game addiction in the past (no longer play vidya)Hobbies:-Traveling-Bedroom DJ (Hard Techno)-Hiking-Trying new things whether it be new activities like skydiving, trying various different cuisinesI'm currently in the US and I live here. I use bumble. 50% of my matches are Latinas, 30% Asian, 20% White.I usually date 1-4 times, sometimes hookups, sometimes casual dates but never really goes beyond that. I want to meet like-minded girls but I'm the one that dominates the convo 90% of the dates and it feels one sided. Where can I find like-minded girls? Should I go the rave route like I did in Turkey?I get like 5-10 matches a day on bumble and there was a point I was dating different girls 5 days a week to try my luck out with as many women as possible.Note: I get 20 matches a day on Tinder but I'm not trying to get a disease + the women there are low quality, I'm looking for a long term relationship, not a situationship.Any tips?
Another picture of mine, I'm not 190lbs here, I currently look bigger and better I just didn't have the pic on my PC.
>>33949335>>33949345>guys who look like this are struggling lmaoIt's so fucking over for me
>>33949335>I'm looking for a long term relationshipGood. Try reading this: https://the-real-chad-move.com/
looking at your pics and stats if you're struggling i can't imagine it getting better in the more immediate sense. perhaps they think you're a fuckboy because of your attractiveness. only thing i know is that younger women are more into dating around, exploring their options, and "finding themselves". honestly, you may need to wait until you're older/date late 20s/early 30s girls.
>>33949420He's not that good looking. More attractive than the average channer but he is still pretty mid range. To be honest his experience sounds pretty typical of guys his age around his level. Though I would imagine he's probably more autistic than the rest
>>33949420I have an easier time dating women 28-40. Easier to talk to and conversations flow, they are more interesting. But I want someone close to my age, preferably younger than me. My Russian gf was 4 years younger than me and it was working pretty good for us until she had to move back to Russia, so we broke up.I believe they think I'm a fuckboy (I'm really not), the 2nd pic in the post is my first picture they see on bumble. When I put regular photos instead of bodypics, I get 3 times less matches. I would rather put a regular picture but it decreases my dating pool by a lot.
10 bodies in one year?? You are a whore. You are only going to attract whores from here on out unless you do a 180
>>33949335Pretty nasty of you to post a picture of that woman and tell us she gave you a handy OP
>>33949423I'm fairly social but I can improve my sense of humor and make some friends ig. Convos never get awkward even if we share 0 interest, I can find something to talk about but it does get boring after a while, I can't keep up forever. I'm trying to looksmaxxx still, focusing on fashion and my physique currently.
>>33949335You talk like an incel even though you have sex. You need to get a grip and treat women like people instead of fuckmeat if you want to do anything more than fuck them
>>33949437ThisYou sound insane. Smart women can tell
>>33949432I don't really care to be honest, I had feelings for her, it was working out great and she decided to cut me out of nowhere all of a sudden. I honestly didn't enjoy the handjob either, she lost all that innocence she had all those dates in 5 seconds. I'm looking for someone who I can connect with on an emotional level, not a prostitute. If she had no shame giving me a handjob out of nowhere while I was driving, I have no shame sharing that experience as well as her picture. She wasted my time, money and hurt my feelings.
>>33949437I took my last date to fancy restaurants, bought her gifts, flowers, we had a great time, you think I did all this just to fuck her? I literally had girls booty calling me on bumble when I was dating her, she said that she wanted to be exclusive so I uninstalled bumble after our third date.Tbh I don't disagree with you though, deep inside I do agree with a lot of things incels say and I don't know what to do about it. My own mom cheated on my dad with her boss when I was 8 and I'm traumatized and I see almost all women as object because of my childhood trauma. Trying to find a solution to this with my therapist.
>>33949446>I don't really care to be honestYou should care, you creepy faggot.>>33949465You’re a very vain and superficial person. My mom cheated on my dad when I was seven, not even blowing smoke up your ass, and it didn’t make me drink the incel kool-aid and constantly try to assign numerical ratings to women or give even half a shit about posing or -maxxing anything.You’re insecure and fake as fuck, and women can tell.
>>33949552Diagnosed ASPD, I really don't care and never will care for prostitutes. Your own mom cheated on your dad and it seems like you don't even care. I feel sorry for your dad for having a whore wife and a whiteknight loser son like you.
>>33949446yeah this mentality is exactly why you don't have a serious relationship lmao
>>33949587I had 2 serious relationships, read the post dumbass. I broke up with them because I didn't want to do long distance since one moved to Russia and I moved to the US (in my 4th relationship with my Uzbek gf), not everyone is a basement dweller 4channer like you. I don't even use this garbage platform, I just didn't have anywhere else to post this because I'm IP banned from reddit because there's no free speech on the internet anymore.
>>33949335Truly, some men drown while others die of thirst
>>33949583I do care, but I don’t use that as a lame excuse to be a creepy sick to women. I lost a lot of respect for my mom when I learned she cheated on my dad.You sound like a total retard bro.>>33949801OP is lying facedown in the shallow end, by the looks of it.
>>33949601lol, you are pathetic. Thanks for the laughs.
>>33949601>redditGod you're scumI hate Slavs and Turks, I'd fucking shot the top off your head with my .300 before you even knew you had eyes on you if I could, but our immigration polciy allows dreck like you to come in without being declared enemy combatants.
>>33949425This is what it is, you're attracting a specific type of girl that would want you with that pic as your first one - >>33949583a girl that wants to fuck and probably little to no commitmentHonestly I'm jellyYour struggles are somewhere I wish I was Stop flexing on us>>33949583Oh okay, so you're mentally ill and a burden on society, makes sense nowNow I'm less jelly because when I get that sort of body soon I won't be just abusing my social powers for sex, I'll actually care about the other person. ASPD people are a burden on society, you are a retard and deserve to go away to a faraway place, no hard feelings
>>33949912>Now I'm less jelly because when I get that sort of body soon I won't be just abusing my social powers for sex, I'll actually care about the other personNTA but have fun being ripped and still whacking off, it's only once you're there you'll realize nobody else cares
>>33949345came to say this
>>33949931Being jacked is another +I'm stacking buffsAlready at my current looks I have a great personalityLots to talk aboutSuper caring and I make the other person feel heard and seenI love itSo, I'm not expecting pussy to just jump at me when I'm jacked, I'm seeing it for what it truly is - a major buff to other people's default disposition towards me>Picrel
>>33949813I came here legally and my dad and I make more money than you and your whole entire family ever will. I pay more taxes, I'm more American than you. Funny to hear that I'm a burden on American society by a 4channer lol, wasn't expecting that.It's 6:30am and I'm heading to gym while you are sleeping like the fat pig you are with no plans for the day, don't use the immigrant card on me. Immigrants are running your country, fucking your bitches, y'all are too dumb to run your god damn country, keeping working at fast food and retail.And you guys are talking about ASPD as if it's my choice to have it. I'm a good person, I don't harm anyone, I'm kind to others. I just don't feel empathy as much as society. Thank you for the helpful commenters.
>>33950277What do you usually talk with your dates?I talk about my hobbies, ask theirs, about places they want to travel to, their past, etc. etc. but after a while don't you run out of things to talk about after the 4th or 5th date? You kind of just know them completely at that point and can't proceed to the next level.
>>33949335How did you get relationships from Telegram bro?
>>33949335If all of this is true, I guarantee the reason you cant get dates with "7s and 8s" is because you are so mind-numbingly boring to talk to. This is an npc post.
>>33950878@leobot / дaйвинчик bot | look it up. You won't get action in NA. Mainly active in post USSR countries, Turkey and EU to an extent.If you don't speak Russian, you can't get a girl there, don't even try.
>>33950881Thank you for the constructive criticism unlike other you didn't throw ad hominems. I need to improve my personality, I'm aware. Though I don't have any issues talking to chick in EU. Maybe Americans are NPCs, have you thought about that? Like I said, I carried 90% of the convos, the girls had nothing to talk about especially the white women.
>>33949335>-5'10king of manletssorry but it's over
>>33950833you get no bitches long term because you give salty incel vibes
>>33950900How did you find dating russian girls?
>>33950909nta but yes. American women have too much hivemind sisterhood (superficial, no true loyalty or connections). here in eu it's moreso openly selfish and meritocratic, so unique and jack of all trades women, so to say. If they're gold diggers it's moreso quality of life rather than consumerism culture and brand chasing.
>>33950957I speak B2 Russian, I started learning at 18. I spent a lot of time in Russian communities online and telegram. I had Russian dates in the US as well but not many, mostly in Turkey and Europe. That's the telegram bot that I used.Russian women in Turkey usually don't learn Turkish and stay within their own circles even though they live there but cons to that is they don't have local friends. I was able to show them the hidden gems of Istanbul and we were able to have fun all while speaking Russian (most don't speak English). I had 2 Russian (1 Russian, 1 half Uzbek half Russian) gf from all the dates I went on.
>>33950957Sorry I misread the question. It was very difficult. I made a tier list of women I dated. I can throw the tier list here.Overall I don't recommend dating slavs, expect to spend a lot of money, time, and sanity. Their mindset is "my money is my money, your money is also my money". But if you find the right one, they are the best. My 2 relationships were the best. It's a gamble.
>>33951018latvians aren't slavs. russian """latvians""" are terrible
>>33949335>I can get dates with 4s and 5sPicrel is a 3, homie
>>33951187I can see how you destroyed your dopamine receptors with porn. She isn't the prettiest, but definitely not a 3. Keep jerking it, you are never touching a the opposite gender in your life, except for hugs from your mom.
>>33951222She's ugly as shit and not white. Buh bye genes
>>33951230Half of the girls I dates were pale as fuck. I prefer latinas over them any day, unlike white girls they are actually talkative and interesting, my preference. What do you know about genes, something you'll never pass on to the future generation.
>>33951293You mfs telling me that putting a number on a girl is disrespectful, same mfs telling me that any woman besides white women are not worth dating. I'm getting back to work, thank you to all the people that tried to help and not flood like these hypocritical losers.
>>33951293>>33951305Dude I wouldn't even get an erection for the girl in your OP. GTFO out of here with your copes and back to your meme job
>>33949335Have a (you)
>>33949335Here's my tip, only post on weekends, you will only find losers on the weekdays, they don't have a life, and they are very bitter. I got some useful advices on weekdays.
>>33951366Truth>>33951322You're not fucking anything other than your hand bro, your "standards" are irrelevant because you aren't getting shit to begin with
>>33949335Incredible thread, OP. I think you should try to personalitymaxx and empathymaxx.Women clearly don't like what they see when they get beneath your handsome exterior. You've got major issues.
>>33951382>Women clearly don't like what they see when they get beneath your handsome exteriorThat's because he has ASPD and is an incel who recently ascended. Years of social isolation and lack of affection or attention fucks with your brain
>>33951392What a funny world we live in where an exotic foreign chad is maybe a bit more retarded than the average person I talk to on /v/.
>>33949465>Trying to find a solution to this with my therapist.No woman wants a guy who is in therapy. Oh sure they'll SAY that's what they want, but their gut gets nauseated. You can't be broken when you meet Miss Right.You were given good advice earlier. Put your ego aside and use it.
>>33950833>I'm more American than you.Wow, you're a piece of shit.Are you more American than me, someone whose family fought in the Revolutionary War? Uppity nigger.
brother you're pulling 4s and 5s because YOU are about a 4/5. you're also going to 4chan for dating advice LMAO, there is no help for you bud.
>>33951782I didn't receive any advice in this thread except for a helpful link by one user. All I received is criticism for not being a simp for women. So what advice are you talking about, are you illiterate? Not like they know I'm in therapy, what are they now fucking mindreaders?Maybe I'm not the problem but your sick society is. Because I didn't experience any of these issues in the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, and Turkey. I literally cold approached women in the Netherlands, Germany and was able to talk to them for weeks, going to raves and parties with them and the convos were never boring and they were two sided unlike here.Talking to most women here is like talking to a brick wall. They just talk about themselves but never ask about you, your past, your hobbies, they just want you to listen, simp, and waste your money on them.But what do you know about women, the only place you talk to them is online, you probably never even left your hometown giving me advice here on an anarchy image board when I'm fairly well travelled and own you in so many aspects of life. I want people that have experience with American women to give me advice. Not some video game, cornhub, food junkie who has 0 social experience with women let alone people in general.Some nonamers flooding my post, 90% of you can't even post a pic of yourselves.
>>33951872>Maybe I'm not the problem but your sick society is.Then get the fuck out of our country.
>>33951816Yes I pay more taxes, I contribute more to the US economy, I put most of income on the stock market.Your grandfathers fought those wars and I respect them for fucking those Brits. Not you. The only war you'll partake in is Warzone one your xbox pussy. If you want to serve go ahead uncle sam is waiting for crayon eating warriors for the same wage you get in Donalds.I contribute more to the US economy than you, I am more American than you.
>>33951883You sound like more of an Israeli than an American, frankly.
>>33951878My country bitch. I hold a US passport. I have two homes and this is the one I'm currently living in.
>>33951888Alright, enjoy owning real estate in a sick society full of people you look down on.
>>33950833Personally, I'd split your fucking cranium with .30-06 but to each their own
I love how some immigrants see my country as a resource to be exploited and nothing more. OP deserves his misery.
>>33950833>Angry subhuman noises
>>33951892I don't look down on everyone, just some. Some of the Americans are the coolest people I've met in my life but the internet is full of losers so it makes perfect sense.I have no beef with anyone, I just kindly stated that I don't want basement dweller losers to give me advice on women when they clearly don't have any. Sizden üstünüm, siktiğimin platformunda milleti kendi alçak seviyenize çekmekten başka bir şey yapmıyorsunuz çünkü eziksiniz. Belki 4chan değişmiştir diye 4-5 sene sonra post attım ama gene aynı. Bak orospum olduğunun başka bir kanıtı daha, mesajımı okumak için çeviriye atıyosun. Enough internet for today haha
How convenient it is for OP that modern psychology pathologizes being an asshole.He gets to be someone who suffers from ASPD, not an asshole. Good for him.
>>33951910I gave you advice yesterday and you blew it off. I own my house and a car and am typing this from work right now.You’re an asshole and need to stop being an asshole if you want to stop scaring women away from you. I hope your therapist manages to help you.
>>33951910>I am superior to you, you are doing nothing but pulling the nation to your own low level on the fucking platform because you are losers.>I posted 4-5 years later thinking that maybe 4chan had changed, but it's still the same.>Look, another proof that you're a, you're translating my message to read it.>Enough internet for today hahaSee you tomorrow.
>>33949335She's fucking busted dude, you can do better than that.
>>33951872You're a smart kid. Good luck man. You have the drive, keep it up. Get a spiritual foundation, and read positive stuff. Some men's minds mature and become wise, while most stay as children.
>>33951988I'm trying but I don't have the time. Actually I do but very limited.During the week:-I get up at 6am to hit the gym to lift-Prep breakfast and go to work-I get home at 6pm, hit the gym for the second time for cardio.-Prep food and showerI only have 2 hours left before I go to bed. I don't know how to utilize this 2 hours, read books? Improve my Russian? Record more sets for my soundcloud (I'm trying to get a gig soon)?I sleep at 9:30pm and rinse and repeat during the week.During the weekend I have therapy, workout twice a day just like during the week, play soccer, spend time with my dad, and go on dates (usually one Saturday, one Sunday with different girls). I don't do anything productive even though I have the time. I dick around a lot on YT if I'm home.I want to get back into meditating, journaling, and filling my mind with positive thoughts and affirmations like I used to do in the past. Part of me also says that spending time and money on women are a waste of resources and I'm better off focusing on myself. But part of me wants to better myself alongside a supportive partner that has similar goals as mine to make the process more fun.
>>33952371Would Atatürk be proud of what you posted in this thread?
>>33952388Atatürk would not be proud that I'm looking for relationship advice on 4chan But he would be proud that his soldier is slaying foreigners just like he did back in the day o7 o7 o7
>>33952424I’m not so sure.
>>33952449Yeah I'm coping, I could do better but compared to my past I feel confident about my recent success. I can get a date every day of the week and I think that isn't easy. I was barely getting any a few years prior.
>>33951018damn you really into latinas, huh? you live in a southern state?anyways, you're spending too much time in the gym. maintain your physique, anything beyond where you're at and you're attracting men.you may just need to wait until you're older to get a serious relationship through apps. in the mean time, advance career and explore activities that women might be into (pickleball, running clubs, cooking classes). also may want to move out of parent's home.
>>33949345>Chad was virgin until 24 and still cant get anything but ugly fat girlsJfl. JFLyou have ONE FLAW just ONE and thata your height. because of that singular flaw its over. FUCK WOMEN
>>33952976I don't really have a preference for looks but I like their vibe the most out of all the other races. Well I do but looks are secondary for me. Physical attribute wise I prefer Asian women over any other race but I prefer latinas for the most part because I get along with them a lot better.Asian girls are cute but weird. White girls are gorgeous but NPCs, Russian girls are hot but expensive. Turkish girls are very materialistic like Slav women but they aren't as pretty.Latinas are a little jealous, want more attention compared to other races but they are very fun to hang out with so I prefer them over other races.It's not one sided either, I get most attention from latinas anyways compared to all other races, so win win.
>>33953137>you have ONE FLAW just ONE and thata your height. because of that singular flaw its over.His personality is what's scaring these women away, not his height.
>>33953403I let out all my thoughts here so you guys know but how would they be able to tell? Can they sense it?
>>33953410They can absolutely sense that something is off.You said yourself that you objectify women, and you're very insecure. These things are unattractive.Some of the stuff you wrote in this thread is very ugly, the kind of ugliness that is written all over your face at all times.
>>33953435I said most women, not all. And it is true. Most cheat, most will leave you the moment they find someone stronger than you, whereas men cheat a lot less.My first gf cheated on me, my mom cheated on my dad, my best friend's gf slept with his best friend. So many anecdotes. Are they not objects?? What are you on about? Don't be so naive.I'm looking for quality women. I know they are out there but definitely rare to find unfortunately.
>>33953439Alright, man. Good luck with that.
>>33953435bahahhahahhaa HAHAHHAHA TED BUNDYAND RICHARD RAMIREZGOT MARRIED IN PRISONAFTER THEY WERE CONVICTED AFTER THEY CONFESSED TO RAPE PEDOPHILIA AND NECROPHILIAPERSONALITY IS COPE!
>>33952548chicken legs...
>>33950857Run out of things to talk about is a meme. You genuinely enjoy the presence of the other person. So you find things to talk about, and you enjoy their presence and don't feel pressured to always interview each other. I had a gf for 5 years, lived together for 4, and we never ran out of yapping material. Plus I could always grab her boobs and ass and start humping her and stuffIt was good times, we were both sex coded
>>33953929Just give me an example, what did you talk about with your gf besides daily mundane stuff last a few times you saw her?
>>33953929With my Russian gfs I never ran out of things to talk about because at worst she taught me Russian and since it wasn't my native language, the language barrier made the relationship more exciting and allowed us to take our time with getting to know each other. But with my Turkish gf I ran out of things to talk about besides rave stuff after our 5th date and it became situationship sort of relationship, we broke up soon after that.
>>33950977Interesting stuff anon, I knew the Russian telegram community was big but I didn't realize how much. I wish my Russian mom hadn't given up on teaching me the language, because I was a dastardly, always bitching kid and I didn't want to.You said that you like Russian girls' vibes, what is it in particular? Are they more approachable and honest with what they want?
>>3395585190%+ Russian women will see you as a walking money in my experience. You are nothing but a wallet for them.I find them pretty cold in general even though I speak Russian fine. They don't really care that I learned their language, they don't show interest.Russian girls who showed interest in me were from small towns that grew up watching romance tv series especially Turkish ones and they generally liked Turkish men so I had luck there. But overall I don't really like how Russian or girls from post USSR countries behave.
>>33949335>Any tips?Nope, sadly not. Finding good women is increcibly difficult.