>>33955858
kek, what's your iq?

>>33955918
By a "No" I though you would know what I mean. Is it a "No" or just a no I can't make it.

>>33955923
it's absolutely a no

>>33955929
Explain a bit. If I was saying No to some one I would not leave ambiguity about the future.

>>33955941
if she was interested she wouldn't say "i don't think tonight will work" what kind of excuse is this?
she would say "sorry, but tonight i can't really do it tonight because of blah blah, can we do it some other time"
"rooting for your team from afar" is just bitch reflex keeping her friendzone open, she could "rooted for you" and not a team and didn't need to add "afar"

>>33955952
Fair. Thanks.
Also she might be a bit of an autist, so I am never sure I am reading things right.

Anyways it always comes back to respecting peoples time and fucking off when its appropriate.

I'll wait around for second opinions.

>>33955961
>she might be a bit of an autist
well yes, context can change alot

>>33955858
>Is this a no?
Correct.

>>33955952
>"rooting for your team from afar" is just bitch reflex keeping her friendzone open
Or she's just being a normal, cordial human being that wants to keep things on a positive note. Not sure if you have much experience with how grass touchers talk but "Hey, no thanks I can't be there but I hope you have fun!" is like a pretty normal way to turn something down.

>>33955965
Kek, I should have mentioned that. Everyone else says she is awkward, I don't mind and think it's cute. It is actually probably why I am interested to start with, it's very sweet.

>>33955977
More than fair. It's the "tonight" that got me. Maybe I just want it to work out too much.

>>33955983
Yeah, when people are interested they'll offer a reschedule or alternative of some kind. Its like if you offered someone $500 for something and they say "No" and don't make any kind of counter offer. Its pretty clear they aren't interested in selling to you, if that makes sense.

>>33955994
I was going to say I generally follow the rescheduling rule, but here it feels different as its last min.
Also I kind of question zoomers ability to follow these social rules

>>33955858
She could be tired from last night with Chad or it could be your choice of entertainment is garbage.

>>33956007
>Also I kind of question zoomers ability to follow these social rules
I mean, maybe, but the through-line is that if someone wants to spend time with you they'll put in effort. This is pretty universally the case. Sure, there's cases of people being socially awkward or maybe lacking follow through but at the end of the day the distinction is rather irrelevant. Whether someone CANT put the energy into you or WONT put the energy into you the result is the same.

>>33956022
Logic is solid. Thank you.

Harry Potter? How about take her out for a drink or karaoke?

>>33956047
It's bar trivia, I figured the subject mater this week was only a plus.

>>33956052
Its also helpful to keep in mind that date ideas aren't. Again, if someone is interested in you then a date idea they aren't super jazzed about isn't going to stop them. If a girl you really liked asked you to a movie and the movie looked bad you wouldn't go "Oh man I'd love to date this girl but I don't like these movies so I'm gonna stay home." Nah, of course you'd go. Don't get worked up into trying to create the perfect date or the perfect circumstances. If she was really interested it wouldn't matter much.

>>33956118
Well damn.

>>33956123
Yeah, sucks, but its the truth.

>>33956123
Yeah maybe she would have said yes to "Would you like to come over and get in bed with me" but you had to pick Harry Potter trivia hahaha

>>33956156
It's a white girl, they love that shit. Its like crack to them.

>>33955858
Just wait and see. What's the rush?

>>33956206
Honestly, just the holidays. If like an excuse to spoil a girl with some little stuff.

>>33955941
It's a no + softening so she doesn't feel bad. If she was interested she would have given a counteroffer.

Is there a single femanon opinion in this thread? Everything reads like redpilled pick up artist shit. Reading this deep into a normal ass conversation is incel shit.

as a general rule, if a girl is replying to you, it's a positive in some fashion. The only really negative is silence

>>33956444
Checked
This
And
This text is positive over positive.
It's "not "tonight"" as well as "cheering for you"
If she was uninterested she would not soften the "no" twice with an open end to the future.
Tell her how you did next time you talk.

>>33956444
>>33956480
This is true, but it's also a tough spot to be in. I'd rather be ghosted and than stuck with ambiguity.

OP has a chance with unclear odds, and in order to score he's gotta pull some rizz out of his ass after having already suffered this L.

Godspeed soldier. It's up to chance now.

she’s saying she wants you to come to her house and surprise her with forced sex op

>>33956118
nta
>a girl you really liked asked you to a movie and the movie looked bad you wouldn't go "Oh man I'd love to date this girl but I don't like these movies so I'm gonna stay home." Nah, of course you'd go
not me, tho.
i would try all possible tricks up my sleeve to change her idea. i dont have a tv and the last time i watched a movie was maybe 2016 with my parents? she would ask me a lot of uncomfortable questions about xyz movie xyz plots xyz mainstream stars and all shed get from me would be le ebic fluoride stare.
no thanks

>>33956751
What?
Is this a hypothetical or a real story?
What's it got to do with anything?
I am very confused by you anon.

>>33956784
lets just say i cant pretend to be interested in something i am not. not even for the love of someone other. im too honest

>>33956938
Interesting.
OP here.
In my case I don't know if she is shy, busy or to nice to shoot me down out right.
I honestly don't think she is against the idea of pop culture trivia, this is just knowing her.
Thanks for the suggestion though.

>>33956971
Personally I think you should keep trying until she either accepts, ghosts, or flat out tells you it's not happening.

If she likes you, then being persistent won't turn her off. If she doesn't, then your persistence will make that abundantly clear. Then you either get the girl, or get closure.

>>33955858
Its a no

>>33956990
Has this ever worked for you?

>>33957003
To varying degrees. It's never landed me in a happy, committed relationship. But it has gotten me laid. So make of that what you will.

The person in question was a hardcore avoidant who only gave me a chance after I used blunt force to break down her walls. (Figuratively, not literally.) I do think a lot of women behave this way, tho. Maybe it's not even a gender thing. There's this weird zone of polite small talk that if you don't escape ASAP, your chance fizzles out.

You have to say something flirtatious, or be persistent about trying to hang out. Whatever you do, it's gonna be kinda scary and awkward. No pain no gain, right?

>>33957026
I don't want to push it till I get told off, but on the other hand I don't want to give up early and miss an oppertunuty.
I have done both and both suck.
I have never just been shot down outright... What's up with that?

>>33956971
>Thanks for the suggestion though.
uohh, ehh.
no
this is not a suggestion. as the saying goes "bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks".
ive learned that one shall never tell the woman the truth about how you really feel. never show them your weak side, never show em emotions
they will exploit you and see you as weak and leave you
of course exceptions exist but they are not the norm and not the subject of this thread.
lets just say they are on a "need to know basis"
(which really a shame, being greated out of the rib as a present for us and never being able to tell them truths really breaks my soul)

>>33957084
>I have never just been shot down outright... What's up with that?

That's just women. They never say anything directly. I think it has something to do with plausible deniability. For instance - she can reject you without acknowledging your feelings for her, and in that way avoid any potential blowback. Because she can say she never knew how you felt. (Even though you both know what's going on.)

My two cents - you don't stand to lose anything by pushing things till they give. Let's say she tells you off. That sucks, but would you really want to continue a friendship under false pretenses with someone you wish you could sleep with?

>>33957101
Honestly I have almost all wholesome feelings for her, just want to hold her hand and maybe make her dinner. But the same still applies, and while I would like to be her friend I have to be willing to risk that for the chance to make her feel the warm and fuzzies.

>>33957130
I guess you have to ask yourself, are you willing to just be pals with someone you have those feelings for? Because even making a non aggressive move will risk any friendship. The stakes are high, but so are the potential gains. That's how it goes.

>>33957026
I agree

>>33957130
Being friends is gay

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>>33955858
Don't hit this girl up anymore. If you see her in person be friendly, but DO NOT text her anymore. If she's interested in person then you can text her again, if not then just don't text. If she's willing to be your friend fine, but mentally prepare yourself to fully accept that she's not an option anymore. If she ever comes onto you, then may be, but take the reason why into consideration.

>>33957161
I don't plan on it. She was kind to me so that's all I can ask for.
I really hope the issue is it's just before Thanksgiving and my dumbass planned things poorly.

>>33956698
her replying isn't an L, not really. Like i said. The only real negative is silence. But some flirtation needs to be injected. Or something polarizing, its too safe right now.
Also don't say rizz, jesus

>>33957486
In person I am a more of a flirt. It's not like I got her number for nothing. I do need to be more blunt though that is true

>>33957513
I would not say blunt, just polarizing. Women need little emotional spikes on conversation. Little things to throw them off

>>33956751
>>33956938
This is why you're an autistic moron who gets no play
You're not a catch, and even if you got a few ugly girls to fuck you in the past that doesn't justify being so fucking entitled.

You're not her first option. You're not a priority.
Treat her similarly.

>>33955961
I hate some bitches so much it's unbelievable

Fuck em
Be Chad

Looks is the only thing that fucking works. Personality is second to that. Rooting from afar while creaming on some dude's cock. I hate this!!!! FUCK!

>>33958316
>>33958333
Checked.

The negativity here is getting out of hand.

>>33958089
yeah they try to catch me, but i turn them almost always down or they/i let them fizzle out.
i have standards, morals and principles.
if you are a pretentious faggot, so be it.
i will not bend myself for some pussy or vanity.
im not here to play.
i have my directives and objectives.
>so fucking entitled
if you make yourself good, beautiful and truthful, you literally become entitled (by outside force(s)). it is the law of the cosmos
not that (you) would have any concept of these things tho...which is a-ok. i dont judge you.

>>33958963
I think it's because it a bad example, you should go to the movie if you are invited.