>>33986089
These days if you want to get a woman roleplay with AI as they use it for dating advice and other things if you pretend to be that person you will have an insight into there behaviour and can manipulate them into being with you.

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>>33986089
Average men in mongolia
not whining, moping, incels, just eggcels

I've only ever had sex with my ex girlfriend and I used to suffer from premature ejaculation pretty bad and sometimes I wouldn't remain hard enough (I didn't think she was horny enough) but just sometimes the sex was very very good
I'm going to have sex with a new woman soon, what can I do to prevent the same things from happening? Haven't been watching porn for 2 years now and I don't fap. Any supplements I can take for a better experience?

>>33986322
Cocaine.

>>33985499
I hate you so much.

all these meetups suck it just feels like so much effort to go to some thing and just every woman is either too young or too old or not compatible for other reasons.
Dating apps should be good in theory I’m just not attractive enough for them to work
Idk do I just cold approach women who seem like they would be “my type” in terms of being quiet and serious types

Any advice for getting matches on dating apps? I'm just getting straight up 0 likes.

My pics indeed suck, but I dunno what to do. There aren't many pics of me being out with my friends and the ones that exist are awful because I'm so camera shy.

>>33987047
No advice except this:

Get the fuck off dating apps. Do you like catfishers and other scammers? Do you like people who only use the apps to mine for attention? Didn't think slow.

>>33987047
>There aren't many pics of me being out with my friends
found your problem, it's definitely the pics. pick one night to go out on the town, have a great time at great places, and ask strangers if they'll take your picture as you do something cool. change clothes and go to a new place and do it again. do it at a restaurant the next day, like you're across the table on a date.

and before you do all that, get the best haircut you can, invest in a decent shirt or two. all in all you might spend what, a few hundred bucks? this is what actual "lifehacks" are like, they just take genuine effort to unlock

>>33987079
Where are you supposed to meet women?

>>33987079
Idk I have three friends who met their spouses on tinder, so I'm down to take my chances.

>>33987084
How do I act natural with a camera pointed at me? That's a big problem of mine. I just freeze up. It makes me so uncomfortable.

>>33987195
bro just go to the laundromat, they r open 24/7 and women do clothes! they love clothes! I spent 7 hours playing gacha games at the laundromat today and spoke to like, 12 women! They have to wait until their clothes are done so its ample time for conversation!

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How do I control how much attraction I give towards women
Either I'm completely enamored, crush on/simp for a girl like she's perfect and out of my league
Or I don't give the slightest fuck about her and think she's not worth it
Both cases mean I never approach
What do I do to balance this so I can

>>33987477
I think you go full tilt with the enamored behavior until you get so brutalized that you become naturally reserved in order to protect your feelings.

>>33987477
How about start approaching the women you don't give a fuck about for the XP? Once you have enough practice you can then start with those you have a crush on

>>33986089
anybody want some extremely specific advice? willing to give my opinion, can't guarantee it'll be perfect though

ok anons how do i rizz up this girl in the gym, whats the play

>>33987973
Personally I (woman just so you know) wouldn't just outright go up to her, I'd wait for a chance to at least strike up a conversation, but after that I don't really know what you'd have to do next, maybe just start with exchanging pleasantries and your names, and greet her whenever you see her next

>>33987952
Yeah ofc

>>33987195
I'm so tired of reading this cope all the time here, dude you can meet women anywhere. The problem is a lot of you guys just don't do anything or go anywhere that puts you around women (or even just people in general), thereby forcing you online onto dating apps. A realm meant for the good looking (or at least those with good pics), where you were never going to succeed. That's a lifestyle problem.

>>33987195
I meet a lot of girls through my friends and their girlfriends friends.

>>33987223
>How do I act natural with a camera pointed at me? That's a big problem of mine. I just freeze up. It makes me so uncomfortable.
i am clearly talking to someone who is going to find a reason not to do any of the good advice he's given. so frustrating. look dude if you can't figure out how to act natural on camera why are you even concerned about getting a gf, you have way deeper problems like complete and utter lack of agency. see a therapist

>>33988335
i don't have those though

>>33987047
I have selfies only and I get matches and dates. Upgrade your pics, that's the most imporant thing on the apps. Rule 1&2 are always in effect

>>33987079
Cope from someone who isn't attractive enough to do well on dating apps
I had a great time on Hinge earlier this year. The only downsides are yes it's a lot of work, it's like a video game almost, and yes the women are low quality. But good for getting casual relationships for sure.
>>33987260
>spoke to like, 12 women!
And you will receive sex from 0 of them
>>33988284
>dude you can meet women anywhere.
THIS is the cope.
How many times do I need to tell you fucking retards, women do not care about meeting men IRL for dick. They have a dick buffet on The Phone. If a woman is above 5/10, every day a new penis will present itself to her on The Phone.
Unless you are truly, truly exceptional, or you're a dedicated low-inhibition high-confidence sex pest, any women you try to meet IRL will brush you off.

>>33988352
NTA but you're a faggot, stop giving "advice" and go back to pleddit

Am I the only one who feel high on Kambucha? Is this normal?

I know part of the reason, but I want some clarification if anyone knows

>Get dating app a little while ago
>Get about 2 likes in a week
>Decide to branch out and get some others
>It's very hit and miss
>One of them works quite well though and I get 1-3 likes a day
>Most of the time I'll match with them just to "get more confident", purposely not matching with obvious bots
>Helps that I gave myself a larger distance to work with
>This goes on for about 6 weeks
>Then suddenly it just stops
>If I'm lucky I get 1 like a week now

How does it just drop off like that? Is this a trick so I'll buy some sort of premium or plan from them?
I know there's a limited pool of people, but at the same time there's also more people joining every day and a fuckload of bots that I don't even get likes from them anymore. Genuinely feels like I'm under some kind of shadowban.

>>33988739
I dunno where this myth that women have an endless dick buffet on dating apps comes from, every girl I’ve ever dated both online and offline professed to be overwhelmed by and dislike them.

So, what the actual fuck am I doing wrong if literal rapist piss goblins are getting busty teen gfs, meanwhile if I approach a woman with the best intentions I get treated like the rapist? >>33981681

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WRONG? I will pay fucking money for someone to figure it out for me.
>inb4 manlet
I'm 6'2" and I lift
>inb4 "he's asking them"
I ask girls out and I get
>ignored as if I'm not even there
>accosted by male orbiters
>actually physically fucking assaulted (more than once)

>>33988751
It just works like that. There are weeks when nothing's happening and there are weeks when I have multiple dates.
You might say it's the luck of the draw, but as the apps are offering premium options, I wouldn't be so sure.

>>33988784
>this myth that women have an endless dick buffet on dating apps comes from
Gee I wonder where it comes from too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8rzo4Ik4M
Also it's not just "dating apps." Instagram is a dating app now. Tik tok is a dating app now. Fucking kik and Whatsapp are dating apps and has been for a while now.
From there, you have to contend with the 10 or 20 guys she's met and knows IRL better than who are constantly sending her "wyd"s and "hey beautiful"s.
The Phone in general is the modern woman's philosopher stone. It's her portal to the world.
>every girl I’ve ever dated both online and offline professed to be overwhelmed by and dislike them
Because they don't want to look like a slut when they're locking down beta billy. Trust me they love the attention if nothing else.

i'm just a regular and she's a bartender
anyways i went home with this other girl one night while she was working and the vibe ever since then has been completely off

>>33988953
Yeah I've tried shitting where I eat on several occasions and it's never gone well. Dating apps have kind of broken people (women and men) and now nobody knows how to handle hooking up outside of that ecosysten

>>33988785
>I ask girls out and I get
>>ignored as if I'm not even there
>>accosted by male orbiters
>>actually physically fucking assaulted (more than once)
If this is true and not bait you're probably doing some woefully wrong shit or not picking up cues.

>>33988968
Like we were really flirty with each other whenever I'd go and hang out there while working, I didn't think she was actually into me, but ever since I went home with that girl the vibes are just off and now she's suddenly besties with a dude I can't stand and hadn't started going there until that following week

Is it bad if I talk about my family a lot on dates?
I grew up moving around a lot and even though I can talk a little about what that was like (cool but I missed a lot of milestones as a result), it also means my immediate family had a really outsized impact on my life and socialization. My dad was abusive and from him I learned everything not to do, and my mom's helped me get through years of trying to play social catch-up. And they come from pretty unique backgrounds that I like studying/learning about, much of which shaping my worldview and politics.
I admire my older sister for so many reasons and go out of my way to help my younger siblings with whatever they're going through. They're big in my life, but it seems like if/when I talk about my family with women they dry up and I feel like a loser because of it.

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>>33989112
he has trips and you don't, faggot.

If a girl starts making lots of sexual jokes with you, it's a horseshoe moment right? I'm either up to my forehead in the friendzone or I just became a viable candidate

Should I sell coaching services on how to get laid?
t. guy with over 100 body count who was a incel and helped his friends also get laid

im not judgemental and im really nice, most of the coaching advice i see is really bad too. is this a retarded idea? maybe like a private discord or something?

the last 3 women have either given me the wrong number and one didn't text me (I gave her my number)
How did I go from fucking a 10/10 to being a complete fucking loser

>>33989130
Then take her lead and make sexual jokes of your own about her

>>33989179
Instead asking the girl for her number you should have taken their phones and entered your number, and text yourself with: "Hi [your name], I'm [girl's name]".
This way the next days, she'll find a conversation initiated by her with you, even if she doesn't quite remember who you were due to being drunk/high or whatever.

>>33989174
No one's buying a "coaching" service when there's tens of hundreds of videos already out there all saying the same shit. What can you say or do that puts you above the endless sea of free options?

>>33989320
that's stupid and I don't meet girls when they're drunk or high anyway

>>33987477
If they seem asexual around you its because youre seen as unattractive. They become whores in the presence of the right guy, ive seen it myself. Used to work as a bartender for a while, the behavior ive seen was enough to blackpill me for life. Even the shy, mousy ones become whores that grope and grind. Those same girls act like royalty in the presence of their beta male friends and they even get offended and disgusted if anything related to sex comes out of the mouth of a man they dont find attractive. If a girl is ever acting appalled at the mention of women even so much as having a libido, its because the man thats even so much as going into that topic without being attractive, is deemed as a creep instantly. They will try to shame you into going back where you belong in their imagined hierarchy. They dont want ugly men seeing them as the whores that they know they are, especially in friend groups. If the ugly ones found out the girls were giving ass to their attractive male friends, that could potentially open them up to approaches from those same betabuxx friendzoned guys and they couldnt explain away the dynamic without socially incrimination.

>>33988352
That was pretty dickish. I've been in relationships, I've just never used dating apps before. It's a new world to me and I'm trying to figure it out.

>>33988999
Been there. It sucks. Your brain is telling you, we hooked up, it was a good time, things will be even better between us from now on. But instead, she seems cold and distant. The unfortunate truth is, she regrets it, and now she has to deal with you on a regular basis.

Chicks just don't look at sex the way we do. For us it's a 'win', we're scoring. If we can get sex consistently from the same person, even better. For them, it's a bargaining chip, and once they've traded it away they've lost some standing in the power dynamic between you and she. If they haven't gotten anything meaningful in return, they just resent you for having hustled some sex out of them.

>>33989179
Sometimes the sun shines kindly on you, sometimes it don't. That's life, pal. Enjoy things next time they're going your way, because they won't always.

>>33989442
> If a girl is ever acting appalled at the mention of women even so much as having a libido, its because the man thats even so much as going into that topic without being attractive, is deemed as a creep instantly. They will try to shame you into going back where you belong in their imagined hierarchy.
What am I supposed to do about this, chase fat girls exclusively or something? People will shame me for that too. Folks on this board claim to be wealthy with top % fitness and still get treated this way, so what chance do I have?

>>33989598
dont give a fuck and do it anyway, confidence is sexy

>>33989603
Women told me confidence was creepy

So many mind games and layers just to have ONE relationship in my life man

>>33989619
There isn't a science to it, I'm sorry to say. So many people will tell you so many different things, and all of it contradictory. You'll make yourself crazy trying to act unnaturally in order to win a girlfriend like this is some sort of video game. Women aren't a monolith, just like men aren't a monolith. Different things work with different girls. You can't read their minds, all you can do is try and not take rejection too personally. Attractiveness, income, personality, life circumstance, the subculture you belong to - all these things and so much more play a role to some degree, and no one can give you the percentages or tell you your odds. Just roll the dice. The only thing that's for certain is that the more you try, the more you increase your odds.

>>33988976
>you're probably doing some woefully wrong shit
Ok, what is the "wrong" thing I'm doing by going up to a girl and introducing myself or making an observation/comment about our mutual surroundings?
>not picking up cues
Again like what? Like they way you retards think a girl holding eye contact for 2.5 seconds means she's like, totally into you bro?

I'm not trying to be an asshole but you have no idea how frustrating it is. Men shorter than me, uglier than me, less fit that me DO EXACTLY WHAT I DO and walk away with girls while I walk away with wounded pride.
How. Does. That. Work? What are they doing, that I am not, even though we're both doing ostensibly the exact same thing?

>>33989632
In your opinion then, how do some guys get body counts into the triple digits while other guys remain virgins? There's very clearly something appealing about them to a wide variety of women.

Here's how you handle your breakup. Look at it neutrally not good or bad. Next look at it as it is what it is. Now then move forward. Lastly, make the most of your life hoping you'll do good the next time not messing it up like last time.

>>33989721
I don't know, anon. I doubt even those dudes know. They could tell you their routine, and you could follow it to the letter, and you'd probably walk away disappointed.

It's best to be authentic to yourself and at least fail on your terms. When you try to be someone you're not and still fail, you've lost on two fronts and that feels miserable.

>>33989619
Confidence isn't creepy if you can make it look natural i.e. you're confident without trying too hard

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>>33987047
You really just need better pictures.
I don't have a MASSIVE amount of likes, but I have a slow feed, and I've taken all my pictures myself. It kinda helps that I have a real camera, but phones can do pretty well these days too with all their computational photography software.

What you need are basically three things:
>1. A headshot (generally chest-and-up) where you can see your face clearly, and where you look your best.
This was the hardest to get, but I just found a good background (I recommend something outdoors without a lot of distraction) and took about 70-80 photos at various angles, expressions, etc. until I was sure I finally had one which I liked, then went through them all afterwards to pick out the best. Took about 2-3 hours on a weekend.
>2. A body shot so she can see you're not horribly obese.
This one should also, ideally, not be just you standing in front of the camera, but you doing some sort of activity or hobby that you have. You'll want to wear clothes that look good on you.
>3. A photo that makes her want to ask a question.
This is a nebulous category, but you want something that's unusual enough or strange enough to immediately grab her interest while also making you look good. A good frame of reference would be if something kind of looks like it could be from a movie scene, where you're inviting the person to imagine what happens next. Pic related would be mine – I genuinely do spelunking as a hobby, but I definitely don't go into caves with torches all the time. The point is to get her to want to ask "Where is this?" or "Where'd you get that torch?" or even just "Wow, your pictures look cool!", some easy-to-pick-up thread to get a conversation started.

>>33989503
it wasn't the bartender i had slept with, i went home with another girl while she was the one working

>>33988811
>using cherrypicked whores from the whatever podcast as an example

Guys trying to slide in DMs really aren’t competition.

Where do you even run into 20–22yo reserved/reclusive fat women on a Saturday

I got this girl's number from hinge earlier this week. didn't set up a date yet but we were flirting a lot over text and she seemed pretty interested; I last sent her a voice note the day before thanksgiving though and haven't heard from her since right before then - normal because of the holiday or should I assume she's less interested now for some reason?

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>>33989977
Thanks for the tips. Is something like this okay for the body shot? Or is it too staged? A friend snapped it for fun, but I can see how it might look like I took it specifically for a profile pic.

>>33989793
So neutrally would be like:
It was a thing that happened. We met, had a great time, and it ended. or is that looking at it as what it was?
Moving forward yes, I've been moving forward but she is chasing me in my dreams.
>make the most of your life hoping
Wat, hope doesnt make your life
Who says I messed it up? Now you're getting back into the bad.

Zach, you're all fucked up.

>>33990349
Shes taking mad dumps rn you'll never be able to give her the same anal devastation.

>>33990556
it's truly over.

>cant find a virgin
so fucking over bros.

legitimately how do I get over the first girl who I actually wanted and didnt just say "ehh ok" to for a relationship?
We "loved" each other for 3 months then she left me. That's never happened before and it's driving me fucking wild. I always leave, not the girl.

>>33990550
Just don't worry and do something with your life. Best solution.

>>33990671
I did. She was 24 and really cute, but wanted to go exclusive before kissing. I agreed, but then it turned out she was rather unstable. Never bothered taking her V-card, licked her pussy a few times and let her go after dating for 1,5 month or so. She never even learned my last name

>>33990671
Be careful what you wish for. Real-life virgins aren't the sweet, pure Disney princesses you imagine. Most are deeply insecure, overcompensating with a loud “boss girl” attitude, and usually sit at a 5/10 or 6/10 on a good day. They’re basically the female version of incels. That’s why nobody bothers to take their V-card, because the juice ain’t worth the squeeze. If that's the type you want, go for It, there's plenty of them, just that you won't find 7/10 or 8/10 who are still virgins.

>>33989713
Maybe context matters? Maybe you're competing in the wrong environment? Try parties and social events within your framework, within your environment. E.g if you have a school, go to ALL the school parties and activities regularly to meet and be around students.
If you're working - find some social events company in your city that organizes social events regularly and go there , SPECIFICALLY social events.

>>33990362
anon, we're from the same place (was just at the theater there a few days ago), which means I know there are at least twenty different spots you could have taken an infinitely better photo within a five minute walking radius from this.
also who the fuck takes a photo facing a bright light source?

What if one day she shit test you buy asking for phone and social media password?

>>33991486
>Using social media at all
NGMI

>>33990693
The scenario is the same, just the feelings are different.

All the reasons you liked and loved her are valid, and can maybe be found elsewhere.

I asked a girl out for a date a week ago. She said she had to check and see if she was busy that night. I never heard an answer from her but we kept talking and seeing each other. Should I send her a text and reconfirm or let it go?

>>33991567
She might have forgotten, might have said that to appease you. If you can realistically see her saying yes, go for it.

>>33991572
Is that something I should text or should I wait a few days until I actually see her? I'd like to say I can realistically saying yes, but I always get in my own way so I don't know.

>>33991567
First of all, did you use the word "date" or not when you asked her out?

I say this because the way she's acting, most charitable thing I could say is that she didn't realize you wanted to take her out on a date. Less charitably, she doesn't want to date you and avoided telling you that directly because unfortunately that's what women do.

Seek clarity.

>>33991584
I specifically asked her to be my +1 for a Chistmas event.

>>33991595
Not a date.
>>33991577
I suggest trying again with another 1-on-1 activity and explicitly say it's a date.

>>33990671
I remember how retarded I was when I lost my virginity and honestly I don't think I could handle being on the receiving end of that.

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Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate

>>33986089
Here guys, let me simplify it for you.
How to get women:
>Be fat but also be muscular and skinny
>Have a lot of money but also be broke
>Be empathetic but also be be a convicted murderer
>Be a Leftist but vote for Donald Trump
>Don't have any hobbies except sex and drinking
>If you do have any hobbies make sure you don't have them around her or she'll get the ick
>Don't have any values or principles, live your life with total disregard to the future and the consequences of your actions, women especially like men who lack accountability because it remind them of themselves
>Bo pro abortion but literally rape her every weekend or she'll get bored and just say you raped her anyway
>Castrate your children and turn them gay
>Literally give her all your money, and when she inevitably spends it all on stupid shit as she always does be prepared to give her more
>Have a big dick but also never have sex with her because she's not in the mood
>Be 6 feet tall but also be insecure about your height because you were born with "Height Privileged" and that is being racist to short people, and racism is illegal to women.
>Take her on a date to the local cemetery and spit on her grandparents graves, women literally hate their families and where they come from so this will show her that you're a Progressive.
>Let Hispanics live in your house to hide from ICE
>Give her a job where she feels like she's the most important person, like HR or Management, it's alright that you do all the work, she just needs to have the illusion of power or she will lose her mind. You need to be a literal rapist but also make her think that she's actually the one raping you, this will be hard for many of you but you'll figure it out.
>Spend your free time naked in places frequented by children, this shows her that you're capable of asserting dominance. You might get put on a list but that's fine because she'll just think you're misunderstood and find you more attractive.
>>>

>>33989047
Bump

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>>33991646
>>>Cont
>Don't walk too fast or too slow, if you walk like you're not walking too fast or too slow she will think you're doing it on purpose and that deep down you're really a fast walker and she will get the ick.
>Make sure to establish how many breaths your allowed to take around her, it's different for every woman, but generally if you breath to much she will get the ick, so I would recommend learning to hold your breath for minutes at a time and then walking not fast or slow to the bathroom every so often to catch your breath
>Don't wear shorts
>If you have long hair she'll think you're gay but if it's too short she'll think you're balding and end up cheating on you, and really this is your fault.
>Don't speak as if you're familiar with the English language whatsoever, you need to slur your words and make it so that people are constantly asking you to repeat yourself, of course Women won't ask you to repeat yourself because she will just assume she understands you, and the closer you get to sounding like a caveman the more intelligible you will be to her.
>Forget how to read or write, literally just speak in acronyms and draw little scribbles for your signature.
Hope this helps guys, it's tough out there, but just remember, if you're giving her everything she wants then she is going to get the ick, and if you don't give her what she wants she's going to leave you.
Good luck.

Any west eurobros got experience with eastern euro girls like polish etc? What is their dating culture and expectations like?

>>33991625
Doesn't matter cause she said no, so I'm not going to even bother.

>Start wearing makeup
>Been approached at the grocery store, gym, and while working
I should have done this years ago. Don't sleep on guyliner bros.

>>33991826
>Woman Starts lying about her appearance
>Woman starts getting more attention
>Woman starting lying more and more in various ways to get more attention
You literally behave like a woman, shut the fuck up.

>>33991826
>Don't sleep on guyliner bros.
Don't need to, nonny. I've got huge eyelashes and pretty eyes that already have the girls talking to me

>>33991839
Might as well stop showering too, since you don't really smell like that.

>>33991872
Basic hygiene does not equate bullshit cosmetics to lie about your appearance, and if you didn't think like an idiot woman you'd know the difference.
Get bent.

>>33989482
>That was pretty dickish.

Because I gave you essential advice and this was your response:

>How do I act natural with a camera pointed at me? That's a big problem of mine. I just freeze up. It makes me so uncomfortable.

You're just giving me homework to do on your behalf. You've created a second-layer problem/excuse to get in front of what I just told you to do. This is the habit of men who aren't going to take my advice.

If you're genuinely interested in how to make my advice work for you I'm still willing to talk to you. But in my experience, these conversations devolve into "but I can't do it because of A, B, and C" and it's endlessly frustrating

>>33988742
weird response

>>33991750
I wouldn't ask her out on a date right away, then. I can't emphasize enough that your plan wasn't really a date.

>>33987079
>70% of all modern relationships start on a dating app

You’re coping. he cant get likes because he doesn’t meet the looks threshold or height threshold considering foids can set height filters, required.

>>33991954
She's a coworker and I said before this that if I got anything but a yes I would just quit trying entirely with her. She said she is prepping for Christmas that night with her family, but I just don't have a good feeling and I don't want to fall deeper into having a bit of a crush on her.

>>33991966
Pretty much, and those 70% of relationships also have overlap with the same women and men just getting new matches, when in reality most people in this generation are single now.

>>33992001
>She said she is prepping for Christmas that night with her family, but I just don't have a good feeling and I don't want to fall deeper into having a bit of a crush on her.
Coward shit. Just chill out for now ask her out in the new year. She didn't reject you, she was just already busy.

>>33992132
It's not Eugenic though, they don't make good decisions, nor do they make healthy choices when it comes to sexual selection.
The men they select are not good men, and they are often dysgenic, and hypergamy has always produced problems for society, meaning everything they're building will collapse, as it literally has been.

>>33991890
I'm just saying I've always struggled to relax in front of a camera. That was literally included in my first post. This isn't something I invented to avoid taking your advice.

Girl I met at university was rubbing up on me, initiated texting, and being flirty etc, I want to meet up with her after the term stops. She has such a tight body, I know it'll lead to something. but im trying to christian maxx.

What do ? also she seems to want something serious but I don't know if I vibe with her like that.

>>33992001
I'd be wary about asking out a coworker, depending on how closely you guys work together. I'm someone who just got 'dumped' by a coworker after 2+ years of being involved. She just grew distant and eventually stopped responding to my texts. Now I have to see her everyday and it's awkward as fuck and makes it impossible to get over this.

This girl at college often asks to have a sip of whatever I'm drinking, usually coke or juice or whatever. Is that a normal thing for people to do? We're friendly but we're not friends, more like we study at the same time and go to the same classes. She has a boyfriend as well.
Is she trying to hint at something or is she just a moocher?

Welp bros I need help. This is going to be a long one.

I met her about eight months ago through university and mutual friends. At first it was just group stuff: coffee after classes, studying, joking around, PUBG sometimes. Over time we started talking more, sharing personal things. She comes from a divorced family, has complicated feelings about her father, and that clearly shaped how she relates to men. She’s emotionally open, talks about fears, family, surgery, stress, but at the same time keeps things ambiguous.

There’s a guy in her life (let’s call him H) who’s kind of always there. He’s very similar to her younger brother in looks and behavior, which makes the dynamic strange. He actually has a girlfriend, but still spends a lot of time with her. He is also a friend of mine, and she told me she had a crush on him and that he will always have special place in her heart.

There’s also her close friend MM (female) and MM’s brother, who are often around, and MM is trying to set them up (I think). A lot of time is spent in mixed groups at someone’s apartment or after uni. Rarely truly one-on-one unless I explicitly initiate it.

We’ve had multiple long hangouts, including proper one-on-one time. Once I told her to be ready at a certain time, picked her up, didn’t explain the plan, and we ended up shopping for a friend’s birthday and having coffee. She paid for tea and even my parking that day. We’ve hugged many times over these months, touched casually, laughed a lot. She’s warm in person: sits close, touches my arm or leg, laughs at my jokes, sometimes seeks me out in group conversations.

At the same time, she’s inconsistent. She’ll (rarely) ignore messages for hours or a whole day, while replying to other guys. She sends photos, songs, inside jokes sometimes to me, sometimes clearly to others as well. She almost never compliments my looks. When I pull back, she reappears. When I’m available, she becomes distant.

>>33992293
She flirted, but never committed to anything clear. She told me I am like her father (values and character wise), but she doesn't love her father?

Recently things intensified emotionally. She’s dealing with medical issues and an upcoming surgery, and she’s been more vulnerable, on hormone therapy, more emotional. We talked late into the night via VC once about fears, death, surgery, family. She asked what would I do if she died, I responded with jokes.
There was closeness, but still no real escalation.

Often, a third person (usually H) or a group is present, which blocks any natural progression.

I never explicitly told her I had feelings for her. Part of that was because of the group dynamic we share friends and uni environment and part because her behavior never felt safe enough for that step. Over time, I realized I was investing emotionally while staying in a gray zone where she gets connection and attention without choosing.

In the last weeks I started pulling away. I respond less, don’t chase, skip group hangouts if I feel it will hurt me afterward. Weirdly, when I do that, she reaches out more asks where I am, uses nicknames, sends selfies or flirty stickers but still without clear intent.

At this point, I feel drained. I like her, I enjoy time with her, but the dynamic costs me more than it gives. It feels like I’m stuck between friend and something more, while she keeps several emotional connections open and avoids choosing. So I’m trying to step back, protect myself, and not make decisions from emotion anymore.

About me - I am fat as fuck (lost 100 lbs and currently at 34% bodyfat) and inexperienced with women. She is a beautiful mid at best, but she actually gave a fuck about me when I was ~450lbs. Recently I've been receiving more attention from women I am tall, do sports, have friends and this is Eastern Europe so pretty boys aren't everything.

I want to get with this girl, I can see our future together. What to do?

>>33992054
Like I said, I took anything besides a yes as a rejection. It makes it as simple as black and white.
>>33992243
I struggle with making connections via online dating. I've worked with her for a fair bit of time now, and it finally just clicked for me.

>>33992309
>I struggle with making connections via online dating. I've worked with her for a fair bit of time now, and it finally just clicked for me.

Yeah, I get it. Same here. I just don't translate well to app dating. Never developed those skills, I'm not a zoomer, etc. All the same, the pain of a falling out between two people who have to see each other every day is infinitely worse than whatever good may have come before.

>>33992293
>>33992298
Stop being retarded and ask her out on a proper date.

This goes for a lot of you fucks in this thread, you sit in this pool of ambiguity and nice guy bullshit when if you really wanted to know how she felt about you, you'd shoot your shot and see what she has to say. You're here hoping you'll get the answer you seek but the only one who has it is her.

You want us to reassure you that you have this in the bag because you don't want to face rejection. That's understandable, but not how you're gonna get what you're looking for.

>>33992417

You're right G, but she has tumor-removing surgery in 10 days and I have bodyfat of 34%. To add cherry on top my group dynamic may be irreversibly damaged.

You can see where my lack of confidence is coming from?

>>33992417
>This goes for a lot of you fucks in this thread, you sit in this pool of ambiguity and nice guy bullshit when if you really wanted to know how she felt about you, you'd shoot your shot and see what she has to say.

On this topic, how do you feel about hitting up someone who things have fallen off with? Is it ever okay to be like, "Hey, I'm not sure what happened with us, but been thinking about you and if you wanna get together and catch up sometime, hope you'll hit me up."

Does that ever work? Or is that just picking at something better left alone?

Reminder if you're under 6'0 in a 6'0 average country then its literally over

Reminder 2. You dont hate shallow western whores enough

>>33992417
Do you just ask "Do you want to do a date on X day or something?"

>>33992503
Normalize beating women again.

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I'm not sure I can know a decent girl, too many whores out there. Nothing ever happens

>>33992583
If they're whores, then how is nothing happening?

>>33992601
Nothing happens when it come to having a decent one

>>33992601
>whores for the 10% of men

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Is 28 too late to do skits with my gf

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>>33986089
Any tips on making friends? I'm probably autistic and stuck in my own world most of the time so it's hard to pretend like I care about other people. I find them rather boring.

>>33990362
I think that's honestly pretty good for a pose and everything! I might close one more button on the shirt, but that's just me. The background's nicely blurred so you get the subject separation – IMO, on the scale of "I took this specifically for a profile" to "Here's a bunch of snapshots I had lying around", it's better to err on the side of the former. You don't want a ton of distractions in your pictures (which happens when everything, from the subject to the background, is in perfect focus), but you also don't want them in front of a blank white wall.
In terms of constructive criticism, it's generally better to have pictures taken from further away with zoom than from close-up with wide-angle. The lines of the buildings in back of you are curving oddly, which adds a bit of uncanniness. This is common in phone cameras.
Next time, you could ask your friend to step back and take the photo on 2x zoom; that's the shorthand I use for my non-camera-savvy friends to get the picture. In photographer's terms this would be "using a longer focal length."

>>33992901
Cheers, I wasn't expecting a response to this. I see what you mean about the weirdly curving backward. And like >>33991105 said, it's not the most interesting location.

Tbh it's a bit intimidating seeing all these pics of girls vacationing in Cancun or getting lit at the club. I just haven't had those experiences. My friends and I just hang out at each other's places, or get breakfast food at chintzy diners. So I'm not too sure how to convey myself in a more interesting light, without being inauthentic.

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>>33992990
>vacationing in Cancun
You honestly don't need this. Sure, it shows off wealth, but on some level that's kind of a crutch for not showing off "you" – they're basically relying on the background of their pics to do the heavy lifting instead of how they actually look or their authentic interests.
As for ideas, as soon as you mentioned diners, this idea for a photo popped into my head – you look thin, so you probably have a good jawline, and a side profile could show that off well. I couldn't find anything that reflected my vision online so I generated this via AI, but I think you could probably get a photo like this and it'd do well.

>>33993078
Forgot to mention though, you have to look happier than this. This fellow looks depressed. The pose and angle, though, would be very nice in about any diner.

>>33993078
>>33993086
That's a pretty good idea. And since I'd be in my element, I would probably be more relaxed in front of the camera. I am indeed quite thin. Between that and my style, sometimes I worry that reads too effeminate or gay. I don't think I come across that way IRL, but it's hard to project character thru a single pic, as I'm sure you know better than I.

>>33990088
>NAWALT!
Cope
Yes, AWALT
>Guys trying to slide in DMs really aren’t competition.
Only takes one

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>grooming yourself for dating apps
Enjoy your countless single mothers and obese whores i guess

>>33993259
>cope
Nope, truth
>only takes one
Generally has to be someone overwhelmingly interesting which is exceptionally rare not to mention she will forget about a disembodied profile the moment a guy is standing before her in real life

Does race matter if I'm a mulatto man

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How do I stop being a coward? I've been going out with a girl quite often but all I've managed to do is kiss her on the cheek. She let me do it but I've just been hesitant to go for the lips or ask her to be my girlfriend. I'm actually afraid I've made things awkward, I haven't messaged her but she has me

>>33993387
>Nope, truth
>she will forget about a disembodied profile the moment a guy is standing before her in real life
You honestly have no clue about women. Shut the fuck up you useless beta simp.

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I've increased the amount of held eye contact with this girl I have a slight crush on, and I noticed she's been matching it, I even "lose" occasionally (which isn't a bad thing, you don't want to bore a hole into someone's soul)

This mean anything?

Became really good friends with a girl at work and I started trying to flirt in person and on text and she eventually just ghosted me on text and we immediately started ignoring each other and just walking in opposite directions when we saw each other things like that. It's been 5 months since we talked and the other day we accidently ran into each other and we both laughed and smiled and I was considering just saying "what the fuck are we doing let's just be friends again". I know this isn't a how to get friends general but should I try to be her friend again. She was really interesting fun person and I enjoyed talking to her but also I don't want to be a pussy

>>33992293
>>33992298
>>33992442
She's not thinking about a boyfriend rn mate. She's scared about the surgery and reaching out to her friends for support. Instead you joke about her dying and pull back on contact. How do you think that makes her feel?

>>33993078
did you also write this post with ai

>>33993629
I actually get girls unlike your virgin ass so sit down and listen you clueless mongrel.

>>33992211
i mean it's a pretty common thing to not feel natural in front of a camera. i'd actually say it's better to ignore how "natural" you do or don't feel and focus more on the quality of the context in which each picture places you. mirror selfie = loser. out at a cool place where there might be people = has a social life. and you can also fix this with volume of pics. just choose the most natural looking ones. i already feel like this is me explaining something ridiculously simple to you but since you mentioned it in your OP, fine. i know i'm being extra salty, but do i really have to explain somethign so simple as "volume of pics, then select the best ones"? that's handholding. but at least the social context advice here is something worth your interaction with me
>>33992838
yeah just start talking to everyone like you already know them, and you'll find some people just naturally vibe with you. it's a weird effect. assume the friendship and begin from there. won't always work but the people you vibe with will be like "oh, a friendly dude. cool"

>>33990362
tattoos, gothy vibe, low body fat, a lot to like about this picture. i do agree it's too posed too. ideally you should look like you took one of the candid pics your friend took at some social gathering, those get you the best results. but there's plenty to be positive about in this pic

>>33986089
who is this bimbo?

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>STILL shilling fucking dating apps in the relationships general

>>33992838
Realize you're not as interesting as you think. Everyone has a rich and complex inner world that you'll never fully grasp. Make getting to know people your special interest

This is all just so brutal

>work security shift
>relief comes in, female coworker I've had passing conversations with
>Greet her as she comes in, asks how are you
>I say good, happy to see you (because she was my relief and I get to go home)
>I smile like a jackass, so does she but looks away at the same time
>Don't even like her like that or feel any type of way, but I don't talk to many women at work so it looks weird
Make fun of me

>>33994142
sho nuff

>>33994174
You got dat right my nigga

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>meet cute girl on Hinge as I'm about to delete it
>go on dates for a month and a half
>she acts like she likes me a lot calls me pet names
>discuss being in a relationship
>she's ecstatic about it and gives me a bunch of cheek kisses
>2 months later she says she thought she would have felt a connection by now
>tells me she likes me as a friend
It's been over 6 months and I'm still not over this. What the fuck was that.

>>33994202
Question - did you actually attempt to make a move on her or fuck her at any point or did you just go on a bunch of dates? Because if not then that's your problem right there.

>>33994236
You're a moron

>>33994258
That's not an answer to my question, stupid. I'm gonna take that as a no.

>>33986089
How to meet women---Staple a hundred dollar bill to your forehead.

Love a woman willing to be your friend, not try to love "good" women. "Good" women unfortunately are too clean for us.

>>33994357
I think you can get status and learn basic social skills in time. I think you are quite young but am not sure.

>>33994357
I get what you’re saying, but calling them ‘too clean for us’ is just you debuffing yourself for no reason.

>>33994394
No, they're too good anon. I belong where trash is.

>>33994407
Please love yourself enough to not say that.

>>33992298
Idk G, I am obviously socially inept. Plus she has bunch of other (male) friends. I am the guy who was from the start negative towards her (to the point she multiple times asked:"Why do you hate me?"
But she obviously mellowed my heart.

Also last time she invited me to hang out H was there and at some point I asked if we are going to talk about her doctor's visit or going to pretend it didn't happen she said:"H you tell him, I am tired of talking about this."

>>33994017
They work

>>33994527
>>33993795

Meant to reply to you

>>33992298
I don’t think pulling away right now is the best move. Since this could be the last time you see her (she has a tumor right?), so give her the warmth she needs in this moment. Cheer her up and leave her with good feelings. Then, once she’s recovered, that’s when you ease off and pull back.

>>33992217
go out on a date and see if you like her. simple

>>33992293
>We’ve hugged many times over these months, touched casually, laughed a lot
Just to be clear: this doesn't mean anything. Not a bad thing. But don't count it in your favor.
>She almost never compliments my looks.
It's not a woman's job to initiate anything. Don't expect that.
> When I pull back, she reappears. When I’m available, she becomes distant.
So, normal female behavior? Okay. What you need to do is stop acting like a friend and act like someone who wants to date her. You need to explicitly ask for a date. You need to reduce idle talk which doesn't have a specific goal (like meeting up with her one on one or getting a date, etc). You reduce the idle pointless talk because she can do that with her friends. YOU want to be her boyfriend, so you must act accordingly. This doesn't mean *don't* talk to her. This means if the conversation has no point, you need to be willing to go "hey, I've got something to handle. I can tell you all about it in person at x". You need to pull away a bit and not be too available. It's best if you actually have shit to do, but either way this still needs to be done.
>>33992442
>To add cherry on top my group dynamic may be irreversibly damaged.
No it won't. Ask her out. If she says yes, cool. If not, don't be a fucktard weirdo and act as you did before. Would you rather go to sleep rejected, but knowing the answer or a bitch with his dick in his hand?
>>33992298
You're massively overthinking. Just ask her out.
>I never explicitly told her I had feelings for her.
DO NOT EVER DO THIS. THAT is the type of shit that irreversibly fucks things up. Asking out for a date and her not feeling it is one thing. Pouring your heart out in some sort of rambling speech is how you massively fuck up if she doesn't 100% feel the same way. Hell, even if she likes you, that's way too much energy.

>>33994575
>>33992298
>Part of that was because of the group dynamic we share friends and uni environment and part because her behavior never felt safe enough for that step.
Again, it's not a woman's job to make you feel save or approach you. It's YOUR job to state your intentions and give her something to respond to. You've done nothing and should expect nothing like that from her.
>She flirted, but never committed to anything clear. She told me I am like her father (values and character wise), but she doesn't love her father?
Flirted how? A lot of dudes massively overestimate this. And the father thing...you haven't been paying enough attention to women. Even when they "hate" their father, they usually still end up with a guy like him. Almost like trying for a redo or something.
>At this point, I feel drained.
Yes, because you keep projecting all this hypothetical bullshit instead of doing something. It's like seeing a girl at the club, spending 20 minutes working in your head on what to say, then once you're "ready" she's walking out the door. YOU are draining yourself by not doing a damn thing here. You could've had your answer months ago. This isn't her fault btw. It's all you.
>It feels like I’m stuck between friend and something more, while she keeps several emotional connections open and avoids choosing.
You haven't ONCE given her the opportunity to choose. All of this. Literally. All of it is in your head. She has zero idea that 90% of this is even happening. I need you to understand that anon. She. Has. No. Fucking. Idea. Because. You're. Too. Scared. To. Say. Shit. About. It.
>I want to get with this girl, I can see our future together. What to do?
Ask her the fuck out. Don't do some massive heart to heart speech. Keep it cool and short, like it's no big deal. Fuck the future together. You don't even know if this chick likes you. Focus on the NOW and what's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. Not some hypothetical bullshit.

>>33993755
What do you want? If you want to be her friend, do that and stop overthinking it. If you want to ask her out, do that, and stop overthinking it. Just do fucking something.

>>33994167
What was the point of this? You spoke to a vagina-haver. Cool story bro. What do you need hep with?

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>>33986089
>last year get cucked out of my crush in class
>tfw now dicking a girl that is this blonde and cute with white dick
True rags to riches story. Hinge is the shit man.

It's fun when you finally get past being a loser and make the jump to actually desirable ones too

>>33994682
you’re fucking a tranny?

>>33994685
No, that pussy was extremely tight and shallow even though she 5'10. It was hot

>>33994575
>>33994585

I know it means nothing, if it meant something I would have no doubts.

But when we were 1 on 1 she hesitated to touch me, literally went for it multiple times but stopped.

So what's my play here? She is on progesterone pills next 10 days, then goes away for surgery to another city and I won't see her for idk how long after?

So...has anyone tried the tips given to you here? And did they actually work?

>>33994711
I mostly give advice

>>33992460
Unless it was an abusive relationship where she had stockholm syndrome and is a glutton for more punishment, don't think that would work. They might want to reconnect but it's for some other value that you have, not romantic.

>>33994691
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>33994921
I mean does it even matter if they're trans if you like them?

>>33994290
it'd be better if you gave $100 to charity in front of a hot woman as if doing so casually. bragging is the obvious move, it's more attractive if your displays of status and wealth are "incidental" feeling

>>33992503
Show hands you brown turdworlder.

so my penis has slightly above average length but is really thin
how do i cope

>>33987477
Damn product ads in cartoons. Why didn't they advertise dried fish or dried meat or spam? Why did they advertise tobacco that harms sexual health?

>>33994590
I thought I came across weird and am now overly anxious about my standing at work

>>33986322
Yohimbe. Be careful tho

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>>33994921
You're a complete retard if you managed to gather from anything I posted that I fucked a tranny, she was a bio female, and at that, the kind that literally billions of pervert males goon themselves to

>>33995758
Bro stfu.

>>33995539
Learn how to work your hips, whip that thing back and fourth and all around and stretch her like xenomorph or like you're trying to mold silly putty with your cock.
Skill issue bruh.

>>33994682
>>tfw now dicking a girl that is this blonde and cute with white dick
If this is a tranny, you're a faggot. Otherwise you're retarded because you don't know how to communicate your thoughts coherently.
>>33994925
Yes, it makes you gay. This is htgwg, not how to get mentally ill men who think they're women.

>>33996165
Be happy for me, anon. Envy is no way to live.

>>33993733
Nobody?? Was hoping for some insight

>>33996540
Have you spoken to her yet?

>>33996606
We talk every day

>>33996611
Ok next time ask her if she's free to go out with you next weekend.

>>33996624
Does it change anything that we've been friends for awhile? We were acquaintances for about 3 years, but these past 2 we've gotten extremely close, I get your post but I feel like it's framed from the perspective that I don't know this girl all too well yet, when it's the opposite, at this point I know her better than she knows herself

Hinge or Tinder. Which one should I use for the gorillianth time?

>>33996644
not tinder.

>>33996644
Nice digits, but also doesn't matter. There's no such thing as a magically different app when the same pools of people are using them

>>33996693
I agree, but it seemed like more, or at least different, people use Tinder than Hinge, even in a small town like mine. Hinge is definitely more "quality" than Tinder in my experience at least.

Why bother getting a gf when I could just do my own thing and not be annoyed constantly?

what place to meet women during the day?

>>33996777
hell

>>33996643
Yes it was. Maybe you're so deep in the friendzone that she doesn't see you as a "threat" or potential partner anymore that's why she's fine getting so friendly, idk her you do. Breaking that boundary might ruin the friendship but you dont have a choice really, dont become the orbiter. I guess you dont have to ask her out immediately but if you want something more you're gonna have to show her and escalate in any case.

women, for the record,
I'm still hard
thank you for your attention

>>33996777
These days they typically hang out in swamps (clubs), dungeons, ghettos, abortion clinics, some LGBT aesthetic coffee show that always has a sign on it that says "This is a Safe Inclusive space", etc. They also spend a lot of time astral projecting into mens ears to torment them even while they're sleeping, and as the poster below you also mentions, they do also spend a lot of time in the pits of Hell.

>>33996936
>>33996816
both of you sound miserable and I genuinely hope you to find real love one day

>>33991704
Netherlands guy here, dated a Polish girl. She was a total slut for me once I got in, but then I found out she was sexting a bunch of dudes online during the entire 2.5 months we were together and especially every time I left her physically.

I broke up with her

Would I do it again? Yes
But I'd be really careful, in Polish culture it is COMPLETELY normal to be selfish and to lie, it's terrible. Polish will tell you otherwise because they are proud of themselves and they are the best - ofcourse, because they're selfish they say that. What did you expect?

But yes the pussy, face, asshole, bush, small white body, and small 4 pack on her core, are unforgettable

>>33997089
>You're a man and miserable, it must be your fault
Ya ya, heard it all before man. I hope you reenact your birth by shoving your head up a girls vagina, and then it gets stuck there forever, if it isn't already.

>>33994142
this place is generally hell. /adv/ is by far the worst place to get advice from. people come here when they dont know here seeking advice and usually just get insulted by some blackpilled retard. this board is just not healthy.

>>33994705
I can't take you seriously because it's clear that you read and understood absolutely none of what I wrote.
>What's my play here
I answered that so many times it's not funny. If you can't figure it out based on what I wrote, you don't deserve a girlfriend. I literally spoon fed you the answer.

>>33997165
You have people giving these CV guides to find women on FUCKING TINDER IN 2025. where are the standards that "normie" sites don't have?

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what is the success rate like for hooking up with random slores on /soc/

I asked there once in a thread and got banned for 3 days

there is some reddit hookup sub but its all cucks looking for big dicks to fuck their wife or bots

>>33997133
What kind of dates were you going on?

I want to move off the apps but I have no idea how to approach women.

>>33997133
WHat do you know abot French girls/french dating culture?

From girl friends I hear the guys are players. I had a french gf for 3 months, she left me but I was getting the signs. she wasn't super shady, just telling me two different things: I love you but I love my career first.

I tried putting her more in my frame, she fought back and although I tried to negotiate and let things be to see how it goes, she broke up with me a week after leaving my country back to france. I wonder sometimes if she was fucking other guys or not. One time after some time apart she told me she wanted me to wear a condom because she thinks I gave her something, she always accused me of being a manwhore and having an STD. we fucked on the first date, idk who she thought SHE was.
I guess I should've known, in some ways she reminded me of my puerto rican gf, but this time around I was very calm with her and didn't react to her immature shit tests

I met this autistic woman who was homeschooled at a cafe. She's a motormouth and was very nervous and shifty with me but over time, general calmness from me and strong eye contact, she started to chill out, look at me in the eyes more, and I got her number pretty smoothly.
Just get out there. My last LTR was a girl who went to SPED and I kind of regret it, as I had a completely normal girl right after and I was still coming off the retard residuals.

>>33998060
How would you usually approach women?

>>33998060
as a former autist i learned this actually isn't true. the "i don't know what to do" thing is really just a form of perfectionism and having high sensitivity to failure and criticism. if you are absolutely careless and reckless you will become a motormouth with instincts you can't believe. so the question isn't "what do i do" but rather "how do i access that state"

Is there any point to using dating apps if you're not carpet bombing likes and hoping that any one who matches with you might be worth talking to?

>>33998385
do you have great pics? if not it's gonna be a bad time

>>33998394
NTA
what are great pics, nnot reddit/women suggested pics

I have 1 group pic where im standing next to my young big titty roommate and my pecs are being shown off, 1 pic with a suit on and smiling, 2 pics of my back, candid with my arms wide open at a beach and 1 close up selfie.

I wrote about this a few weeks back but I still got doubts
There's this chick that wants to cheat on her bf with me and I don't know if I should go through with it
I'm single currently so I only want her when I'm horny, we're sharing pics and last time we saw each other I felt her up a bit. After I feel like an asshole because I know it ain't right to do this and I think I should stop this, but then I get horny again and we start chatting
We haven't done anything "too serious" yet so I'm thinking that if I wanna stop I should do it now or just commit
What do you guys think about cheating and doing an evil deed?

>>33998591
Do it but tell the boyfriend afterwards

>>33998394
Honestly not really. I'm doing the best with what I have but I maybe have 20 usable photos of me and that's after asking everyone I know to send me any photos they have of me that would look good on a dating profile. For what its worth I don't think it's a problem of me just being outright unattractive. At the very least women around me have told me directly or my friends that they think I'm good looking, so I've convinced myself that I fall into the camp of guys who look better in person than on a dating app.

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>>33998446
You wanna strive to look like the guy on the left.
>Wear casual clothes, it makes you look cool and relaxed.
>Grow your hair out and if you dont have hair, get a toupee.
>give yourself desireable hunter eyes by pulling your eyes like an Asian several hours a day. Bonus points if you repeatedly yell "ching chong nip nong" while doing this, as it strengthens your vocal cords and works your jaw muscles.
>make sure to be the lowest weight you can be to highlight your facial features
>take cold showers every morning, applying tactical soap with added pheromones to make you alluring to women
>as youre drying yourself off after your cold shower, look into the mirror and say "I am Adônis" once for however many years old you are (i.e. 50x if youre 50 yrs)

Thank me now.

>>33998608
Kek, absolutely devilish
I have thought about telling him, she's told me she's done it before, but I don't know him well enough to care and now she's got dirt on me that could be used to hurt my ex, so I don't think I'll do that

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I might actually be too intelligent to get a gf. I know I can get one if I put some effort into it but I want a hot gf when I look pretty average myself and I know it's going to be an uphill battle keeping her around with my looks. I could get someone less good looking but then I won't be happy knowing I had to settle and neither would my gf if I'm honest about it. The only winning move is not to play. I'm not whining or complaining. It is just what it is.

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>>33998618
>i.e. 50x if youre 50 yrs

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>>33998618
No you wanna be Gordon Freeman.

How do I handle what I can only describe as a level of shyness and i guess insecurity that results in a paralyzing fear of talking to women I find attractive unless I'm either 100% sure nothing will happen (i.e. they're already taken, etc) or I'm so inebriated that I don't care, and even in those cases I can only manage polite conversation?

I know it's silly and that rejection is allegedly not that bad but I feel like any time I even think of putting myself out there my mind explodes with a million reasons that it's a bad idea, both real and imagined. My mind always defaults to a worst case scenario of things that would happen if I try and approach (i.e. public humiliation, cancellation, becoming someone's viral Tiktok/Instagram post, and so on)

I tend to be defeatist at every level, making up future scenarios (she'd probably cheat, she's probably not looking for commitment, I'm not X enough, etc.) and basically stop myself before I even think of starting, and I'm unsure of how to not do that.

This only ever comes up in this specific setting as well, I never have this issue just talking to regular people, but the instant my mind even thinks that a situation has romantic potential it goes on full lockdown.

It's so frustrating because I'm sure there's a million different reasons for this and I have no idea where to start, and half the time it feels like such a daunting thing that I'd rather ignore it entirely

>>33996891
I'll play it safe, no need to ruin anything over nothing

>>33998591
If it's not you, it's going to be somebody else. Do it, but only if you're sure you can handle it emotionally and she's discreet about it. You're already sharing pics and you've felt he up

>>33998446
>what are great pics, nnot reddit/women suggested pics
The ones where you're attractive. Forget pictures with friends, dogs, skydiving, climbing Everest, whatever it's all about how good looking you are and photos are only supposed to highlight that

>>33999039
>I'm sure there's a million different reasons for this
Nope! Just one; you're afraid of rejection. It's extremely common and paralyzing.

You really just need to desensitize yourself and stop thinking that someone not wanting to sleep/date you is a value judgment.

>>33999589
I more meant there are a million reasons for the fear of rejection.
>Desensitize yourself
If "just go do it" worked for me, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

>>33989598
You have to move to a country where it's legal to be a normal man

>>33986089
There's a chick I really like but don't know personally, only saw her in town a few times and on friend's IG
She seems to travel semi frequently and isn't broke, not loaded either, really pretty, doesn't wear makeup or whore outfits, doesn't post provocative stuff or rant about muh whamens issues etc, would like to get to know her.
We're about the same age (late 20s) and I'm an average guy, relatively good looking and have zero issues talking to women when they're outgoing and mid, goofy chicks always liked me.
I'd really like to know what works on women like her. What sort of shit are they into, what should I avoid doing?

>>34000033
Digits might help me, I guess I should add that I don't really use socials and wouldn't bother messaging women there because it's really dumb to expect any results while being in a sea of simps saying hi from across the screen so I'm basically stuck with figuring out how to come across her in the first place since we got zero mutual friends
I hope someone might offer advice and general ideas and that this isn't considered yet another retarded incel post

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There's this cute chubby girl at the Chipotle I usually go to that I have a crush on. If you're a burger you would know how Chipotle is, always busy with little to no downtime and your fellow coworkers are always earshot.
Anyway, I don't know this girl at all but I wanna ask her out. How can I play this off /htgwg/?

>>34000066
Not a burger but general stuff applies here, to avoid rejection and embarrassment first be friendly with her and talk every now and then until she trusts you enough so when you ask her to hang out you're not just another retard doing muh cold approaches

>>34000075
And yeah basically every time you're trying to ask out a chick who's a clerk, cashier, or any kind of drone wagie, the best approach is to steer the convo in the way of her talking about how much she hates her job so you can present yourself as a nice break from that usual shit

>>34000075
>>34000081
Oh. Because I was thinking of just slipping my number in a dollar bill or whatever when paying for my food. She's usually manning the cash register.

>>33986089
Tell me if I should first find a job and then get to know a girl, or if I can get to know a girl first, she will be disappointed that I am not a money bag sponsor, will leave me, and I will sit grieving and maybe even get depression illness. What is the best thing to do? If I'm not working, then I have more energy and time to communicate with a girl.

>>34000092
Yeah there's nothing saying you can't do that but look at it realistically and tell me what are your chances of succeeding? Even if she likes you a lot it might come off as weird to her for whatever reason.
Don't listen to the muh numbers game PUAtards, dating and meeting chicks is about increasing your chances of succeeding with a girl, otherwise you'll be like a Facebook Pajeet

>>34000033
>>34000058
Find out where she usually hangs out at?
Befriend her friends? Pray to God? I'm really running out of ideas here

Let me tell you all the most powerful to make good decisions, follow your heart in every decision you make. The heart is where you'll find the most compassion and empathy in being human. You can not beat that. The gut you can beat and the mind can be fucked up from mental illness, but unless you are a heartless psychopath (which I'm 99.9% sure you aren't) then this won't be an issue.

Idk if this is the right place for this but I fucked up. I met a woman I really jived with but ignored the red flags. Older than me by almost 10 years, dyed hair, tattoos, piercings, bad relationship with her father etc. Absolute 10/10 though.

She came on to me and the chemistry was insane. I had the craziest sex of my life with her. She was into BDSM and even though I had never done stuff like that before I discovered I loved being a dom and I got rough with her and made her cum 5 times when we fucked. After that though the vibe shifted immensely. She was still sending me good morning texts and memes every day but I could feel her pulling away. A little while later she just says “I met someone else, bye” and blocks me. Idk if there’s anything I could have done differently but I hadn’t connected with someone like that since I was in college and I feel like I fucked up maintaining the connection. It didn’t help that we both got really sick and couldn’t see each other for a while.

For a brief moment I felt extremely desired and now it’s gone. I know the solution is to accept that it’s over and move on and keep trying to meet people but I’m just tired of it at the moment. At least I discovered that I like being a dom. Does anyone have advice for meeting really kinky people?

>>33987079
This is terrible advice, dating apps work perfectly fine. The idea that you can't meet quality women on them is outdated. Most women are on the apps at this point especially if they're in their late 20's/early 30's. I've met some very quality women on there.

>>33989977
listen to this anon, this is the best advice in the thread. Thank you for sharing

As for my experience - I have a terrible profile (first pic is a mirror selfie where I'm flexing in a tank top) and I still get matches and went on dates with attractive women. I'd certainly do better with better pics but I've gone on dates with lawyers and other professionals (I'm a software developer).

>>34000092
Most likely she doesn't want you. Just ask her out and be prepared to face whatever consequences may come of it. Doing this "warm approach" bullshit will only delay the inevitable. If she is genuinely attracted to you, it won't matter how you ask her out.

>>34000862
Bitches can be unpredictable to themselves let alone other people that's nothing new
But anyway after hardcore fucking or anything involving bdsm you usually need to cuddle more and be lovey dovey than usual, else she's gonna feel like shit no matter how desensitized she's become to sex and whorishness.
This applies to women in general and I know it's not talked about as much, but try not to fall asleep immediately or get up to take a piss and watch a game after you're done with her, it kills the mood and makes them feel used but in a bad way

Be happy with a woman being serious, and make the most out of it. Maybe she is just a realistic woman, as in someone who likes to go to work not have fun.

Where do you find women that like staying in, indoor hobbies?

>>34001279
Through friends or in school or work or in the gym or on dating apps.

>>34001117
That’s understandable. I was really lovey dovey with her after and we were cuddling and making out a lot. She was saying things like “I’m really glad I met you” and “I can’t wait to do this again.” It was a new experience for me. I’d never fucked a woman that attractive before and I’d never been rough with a woman in bed before.

It did awaken me to that side of me though. How do you go about meeting people that kinky, do you just date as usual and then let them know that you’re into that kind of thing or is there a different approach? After our first date this girl was the one who told me straight up that she wanted me to dom her so she wasn’t subtle at all.

There's this thot at my gym with a huge ass, can't tell if it's the yoga pants or not. I mean the biggest dumper in the gym
We keep eye fucking or so I feel. Last time I literally caught her turning and looking at me. I'd go speak to her if I wasnt such a incel

Is there a guide or smthing like that showing places (coffee shop, library, museum, etc.) and the type of girl you're likely to meet in them (age range, personality, introverted or extroverted, etc.)?

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lads is this a rare instance where double texting is okay? I got her number from hinge last week (the clown stuff is referencing previous convo about her clown costume pic).
she seemed super interested but she didn't reply at all to my voice message the day before Thanksgiving and I've heard nothing from her since.
the voice message was super normal, just responded to her question and asked her more about her background.

>>34001597
In a coffeeshop you will find girls that like coffee
In a library you will find girls that like books
In a museum you will find girls that like museums

>>34001597
They all want Chad. Chads are born, not made. You're not Chad, judging by the fact you're here. Ergo, they don't want you. You were born and it was over.

>>34001598
Jfc dude what am I reading.. she allowed you more strikes than the MLB. Id he shocked if youre still in.

If you lost this one, and I could say just one thing (and I can say a lot): dont mention bionicles until AFTER you've boned minimum. Ideally until you've been dating awhile. Unless you met at a bionicle convention then sure, lead with that.

>>34001598
Its over, bro. She found something better. Delete her contact and move on.

>>34001666
>girls only want Chad's

Normally Id have to argue thats not true but not today because you only need to look a mere 2 posts up to see the level of autism that can still hold the attention of a woman.. >>34001598


I feel he did ultimately fuck it up, but he was still alive after telling her she cant have sex with him in front of his bionicles...

If you can't get a woman, it isnt because youre not chad. Thats a cope. Its because theres something seriously wrong with you. Worse than this guy

>>34001668
I was joking, I don't even own bionicles or minecraft socks and I'm pretty sure she realized that given the amount of sarcasm in our exchange on hinge
also she was responding like normal until thanksgiving came along so I have a hard time believing it was that, also it wasn't until I turned it into a NORMAL convo that she stopped seeming interested

>>34001694
Some guy asked her out after 2 days of banter and you're having a conversation about bionicles and minecraft for the past 2 weeks.

>>34001728
one week, also that was banter
should I ask her out or it's dead? I wouldn't consider double texting but it was a holiday weekend so who knows what she had going on

Do people actually ask people to be their girlfriend/boyfriend outright? Or does ask out mean on a date?

>>34001740
no, that's seen as cringe

>>34001744
What are you supposed to do then?

>>34001753
just go out casually and let the girl do the "so what are we" conversation if she really wants you

>>34001736
In 2 weeks write her >hello is this thing still on? [mic emoji]
If she says hi or yes haha you invite her to get some drinks next weekend

>>34001783
two weeks from her disappearing?
thanks for the actual advice instead of giving me shit for being autistic

>>34001736
>I wouldn't consider double texting
Double texting is perfectly fine in this context, I've double-texted multiple girls on Hinge before and gotten dates because of that. Women get overwhelmed or don't check their apps often or just forget.

Remember, it's not really personal when you're just talking on the dating app, and double-texting here is fine. It's after the first date that you shouldn't have to double-text because now that she's met you it's personal

Are the apps pointless if you don't put in huge effort?

>>34001813
The amount of effort you'll need to put in to get results is directly related to how good looking you are. I have very low effort pictures like a mirror-selfie as my main one and some gym selfies but I look good enough to get action on the app.

I also have friends who frankly aren't as attractive as me but get more dates because they took high quality pictures and actually spent a lot of time polishing things. I would definitely say the average looking guy can have a decent time on the apps if they put in effort.

The most exhausting part is talking with your matches. It's generally some variation of the same conversation over and over and over again, and some of the convos don't go anywhere so you never know if you're wasting your effort or not. But it's worth it for the women I've met.

>>34001791
Rather from your last message I suppose. It doesn't matter exactly just some time to make it seem you're not desperate because you do seem desperate. You could wait a whole month too if you want to let your autism fade out of her memory.
The other guy said you can straight up text her right now I dont particularly disagree either. All those dating "rules" dont really matter if she thinks you're attractive.

>>34001793
I did get her number though and the interaction that she dropped off from was through that, still fine?
>>34001896
> All those dating "rules" dont really matter if she thinks you're attractive.
I have 8/10 face and am jacked so maybe that's why I got away with being autistic so far, I thought she was into the autistic banter though

>>34001896
in what way in my interactions with her seem desperate? obviously I'm coming off as desperate to you guys cuz I'm posting about it in the first place to a bunch of randoms, but to her how so?

>>34001872
How good looking are you and how many matches and success after matches do you get?

>>33986089
>I have been banned from all apps because they all think my face couldn’t possibly belong to a human. They wanted my drivers license to appeal, I’m not doing that.
>I can’t seem to get over the one girlfriend I had in my entire life. It’s a long story but the gist is she was moving and never let me hold her hand after seven months, so I stopped being her simp. It’s been two years and I still wonder if a sexless and one sided relationship would’ve been better.
>I often day dream about how even if I did get a girl, she would question me on something I really don’t have a socially acceptable answer for. So I’d either need to lie or tell the truth, but both would probably end the relationship.
>girls I’ve approached in the pass have often screamed when I said hi.
>I’ve been going to concerts and parties to make friends. Some people have recognized me and talked to me, but I always end up butting in too much and killing the vibe.
I feel like I can’t socialize at all anymore. I feel cursed. I barely have a desire to go out beyond fresh air.
The whole idea of getting a new girl to talk to me seems to far gone to even imagine happening.

How do I convince myself to try again?
I want to, but it feels like I need to completely wipe my memory to do it.

>>34001916
>>34001922
Yeah I mean to us. To her if you double text 1 or 2 days after she ignored you that's the whole thing with double texting.
Anyways I dont like the way you try to fire off joke after joke, it feels forced/fake/cringe especially after you already got her number. After she liked your im just flirting message you should have just asked her out there's 0% chance she would have said no after giving out her number already.

I'm pretty decent looking, 6'3" tall and gym maxed so in really good shape (wide shoulders and lean, just shy of abs).

I want to start meeting women but dont really have any experience with it and don't know what to do. Have a few close friends but other than that my social life is pretty non existent other than gym and work. Ive never really had a gf before though I did have a fwb I met at work a couple years ago however no longer in contact.

So anyway I feel like both places but especially the gym I find girls miring but I really don't know what moves to make and don't wanna shit where I sleep with it either. At work a couple of girls hit me with I bet you get so many girls line but wasn't interested in her particularly. In the gym I see the same people daily so could start building up some convos but really don't know where or how to start without making it awkward and without making the intentions obvious.

Ultimately I feel like I have no problems talking to girls but it's either super forward or way too passive where I kinda friendzone myself and would like to learn how to change that.

>>34001983
>After she liked your im just flirting message you should have just asked her out there's 0% chance she would have said no after giving out her number already.
that was my instinct but my gigachad friend told me to get to know her a little better, now I feel dumb

>>34001983
anyway I just texted her "don't be shy", wait and see now

How do I go from being a shy, anxious NEET with no social connections and being unable to go out or talk to anyone, to getting women?
I know that I'm not very ugly because there was a brief period I had a girl into me.

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>>34001916
>I did get her number though and the interaction that she dropped off from was through that, still fine?
Yes it's fine to double text as long as it's not too soon, e.g within the same day or few days. And yes it's still fine with her phone number; if she hasn't met you in person yet then you're not losing any dignity or respect with a double text.

>>34001923
I look like a mix of Henry Cavill and Roger Federer; namely I have Henry Cavill's jawline, cheekbones and overall strong masculine facial features, but with Roger Federer's big nose. I'm sure my nose brings me down a notch or two (a bully in middle school once made fun of me for it) but enough people have told me I'm handsome that I believe it. I'm also fairly muscular.

My match rate is low meaning only a small percent of women match me back after I've liked them, but I also only send likes to only attractive women. When I accidentally send likes to average looking women they are usually pretty eager to talk with me but I unmatch them after.

In 6 weeks of use I got about 44 matches? Which turned into 7 dates. I lost interest in 3 of them, 1 lost interest in me, 2 I'm hooking up with casually, and 1 of them I almost had a serious relationship with but we realized our values don't align so we ended it. I still miss her bros, I liked her so much... She's smart, pretty, a lawyer making good money, funny, energetic... Oh god I miss her

>>34002142
And if I remember correctly, this girl said I was a 7/10. But she liked be so obviously biased. I was also pretty fit and I'm not now.

>>34002164
why does the importance of double texting change once you meet in person vs just online?
anyway thanks, we'll see if she gets back tomorrow. if not that would suck though, I mog her by like 2-3 points
this kinda shit happens all the time to me though. I've gotten over 100 matches in the two months I've been on hinge but always get disqualified somehow by the girls I actually end up asking out (not many as I find most extremely boring). why do I keep having problems with girls that I mog the shit out of and who would be eyefucking me if they randomly saw me irl?

>>34002257
>I've gotten over 100 matches in the two months I've been on hinge
Are you a 9/10 or is hinge somehow special?

>>34002257
>why does the importance of double texting change once you meet in person vs just online?
Before you've met, you're just 5 pictures and 3 prompts to them. They have no emotional connection or investment to you. Women get overwhelmed on dating apps because they get so many likes - I have a very attractive female friend who got over 1000 likes in 24 hours.

Because women have no emotional connection to you yet and they are juggling other conversations, it's very understandable that they'll forget to message you back, even if they're interested.

Once you've met in person though you've had a chance to make a real impact on them and if they like you they shouldn't need any reminders. Of my 7 dates, I had to double-text like 3 of them to get the date set up, but after the first date all of the women except for 1 were really excited about me, and I didn't need to double-text them again because they were on top of things. If they're not responding to you within 24 hours at this point, they're just not that into you and nothing will change that

>>34002302
I'd rate myself an 8/10 at least, 5'8'', born quite handsome, spend 5 days/week in the gym so am jacked, speak 4 languages. I'm autistic though. also I live in a major city.
I'd say hinge is way better than the rest if you're looking for something more serious.

>>34002395
thanks bro, the girl I was fussing over just got back, and with quite a bit to say actually. I'll leave responding for tomorrow though.
I'm assuming at this point I should keep it short and push for meeting irl?

>>34002500
Nice!

My biggest early mistake on Hinge was trying to have too much conversation. I'd ask too many questions or give them too much to respond too and they'd get overwhelmed, procrastinate responding, then forget. Some of those same matches I'd hit up and just ask out and they were down.

So yeah, just ask her out now. Going forward on Hinge, I'd say 2-4 back-and-forths is all you need before you ask them out. I'm honestly surprised at how fast most women are willing to meet. The lawyer girl who I really liked actually cut straight to the chase in our convo and said "when/where do you want to meet" and that was that.

>>34002302
>Are you a 9/10 or is hinge somehow special?
Hinge is by far the best dating app for serious relationships. If a woman is going to get on dating apps, it's almost guaranteed she'll get on Hinge.

It's also the only dating app I know of where average women aren't necessarily inundated with likes, probably because Hinge really limits likes which forces people to be more realistic and choosy with who they send likes to. I was actually surprised to see that some decent looking, average women were having trouble getting likes from men they found attractive.

Women, what do you think of men who wear fur coats? I live in a very cold country!

>>33989442
I've read this post before

>>34001429
Anyone? Is Feeld the only option?

Put some sense into me, you cannot actually get girls of /soc/ right?

>>34003340
a trenchcoat would be better and more appealing to women, but whatever makes you happy

>>34001598
How do I achieve this level of power?

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Should I shave? My mustache can’t grow past this point but I don’t think I look good clean shaven. I try to keep the rest of my beard matched in length to the mustache so I don’t plan on growing out the rest of my beard anytime soon:

>as soon as you stop playing the jester and just start talking like it's a normal convo, they just stop replying
AAAAHHH these fucking bitches, I don't want to play these fucking games, what's wrong with just wanting to get to know each other?

>>34004009
you can!! i met my ex bf on /soc/ but he cheated on me with another /soc/ girl. you can get plenty!!!

>>34004462
yes.
>>34004472
the bitch just wanted attention she never intended to get to know you. another reason you shouldn't be texting for longer than like 3 days before asking her out.

>>34004499
That's seems like a reason girls including you would avoid it

>>34004512
i'm hopeless if i don't have a boyfriend :(( and i don't know how to talk to people irl so /soc/ is all i have, sigh... and i'm sure there are people on there that are like me, so i don't mind getting my heart broken a thousand times for the right person!!

>>34004530
Literally me
Hope you find that anon

>>33986089
>social retardation had me ruin an fwb with a girl i actually got along with because she didn't communicate that it was just fwb, even when i specifically asked
aside from actual fucking mind-reading, how do i avoid this in the future?

>>34004608
What kind of advice do you expect when you didn't explain the situation in the at all. Are you expecting me to mindread?

I want to help a friend get laid, but he looks like Chang from the King of Fighters. How do I go about this?

>>34004917
Is he as muscular or just fat?
The answer is tatoos and money.

>>34004472
why are you talking like a normal convo? Women, especially attractive ones, get tons and tons of convo. Any question you can think of they have already been asked like a 100 times. It is literally a chore for women to respond to convos.

You should be asking her out after your banter. If she ghosts you after you ask her out, you can re-initiate later, but aim to ask women out ASAP. Most women want this

How do you get comfortable and experience talking to women, when you need to be comfortable and have experience to talk to women enough to get comfortable and experienced?

>>34005107
You just made that up so you have an excuse not to do it.

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How do I get women to see me as more than entertainment? I get girls by being funny and wild but as soon as they get to know me and realize I'm an actual person with goals a job and a life they always get bored and leave.

>>34005123
Get them in bed first while jestermaxing then let them get to know you after since they're already attached from the sex.

>>34005140
I fucking wish that worked bro.

>>34005173
It does bro. Sex is way more emotional for girls. Like cuddle and kiss her after and shit.

>>34005107
getting on the dating apps and go on dates, even with women you're not interested in.

I've been doing this and I went from being really awkward to now having a very high 1st -> 2nd date conversion ratio. I'm way more sociable, relaxed, and I can strike up conversations with strangers now.

If you're an average looking guy but with a good Hinge profile, you can get dates here or there.

>Scrolling reddit out of boredom
>Age gap advice thread pops up about a 19f wanting to date a 27m
>”Ewww 19 year olds are children to me”
>”Men who date young can’t get women their own age, they’re pedos”
>”I have to hide in my garage when I have young people in my house because we’re at different stages in life and there’s nothing to talk about”
>”Girl that’s a red flag he just wants control over you”
>”Anyone below 25 is a literal child”
Am I wrong for thinking this is some kind of insane pedophilic redditor thing? I know scrolling reddit is bad but is modern dating really this grim in the real world?

>>34005033
yeah, I know all that already. I'm just tired of all this chicanery. I just want to know if these bitches are interesting before I ask them out on a date.

>>34005328
Other women are men's biggest cockblocker

>>34005338
A lot of the comments were from men..

>>34005196
All the women I'm talking about in my post I fucked. Never made a difference for me. Guess I'm just that unlovable.

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>>34005328
>*clank sound*
Anon, the gym. She needs to be impressed that a boytoy like yourself is better than this gigachad she is after. Added women are not terrible people, but are instead human beings. Let's strip away this Gee golly wizz part of you into an easygoing relaxed guy who does something with his life.

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>>34005520
>Added women are not terrible people
I stopped reading right there chief, you've got your head shoved so far up a womens vag I can hear the pussy juices when you speak.

>>34005581
Good I love being there.

>>34005328
Link to thread? And yeah in the past 4 years pedo hysteria has exploded. I blame the elite who got spooked by people being onto their pizzagate shit and pushed the “legal age is still bad you shitlord” meme to muddy the waters.

>>34005328
>”I have to hide in my garage when I have young people in my house because we’re at different stages in life and there’s nothing to talk about”
The whole "I can't relate to someone younger" thing is so dumb. I'm in my mid 30's and I work with men and women of all ages - most of my team are fresh or recent college grads. I've had no problems befriending any of them and I got really close with my 25 year old qt3.14 former sorority girl coworker.

We all watch the same movies, see the same news, read the same books etc.. Basically we all experience the same planet. We have so much more in common than not. The only times I couldn't relate to them are some of the new artists or influencers they follow but it's never been a big deal

do people still host house parties after college? it's like 50x easier for me to meet/get with women at those. I'm gonna miss em real bad after I graduate.

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Anyone here ever been in a situation where you found out you have a fundamental values clash with your partner, and if so, how did you handle that?

I was seeing this great girl and everything was going fantastic - she was super interested in me, we had fun dates, great physical chemistry, and we just loved talking with each other. Then one day (and I forgot how this happened) we got on a topic about gender/sex/trans etc., and it turns out her and I have very different perspectives on this.

She was distant for a few days after this then finally sent me a break-up text, basically citing that we were fundamentally incompatible. We had a nice exchange of messages and we're on good terms but romantically it's over for now.

We'd been seeing each other for just over a month. I can't help but think that maybe if we'd had the discussion a few months later, like after she had gotten to know me even better and when she was more attached, if she would have been more willing to compromise on her values. For context, she has a lot of trans/queer friends and this has resulted in different ideas of how her and I would raise kids, plus I think she probably felt like a hypocrite dating someone she saw as transphobic when she has trans friends.

Anyone here experienced this?

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