>>33992122
You have every right to reject people for the quality of their choices, and I for one agree with you, I don't want to talk to somebody who thinks that taking drugs is an excuse for their behavior, or a solution to their problems, it likely indicates they will look for similar outs to their issues rather then addressing the root of their issue.
To me it's a sign of a weak character.

>These fools conflate medicine with hard drugs
Omegakek, yeah it's good you did this so those people stay away from you. Yall are actually 12.

>>33992122
Completely valid for not wanting to associate with flawed beings.

>>33992533
keep taking your zoloft until you run out and hang yourself

>>33992570
Keep following your playground tier hierarchy and kitty rules till you die alone with no one but a wet nurse comforting you to the afterlife. You subhuman degenerate who can't fathom that medicine is actually good for you if you need said medicine.

>>33992122
Not necessarily. I don't think that SSRIs are really an adequate solution to the problem that causes most people to take them.
That said, I personally wouldn't disqualify someone purely because they take SSRIs. I'm close to plenty of people who do, and they're otherwise very insightful and kind people.

>>33992184
>who thinks that taking drugs is an excuse for their behavior
How is this related to taking SSRIs as a mental health treatment? Not a fan of them myself because of libido effects but idgi.

>>33992554
I only talk conversate with perfect people; that is why I post on 4channel.

>>33992122
That's perfectly fine. Don't listen to anyone seething about it, that's just the SSRIs talking.

>>33992122
It depends. If they're taking it for mental illness type issues then ya, you have a valid reason. If they're taking them for migraines for example (same fucking drugs are used here) then no, you're stupid. If they're depressed because of losses in their life like people or loved ones, then this can be tricky...50/50% chance here. If they're batshit crazy and they have to take meds to stop talking to themselves or other nutcake things...then no, run your ass off and don't look back. They'll chop your cock off or stab you while you're sleeping.

So find out WHY they're taking the meds. If they won't tell you, don't put up with that shit. If they tell you and it seems reasonable, then that is different. Thing is getting off SSRI's is a major fucking challenge and you're not gonna like the person when they're coming off them. If they absolutely NEEEEED them to function and they miss their doses somehow...it happens...they're angry motherfuckers and you're gonna notice.

So, weigh the pros and cons of that particular person in your life. Unfortunately people get depressed a lot these days for good reason. Life is very expensive and difficult and it's not going to get better for quite a while.

SSRI’s are shit and their side effects are worse. People who take them also dont take them properly (ie same time everyday, no alc, etc) and get messed up from all the side effects. or go thru withdrawal. I’ve taken them and its been rough (inb4 “thats just ur experience”), others take them and “think” its fine until their off of them and are like wtf. Docs are stupid and dont take them themselves but will offer them like easy solutions to society fucking your ass. also being gaslit you need them just to profit of diagnosis and prescriptions.

OP is based :)

>>33992761
Because taking an experimental pharmaceutical drug to satisfy a natural emotional response to living in the unnatural conditions of the modern world is not a responsible behavior, it lacks personal accountable, and demonstrates that you're the kind of person to simply comply with whatever the contemporary trends are for the sake of social peace as opposed to fighting against the things causing you distress in the first place, and you will remain a slave for the rest of your life, dragging other people down with you to conform them to the same societal trends to fear to break away from.

>>33992122
I would not want to employ them. Bet that’s illegal so, you gotta be their friend.

>>33992122
>is it wrong for me to not want to associate with someone if they're taking SSRIs?
Yes.

>>33992122
>is it wrong for me to not want to associate with someone if they're taking SSRIs?
Like morally wrong? No. Its retarded and makes no sense but its not immoral to be retarded. You're good.

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>>34000777
duality of /adv/

>>33992122
It's very unlikely that there's something neurologically wrong with their brain like a chemical imbalance, and even if there were it's hard to diagnose that. Most cases of depression can be cured with clean living and discipline. So it's like a 95% chance that they are taking the easy way out, as opposed to making an effort to exercise, get more sunlight, eat and sleep better, etc. Going outside really does cure most cases of depression, unless it's due to a tragic life event. Even then you should go to therapy, not take pills. Do you really wanna associate with someone who takes the easy way out?

>is it wrong for me to not want to associate with someone if they're taking SSRIs?
ur allowed to just not like people

>To me it's a sign of a weak character.
that's the real problem - id bet you made this post because 'someone' has weak character
if you found out someone you respected was on SSRIs just to keep their shit together and be their best selves you wouldn't be posting

I'm gonna infer there's a larger trend in 'someones' behaviour - don't let the board guilt you into keeping toxic people in your life

>>33992122
Need to switch careers

>>33996323
You’re a massive ignorant retard.
I tried to avoid antidepressants the longer I could because I used to think like you. Guess what? my brain isn’t capable of resting without them. Literally I can sleep for hours and still be tired and with a headache all day. Had to do all kind of weird experiments with my own sleep for 5 years from fragment it with alarms through the night to changes in my pre sleep routine over and over. Of course I still have shitty nights most of the time.
This is not sheer will. My brain is sick.

>is it wrong for me to not want to associate with someone if...
Doesn't matter the reason. Tell them the old "it's not you, it's me" and move on

>>33992184
Whoever posted this has their own weaknesses and probably just feels emboldened by quitting weed.

>>33992667
This, spot on.
Straight edge superiority complex.

>>33992122
no it's just realistic SSRI's undermine people's ability to rationally control themselves and their lives, you are forever in a game to try to balance random chemical injections into your brain and if they are angry it's just as likely because their brain is fucked up as they are actually mad.
>>33992554
it's not flawed, it's flawed + totally given up any actual attempt to resolve the flaws and sacrificed your only possible means of overcoming them.

>>33992667
>you die alone with no one but a wet nurse comforting you
Threat that only works against your own mother

>>34001212
>>34001781
Your brain is sick because you live in a world in which disease is allowed to spread rampantly without any push back, and rather then treating the root cause doctors get paid more money to suppress the issue or get you hooked on drugs that cause numerous side effects.
The weak must die, if you are innately or genetically this way you should not be allowed to pass on these traits by natural law.
If you cannot survive without a mind altering substance then you do not deserve to live. Allowing your genes to pass on will only mean that future generations will be even weaker then you, because they will not be able to survive without dependence onto the medical system.
Your philosophy creates a race of slaves that will literally be unable to revolt against the system that is keeping them alive, when they should not be alive in the first place if they have to rely on these substances to do it.
Odds are there are healthier more natural solutions to these issues that you were too weak to research or try, so you blindly accepted medical consensus rather then trying something not so utterly retarded.
Get sunlight on your skin, eat healthy, drink water, exercise, find hobbies, find a community, don't drink alcohol, don't do drugs, don't wear clothes made with petroleum, don't eat off of Led plates, don't eat foods that contain additives, don't get vaccinated. Literally just learn how to not be a literal piss baby retard who needs modern medicine to bail him out of every issue.

>>34002921
>You know what helps you survive? Live how they did centuries ago with no medicine when the life expectancy was much, much lower and people died of preventable illnesses
Your retardism couldn't possibly be more overstated here, anon. If your darwinist theory is to be taken literally your bloodline should not survive for how astonishingly dumb you are. Without modern conveniences there is no reason someone as shockingly low IQ as you should be alive.

>>34002921
You're right in that there's better solutions than ssris and the wesk surviving makes it worse for everyone. But the bridge has already been crossed and infant mortality is way down from what it was. You'll have to settle for the non-reproductive ones losing

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>>34003014
Apply an ounce of logic to the future of your consequences, and of people who think like you.
>Exhibit A
If the government and medical system produces the things necessary for you to survive, you are literally incapable of seeing outside of your shallow perspective. You cannot in any way revolt against the thing that is keeping you alive without effectively committing suicide.
But guess what retard, your quality of life has not improved, and your lifespan has improved as a consequence of spending the rest of your waking life paranoid about germs and being locked indoors.
Me? I've been drinking raw milk since I was 6 years old, I never get sick, I eat raw unfiltered honey every day, I use public water fountains regularly, I got over covid in half a day, and have the strongest immune system out of most people alive.
I got a dog bite a few years ago and denied a Tetinus shot, because I actually put my theory into practice. I will not be a coward like you, and if I'm too weak to survive then I will gladly die to get off this gay earth and way from the rest of you pussy ass faggots.
My family having been living into their 90s-100s for as long as I have history of them. If more people were like me then we would have already built utopia, Quality over Quantity.

>>34003023
One wrong turn cannot correct another, the more reliant we are on these things the weaker we will become, and that's probably why obesity, chronic disease, mental illness, and a variety of other problems are greater now then any other period in history.
We're not creating a good world, we're creating a world of weak slaves.
If I or anyone should die to make a world for the Strong and the Moral, then I would gladly die, and the rest of you should do the same, but you won't, because you're weak, and you want everyone else to be just like you.

>>34003054
>Apply an ounce of logic to the future of your consequences, and of people who think like you.
The logic of the future of my consequences is the most prosperous period of human history with the highest life expectancy, productivity and period of technological and engineering accomplishments. Your logic is literally just returning to the 1800s when great minds and thinkers like Steven Hawking would be left to die because they're "weak" according to your incredibly antiquated perception of genetic superiority. You're literally arguing against human progress. Live like a fucking pilgrim if you want but you're literally just arguing for us to return to the days of adults dying in their 30s and infant mortality skyrocketing.

>I've been drinking raw milk since I was 6 years old, I never get sick, I eat raw unfiltered honey every day, I use public water fountains regularly, I got over covid in half a day, and have the strongest immune system out of most people alive.
You even think like a pilgrim. Anecdotal data is not data. People live longer and are healthier now because of modern medicine. Its just an objective fact. You surviving raw milk and dog bites has absolute zero relevance to the objective data.


>But guess what retard, your quality of life has not improved, and your lifespan has improved as a consequence of spending the rest of your waking life paranoid about germs and being locked indoors.
The smart guy can't even argue without conjuring the most retarded strawman anyone's ever heard. As I said, your bloodline is cursed with subhumanly low IQ. Thank modern conveniences for your survival.

>>34003023
>You're right in that there's better solutions than ssris
He isn't right. SSRIs are not designed for people to live on them perpetually. Its designed to help assist people in getting treatment to eventually acclimate and normalize on their own. As with all technology there's issues and downfalls but there's no denying the absolutely concrete, undeniable data that antidepressants have a net positive effect on people diagnosed with depression and has saved millions of lives. Its just not even debatable.

>>33992122
Where have you been all my life?
I'm heading to the next world soon, and I was thinking about TAKING ssris so I wouldn't want to cry and run away from PEOPLE
We could've been friends, lol.

>>33992677
this is the take I most align with here. The common idea that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance is technically true, but there are things you should do first before you settle on SSRI's. Getting poor sleep, not exercising, eating poorly etc - these can cause a chemical imbalance aka depression.

Most of the people I've seen who take SSRI's don't bother fixing their sleep or exercising or eating properly. You could make a circular argument about how they can't do it because they're depressed but frankly I was pretty depressed and anxious to the point of panic attacks, but I fixed that with the steps I mentioned before.

I do know several people on SSRI's who are very intelligent and nice enough. I also know someone on SSRI's who is a bit unstable and anxious and I get why she took them in the first place. I might not pursue a serious relationship with someone on SSRI's but I'd befriend them.

>>33992122
The only valid usecase for an SSRIs is to calm down an overly emotional person who has fundamentally proven to be unable to live with their emotions in a way that can't be fixed. SSRIs emotionally and sexually castrate you (semi-permanent effects according to newer observations), which in case of an unhinged obnoxious person can make them tolerable and thus indirectly improve their social life.
Most people on SSRIs got on them through a blanket prescription when they once had hard times and seeked help, and shouldn't be using them.
PSA for people who want to stop taking SSRIs, you have to do a LONG taper or you risk brain damage.

Being on SSRIs isn't bad in itself but there's a massive correlation between taking SSRIs and being insufferable. Lots of people who believe that their anxiety/depression is a set condition and the only way to reduce symptoms is SSRIs. They'll refuse to ever consider even reducing their dose and will try to increase it at any slight increase of their anxiety or depression levels. And they'll continue to take it forever even if they're symptoms have reduced to the point of nonexistence because they believe the medication is what removed it rather than change in lifestyle or circumstance. They'll also hound you to take it if you tell them you're feeling even any minor anxiety or sadness. They're the same sort of people who are fat as fuck but refuse to try to lose weight because they think it's their genetics rather than their lifestyle that's the problem. Avoid these people at all costs.
The one's who aren't insufferable are generally the ones who don't tell you they take SSRIs unless asked. They actually recognize that what conditions you have and what medication you take is a private thing that doesn't need to be shared with everyone.
I really don't mean to shit on people who take SSRIs, even I used to take them, what I'm describing isn't the majority of people but is a very loud minority because they're the only ones that actually talk about taking them.

>>34003087
>prosperous period of human history
We have some of the highest rates of disease, mental illness, autism, and the like. These accomplishments have only succeeded in destroying the natural world, and damning us to a life lived in front of machines. Were it not for these machines, you and most the people on the planet wouldn't be here, and that is necessary.
Every species has something to keep it's population in check, if we overcome those things we throw everything out of balance.
Men like Steven Hawking didn't achieve shit for humanity, we are slaves, you are a slave, and essentially proving my point that you can't see how fucking terrible modern life is.
The thing you dipshits always say as that people died more back then, sure, but if we apply what we learned now to the past we can have long life expectancies without all the bullshit, but yes, that means retard abstractionists like Hawking and Kikstein would have to die, they don't even do anything for the world anyway but further seperate us from nature.
>You're literally arguing against human progress
There is no such thing as human progress. Progressing from what to what? Nothing, there is nothing, it's an illusion designed to trick you into accepting all this bullshit as healthy and natural, when it's not.
I will live to my 100s even in those days, and a lot of other people to. I would rather a world of about 1 million healthy people then a world of 8 Billion Indians all cancer ridden and constantly paying money to doctors to survive.
>Anecdotal data is not data
What you basically are saying is
>"Modern science that is often payed for by lobbyists told me that thing X is not true, therefor it is not true."
You literally cannot think for yourself or come to your own conclusions, nor take a chance on anything, because you are a mental slave.

>>34003087
>People live longer and are healthier
No, they're not.
You will have multiple cancers in your body by the time you're 70, you will have multiple hip and knee surgerie by the time you're 50, you will have a higher chance of diabetes and mordid obesity, you will be multi-vacced and constantly waiting for daddy pharma to give you more drugs.
>Hurray longer life spans!
All so you can spend the rest of your life spending countless dollars obsessed over health problems caused by your own shitty weak behavior, meanwhile I and the rest of my family will outlive you.
Nice try though trying to apply your hivemind thinking.
>Thank modern conveniences for your survival.
I'm alive because I'm strong, I'm not a low IQ jeet like you, but your fate however will be filled with low IQ jeets that should not exist by natural law.
You are weak, you know you're weak, but you're not going to accept it because you live in a paracosm where weakness is rewarded.
If you're too weak to survive a glass of milk, then I'm willing to bet you're not as intelligent or strong as me.
Enjoy your conveniences though, and the next 100 times you get vaccinated I hope you think of me.

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>>34003114
It is though, because there are healthier forms of sedatives that don't involve experimental drugs with numerous side effects.
The only information I need to cite is the fact that mental health rates are higher now then ever before, and they keep going up, and your psychiatrist doesn't use them as "Temporary", they are used to permanently pacify you and erode your cognitive capacity.
A healthy world would not rely on these drugs, nor see pacification as a solution to these problems. Mental health reactions are often normal reactions to a sick world, and we sedate that reaction as sickness rather then confronting the fact that modernity is insane and should be stopped from spreading.

>>34003198
>You could make a circular argument about how they can't do it because they're depressed
But this is exactly the mentality the modern psychiatric industry fosters:
>"You are weak, you need drugs."
It is designed to diminish your autonomy, so that even when you're not taking drugs you are wholly reliant on a variety of other modern contrivences instead of actually learning to solve the issue on your own, to which the midwits reply:
>"B-but, meds help manage the issue so that we Can learn to handle them on are own!"
To which I reply again with the insanely high mental illness rates, and the fact that most people who start going to therapy never stop. Nothing that psychology teaches you is about Independence, it's about conditioning you to accept slavery.

>>34004018
Even then there are more effective ways to calm an irrational person, such as the use of force.

>>34004018
Well.....i have brain damage.

>>34003198
Problem is people got put on that stuff when they didn't know. Many were young. Every adult failed them.