Why does women actually caring about personality trigger incels so much?Is it because you can work on it?
>>33992257Personality is harder to change than looks. >need frequent social interaction to develop a personality>need a personality for people to want to interact with youI have improved my looks and people i know say i glowed up but im still an antisocial incel inside
>>33992331i'm a christian girl 1000x capable of knowing God's love so whoever wrote this is a goofball.to op: the men who call themselves incels have shallow taste in women so the idea that some women don't also have shallow taste terrifies them.
>>33992257When a women says she 'cares about personality' it really means she cares about your social status.
>>33992257moids dont have personalities, so a lot of women dont have sex. this obviously triggers moids>>33992331>Be a moid>Admit that all moids are the same and just want to cause suffering>Claim that women are the evil oneshermit monks are a meme. they cant get laid. moids never turn down sex.all moids hate women. there is no way to rehabilitate moids, so moids should just be killed.moids just want to cause suffering, moids constantly demand access to girls, moids literally want to violently assault women every time they see one, and you still claim that women are the parasites.if women were the parasites, women would be the ones demanding access to moids.moids straight up admit that they are all the same. calling women a hivemind is projection.>they fall apart once a monthnot all women have PMS, let alone mood swings. moids have DAILY hormonal cycles and everyone suffers for it.if you relly thought like this, you would prefer elderly women, since they dont have periods.>>33992629if this was true, donald trump wouldnt have any reason to commit rape, and NO WOMAN WOULD BE A VIRGIN YOU FUCKING MORONpoor people literally breed the most
>>33993050what would it cost you to have sex with me, imagine i'm right there next to you, what would it cost you?
>>33993050>"moids" every few wordsYou need to be 18 to post here kiddo
>>33992257Women usually like dominant personality traits in men, and incels are usually subs.
>>33993050How do you explain fit chad monks who do martial arts?
>>33992629>When a women says she 'cares about personality' it really means she cares about your social statusOuch, thermonvclear trve nvke
>>33992257KEEPMYWIFE'SNAME
>>33992507>i'm a christian girl>>33993050You will never be a woman
>>33993094several millions of dollars. i am not a masochist, but all moids are sadists.>>33993278>personality traits>in men>>33993285if thats a thing, either they are permavirgins for reasons other than their build, or theyre lying about being chaste
>>33993374actually disregard that i'm retarded
>>33992257It is because the incels want to believe that it is not their fault (and therefore it is unfair) that they are incels. That relieves them of responsibility. Questioning that belief causes them to become angry and fearful because you have put responsibility back on them.
>>33993393hey, you're actually funny
>>33993458shut up and kiss me moid
Cope
>>33992491
>>33993404>It is because the incels want to believe that it is not their fault (and therefore it is unfair) that they are incels. That relieves them of responsibility.This is the whole site in a nutshell.
>>33993050>>33993374>>33993393>>33993467>>33993458I have a personality, because I'm you, and sufemacist has personality.
>>33992257it's a weird dichotomy between "i can change my behavior to attract women which is cool" and "figuring out this personality thing feels like trying to guess a password for each woman's unique tastes." but ultimately it's a whitepill. the fact that insanely hot women will like you if you are sufficiently carefree enough in her presence is the whitepill of being a man. the world is your oyster
I don't see why it would trigger someone? If someone doesn't like you, you just let them go and move on with your life. Simple as that. Worrying too much about that stuff will just make you miserable.
All polls say women disregard personality.
>>33998191You have to worry about it to a healthy degree, especially if you're not a good person you need to cognizance to know what qualities you should improve on and what parts of you are genuinely the best expressions of your individuality.
>>33998197moids do not have personalitiesdont polls show that like a third of moids want to commit rape
because I'm awesome and they're stupid
>>33992257everything triggers incels. You can be successful and you will be the object of envy, they will scorn and ridicule you while lamenting how you haven't died yet. You can be a failure and they will mock you and trample your image beneath their feet in a prideful charge. Incels are subhumans, no different than the same fucking w*men they despise.
>>33998217Imagine if you will having rape fantasies, but only about a man you are committed to for life, and then that same man who secretly wants to rape but he only wants to rape you and no one else because you're the love of his life.That's love baby girl, that's what me and you will have one day.
>>33998242sounds nightmarish, would easily rather die
>>33998348What would you rather have instead? An eternity of posting on the internet, alone and fading into old age blaming men for your problems, shitposting and pretending to be a woman?If both people are into it, it's clearly not rape, so what the hell is your problem?
>just work on your "pErSoNaLiTy", bro!Yout so-called "personality" is based upon your looks and height. If you're good looking and tall, you'll be perceived as having a "good personality" and vice versa. This is a hard pill to swallow, so a lot of incels deny it.
>>33998433Bull fucking shit. Do you honest to god think women don't value men who are practical and realistic? I'm no competing against super strong dudes, I'm competing against people who win arguments. It is that one guy who seperates himself from the crowd looks at everyone as monkeys and calls himself the human, and then women go after him, because he is the human in every situation. If you be the human in every situation, you'll go far.
>>33998366>man who secretly wants to rapeyes thats completely worse, what i want doesnt exist, thats why i decided to just stay single>If both people are into it, it's clearly not rapemoids claim that every woman and child wants to get raped...>>33998433>moids dont have personalities>women at fault
>>33998491>yes thats completely worse, what i want doesnt exist, thats why i decided to just stay singleYa, that's pretty much what I and other man have been saying about women.Do you genuinely not understand irony? I simply find it hard to believe a ragebaiter would be this commited to the bit. Men don't want to rape you or other women, we quite literally do not want to rape and we just want love.>moids claim that every woman and child wants to get raped...Ya, you clearly aren't intelligent enough to understand what is going on. I honestly feel sorry for you to always live on edge like this and never understand nuance or irony.Nobody wants women and children to be raped, stop saying that.
>>33998509>TRUST ME BRO IM VOLCEL BRO I HATE HAVING SEX WITH WOMEN>Do you genuinely not understand irony? I was totally joking bro, no gentleman would ever want to do anything evil>Men don't want to rape you or other womenyou constantly brag about wanting to commit rape.>HERE COMES A FOID GOING "LE RAPE BAD">we quite literally do not want to rape and we just want love.you flat-out admit that it's in your nature to rape and you will all do it if you think you can get away with ityou constantly complain about women who want to date males who dont hate us>Nobody wants women and children to be rapedright, thats why moids who know they can get away with it never rape anybody
>>33998539I made a joke about it because you keep bringing it up and obsessing over it, obviously rape is bad, obviously I think rape is bad.Seriously get help, the jannies clearly don't want to confront your fucking spam, but you should really get your head checked whether you're trolling or not. You don't want health, you just want to bitch and complain about every small little detail and never so much as try to understand the other side of the conversation.You will always be miserable, and everyone on the board can see how fucking insane you are.
>>33998555>admit that you all hate women and girls>one woman believes you>tell her to get help>You don't want health, i can tell because you wont let me give you unironic brain damage from choking. you wont even date me so that i can cheat on you>never so much as try to understand the other side of the conversationmotherfucker, i used to think that moids were all different. moids plainly admit that they are all the same and solely motivated by hunger, hatred, and horniness. moids admit that when moids say pleasing things, they are just lying for sex (at best)what else is there to understand?
>>33998577I mean it Sue, can you look at me?It's not your fault.
>>33992257Because you have examples of men who beat or are otherwise unkind to women get girlfriends. They equate "good" personality to be being a "good" person. So bad people getting success disproves it in their mind.Personally I like to say charisma and social skills matter a lot and incels completely neglect to think about those.
>>33998433I thought it was the opposite, what even is an incel.
"Personality" is sort of a bad term. When people use it, they really mean your social dynamic, and it's not the ALPHA DOMINATING PRESENCE that a lot of people here think it is, but rather how much other people want to be around you. The idea that women go for men that already have girlfriends sort of stems from this, since they already have someone that wants to be around them.
>>33992257>Is it because you can work on it?Yes, that's exactly. They dodge responsibility by focusing on what they can't change rather than what they can.
No one that has ever used incel as an insult has a good personality. Not a single one of you failed normies have good personalities. Your worldview essentially boils down to "at least im not an incel". Thats all this faggot board is. Its losers peacocking to other losers about how theyre a little less of a loser.
>>33998433>If you're good looking and tall, you'll be perceived as having a "good personality"Actually not completely untrue, but what you retarded incels never consider is that the inverse is also equally true.In other words if a woman actually likes you for whatever reason, she will perceive you as being better looking than you actually are.
>>34004631Ok, so why have you decided that anyone here who insults an incel must also be a loser?Walk me through the thought process here chief, because I've also seen it said here by incels that the whole world looks down on them, represses them and makes fun of them which is supposed to be one of the big things you're mad about. So which is it?
>>34004688NTA. It's basically societal heuristics designed by the Occult to shame people into indecent behavior.>"What, you haven't engaged in reckless premarital sex with strangers? Virgin! Incel! Loser!"But do you also notice how there isn't the same level of shame or encouragement for people to get married and be faithful and engage in healthy relationship patterns?Almost like modern society is predicated on everyone justifying their own indecency by getting other people to act indecently, and that is exactly what LGBT and mentally ill and vaccinated people are engaging in shaming people into being exactly as broken as them.Nobody who shares an insanity will recognize it as such, and the insane really want to convert you to their way of thinking and behaving.
>>339922571) because as the FPBP pointed out, personality is very hard to change. Your personality as an adult is a reflection of your childhood development. If your upbringing was somehow fucked up, like by abusive parents or excessive bullying, there’s no “undo” button on childhood trauma. The best you can do is either mask, which women can sense, or just become secure in who you are and stop caring so much about what women think.2) As >>33999550 said, women do not reward people with good or kind personalities. They reward charismatic, “exciting” personalities. When guys complain “only assholes get laid” that’s not true, but assholes do get laid. And not “funny confident” asshole, I mean genuine human pieces of shit. Most men want to be good people, it’s in our nature to be benevolent, so it’s disheartening to see women unleashed by hypergamy actively choosing the opposite.
>>34004855Fuck it, im choosing the opposite
>>33992257BECAUSE THEY FUCKING DON'T?To women personality means wealth and status, and the final redpill about women is that they SPEND THEIR ENTIRE LIFETIME PROJECTING.Looks for an "adventure", money and status for a long term relationship, the bullshit boomers told us about "le women are le mysterious" is total horse crap, women are less complex than a roadkill lizard.To women having a personality means constantly fighting over the most irrelevant bullshit, constantly lie and provoke you and spend at least 14 hours on netflix/instsgram.I can fucking change my personality based on how expensive my clothes are.
>>34004281>I spend my entire day gaslighting people on the internetAt least I hope you're a glownigger wagecuck that gets paid minimum wage because if not you're beyond pathetic.
>>33992257>Why does women actually caring about personality trigger incels so much?It doesn't. Incels generally refuse to believe personality matters, so they get enraged when people tell them women care about it, because they assume it's a lie. The "lie" is what triggers them. I'd bet good money that if an incel somehow went on a date, and he blew it with a woman by acting like an insecure schizo, he would accuse her of leaving him for chad or some nonsense. It's all these types can comprehend.Basically this >>33993050 poster's mindset. Assume the worst of [group], point to a few examples of people in that group actually being shitty as proof of your assumption (for which the entire group is culpable), and then discount anything to the contrary as dishonesty.It's impossible to reason with someone who treats disagreement as identical to dishonesty.
>>33992257Listen I'm an autistic sperg and even I know that both man and woman want looks + personality. My only problem is when someone says "Oh it doesn't that you look like a rat, woman only care about personality" it's just plainly a lie, it's the same shit when someone says "You need to be 3 meters and a have a mansion on fucking Jupiter in order to get a fatty". Both are retarded and you should improve both your looks and personality.
>>34004946>being this much of a mentally ill liar
>women's tactic du jour is parroting everything they get told
>>34005005>Listen I'm an autistic sperg and even I know that both man and woman want looks + personality.That's exactly the point, women want to be above the rules.To women equality is kryptonite.Want to really piss off a woman? Treat her like you would treat a guy.It won't give you sex, because it won't, but it will really show their true colors.Women the only thing they want in life is to control you.
>>33998240So you're an incel.
>>33998491rape doesn't exist. There are only women who don't know what they want
>>34005032>>34005039>>women's tactic du jour is parroting everything they get told>rape doesn't exist. There are only women who don't know what they want>>34005100>women conveniently want everything i wantgenuinely kill yourself. you are nothing but evil, and there is no reason for you to live.>>34005035>Want to really piss off a woman? Treat her like you would treat a guy.moids never do this. this is just flat-out not a thing that happens. moids live double lives
>>34004855Eh, any high quality woman (as in the kind that won't raise your children to be retarded) is going to value a man who's at least kind to her, and probably kind to others.Of course if you lack charisma she'll never be able to notice you in the first place though.Kindness IS good for getting a bride, but it isn't going to get you one on its own, and of course there are going to be exceptions to the norm. Remember that the news only posts out of the ordinary things, and that can warp how common things (like wife beating) seem.
>>34005005Nobody has told you that women care absolutely nothing about looks. This is a weird incel strawman I hear over and over that has yet to materialize in reality.
I stopped caring about trying to help Incels when I realized they act like bitter housewives who just want to endlessly complain about life instead of trying to live it.
>>34005798>and there is no reason for you to live.You're still projecting babe.>>34006300You just described Femcels, hence ^
>>34006225There are very few high quality women then. I'm not saying women should get with boring planks of wood, but it really says something that women will risk getting pregnant with the worst kinds of men because they got pussy tingles
>>34006717>There are very few high quality women then.BasicallyThere's about the same percentage of high quality women as men. >>34006573It's like either end of the bell curve for both genders have more in common with each other than with the opposite end.
>>34006573Yes, incels act like fat ugly women, bravo Einstein.
>>34006748>There's about the same percentage of high quality women as men.The difference is that hypergamy favors women, to where low quality women are still competing while low quality men aren't able to.>>34006792Incels are at least self aware, femcels are not. That difference in accountability shows that men are more willing to fix these issues then women are, it's just that when they put in the work to change from a 3 to a 6 they are still practically invisible to women because hypergamy only favors men who are 7 and above.
>>33992257yes.incels are lazy fucks with enormously delicate egos. they can take two approaches:1: they have to try and risk failure, which is hard and can hurt their egos by meaning their existing personality is dogshit2: they do nothing, dont risk their egos, and hide behind bullshit while having their garbage thought boosted in echo chambers like this (that also factually have russian psyops pushing their beliefs)
>>34006839It only works the way it does because there are fewer eligible women than men.
>>34006839>low quality women are still competing while low quality men aren't able to.You've been watching way too much fresh and fit, brother. You gotta ease up. Its making your brain smooth.
>>34006874Not sure what you meant by this chief.>>34006927I have no idea what that is, I'm just describing what I'm seeing with my own eyes. We have record high rates of divorce, infidelity, and male absenteeism, while women are still going out and engaging in the same dysfunctional culture they claim to despise.Womens standards have become so high and untenable, that they mostly just chase high status men, who aren't necessarily moral. Men will give low status women a chance, but the inverse is simply not true in the majority of cases, womens egos have been inflated to such a degree that health and normality aren't generally apparent in the female population.>https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
>>34006993>I have no idea what that is, I'm just describing what I'm seeing with my own eyesLol no you're not. You're parroting red pill podcast talking points word for word.>Womens standards have become so high and untenable, that they mostly just chase high status men, who aren't necessarily moral. Men will give low status women a chanceThe fact that you've bought into the high status vs. low status paradigm means your mind is already lost, brother. You ignore the millions of other facts of modern life that influence dating and instead pin the entire thing on women's egos as if men have no agency and are just children who live in perpetual victimhood. I can't possibly think of a more cucked mindset, never mind the fact that you're just factually incorrect. All of the data we have shows that people end up more or less with those in their same race, socioeconomic status, age and social status. There is no massive influx of poor ugly women settling with rich handsome socialites. This thing is entirely fabricated in your mind. It just isn't happening. You've been watching way too many redpill podcasts. Its turning your brain to mush.
>>33992257Everything triggers incels
>>34007024>You're parroting red pill podcast talking points word for word.I don't listen to Spic fuentes or that nignog andrew tate, I think they're largely retarded, as are most redpill content pushers, but what they're responding to is a real observable phenomenon that anyone who has been out in the social world can see, and at least in that regard what they're saying is true.>no agency and are just children who live in perpetual victimhoodI can agree with you partially, I think men have to take action, but we have to acknolwedge that the system at the moment has explicitly anti male, especially anti white male purposes.I've met a lot of White dudes who went into STEM who aren't getting hired despite being top performers, and now the government is saying we need H1Bs, all while women are working HR and managerial jobs that don't really benefit anyone.Sure it's not just one thing, and as men we have been raised to essentially be door matts to what is going on. What I'm saying is that yes, it is Men and Women, but Women are not nearly as cognizant of the issue because the system at the moment incentivizes their shitty behavior, and so they are the ones who are mostly engaging with it at the moment, and I'm sorry if you disagree but that is an observable fact in literally every regard.>with those in their same race, socioeconomic status, age and social status.Absolutely, I'm not saying that isn't true, but those numbers are going down and people are far more unhealthy now then ever before, this and the fact that the modern system has an explicitly anti-white agenda via affirmative action and DEI hiring programs. The stats are also misleading because the system fails to properly classify data due to dumb fucks being hired to calculate this shit (Hence the Hispanics inflating the White Crime Rate.)
>>34007024>settling with rich handsome socialites.That's not how hypergamy works, I think you should actually learn what you're talking about before you go accusing people of shit they're not doing.These low status women end up getting used and discarded, or end up with baby daddies. Absent fathers, premarital sex, children born out of wedlock, this is all observable and higher now then ever before, and as the statistic I literally just cited before shows that you didn't read, the majority of women are claiming to be in relationships while the majority of men are not.Just because you don't understand the data or won't look at it doesn't mean it's not happening.Now where we agree is that I don't think men should sit idly by, but we have to acknowledge the problems if we're going to take action.Modern society is incredibly dysfunctional, and women are voting for and encouraging these indecency moreso than men, hence their voting habits and personal values these days.
>>34007073>I think they're largely retarded, as are most redpill content pushersI don't believe you. You are parroting their terminology and talking points literally word for word. >I've met a lot of White dudes who went into STEM who aren't getting hired despite being top performers, and now the government is saying we need H1Bs, all while women are working HR and managerial jobs that don't really benefit anyone.Ah the old "Its DEIs fault I can't get ahead" schtick. Dude, there's no way you don't watch these podcasts. You're hitting literally every single talking point on the redpill schizo bingo card.>and I'm sorry if you disagree but that is an observable fact in literally every regard.In other words "Just trust me bro, please, I know the data disagrees with me but I see things with my eyes".>Absolutely, I'm not saying that isn't trueGreat. Then it completely shows that what you're saying is false. >those numbers are going down Literally one post ago you said a thing was happening, I explained to you it wasn't happening and now you've moved your goalposts to "Ok, it isn't happening but like, its starting to happen".>this and the fact that the modern system has an explicitly anti-white agenda via affirmative action and DEI hiring programsYou're actually mentally ill, anon. You've fallen victim to literally every grift in the right-wing schizo man-o-sphere. I haven't the time nor interest in deprogramming you.
>>34005798>genuinely kill yourself. you are nothing but evil, and there is no reason for you to live.you sound really raped.
>>34007088>That's not how hypergamy worksYou literally said "low status women have crazy high standards and only seek high status men". That's incorrect. There is no evidence anywhere to suggest there's any significant population of people dating outside of their relative social value. Having sex is a different conversation but you redpill guys love to interchange the two in order to hide the glaring inconsistencies in your dogshit ideology.>These low status women end up getting used and discarded, or end up with baby daddies. Absent fathers, premarital sex, children born out of wedlockSo, in other words, exactly what I said. People largely end up in relationships with others of their relative same socioeconomic status, social class, age and race. Poor people knock up other poor people. Poor people come from poor households. Poor households have higher rates of addiction, abuse and dysfunction. No fucking shit.>as the statistic I literally just cited before shows that you didn't readImagine the irony of appealing to statistics while not even being passively familiar with the concept of correlation vs. causation.>Just because you don't understand the data or won't look at it doesn't mean it's not happening.Says the guy who haphazardly connects correlative data points with zero causative evidence other than "trust me bro, I observed it".>women are voting for and encouraging these indecency moreso than menAnd by indecency you mean going to school and getting jobs and by "getting jobs that don't benefit anyone" you mean the 7.6 trillion dollars that they add to the U.S. annual GDP. Enough internet for you today, anon. Clean your room. Your entire existence is a hot fucking mess.
>>34006279Both sexes care about looks, we fir some reason say that woman don't care. Don't get me wrong they are allowed to care about looks, the same way man are, this doesn't mean that it's ok to be a cunt to people you aren't attracted to.
>>34007128>I don't know what statistic you're citing, but I already concluded you must be wrong for disagreeing with me, so correlation =/= causationHoly midwit, batman!
>>33992257>Why does women actually caring about personality trigger incels so much?>Is it because you can work on it?It's because 'incels' are unsocialized. Some of them due to childhood ouchies, some due to deficiencies like autism or other mental differences, some because of both. They end up not knowing who they are, lacking a self-identity. They can think and rationalize and philosophize, in fact they spend a considerable amount of time within their own head, like a mind prison. But if you take all of that away and ask them who they are, they don't know
>>34007189>the same way man are, this doesn't mean that it's ok to be a cunt to people you aren't attracted to.I wonder what gives women the bravery of acting this way.
>>34007100I'm repeating facts, because facts are facts even if you don't want to actually look at them yourself.>"Its DEIs fault I can't get ahead"Not for me, but for many men that I've actually met and talked to this is the case, companies have explicitly anti-white policies. But I agree, it shouldn't stop us from forming our own institutions and excluding all other races.>I know the data disagreesIt doesn't, you just refuse to look at the data you fucking troglodyte.>https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/>https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-white-men-self-censoring-190238759.html>Then it completely shows that what you're saying is false. Not really, hence the above cited information, and the influx of H1Bs despite the fact that STEM bros aren't getting hired. And the fact that these trends have been going down for decades, and the fact that we are already living in a hypergamous system. But you'd rather fail to understand the implications of the statement and use it to "Win" the argument by making my words state something other then what is expressly stated.Just look at all the threads here that fixate on Sex, it's clear that sexual promiscuity is rampant even where we're at right now.>I haven't the time nor interest in deprogramming you.Ah yes, the typical >"My cognitive dissonance is acting up so I'm just going to pretend I won the argument and walk away before I'm forced to confront reality and get really angry."Well good thing for you I have facts and logic for you to discard like the brainlet you are, enjoy:>Women are still engaged in polygamous sexual culture while men opt out>https://signstv.co.ke/men-declining-in-clubs-as-women-dominate-nightlife-studies-show>https://www.newsweek.com/women-are-working-more-ever-men-dont-want-work-1901664>https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/19/views-of-dei-have-become-slightly-more-negative-among-us-workers/
>>34007573Adding onto my last post for you OP:>>33992257The archetypical 'incel' don't like to discuss matters of personality because they don't know the shape of their own personality. They don't know who they are. They only know 'what' they are and 'what' they are not. This is why they only discuss height, race, money, muscle, hair, dick size, nationality, etc etc. the pattern you see is they only talk about what they are or what they have or what they are not & what they are not. They don't know what to say about who they are. They genuinely don't know. That is also why they are starving to find out, they want to find a part of life to have, a person to have, to fit in and to know who they are. And I cannot fault them for this. They are simply young men who know their dilemma and they want to grow, mature adapt and evolve.For some reason though, whenever they express their desires or frustrations, everyone talks to them like trash. Most people either pity them, or shit on them. And that's not including people who outright avoid them. I am not an incel I'm a married man myself. But I genuinely believe the way we treat young men whose only crime was to try and grow and be somebody is atrocious. The current narrative frames them as: perverts, losers, weirdos, retards, man child. People automatically assume they have evil or selfish intent when their entire desire is to be needed or wanted by someone else so they can find purpose and self identity. I genuinely do not blame the 'incel' for all the anger and spite they carry. Because they do not carry it for no reason. There's a very real and painful reason they carry it. And people need to understand that.
>>34007128>dating outside of their relative social value.Again, you don't understand how hypergamy works. They're not dating, they're engaging in sex or situationships with high status men, but they aren't really dating. Most of these women have insanely high body counts, and when they are settling down it's typically after they've already slept around a lot in their Party lifestyle. I was a part of this lifestyle, I'm not saying this because some brown cuck told me to say it, I'm saying it because I've seen it first hand.Promiscuity is a plague that is destroying everyone involved.>So, in other words, exactly what I said.You seriously are incapable of basic literacy to understand the nuances of what I'm trying to tell you. "Ending up" with somebody after riding a mile of cock and then milking them for money isn't the "Gotcha!" that you think it is, hence why the divorce rate is so high (i.e. the existence of divorce pretty much undermines what you're saying because marriage doesn't mean anything anymore.):>https://www.modernfamilylaw.com/resources/top-10-divorce-statistics-you-need-to-know/Oh and try not to nitpick the ^ Divorce rate is lower now then earlier years, it's still like 50% of all marriages you fucking blockhead.>not even being passively familiar with the concept of correlation vs. causation.Fuck me it is impossible to have a conversation with the mentally retarded, it you saying>"Sure just about every statistic around shows Bad Things are happening at higher rates then any other period in history, and sure your experience and the experience of most men tends to confirm this, but those statistics don't mean anything and your experience isn't valid evidence!"Ya, you're sure going to convince men to just shut up and take the hits by gaslighting them into denying what's going on, great job pal.
>>34007128>>34008265>Cont>7.6 trillion dollars that they add to the U.S. annual GDP.Who does GDP benefit? Certainly not us, so who is benefiting from this? Why the fuck would you even cite that as a benefit to anyone when it is clear that we're all struggling, and GDP hasn't given us any demonstrable improvement to our lives.But sure, women are being "Educated" at institutions that train them to do largely social and managerial based jobs, and now they're not having children or settling down until their 30s, which is again a fact that you will avoid, but it's why men also don't give a shit. Women are being indoctrinated to essentially lower the birth rate and not be mothers, and if you cannot see the long term trajectory of this then you're absolutely fucked in the head, and need to stop engaging in these arguments when you really don't have a solution outside of:>Men bad, it men fault, man must do better, men must do more, men must wife a used up rage with multiple baby daddies, man up! Men must work hard for women that won't have children with them, just be manly! Men must die for Israel and accept foreigners into their lands, that's just what men are supposed to do!You haven't given men a single incentive to give a shit about anything, and until you can do so, nobody is going to listen to you if they don't already have estrogen coursing through their veins.
>>34007950Because you aren't allowed to call it out, if you do you are a incel misogynistic chud racist + current buzzword, and the crazy thing is that most woman are way more cruel to woman then man.
>>34007128>you mean the 7.6 trillion dollars that they add to the U.S. annual GDP>MUUUUHHHH GDP >GDP IS MY GOD I MUST SACRIFICE EVERYTHING FOR MORE GDPPPPPPPPPPP>W-w-wait, what do you mean most of that money ended up in the hands of Jewish billionaires and not me? >W-w-what do you mean that it's not even worth 10% of what it was before women entered the workforce thanks to inflation?Holy shit, I can't believe anyone would dare bring up "but it made GDP go up!" as a valid argument in 2025 Anno Domini. L O L
>>34004855>>34006225moids just want to cause suffering. none of them are kind.remind me why raping literal babies is benevolent?>>34006573>moids think it is their duty to cause as much harm as possible>some women refuse to have sex>"WHY DO WOMEN COMPLAIN SO MUCH OH MY GOD GUYS THESE STUPID FEEEMALES ARE COMPLAINING INSTEAD OF GIVING ME THEIR BABIES FOIDS ARE SO EVIL">>34006717???? moids risk getting the worst kinds of women pregnant because they got dick tingles.all moids are the same. there's a reason so many women refuse to date.
>>34006839>WOMEN SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR TELLING ME NOT TO RAPE KIDS!!1!1! WHY DO WOMEN REFUSE TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY?!?!?!?>hypergamy only favors men who are 7 and above, thats why dads are famously handsome>>34006993all moids cheat if they have the opportunity.moids hate their wives but feel entitled to marriage.>women are still going out and engaging in the same dysfunctional culture they claim to despise.we have record high rates of voluntary celibacy, something only women do.for fuck's sake, you take your t=name after me, and you think im a monster because i don't engage in that culture.>Women's standards are impossible to reach>Women have sex with a different male every day from the age of 13all moids are devoid of morals.you are not entitled to a girlfriend. besides, you constantly demand loyal girlfriends half your age, and now you're whining that young moids can't get girlfriends?
>>34009832>>34009848I've noticed you get online in the afternoons. How was work Honey?>thats why dads are famously handsomeModern Hypergamy in our generation does not include previous generations.>all moids cheat if they have the opportunity.I have had the opportunity to cheat and I didn't, so you're wrong.>moids hate their wives but feel entitled to marriage.Again, not all moids, but yes, a lot of people get involved in spiteful marraiges because they're unhealthy people and don't know what it takes to have a real relationship, or like the maturity and the skills.>something only women do.A lot of men are doing this, even more so then women, hence why the majority of women are involved in relationships while the majority of men are not. There are many Incels (Involuntary Celibates) but there are just as many if not more who are voluntary at the moment, myself being one of them.>you are not entitled to a girlfriend. Didn't say I was, but I think I want something functional, and I don't want to get involved with somebody who is emotionally immature and incapable of processing their emotions, which as you're proving time and time again, it most women.If you want Men to be accountable, you need to also hold women accountable. Right now you're entering into threads to talk about Problems, not Solutions, and that is the difference that determines your immaturity.If you had any virtue in your body you wouldn't be complaining, and bitching about how you're giving up and everyone else is evil and should give up too.If you were truly virtuous you would be talking about solutions, and trying to work through the problem.You could also lose weight with this mentality, you'know, not justifying why you're fat and instead going to the gym or trying to be proactive about your health?
>>34007073>the system at the moment has explicitly anti male purposes.i wish. moids are not people, and everyone must stop treating moids like people. for fucks sake, moids bitch about being treated like people>as men we have been raised to essentially be door matts to what is going on.>constantly bitches about not having a harem of child sex slaves>Women are not nearly as cognizant of the issue, that's why women are opting out of a system that is meant only to hurt people for funsies>the system at the moment incentivizes their shitty behavioryou punish women for having sex with you, and you're mad that women are rewarded for not having sex?>constantly demand premarital sex>whine about premarital sex>HOW DARE WOMEN VOTE AGAINST HIGH TAXES AND GOV CENSORSHIP>>34007189you want to bully ugly women to suicide and you think sydney sweeney is mid>Women are still engaged in polygamous sexual culture while men opt outthis is straight up cap. moids constantly demand a harem. moids deliver empty threats of rape to women who refuse to have sex.>it's still like 50% of all marriageis that including second marriages and so on?>Bad Things>Look inside>Women opting out of a sadistic system>your experience and the experience of most menwould you use "most women say so" as a source?>Women are being indoctrinated to essentially lower the birth rate and not be mothersthis is cope. when women have a CHOICE, we stray away from continuing the cycle of suffering. this is not to excuse women who choose to become breeders.>Do nothing except lie and physically attack women>WHY DO YOU THINK MEN ARE BAD???>men must wife a used up rage with multiple baby daddiesyou are the ones who want us to be slaves to whores. moids never turn down sex>one woman and several moid engage in breeding>only the woman is at faulti despise israel, and i only think breeders (and ALL breeders) should be drafted
>>34008283america has never had a blanket ban on immigration. we need to ban immigrants and tourists from many countries though, most importantly israel and russia>You haven't given men a single incentive to give a shit about anythingyou are the ones demanding sex slaves. begging for sex while giving women who arent extremely masochistic and a little morally loose every incentive to opt out>nobody is going to listen to you if they don't already have estrogen coursing through their veins.>because testosterone is famous for causing level-headed and moral behavior
>>34009865>Modern Hypergamy in our generation does not include previous generations.if youre whining about young women, why are you bitching about women with a bunch of baby daddies? how delusional can you be?anyway, modern women are simply better off. shunning moids is the best choice to make>I have had the opportunity to cheat and I didn't, so you're wrong.this is an obvious lie. moids constantly brag about being inherently unfaithful.you also say that any moid who doesnt admit this shit is just trying to get laid. i hope you know that im not gonna fuck you.ALL married moids hate their wives.moids do not turn down sex. redpill is a lie, ironically. moids cannot be volcels, moids are whores to the core>I want something functional, where i can lie to her and cheat on her and bite her and choke her and beat her and rape her, and she loves me for being exactly as evil as every other moid to ever exist>you're proving time and time again, it most women.i obviously only represent the tiniest minority of women. even celibate women tend to be moid apologists to some degree.>STOP comlaining about the evil shit most women do as you just did, you need to also hold women accountable for not letting me rape and torture women and children for fun>Right now you're entering into threads to talk about Problems, not Solutionsi have been very clear on what the solution is. Women opt out, moids kill themselves. it's that simple.>If you had any virtue in your body you wouldn't be complaining, and bitching about how you're giving up and everyone else is evil and should give up too. Please ignore the fact that I'm the one doing this.>justifying why you're fati literally never did this. in fact, if you could read, you would know that i used to think i could just stop being ugly, before i started seeing moids complain about how evil women are for being born with most of the physical traits i have.
