Unfortunately I can't give you a real answer specifically for your scenario but I can commiserate having been through something kind of similar lately, stress induced psychosis / OCD

You sound like you're so anxious or that anaesthetic poked a nerve and it caused you to disassociate and your ocd has been fixated on it

This is a weird one, but those feelings you describe, they are hallucinations. They can be internal. For me, it was like my thoughts were telling me to jump. And I'd disassociate because that "wasn't me."

If you're in a place where cannabis is legal, the non-psychoactive CBD (It's basically weed with without the hallucinogens) has been studied for psychosis and OCD with some interesting calming results, but don't feel bad if you end up taking some antipsychotics for a bit. They sound more serious than they are, they just reduce dopamine so everything feels less important. Which reduces the mind racing, etc.

>>33993802
Well, to be more specific, the stuff like feeling thoughts coursing through you, or the bugs, that's hallucinations.

The pacing, the dreaming feeling... That's very similar to what I would do. Derealization in youth is associated with mental health symptoms like OCD / Bipolar / Whatever all the terms suck.

The biggest thing you can do is not be scared of the terms. Researching it a lot will send you on a spiral of "Am I schizophrenic? Am I XYZ? Is this brain tumor? AAAAAAaaaaaAaaa" so learning that the DSM terms suck ass is important.

>>33993802

That first link is a few months old, I've tried olanzapine since then and it didn't help unfortunately. My psychiatrist doesn't think antipsychotics will help as he thinks it's some kind of neuroinflamation thing, but I'm not sure he's if right. It's definitely not OCD, since I've had OCD all my life and it's nothing like this at all. Could be psychosis though?

>>33993820

Yeah, I know those things are hallucinations, I just figured they aren't schizophrenia because I've never believed they were real. And I could always "clear my mind" and make them disappear by focusing and activating that weird "rush" I described in the second link, but now that rush feels "stuck", it partially activates but not fully, and there's this infuriating feeling of not being able to clear my mind. Like all these gunk sensations are building up, I never actually feel like they're real but they're extremely uncomfortable. It's bizarre.

i am not a doctor just some rando

schizophrenic/psychotic people can hallucinate and know they're hallucinations, they're not always blind to it

your pastebin says you have not tried any antipsychotics but you say you have? it would be worth a shot. if it doesn't help within a couple weeks i would drop it though, the side effects aren't worth it unless it helps

my schizophrenia manifested as if a pin that was holding my mind still, that i never new existed, suddenly dropped out and my mind was suddenly all over the place. at one point i was forming unwanted associations between mental states, memories, hallucinations, etc that manifested very much like the "blobs" of thought you describe getting mixed together. fortunately this state did not last.

however you describe a lot of things that i have no idea about

have you been screened for brain tumors?

>>33993903

The pastebin is from two months ago, I've tried them since then. Sorry for the confusion.

I have had an MRI and it was normal. Also had a few EEGs, doctors seemed to disagree on whether they were normal or not (hence the epilepsy diagnosis), but final conclusion seemed to be normal.

>>33993850
Unfortunately I can't relate to the specific buzzes but I can relate to the feeling of the brain being "far away" or feeling like reality comes back in rushes, classic dissociation / derealization stuff

all kinds of odd things helped me with it, the one that sucks the most and is the hardest but most effective is quieting the brain that's looping on it and not listening to it, walking home in a haze without worrying about the haze, or even noticing the haze, it's just your current existence is this right now

>>33993903
this is a long shot, but energy work / clearing the chakras regularly could be beneficial - i would not try confronting the blockage in your face at all though, just stick to the basics. it involves working directly with feelings of energy in the body, but this could be dangerous for you. if things get worse or the practice gets really intense, stop or slow down, don't be stupid like me and be encouraged to do even more, that will hurt you in the end

another possibility: you have OCD, and it's been a while since this started, your obsession about the blockage in your face could literally be the cause of the blockage in your face by this point. whatever original cause it had could be gone already. you know better than i do

>>33993771
Does your dentist use mercury fillings?
Because those describe your symptoms entirely.

You possibly may have PANS/PANDAS, yet it can affect adults? Did you have strep throat as a kid?
Do you know what Palmitoylethanlamide is? It's supposed to be good for neuroinflamation. So is helminth therapy.

Also you may have dysbiosis and leaky gut.

Also please go to a neurologist and get a brain scan done. not just an MRI

>>33993978
>but energy work / clearing the chakras regularly
IGNORE THIS FAGGOT
This is pure pseudoscience and will waste your time and money.

>>33993771
Ask chat gpd unironicaly

>>33994163

I have done this and haven't gotten much of a useful answer.

>>33994179
are you using the extended thinking version, its worth it

>>33994181

Yes I actually payed for it just for this in case it could help me. Tried putting in every variation of my symptoms, but it hasn't really come up with anything the doctors haven't already looked into.

I should clarify: first diagnosis was temporal lobe epilepsy, I took anticonvulants for 5 months and they didn't do anything, so the doctors changed diagnosis to neuroinflammation (like PANS/PANDAS). I've had a few inflammation tests that indicate raised inflammatory markers but the doctors say they can't be sure if that's the cause or if I just already had higher levels of inflammation before. Been given steroids and antibiotics for that and they haven't done anything either. All the doctors said they don't think it's psychosis, but I pressed them to let me try antipsychotics anyway and I tried olanzapine a few weeks ago and it also made no difference. Also tried benzos and oxycontin for the pain aspect but they didn't even make me any more comfortable.

Only thing that's made any difference is muscle relaxers, which sometimes bring me slight relief.

>>33994226
>benzos
get off that shit right away
it caused me permanent brain damage

>>33993771
You know a few years ago, I felt like sometimes I was going to randomly pass out on my feet and had pain in my chest.
A nurse (more like a country doctor really) diagnosed me with stress and anxiety, which i thought was stupid. But sure enough it was stress that was causing all these physical symptoms.
In your case, sounds like OCD taken to such extremes that you are causing a self induced mental breakdown.
For example, you get fixed on loops.
Example you end up burping which sets off a cycle of worse burping until you eventually throw up.
Your OCD could also be combining with something like functional neurological disorder to worsen your symptoms.
Why are you so fixated on the dentist?
Is this a traumatic experience for you?
I'm curious because I have a phobia of dentists to where I didn't go to them for 10 years. Eventually I got over the worst of it through repeated exposure.
I found I have a phobia of body modification.
So anything that would alter my body like a piercing, tattoo, or anything artificial like a filling artificial organ or joint repulses me and causes me body dysphoria.

>>33994106
>IGNORE THIS FAGGOT
He is complaining about energy in the body causing problems.
There are meditations that work directly with that energy. This is factual: I make no claims about what that subjective experience actually is, besides that said energy can cause problems sometimes. You can take issue with that last bit if you want.

>>33994243

No, no dental phobia at all. I wouldn't say I'm fixed on it in any way, other than that's when my symptoms started and it was very dramatic.

I've had OCD all my life, including some times when it was really severe and debilitating (such as when I was a teenager, and again during 2020-2021), so I know what severe OCD is like. It certainly has never caused me migraine, body pain, the kind of hallucinations I'm having now. As I said in the link, brief hallucinations during moments of stress, yes. But what's happening now is constant and I often see flashing lights, disturbing half-formed faces, and other scary shit throughout the day. It's like I can't look directly at it, I don't see it in the normal way, but it's also much more vivid than ordinary "mind's eye" visualization. Almost like I'm simultaneously seeing into a parallel dream world that I can't quite make out. And I really don't think OCD can cause that.

I honestly think it's "structural" anxiety or health anxiety. I have severe anxiety which caused an insane amount of physical and mental symptoms, including "depersonalizing" symptoms like you're describing. I recommend you look into ACT to "accept" your physical symptoms. I know it's hard to believe what you're experiencing is psychosomatic but I believe it is. there is an undercurrent of fear and despair to your writing. look into ACT.

>>33994292
>Don't listen to this faggot!
>Your problem is like, bad vibes, man
Holy dunning kruger

One important thing I tried to get across in >>33994223, is that it's not really so important to understand the details *relative to* how to get to the root of the issue and clean it up.
Like if it's caused by some bone being misaligned and can be fixed with massage therapy and 5 dietary tweaks that take two years to put together, then the content of hallucinations is totally irrelevant, and symptom management becomes something trivial you basically do ad-hoc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee0P0gwTyns

Like the root of the issue, if you look into it from the right angle it is between you and all the derivative issues.
So relatively speaking, looking at one symptom is total myopia. But even if you collect all symptoms, that is still missing the causative part of the issue; still myopic.
So that's very important to understand when trying to heal and prevent illness. It's what helped me when I had an issue with very unpleasant, sometimes disorienting images and sensations.
It's just a lot deeper and more "dilligent" than CBT, CBT has nothing on it. Rational and disciplined self-inquiry, not daily questionaires or sitting still staring at wall or magic breathing exercises.

(Much later I remembered a few developmental issues I hadn't been able to handle in time, and regarding which the medical system made signifcant progress in the intermediate decades.)

>>33994400
I don't agree with the psychosomatic angle because OP has obviously not received any significant medical analysis, just meds.
At the very least, x-ray scans and a proper analysis of them are blatantly missing.

>>33994400

I think it's totally possible that it's psychosomatic, actually. But I don't think it's health anxiety in the sense that I've never worried about health stuff (my OCD has always been about moral anxiety), and I was in a fairly good place in my life going in to that November 12th appointment, and then I just started feeling like this out of the blue. There wasn't any build up or warning, it really was like I just suddenly felt my body go warm and my mind descend into this psychedelic like state, out of nowhere. I figured all the symptoms were just a side affect of whatever they gave me at the dentist at first, and didn't really worry about them at all for like a week, until I realized they weren't going away.

So it could be psychosomatic but I think it would have to be triggered/perpetuated by something else. Also I was on a cocktail of benzos, pain killers, and epilepsy meds that double as mood stabilizers (lamictal and trileptal) for a few months, that should have knocked any anxiety out of me, but they didn't improve my symptoms at all.

>>33994414

I've had an MRI and a CT, both were normal.

>>33994419
Who analysed them and do you have your own copies? Did you analyze them yourself too?

>>33994422

I'm not sure who analyzed them, I've seen a few doctors and I guess each of them looked at them. I don't have copies myself.

>>33994416
a lot of what you're describing is similar to symptoms of depersonaliziation. it's self-reinforcing and doesn't have to be "triggered" by anything. anxiety, especially severe physical-symptoms, can be atpyical and not respond to drugs. given your history of severe OCD (which I also had) and given your current situation, I suspect most of what you're experiencing is severe physical symptoms of anxiety brought by an episode at the dentist which caused a change in your physical symptoms. I actually also had something similar happen, in a different situation, and my physical anxiety symptoms which were linked to a real physical "trigger" went away after intense self-therapy with ACT workbooks. if you're interested in my personal experience I could DM you on reddit or something

>>33994431
Alright, well. You can at least try to replace the muscle relaxant with massage therapy or equivalent physical therapy (I would suggest not going as extreme as chiropractics). May cost a bit more money but won't tax your health like drugs are guaranteed to do over time.
Then if that doesn't work (e.g. if you keep needing it) you can consider having someone look at your skeletal musclature and posture bc that's the place and shape of chronic excess muscle tension.

You should call the hospital for copies of those scans though, you already paid to have them made so you should have your own copies in case you want to show them to an expert of your choice later.

>>33994431
>reddit

>>33994406
you don't understand mental illness or psychosomatic issues at all

>>33994347
This is the strangest condition I have ever heard of anon.
I was reading your text and yeah there is a lot of OCD in there but I can't explain the other stuff.
I have never heard of any dental anesthesia causing the symptoms you are experiencing.
I still think this is something that could be psychosomatic.
You sure you don't have some unusual event going on like a tumor in your brain or a parasite? Could have even been a brain bleed.
You need to get ahold of those mri and ct scans.

>>33994622
If it was after the dentist, and the dentist used mercury, then I'm 100% calling mercury toxicity.

Get TESTED for this shit anon, you're stupid

>>33994625
also if you do have it, look into emeramide

>>33994625

It happened during the dental appointment, I first felt it right after they gave me the anesthetic shot although I can't be sure that's the cause.

>>33993771
Would you happen to know or can find out what anesthetic your dentist used?

>>33994638

I think it was articaine. At the beginning of the appointment she gave me a few shots of something else (lidocaine?) and it was fine. About half way through I said I was still feeling pain and she said she was going to give me an "extra powerful" one, and as soon as she gave me that shot that's when everything started; it was instantaneous. I think it was articaine. That's also way I say it's not about dental anxiety, before that I was feeling totally fine (even though I was experiencing a little pain), but as soon as I got that shot I felt all the weird shit start.

>>33996532
use chatgpt, explain your story with those substances, ask how it could have had those effects and how to reverse it?

also have you looked into cerebrolysin?

>>33993771
I wish you would just make a quick bullet list of your symptoms, but if you went to a doctor and they agreed epilepsy, I would honestly go with that especially because they have to do brain wave tests and stuff. I work with a lot of epileptic children, and they're not all like grand mal seizures. A lot of the time they'll just feel weird/have an aura, zone out or drop things, piss themselves, and then get real tired.

>>33996867

The doctors said epilepsy for the first few months then changed their minds. I'm not on the epilepsy meds anymore.

The reason I'm posting here is because making a list of my symptoms doesn't really capture it very well, I think it's more misleading than just explaining what happens day-to-day.

>>33993771
>>33993802
Don't listen to him.
You sound like you had a stroke or your damaged your frontal lobe, your nervous system is damaged or something. Perhaps the dentist's anasthetic highlighted an already existing condition. This is brain damage territory not take psychiatric pills.
Did doctors at least give you an MRI? What kind of tests did they run? Often doctors are retardedly stingy with tests.
I dunno, keep trying, don't stress yourself out thinking too hard. When you communicate symptoms keep it simple and straightforward, don't be repetitive or people will just think your are being neurotic and attention-seeking.
Disabilitymaxx, start thinking about how to get money and people to take care of you in advance if things keep going south.

>>33993771
Reading the second part, obviously you had big issues before going to the dentist. Not just OCD, and schizophrenia is not even a real disease, it's more like an abstract patchwork of symptoms. If you're peeing on yourself and can't see straight obviously your brain / nervous system has some real physical problem going on. I wonder if you fucked up your spine / nervous system bending your neck on your bed headboard on a regular basis. I don't want to shame you but it seems really stupid to keep doing that, like it should be common sense not keep putting your neck in a position where it not only gives you lasting physical discomfort but also makes you feel like your losing touch with reality.
Have they tested for multiple sclerosis?

>>33997108

Had a CT two weeks after symptoms started, and an MRI a few weeks later, both were normal.

Have you tested for Trigeminal Neuralgia? It can happen after dental work and be permanently debilitating without treatment. It's when the nerves in your face impede upon an artery.

>>33998328
yeah but he said he had symptoms his whole life prior to this

the dental thing just made it go haywire

OP you have lyme disease

>>33998943

Prior to dental work I would have symptoms kind of like this for 1 or 2 hours at a time. Now it's not just worse but also constant. It never lasted long before.

This shit is why I don't do psychadelics. I have a shizophrenic uncle, and I could not imagine being like that, it's a literal prison. Dont fuck with drugs, I know they're fun, the girls like them but holy shit you dont want to be an idiot walking back and forth in your moms basement your whole life on drugs mumbling like a retard.

I've been trying to make another recording that is a little bit clearer and better organized than the ones I posted, if I do I will post it here.

>>33999160

I have never done psychedelics, or any other recreational drugs, not even weed.

>I'll give another example of this. This is a bigger scale example. Before this happened, I was in grad school.

I've heard a lot of anecdotes about people going crazy in grad school/PhDs. suicides, mental breakdowns.
Were you under a lot of stress then? What did you study? how much debt do you have?

your pastebins read like textbook shizo rants. Sorry bro. get on some medicine.

>>33999176

I say in the post that I've been seeing doctors, I've been on medication this whole time

>>33999171

No debt, it was a funded PhD. Computational linguistics. I was in my first year so no crazy stress.