Shit, anons, not pitybait, just info - got bullied, humiliated, beat real bad growing up, zero self-esteem - so I've been trying to get a woman, get my first fuck (not as in putting it on a pedestal like OHHH GOTTA LOSE MY VIRGINITY, but just get A fuck) but SHIT girls are not giving me an easy time. It was easier in school, girls approached me on their own, but I had shit self-esteem and turned them down. I only acted 'desperate' on my first date due to inexperience, was aloof with others176cm, 56 kilos, good face, jawline, 23, decent clothes, haircut, no car, my own place (closer to the outskirts, makes women nervous to come)Anyway (different women):>date 1 failed spectacularly towards the end (I was retarded and the girl was an unironic whore who defaulted to seeing me as 'a friend' so I left, though SHE WAS interested, she just had these... weird power plays and shit tests and icks or some shit)>date 2 failed spectacularly AT THE VERY START FOR REASONS UNKNOWN (probably because I had a different haircut than in tinder profile)>date 3 actually didn't show upNow, at this point, I was feeling alright, you know? I'm learning and shit, etc, I wasn't feeling down>date 4 was a copy of date 1 except we legit had some hand contact but there was no passion or whatever - I think she expected me to kiss her or to push it - BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW AND DON'T KNOW WHEN, so she was like 'you know what, you're a good friend' - maybe because I look 'harmless', maybe because I didn't push, maybe because her pride got hurt and it turned into a 'who ghosts whom first''And in-between all these are about 20-30 tinder chats with different women, now I don't expect tinder to be some kinda guaranteed date thing, I realize it's mostly women farming attention and collecting pretty boys for later. Some ghosted, some fell off, but the... maybe 15 actual conversations I had, all of them did the>yeah, alright, let's go on a dateand then>insert bullshit reason to ghost
RAN OUT OF WORDSAnyway, anons, right now, I feel disillusioned and really have no desire at all to trybecase FUCK - I HAVE BEEN GOING TO PLACES ETC TO FIX MY HORRIBLE SELF ESTEEM, ACTUALLY WENT OUTSIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY TRYING TO SOCIALIZE, STARTED WITH SMALL TALK WITH BARISTAS AND SHITAnd anons, I'm so fucking tired. Talked to girls, too - had good convos, but damn, they all went to fuck some dude later, didn't they? In any case, what I mean is, right now I'm kinda crestfallen lads. I feel nauseous even thinking about trying to get more dates or talking to women. I don't even LIKE talking I really dislike socializing, and people, and have all these complexes and shit in my head - I was actually abused (not some twatter shit where retards looking for attention go 'duurrrr I was abused') - I legit had a shitty, narcissistic mother, got beat up at school and at home, got spit in my face, and even worse I don't want to talk aboutI don't even want to continue my socialization attempts - how do I proceed?Also forgot to mention this girl I met outside a bar - two girls, actually, we talked, hung out, she legit fell for me, even changed her status to my name with a heart emoji, we got real close, she smelled my neck under the pretense of her seeing what cologne I have, I smelled her back - I wasn't shy or flustered - but like we were drunk and she was with a girl friend, she told me to text her, liek she empasized thatI did - and got ghostedAnyway, this incident and date 4 kinda really fucked me up - it's just... pointless, like sisyphus' laborstringing me along to deny me last secondI'm not even desperate, was just trying to idk do what EVERYONE ELSE DOESI'm getting bitter anons, it was so much easier in schoolWHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
>>33994670>I smelled her backnot physically her back btw, I smelled her neck, getting real up close, and we joked about it
Oh, also - I realize it's largely likely because I'm a thin fuck - I am starting to eat more, and starting to work out again - I used to work out, but stoppedPeople don't respect you when you're built like a twig
well, for first stop whining, hope you don't do that in front of the girlssecond, find a common point between these dates and see where the spark was extinguished, robots are not clairvoyant, and you obviously did not do enough thinking and introspection to reach the conclusion
>well, for first stop whiningThis. Basically this entire post is an ick
>>33994724>>33994732I don't whine TO themI'm not even whining man, just venting here
>>33994807Either whining or a really shitty larp.
>>33994657maybe grow the fuck up and stop worrying so much.getting off 4 chan would be a good start.talk to them not expecting anything in return besides their friendship and if it ends up going there then it ends up going there. dont be going in with expectations tho.
>>33994854nah
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>>33994807>I don't whine TO them>I'm not even whining man, just venting hereIf you don't recognize that you're whining here, you likely don't recognize you're whining on these dates.
>>33996103retard, I 'whine' here because I can, because it's anonymousand yes this isn't even whining, this is me venting on an anonymous forum, where I can do it without looking like a pussy in real lifeif you can't recognize that, then you likely can't recognize that you're autistic
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