>What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and Bookshttps://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamhttps://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.htmlhttps://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating(new suggestions with working links are welcome)REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Prev: >>33986089
>>34006534Anyone here ever been in a situation where you found out you have a fundamental values clash with your partner, and if so, how did you handle that?I was seeing this great girl and everything was going fantastic - she was super interested in me, we had fun dates, great physical chemistry, and we just loved talking with each other. Then one day (and I forgot how this happened) we got on a topic about gender/sex/trans etc., and it turns out her and I have very different perspectives on this.She was distant for a few days after this then finally sent me a break-up text, basically citing that we were fundamentally incompatible. We had a nice exchange of messages and we're on good terms but romantically it's over for now.We'd been seeing each other for just over a month. I can't help but think that maybe if we'd had the discussion a few months later, like after she had gotten to know me even better and when she was more attached, if she would have been more willing to compromise on her values. For context, she has a lot of trans/queer friends and this has resulted in different ideas of how her and I would raise kids, plus I think she probably felt like a hypocrite dating someone she saw as transphobic when she has trans friends.Anyone here experienced this?
>>34006540What are you even looking for here? You got to know someone and realized you weren't a good fit. That's what dating is.
What's the most foolproof way of finding out your looksmatch? I genuinely do not know if I'm attractive or not.
>>34006534how do I meet older women that use imageboards as a younger guy? This is for serious dating, not hookups>inb4 socit's all attention whores that have no intention of dating. Half of them (especially the older ones) are in relationships and just looking to soft cheat on their bfs
>>34006601are you tall?if so you are attractiveif not then you have to have>experience with women>confidence from having experience with womensince you're not sure, then it's a given your face is just passable and nothing specialso you will have to grind dates with mid women until you have unshakeable confidence
>>34006633reddit
>>34006540just don't get to topics that are controversial until you're sure that she loves you so much she doesn't care what you think /aggree to disagree or will adopt whatever viewpoint you have
>>34006653I said imageboard usersreddit and tumblr users are insufferable
>>34006647>are you tall?I'm 172cm>if so you are attractiveSucks but that's the way things go I guess>if not then you have to have>>experience with women>>confidence from having experience with womenI was a complete chud shut-in until like three months ago.>since you're not sure, then it's a given your face is just passable and nothing specialI think my face looks good now but it feels so narcissistic I don't trust it>so you will have to grind dates with mid women until you have unshakeable confidencesee, this is the thing, I cannot tell who thinks what about me. people stare at me in public, but also I could just be neurotically looking all over the place for someone accidentally looking my direction. I lost my virginity and have had six hookups over the past few months, all after being approached by women I thought were too hot for me to talk to, but they've all lost interest basically immediately and act weird about it after. People tell me I'm good-looking, but in that sad way you tell the retarded kid his macaroni self-portrait looks great.Literally all I want is just for some unbiased observer to spell shit out for me, anon.
>>34006540You broke up over trannies? That's really fucking gay anon.
>>34006731only way to know if a girl is interested is if you ask her out she agrees or once you're in a date when you go for physical escalation (hand holding, kissing, hug, etc.) and she doesn't flinchSo there's no surefire way to know if you're attractive or notSome objectively ugly guys get hot bitches, so what is attractive is not just looksif you are passable you are fine.Besides looks, for a girl to find you attractive the girl must believe>this guy fucks girls>he is comfortable around girleither you fake it till you make itor you get out there and ask all types of girls out
>>34006601Don't bother with that nonsense
>>34006534>see woman>find her pretty>walk to her (no overthinking. just go. yeah you'll feel like a dumbass at first, it's normal)>introduce yourself>make a couple compliments( outfit / smile / etc)>small talk>make a couple jokes>ask for her numberthis is actually easy. start with women who don't get a lot of attention for increasing your chances of success (too many rejections will burn you out)you should be smiling, respectful & non-threatening.
Any advice on meeting kinky women? Had a recent sexual experience with one and gave me a huge awakening. Things are over between us and idk where to meet more people like that.
What's the best resource for basic looksmaxxing?Since I have no marketable skills I'm realizing the only way to leave the Permanent Underclass is to become a boytoy for an old rich woman, so that's what my plan is for now.
>>34007958I posted this on the board and most advice was to use fetlife so I guess it's best to start thereThough something tells me 90% of the people there are dudes
>>34008067Lift weightsBuy nice clothesWear subtle makeup
>>34008067>BodyStraighten out your posture and you’ll look taller and more confident (chest out, shoulders back, etc.) Get to 10% body fat through diet and exercise. You don’t need to look like a bodybuilder, just don’t look doughy or weak. If you’re already tall that’s great. If not, at least you’ll have an easier time putting on muscle.>GroomingGo to an actual hair stylist that will do consulting so you can get a haircut that suits your face and hairtype. They’ll know what hair styles will actually improve your appearance. Shave regularly or put in the time to groom your facial hair so it’s neat. Shower regularly. Use moisturizer and sunscreen on your face. Find a cologne you like and wear it out. Use mouthwash regularly.>ClothesStart with a few basic items that properly fit you and are well made. Stay away from slim fits, baggy clothing, and loud colors/designs. You can go cheap for basics like t-shirts or underwear but invest in high quality clothing for shirts, pants, outerwear. Once you’ve built a few outfits that you like start experimenting with different pieces or items you like.
>>34008859>You can go cheap for basics like t-shirts or underwearDon't cheap out on underwear or socks.
I know this chad type of dude who gets confident with women quickly, he touches them in a joking way and they just go with it. It seems like that type of interaction instantly makes them feel more connected with you if done right. How do you do it without being creepy? Being kinda socially stunted I've always been wary of being touchy with women and somewhat so with men too.
>>34008976>How do you do it without being creepy?being attractive and committing to it. both are equally important.
why does it feel like there are difficulty grades for getting with women? seems like fwb requires considerably more social experience than just getting a normal gf, or an ONS is harder than a fwb, maybe.Has anyone found a way to gamify (not PUA) relationships?
>>34006601I have two hints personally, underage girls tend to stare at me, some to the point of boring a hole into my soul, actually pretty uncomfortableAnd two, in any social media argument or fight no one ever comes after my appearance
>>34007949>make a couple compliments( outfit / smile / etc)Adding to this, make this part natural and weave it into normal conversation, opening with a compliment in the worst case may have her feeling dehumanized, and also never compliment appearance, they hear it all day every day, you do not want to be just another number, compliment something that she herself had to do or take an interest in
>>34007949>>34009125You say it easy but for guys who don't know what to say it's not. I'd be a wreck doing this and go completely blank
>>34009137And obviously I wouldn't even do it in the first place due to anxiety
>>34009137I never said it was easy, I had to work on myself for a good 5 years before I got to this point, and I'm still so socially stunted there's more work to do. The journey never ends anon.
You ever notice that church girls don’t date at church
>>34006534spit me game, im new on the market and have no rizz whatsoever because my sense of humor is too chronically online and I'm a hoe scarer
>>34006540we broke up cuz she was a fag about everything and incompatible
>>34006534Where can I/ how can I meet women at 27M? All I do is lift and work, no one goes out on the weekends, I’m at a loss on how to date when I tried dating apps to no avail and I’m not really around any women
>>34009383Are we talking tiktok humour or 4chan humour?
How can I tell if I’m my female friends backup plan? I don’t want to be
>>34009645If your female friend isn't your girlfriend or wife you are the backup
losing interest in dating for the simple fact every woman is a zogbot feminist with no ideias of her own. They literally all sound the same and have the same interests and boss girl ambitions.
>>34009545definitely more 4chan adjacent (I know how to hold this back, but then I sometimes don't know what to say)
>>34011277they are kinda retarded unfortunately, but so are we. if men did better, women wouldn't rely on liberalism and the state to take care of them. this being said, women are natural consumers and expect they will be taken care of by someone or something so they can't really be expected understand much. That's why there are so many videos of girls crying in their car for tiktoks after they realize how bad they fucked up
