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>>34008279
Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.

>>34008318
this was a blogpost nigga how tf u helping me nigga
yes life is a nightmare, but I am mostly fine with things and I have suffered enough I don't really care
what I do care about is having energy and motivation and being able to execute my will and things, I feel like I am fucking handicapped and can't control my own mind or body well enough to get things done, constantly lacking things
I am not sad in any essence

>>34008279
>pushing 40 years of age my libido has tanked and completely abysmal
Sounds normal enough to me. I'm mid thirties and my libido slowed down too. I had diagnosed ADHD + on meds. Hate to break it to you, but the meds won't save your libido either.

It's just life being life my man. Women have eggs & a sex drive. Men got sperm & a sex drive. Teens and twenties hormones are in maximum overdrive to make the two meet, instinct demands breeding, even if your conscious mind is just orgasms + no kids, your unconscious instinct doesn't care. It doesn't give a shit what you want or don't want. It will keep pushing you to fuck fuck fuck so you can make kids kids kids.

Then you get old, your hormones dial down. For men right around mid thirties to 40s. Your body assumes you had the kids and now you don't need such a high sex drive. If you are at this point in life and you didn't pair bond + have kids, you're shit outta luck.

You could tamper with your own hormones and take test and pump your body full of artificial drugs to lengthen the libido. But you will have to accept increasing your odds for cancers, heart diseases and hormonal fuck ups and possibly mental issues for the trade off.

If you want to naturally get that sex drive back, you'll need to pair bond and do the unthinkable and emotionally connect with a woman in a meaningful committed relationship. Good luck

>>34008416
stims not being for libido, it being to help me unfuck my life and be more productive
nicotine who is proclaimed to be a soft adhd drug is fucking shit does nothing, caffeine is near tier placebo but works but barely with tons of side effect

>Life being life
yeah I guess I will hop on TRT then life like this is fucking absymal Idk, need to lift and fix my diet and lose weight again too

>hormones are in maximum overdrive
yeah missed developmental window, it's over
at this point there is no attraction, novelty, shit women are mid at this point level due to this state

>and possibly mental issues
test is supposed to fix your mental issues though not fuck them up

well guess you are just supposed to shrivel up and die at this point and just become low energy low t boomer decrepit fuck like old boomers whos life ended

guess modern medical intervention is not the devil after all maybe, TRTmaxx+STIMMmaxx might be the way, cause this is gay

>>34008416
>you'll need to pair bond and do the unthinkable and emotionally connect with a woman in a meaningful committed relationship.
how am I supposed to do this with zero motivation to talk to women due to low t along with zero life development due to no energy/motivation to get a basic life in order (money, job, education)
more living than dead

>>34008455
>more living than dead
more dead than living I mean

>>34008451
>Stims not being for libido, it being to help me unfuck my life and be more productive.

In that case yes they can help. They won't unfuck your life, (you) do that yourself. The stims give you the clarity and focus to help you do that. Best way to describe stims is: 'Its like getting a pair of glasses, but for the brain."

>Nicotine, caffeine
Yeah those are stimulants. That's why you are addicted, you are unconscious self-medicating your undiagnosed adhd. Your brain demands constant dopamine because your brain:s pre-frontal cortex is deformed and underdeveloped. That's what ADHD means, it's a physical condition for the brain. Your brain holds onto dopamine about as efficiently as a geriatric bladder holds onto piss. Dopamine goes in, dopamine goes out. And you constantly try to fill it with nicotine and caffeine. They're shit stimulants. The proper ones do the job much better.

>Need to lift and fix my diet and lose weight again.
That'll sort itself out once you get a proper life. By that I mean once you pick up responsibilities, whether it's a career or a family. You will have to use your body a lot to do shit. You naturally get in shape and adhere to the diet because you will have to in order to function. I wouldn't worry too much.

>Missed the development window
Yeah so did I. That's because you are an ADHD your life path will never resemble a normie's, till the day you die. Good news is, this is preferable and though you will never be normal you can become better than normal. Trust your own life's pacing, it will pay off.

>You are supposed to shrivel up and die.
Nah, fight and live. Its not going to be easy, it is extremely hard and brutal. But you will develop the fortitude and the constitution to do it, you can become strong in places where it counts the most.

Play the hand you got dealt. You'll figure out later you had more cards in your hand than you realized. You'll see what I mean. Focus on treating the ADHD first.

>>34008469
good post. I want to add that some adhd meds can ruin your libido even more unfortunately. but the feeling of control over your life is worth it.

>>34008483
>good post. I want to add that some adhd meds can ruin your libido even more unfortunately
Thanks, and yeah I've heard. Some of them spike it high, really fucking high. Vyvanse 50mg specifically for me made me the horniest I'd ever been in my entire life in my late 20's. Hornier than even my teens. It wasn't as pleasant as it sounds it was too much and irritating and genuinely uncomfortable living that way. Thankfully it balanced out after a year of taking meds.

Losing libido ain't a big deal, honestly. I still get hard I still have sex with my wife. Only difference is now my mind does it out of a place of oxytocin rather than dopamine. I hate to sound like a corny mother fucker, but I make love instead of making fuck now. Both are sex but one is a different ball game. OP can still have sex just fine but it'll be on a different 'frequency' now. A more relaxed, peaceful and slow one. I honestly prefer it to my horny dopamine youth days of meaningless fucking.

>>34008469
>Yeah those are stimulants.
I know and they are near placebo tier level
I try nicotine for the memes but it's usless and dog shit does nothing only makes me feel sick, never used it really
>caffeine
used for decades obviously, also kinda shit honestly, depends in what form, coffee becoming worse and worse as I age, gotten more sensitive to bean compounds, headaches and so on
pure caffeine is better
honestly less anxiety and whatever being completely caffeine free but maybe placebo that too
but extreme tiredness day to day whatever one chooses
more crashes with caffeine though

>you are unconscious self-medicating your undiagnosed adhd
conciously doing it, but it's trash and placebo tier, I can cold turkey caffeine np and there is almost zero difference

>Your brain demands constant dopamine because your brain:s pre-frontal cortex is deformed and underdeveloped.
allegedly

>And you constantly try to fill it with nicotine and caffeine. They're shit stimulants.
only caffeine, trying nicotine but it's also ass
seems you shared my sentiment about shit tier though

>The proper ones do the job much better.
I considered sending a self remisall to get checked for multiple times, actually should have done it over 2 years ago, procrastinated the past 6 months now too, wonder if it's worth
after that wait 1-2 years or whatever in the commie waiting list until being assesd, I'm running out of time next year I should realistically start uni or something, we will see
not paying for (or I would If I was desperate) private assesment but it costs like 5k or some shit
so just have to cope
also considering the possible downsides of having legit disabilities or not, wondering if it's worth the upsides and downsides

>That'll sort itself out once you get a proper life
nah already did it before without any problem
>whether it's a career or a family.
I already have job tier responsiblities and have had, that just wastes your time and energy
would not count on that

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>>34008455
>how am I supposed to do this with zero motivation to talk to women due to low t along with zero life development due to no energy/motivation to get a basic life in order (money, job, education)

Easy.
How are you supposed to eat when you don't have any appetite? You wait until you get hungry. When you get the proper treatment for your undiagnosed ADHD, you will be hungry as FUCK. Hungry to live after a life not living. Do not worry about how you will do those things. Know that you will do them once these opportunities are revealed to you. And the sooner you get diagnosed and then given the meds, the sooner you will start to 'see' those opportunities. And you will jump on them like a hound, trust me.

Step 1 is focus everything you have at going from undiagnosed to actual diagnosed. Start searching for practices or clinics that specialize in ADHD that offer a diagnostic service. Once you are diagnosed, doors of treatment start opening in your life. Follow it through, step 2 is treatment time. More doors open up, more opportunities more and more you'll devour the shit out of those opportunities. You'll look back only a few years later and see how quickly you thrived.

I went from a deadbeat lazy loser with no job no wife no kids no home of my own to getting busy getting employed getting my own place getting a girl getting married and became a dad all in a matter of just 2 - 3 years after I begun treating my ADHD.

Heads up for that btw. The rate at which you catch up is blindingly fast so be prepared for it lol

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>>34008469
>hat's because you are an ADHD
allegedly

>Trust your own life's pacing, it will pay off.
idk seems pretty shit tier so far, many people with handicaps that have gotten assessed are doing fine and well off though nothing related with being mentally retarded like this, way more important other aspects

>Nah, fight and live.
every rich boomer is on a cocktail of hormones and other copes though so I guess that is the way

>Focus on treating the ADHD first.
yeah brb 2 waiting on the commie list while I will through some uni degree out of sheer willpower while being mentally tortured though the way due to not hopping on my fucking waiting list sooner enough

more stims don't seem to help though it did not make me more productive, still stunlocked at my inability to execute things during certain things

maybe actual stims will help maybe not, maybe it will still be retard more but focused but no clear way to do anything

I fear my problems might be purely mental then, even worse if so genuinely

btw I percieve myself as having 0 disability in day to day and doing what I want, it's just to maximally do slave labor and retard tasks that require will then maybe it's a problem

I fear this won't be solved either

>>34008614
I am already self improoving out of sheer necessity without any medstims but yes everything is at a snails pace
I am just wondering if it would be optimal to stim and if it would help that much
idk just hard will everything right now but it feels like there is way too much friction for every decision that needs to be made regardless it's literally insane, there is 0 percent this is normal functioning behavior that everything would require that much will power to execute
I don't mean everything though I do tasks just fine just slave work or some studies
idk anymore

>>34008594
>Allegedly.
Nah, certainly. If you mean the reality of the brain deformities, it's certain. For your diagnosis? Sure it's not proven by diagnosis yet. But just because it's not been diagnosed doesn't mean you don't have it. A man with ADHD who goes his life undiagnosed is still a man with ADHD, just undiagnosed.

>not paying for (or I would If I was desperate) private assesment but it costs like 5k or some shit
Go private. I promise you, it's worth it. Yes it's a lot of money, but trust me its better than dealing with public healthcare. Not sure where you live, I am in UK. I waited on that 'commie list'. A year. I got 30 mins assessed on a video call by a boomer female nurse. She said and I quote "I don't think you have ADHD. You could focus on this zoom call just fine." & "I think it's because your parents drank alcohol in your childhood." ???? Wasted my time. I went private, and I got assessed over a whole week. Very thoroughly. Even got tested for autism and bipolar as part of the assessment. (I tested as having neither.) But I tested absolutely overwhelmingly positive as having ADHD inattentive type.
Private did this in a week. Took public a year to even entertain me for 20 mins and feed me bullshit. (Free healthcare services look for ways to dismiss you so they don't have to pay for your meds).

Paying private was the best investment of money I made in my life. That money came back to me through getting my shit treated and ability to go to and enjoy work

>>34008659
>I am already self improoving out of sheer necessity without any medstims but yes everything is at a snails pace

Listen brother, it's not just the snail pace. It's the snail strength as well. ADHD fucking sucks when it's untreated. It can be so bad, that remembering to check e-mails feels like you just ran a marathon, mentally speaking. Everything you do costs your cognition 200% more than a normie's. That's the bottom line.

You ever played a video game that has idk, a stamina bar? And you run or sprint and you see that bar dropping? And you gotta wait to regenerate that shit? Everyone has that, mentally and physically.

ADHD mental stamina bar depletes x10 quicker than a normie's. And takes x10 longer to refill. That is the plain and simple truth. Everything that normies do is x10 harder for you. Living feels like drowning.

The meds give you the oxygen tank. You go from drowning to being a fucking scuba diver. All your potential comes out, potential you probably had doubts even existed within you. And it's within you, it just needs that extra lube to get the gears turning.

>>34008669
>But just because it's not been diagnosed doesn't mean you don't have it.
that was the point

>Go private. I promise you, it's worth it. Yes it's a lot of money, but trust me its better than dealing with public healthcare.
I would if I wasn't poor and I was in a rush since public healthcare sucks yes but I'm not dropping stacks just to get jew pills prescribed
no I don't have the money either

>I am in UK. I waited on that 'commie list'. A year.
yeah sounds about right or even more I guess since an adult now, like I said I should have dealt with this thing long ago but I also forget it from time to time and wonder if it's even worth

>I got 30 mins assessed on a video call by a boomer female nurse. She said and I quote "I don't think you have ADHD. You could focus on this zoom call just fine." & "I think it's because your parents drank alcohol in your childhood."
lol
yeah public healthcare is so fucking trash holy fuck

>(Free healthcare services look for ways to dismiss you so they don't have to pay for your meds).
even if I get a private assessment here taxpayers would still subsidize my meds, have to double check, but I'm pretty sure
else it's fucking alot, probably, maybe

Agreed it's all shit, still not paying 3,5,8,10k or whatever
I don't have it, as a student boomer
I barely can even pay fucking rent

>>34008687
>Everything you do costs your cognition 200% more than a normie's. That's the bottom line.
that's what it feels like yes, at the end of the day, not even that, by 4pm I am completely cooked, being social from 8am
literally no energy

>>34008416
test doesn't cause cancer dude. sorry if you're afraid of needles but you need a different excuse

>>34008546
Absolutely disgusting.

>>34008279
>do I really need to hop on test to solve this situation
Yeah sound like classic symptoms but you're probably also deficient in a ton of vitamins and stuff. See a doctor, do blood tests, there's no point discussing this shit, blood tests will show you exactly what you're lacking and a doctor will prescribe that shit to you
t. late 30s, spent the last year eating vitamins and using t after I ran the tests with my doctor. Much better now but don't expect it to change your personality or anything

>>34008851
>even if I get a private assessment here taxpayers would still subsidize my meds, have to double check, but I'm pretty sure
else it's fucking alot, probably, maybe

They call it tritation, if your diagnosis comes from a certified legitimate psych clinic, you can take the diagnosis and the public health sector has to recognize it as official. Then public healthcare takes care of the meds. That's how it went down for me, I didn't have to pay for the meds after diagnosis. The point of going private is to bypass the waiting list and the shitty unqualified 'psychiatrists' public health sectors have. 9/10 times it's not even a psychiatrist they put you in touch with, usually a 'psychiatric nurse'. Aka someone with no actual expertise or qualifications

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not OP and while I pretty much stopped watching porn except for the few vids and pics I have saved and barely feel the urge to jack off more than once every two week, I still go to bed and wake up with a hard dick.

I did also go from fat NEET to getting a job and sleep schedule and then eating healthy & working out and then putting muscle over the last few years.
I weighed like 235 with the worst skinnyfat belly, trimmed down to 180, and now I'm around 215 and it's mostly all muscle.

Getting my energy and motivation and life back really started with just walking away from the computer and doing literally anything else even if it was just going for a walk for an hour. At first I was barely able to walk for like 20 minutes and was constantly aware and ashamed of my fat fuckin skinnyfat belly bouncing around.

>>34008907
Oh and also testosterone doesn't have to be an injection, you can do just fine using one of those t creams, that's what I did, they won't turn you into a t monster but they will bring you from low t to mid t and that's all you really need.

>>34008912
>The point of going private is to bypass the waiting list and the shitty unqualified 'psychiatrists' public health sectors have
yeah I know and I don't think they send you to such a place after a fucking long ass waiting time
last time I was at such a place was when I was young (and quit) so not sure how they do it for adults

I was thinking of sending my note in so I can wait for this garbage a long time ago now again (due to starting classes again)
now I'm most likely underperforming as always, might still do regardless though, due to this and it will effect me

>>34008921
lifting decreased my libido and resting and recovering increased it even more
now it's terminally dipped to all hell

>>34008927
I'm not a medical professional endocrinologist but those seem like a scam

>>34008279
blahblahblah yeah we all know you’re just mad you can’t RAPE anymore. Stay castrated moid.