So I'm a fucking monster. About five years ago I cheated on my girlfriend by sexting an intellectually disabled woman for a couple nights before coming to my senses. I confessed, lost everything, my friends and my family want nothing to do with me (justifiably). Since then I've been kicked out of my BJJ gym (an ex friend talked with the head instructor about what I did), was fired (another friend went to my manager with what I did), and I went from an apartment to a very cheap sublet room. I think it's justified, all of it, but I need to stop wallowing and do something decent with the rest of my life. I'm already volunteering, but still wake up most nights guilty, comparing myself to a rapist or a paedophile. How do I move on?
how old was the intellectually disabled woman
>>340117803 years younger than me at the time. I was 25, she was 22. We met on a dating app, and I was pushy in my requests for nudes and whatnot.
>>34011772You should have killed yourself a long time ago :)
>>34011772Well, you should feel like shit; but wallowing in guilt is the easy option, and you don't deserve the easy option. What you should be doing is getting out there and doing good in order to ATONE for what you did. Every moment you spend wallowing is a moment you're *not* doing something good.
>>34011817So what would you recommend? Like I said, I'm already volunteering and trying to do good.
>>34011772>>34011772Why would your friends and family abandon you for something so benign? My mate cheated on his missus with her ex (she is bisexual) and I didn't give a fuck, I said he was stupid and helped him through it, but I didn't walk away.I don't see why family should care so much either, are you not telling us something here?
>>34011823Nope. I'm basically telling you what I told them. I sexted an intellectual disabled woman I met on a dating app, was pushy, it lasted for one (maybe two, my memory is terrible) days before I came to my senses and stopped. I revealed it 5 years later to my now ex because the guilt was killing me. It's despicable because the woman was intellectually disabled. I completely see why they cut me off.
>>34011829Disabled how? If you met on a dating app, she was obviously able to consent and join in, and was looking for romantic engagement.
>>34011839She had autism and was definitely not as intelligent as I am. She had a job (menial, cleaning) and was looking to move out from her parents place apparently. But she also received disability payments from the province.
>>34011772The other day something happened to me that might be of use to you. On a whim I went to church having never gone before. During the whole thing the priest said, by the power given to me, all of your sins are forgiven. What a relief that was! Though, I’ve never done anything nearly as messed up as what you did, but I think it could help you by being forgiven by God first and then working on forgiveness from your friends and family.
>>34011845I do need to start going to church, but if there's one thing I've learned from my friends and family it's that they rarely forgive for transgressions. I will likely never see them again unless they catch wind of me taking part in some activity and feel the need to inform people that I'm a predator (well my ex-friends would, my family were just disgusted).
>>34011772You were an idiot and an asshole. But a monster? Come the fuck on. Give yourself a break with that bullshit. I tell this to you as a man who was cheated on as well. Cheating is the asshole's game, the cunt's game. My cheating whore ex is a bitch. But I'd not sit there and call her a monster and I sure as shit wouldn't go and fuck up her entire life just because our relationship was shit. The world doesn't revolve around relationships. I've met monsters real monsters. Like my grandfather, that was a monster. Didn't just cheat his wife, my grandma. Beat his kids senseless, all of them. My uncles, my mom. All of them. Knocked teeth out too, broke limbs. When my uncle got in an accident and was burned to shit in a fire incident as a teen. Grandad hated him so much he visited his bed in hospital and deliberately punched, hit, and gouged at his burn wounds just to see him scream. That's a monster.You got horny and hit up a legally consenting adult woman on a dating app. Intellectually disabled my ass. She was smart enough to install an app and communicate to strangers. What was the so called disability? Autism? Because last I checked it's legal to fuck them. You hurt your ex and she decided to hurt you back to spite you that's what happened. The only thing you deserved was the break up. Everything else was overkill.
>>34011850No, she was definitely less intelligent than I was on top of being autistic. I believe she was able to consent, but I can't be certain. She received disability payments despite having a job as a cleaner. I also believe she wished to move out from her parents place. Either way, I don't disagree with their assessment of me as a monster.
>>34011772Bullshit!
>>34011856Why do you think it's bullshit?
>>34011852Did she say she had autism or aspergers? Depending on whether she was a sperg or full blown autistic, this isn't a problem anon. Unless you led her on with the promise of a relationship, she's able to communicate and consent. More insulting that you think its bad honestly, maybe check yourself out on that
>>34011852Autists aren't as incapable as you think. Autists receive disability yeah, but so do adhds, so do ocds, so does anyone with depression. Hell people with leg injuries claim it. Claiming that shit isn't a marker for intelligence. And autists arent these helpless vulnerable creatures. For fuck sake mate the wealthiest man in the world has that same disorder, Musk.You can be absolutely certain she could consent because she was an adult. Autism does not affect this matter. The only thing autists struggle with is communicating their own desires in a way that's obvious to non-autists. She prob installed the app because she was genuinely looking for love. She didn't know it's a hookup culture. She wanted to fit in and not be rejected, so she obliged your demands for sexual shit. Yeah it's sad and all. But autist women arent the only people doing this. Normie women do too. Most women do that, they act sexy to get the guy interested, they oblige his sexual desires to get him to fall for her. It's been like that since day 1 in humanity. Nothing new. Autists are just more obliviously blunt about it.Go ahead and call yourself a monster then. Punish yourself needlessly because you broke your GFs pride and her egotistical vengeance arc ruined your life. That's how to you. But it's a big waste of your fucking time. You already paid your debt, you lost the relationship. Don't lose your sanity over it.
>>34011866She did say that she had autism. I then stalked her Facebook after ending the situation and discovered she was both receiving disability payments and described herself in posts as 'intellectually disabled'. And no, there was never any promise of a real relationship. I approached her with a fwb arrangement, she agreed, then I was pushy about swapping nudes/sexting which we did. Shortly after I stopped everything and blocked her after coming to my fucking senses.
>>34011859It is all too great to be true.
>>34011866It's also important to note that I had talked to her for about a year before this. I fully understood that she was less intelligent than me. I did not pursue anything because she was less intelligent than me, and explicitly shut down mention of a romantic relationship but was willing to talk to her/be her friend because I felt it would be wrong to do anything with someone of her capabilities compared to mine. Then I went fucking insane for a bit and approached her like I did.
>>34011883Too great? What do you mean?
>>34011869She was definitely less intelligent than me though. And communication was also not her strong suit. I mean on some level I get where you're coming from, but at the same time decent people don't do what I did. They hold themselves in check. I didn't.
>>34011887You keep using that word "less intelligent than me. It was comparable to rape because she was less intelligent than me."The fuck glass dick are you smoking? Dumb people can fuck smart people and they often do all the time. You never heard of "gifted child" syndrome? It's when an autist with 130+ IQ is a complete social fuck up and when you see them IRL you don't see a successful genius, you see a neurotic and broken down asocial fuck-up. Still smart still 130+ IQ, but they learned real life isn't school and college the hard way. For all you know she was smarter than you for fuck sake.
>>34011878Fucking hell mate, whats the fucking problem here? You were honest about what you wanted and so was she. Is she not allowed to post nudes because you deem yourself superior or something? Thats pretty insulting. Think you are fixating on the wrong aspect here, the real problem here is that you fucking cheated, thats why you are a "monster". Stop redirecting your guilt. There are plenty of stupid fucking people out there that aren't officially disabled and you at least feel bad about it. There are people out there raping kids while you gave someone a fucking chance, get over it man. Repenting means being genuinely sorry and you are, just be better and don't fucking cheat. Simple as
>>34011843Autism isn't rare, she sounds like a normal person, not a dribbling retard. Why would your family abandon you?
>>34011899>Communication isnt her strong suit>Therefore she is less intelligent.Story of every autists life. The claim they are dumb because they don't speak like normies. The people who hounded you for it have no fucking clue what autism is and apparently neither do you. Why are you doing this btw? Flagellating yourself before others and whipping yourself like a dog for public opinion?
>>34011852My friend gets disability payments for ADHD and is a lazy bum on benefits, doesn't mean he's a retard without the ability to consent. This woman clearly was able to aswell.You saying she was 'less intelligent' isn't an argument either, some people are less intelligent, some are more, that's life.
>>34011909You're absolutely correct that the cheating was an incredibly shitty thing to do, but when it came to everything I lost the focus was really on who I did it with as far as my ex-friends/family were concerned. The cheating is also something I immensely regret, don't get me wrong, and I've been in therapy to make sure I never repeat that again.>>34011908In her case she was definitely not a secret super genius. >>34011915She wasn't a dribbling retard, but they expected better of me. My sister screamed at me until she was red in the face because I "took advantage of a vulnerable woman."
>>34011916It wasn't just the communication. Trust me, intellectually disabled is a more appropriate way to describe her compared to autistic. She could hold down a basic job, and that's about it. If I could compare her in terms of intelligence to anyone it'd be my down syndrome cousin who works at McDonald's.
literally why would anyone ever have friends
>>34011916As for why: I have a tendency to spiral and feel the urge, semi frequently, to confess what I did. I figure an anonymous weeb website is as good a place as any, and far better than doing so to the few people I have some amount of a relationship with now (who I had met after the events described originally).
>>34011944It's nice when they stick around. Just don't make the choices I did.
>>34011772You should be taken out back and shot like a rabid dog.
>>34011772least barbaric moid:>>34011843... was she actually intellectually disabled? autism isnt intellectual disability. they are completely different disorders. autistic people aren't children.>>34011909>whats the fucking problem here?he's a cheating scumbag, but then, so is every moid who has the opportunity.>>34011930intellectual disability is a diagnosis. it's not a fancy term for a jackass or girlfailure
>>34012186She was on disability, and used the term to refer to herself in Facebook posts I found after the fact. I believe that she is diagnosed as intellectually disabled (while also being autistic, because yes, they aren't the same thing).
I see a lot of people telling OP that he didn't really do anything wrong; but if he's lost all his friends, been disowned by his entire family, been kicked out of his gym, *and* been fired from his job over this, there's clearly rather more going on here than meets the eye.
>>34012289I'm trying to give as accurate an account as possible. They feel very strongly that in approaching the woman I did, in the manner I did, I took advantage of a vulnerable person in a sexual manner. That's what they told everyone, and I didn't dispute that assessment.
You fucked up in both senses. Not only did you do nothing wrong but your entire social group sounds like a bunch of immature teenagers. I guarantee they have all done something worse in every sense of the word and they all just shrugged it off. The reason they are throwing you away is because you are weak and they see you as a liability. You made it effect them and in turn they threw you away. They wouldn't care a bit if you told them with confidence, but you told them in shame as if you did something that will come back to hurt them. They don't care if you hurt someone or yourself, but you made it seem like what you did will hurt them and that's all they care about. That's also all you should care about as well. You've finally learned that adult life is purely transactional and not a single person cares about you. Remember that next time you do something "bad" and you'll understand that it's ok to exploit people, specially those beneath you.
>>34012537Fuck you. What a load of horseshit.
>>34012537Nothing wrong? Are you insane? I cheated on my girlfriend and did it with a woman I really, really should not have. Everything I did was completely unacceptable to most reasonable people.
So we are going from "being ableist is BAD" to "slightly mentally disabled people are basically children you pedo"? Burgers are hilarious.
>>34012592That was 5 years ago and you got fired from your job for it. Do you think cheating on your partner is grounds to get you fired? Let alone something that happened in the past? Literally if you didn't tell anyone you would not be in this situation, and why are you in this? Because you keep thinking what you did was going to come back to hurt you or others, even though for 5 years nothing happened. You Literally did nothing wrong in any sense other than morality which you are more than free to argue about the nuances of. But for 5 years nothing happened till you broke down and claimed you did something horrible and would effect other people other than yourself.
>>34012617But it was awful. No one deserves to be with a fucking cheater like I am. She deserved to know. And it wouldn't have effected other people, it was something incredibly shitty I did.
>>34012651Nigga no one cared but you and then you convinced people to care. You think you're the only one to cheat or do something bad? I'm sure you've done worse than fuck a retard behind someones back. Literally never fucking care about anyone but yourself because just like this has proven they don't give a shit about you in the slightest. Even after you came clean and begged for help and forgiveness what did they give you? If they actually cared for you they'd forgive you, not fucking hit the nuke button on your life.
>>34012670Yeah I agree with this. I hate cheating, it's scum behaviour. I said earlier ITT I got cheated on as well. Back when I got cheated on, when I was young and stupid, my impulse was to tell everyone how much of a poor victim I am and how much of a devil my ex was. People always assume that it's an easy good Vs bad shit. That the person who got cheated was an angel and the cheater was a devil. It's bullshit. And I bullshitted myself back when I was cheated on. Did I deserve being cheated? No. Did my ex deserve the slandering and mob hate? No. What I should have done was keep my business to myself and lick my wounds and heal with dignity. Instead I was prideful and merciless.People don't talk about that shit enough. So called victims of cheating turn into vengeful dark twisted and bloodthirsty people with not a shred of mercy in them after they get cheated. No forgiveness and no mercy, it's fucked up.
>>34012670Well, I didn't fuck her either. I sexted her, swapped nudes and explicit texts. That, and I think this is actually the worst thing I've ever done. And I wasn't owed forgiveness. What I did was fucked.>>34012696It is scum behaviour, and if nothing else she deserved the truth. Maybe I didn't deserve to have my life nuked, but what happened happened. Tbh I'm more sad about the BJJ gym than the job. I miss that environment.
>>34012186I'm sorry you were molested
>>34012696You're still missing the point. You where the victim and your ex did desver it. But I guess how did you find out about it? Did she tell you or did you find out another way? Let alone the cheating didn't matter or effect anyone till someone made it seem like the actions would effect someone othet than themselves. Cheating is wrong, but unless it's actually going to hurt more than the parties at bay then it's not a real issue to care about. The only reason why people care is because they think it will cause them trouble in their lives. If it doesn't cause trouble then people will not care.>>34012720You sexted a retard 5 years ago and that means you deserve to be fired from your job and lose your family and social group? Should you also be hung for that time when you stole candy as a 5 year old? In those 5 years did the retard come in and start fucking with anyone? You admitted to a crime you didn't commit in the slightest and made it other people's problems. That's what you did wrong. You convinced other people that your actions would effect them when in truth it would not have. I had the same thing happen to me last year and while I regret it, I also don't because if your family and friends actually cared and understood you they would have forgiven you and helped you out. Instead they cared about their own social standings than you.
>>34012839Maybe I didn't deserve forgiveness. Maybe I deserve to be ostracized because what I did was fucked up. Maybe they deserved to be informed of the person I am rather than the person they thought I was.
>>34012862>Maybe I didn't deserve forgiveness. You do.>Maybe I deserve to be ostracized.You don't>because what I did was fucked up.It wasn't that fucked.>Maybe they deserved to be informed of the person I am rather than the person they thought I was.Not really.
>>34012888It was. It was fucked up of me. It was awful and unforgivable. Why don't you think so? All else do.
>>34012980They only do because they think your actions are going to effect them. For 5 years your actions did nothing to them. Then tou freaked and convinced them that your actions will effect them. Did your actions effect them? Are they dead? Did they lose their job because of your actions? Is CNN shaming your family because of your actions? It's a fucking nothing burger. You felt guilty over nothing and you got people involved who have nothing to do with what is going on in your life. If you just told your gf you sexted someone 5 years ago behind your back do you think she would have fired you from your job and make a lynch mob? You did that all yourself over something that happened 5 years ago that no one knew or cared about except you.
>>34013003I don't think so. I think they kicked me to the curb solely because they don't want to associate with someone like me, who did what I did. I don't blame them for that. How would my actions otherwise effect them?
>>34013036Exactly. How would they effect them? Why did you tell them if you didn't think your actions didn't effect them? You told them because you felt that you sexting a girl ment you where hurting them. You convinced them you hurt them and that you might hurt them again in the future. You have yo answer as to why you felt the need to tell them that and if your actions would have done anything to them. Which since it happened 5 years ago and nothing happened it's safe to say you're just being neurotic.
>>34013058I told them because I told my ex and told them the truth about the situation, that she was blameless, that it was on me. I think I did the right thing no matter the consequences.
the only things you really did wrong here were:1) being on a dating app while you have a gf2) telling anyone you did anything, why the fuck would you do that? the consequences are much greater than just living with the temporary guilt - you didn't even physically cheat on her.you've been conditioned by women to believe what you did was way worse than it is in reality.
>>34013036it's basically fucking nothing, get over yourself dude
>>34013110I wasn't on a dating app. I started talking with her around the same time I started talking to my girlfriend. I kept in contact with the relationship just as friends because I wasn't comfortable with dating her based on how I perceived her level of intelligence. Then I lost my fucking mind one day (long story) and contacted her. The rest is as I described.
Did you suddenly start feeling guilty and confess 5 years later? Sounds like real event OCD, OP. You're catastrophizing a mistake you made into the worst possible version of it, which is understandable because the Internet is full of schizos that do that every day to everything. The best thing for you is to do good not to "attone" (because this is just the same cycle of self hatred, and you'll never be able to attone to satisfy your obsessive guilt) but because by realizing you were wrong before, you have a chance to be a better person now. Exposure and Response Prevention could probably also help you a lot
>>34013175I pushed it down for a long time, and it all came roaring back thanks to some other circumstances that made me evaluate if I was a bad person or not. And then yeah, sleepless nights and replaying it over in my head again and again and again. Unable to eat for a while. That being said I don't know that it's OCD.
>>34013197Replaying it over and over isn't what normal people do. They feel guilty when they think of it, but it isn't an obsession. And people who have trauma try not to think about it at all. What you're doing by replaying it over and over is searching for certainty that you aren't bad (or that you are) or find a way out of being stuck with the anxiety and panic that the situations causing you ie. "Was she able to consent or not, did she understand what she was doing or not, did I prey on her, did I ruin my ex's life, do I deserve to be around people". But there's no certainty to ever find. >I don't know that it's OCDAll OCD sufferers say this and desu it doesn't matter if it is or not at the end of the day. Being able to accept the uncertainty and say "yeah maybe I'm literally Epstein, maybe not" and then refocus on your present life is the most important thing for you to be able to do now. You might enjoy listening to some Eckhart Tolle too, idk
>>34011772Feel zero guilt. First off, autism is not an intellectual disability. It does not make you stupider. It simply makes your left hemisphere of the brain dominant, which results in being more logical but having poor social skills and emotion management. Secondly, you shouldn't have confessed. Some secrets are only for yourself. You are the only one you can truly trust. You could've chosen to keep it to yourself but chose honesty and they abandoned you, they are the cruel ones, not you. Put yourself first from now on.
>>34013279She definitely had an intellectual disability beyond her autism.
>>34013247The uncertainty is what kills me. I deleted all messages between us a long time ago. I have nothing I can go back and check.
Women are whores so idk why you are feeling bad in the frist place. Your gf has probably cheated on you a million times already.
>>34013396I love the idiots on this site sometimes.
>>34012614i think those are two different groups. A LOT of people think that autism is a type of intellectual disability, so there's an idea that fucking an autistic person is predatory. really dumb, and pervasive enough that it gets applied to autistic moids.>>34013396projection. moids always talk about being "Simple creatures who only want food and sex"all moids will cheat if they have the opportunity
>>34011772>5 years ago>cheated by sexting>couple nights>confessed>family and friends abandon you>friends talks to your manager to make you lose your job>still feels bad about itnigga you just had a moment of weakness and even confessed your small sin to your partnerand even tho what you did was microscopic they went out of their way to ruin your lifesorry but the real victim here is you the punishment you deserved was way smaller than the one you gotthose guys weren't friends they were niggers in friends clothing i hope they get ran over by a truck stop feeling bad about that shit seriously man there's a huge number of torturers that deserve way more but got less than youat least you got rid of all those fake pieces of shit out of your life
>>34013932But she legitimately had an intellectual disability. At one point she took part in the Special Olympics (which I found out about later).
>>34013989It was who I did it with, anon. A woman with an intellectual disability. I really am a monster.
>>34013993you're not a monster the monsters were the ones who ruined your lifedon't feel bad about it just forget it and move on
>>34014002How am I not a monster? I exchanged sexual pictures and texts with a vulnerable woman, and in doing so cheated on my girlfriend.
>>34011843Well, you sound super retarded so if you’re smarter than her, then she must be really disabled.Why don’t you find her and start a new, retarded life with her. Post her nudes so we know you’re telling the truth.
>>34014026Fuck you.
>>34014014not saying you're a saint but you're definitely not a monster>I exchanged sexual pictures and texts with a vulnerable womanonly for a brief period of time and you didn't physically abused her>doing so cheated on my girlfriendyou still confessed and broke with herjust forget it man these people really fucked you up if you think you're still guilty after all those years and everything that happenedthis is my last response you seem hesitant to believe me and only you can save yourselfare you really gonna keep beating yourself over atomic tier levels of wrong-doing that happened half a decade ago and destroyed your life entirely?
>>34014041I appreciate it anon. Still not sure I believe you, but it's good to know I'm not a monster to everyone.
>>34014034No u
Bizarre thread. The only thing you did morally wrong was cheat, which it was barely even cheating, and some people wouldn’t even consider it so.You consensually exchanged nudes with an adult, an adult who I guess was stupid, and then you deleted the nudes and stopped talking to the person.Such a nothing burger. If your family can’t forgive you they’re probably more autistic than both you and the girl that you were texting, and in general seems like a shitty group of people to hang around.Your own self guilt is bizarre. Get over it. Normal do way worse shit in life without even blinking. This happened 5 years ago and you’re losing sleep over it? Talk to a priest and say your 10 hail Mary’s and then move on.
>>34014260Damn, is the Catholic guilt that obvious?
The real question is how hot was she? Do you have pics?
>>34014468Not at all. I wasn't attracted to her. I lost my mind for a bit.
>>34011772>How do I move on?First you need to stop telling such blatant lies on the internet.
>>34014587I wish it was a lie. I wish any of it was.
>>34014635>my entire family disowned me because I sexted someoneDude, get better material.
>>34014970It happened. I took advantage of someone vulnerable and they said they were disgusted with me.
>>34015611Well your real problem (if this story is true) isn't you thinking with your cock and dicking down autist girlies outside your relationship. Your real problem is the fact you were raised by some psychotic perfectionistic family that excessively demands perfection, yet teaches nothing, and then brutally punishes you for the crime of failing. Find better people to be around if you want to be a better person. The sad twist to the story is if you had actually gotten serious with that modest anxious autist chick and chose her to be your girlfriend, you'd have been better off.
>>34014475>I was t attracted to her>Even though I lost my mind to her, and was compelled to pursue the fuck out of her and my instincts craved for herWhy do you lie to yourself?
>>34015766No I lost my mind for another reason. Long story. Basically I wasn't attracted to her and pursued this out of a desire for self destruction. At least that's the conclusion me and my therapist arrived at.>>34015759I didn't even dick her. It was nudes and sexts. And no, I wouldn't have been. She was intellectually disabled, not just autistic.
>>34015921Get a new therapist. Better yet stop paying for therapy, you don't need to spend $100 and hour to some neurotic weasel to figure out your own actions and motivations. "Desire for self destruction" the fuck lol. Your ex-gf, was she (you)? Your autistic paramour, is she (you)? Your mom, is she (you)? Your siblings, are they (you)? No? Then how in the name of fuck does their anger towards you count for self destruction? (You) are you. And you made choices. Those choices had very easy to discern motivations. Destruction was part of it, but self-destruction is a gay cope. You cheated on your ex because you couldn't stand that relationship. I don't know what or why that was, but you do. Something about your ex and that relationship was suffocating you and you acted out. Your ex wasn't as nice and lovely as you tell yourself either, look at how she acted after you acted out. She methodically and ruthlessly dragged your life through broken glass just to make sure that your entire life was broken beyond all recognition. That was the type of person you dated and chose to call 'girlfriend'. That demon was in her and you knew it and deep down that weird contradiction of her personality ate at you and you looked for the fucking exit. But you were too pussy to break up so you tried to have your cake and eat it too, you wanted the benefits of having a new girl to try to love and be loved by but none of the responsibility of facing a hard break up. That's what happened. Seriously stop paying some quack to gaslight you out of knowing your own instinct. It's a waste of money and time
>>34015963Nah. She was lovely before this, genuinely. As for what happened exactly, I had a medical scare and was convinced I was gonna die. I acted out because I hate myself and wanted to prove, on some level, that I was really as broken as I've always thought myself.
>>34015975>Nah. She was lovely before this, genuinely.In her actions maybe. But as a person inside in places you didn't see? Guess again. Your cheating revealed that part of her, you're an idiot if you willingly ignore that. Doesn't make your cheating right. But it does show you exactly who she was, she just kept it very well hidden. >Medical scare made me wanna finally prove I'm broken.And you couldn't know that intuitively? That wasn't obvious already? I'm not sure if anyone told you before but everyone is broken. If you find me one person who claims to have never been broken in this life, I'll find a liar. Every one of us is broken. Me, you, your vengeful ex, that autistic chick you gooned to, everyone ITT. Everybody. What separates the functional from the dysfunctional is the functional know their own weaknesses and limitations, they own it, and they find ways to live with it. Anyway hating yourself is gay. So is loving yourself. So what now? You are broken so what? Question is: what are you going to do about it? And don't cop out and say 'hate myself' or 'kill myself'. Give yourself a real answer.
>>34011772>horny guy gets a bit pushy for nudeswe've all been therewhy the hell is this a problem? the retarded woman should not be in a position to get solicited for nudes anyway>I confessedyeah well you're a dumbass, that's your main problem
>>34016005It's one thing to know it intuitively, it's another thing to get someone whose whole business is thish to help you work through it and confirm that, yeah, this is what I did. I find some valeu in it even if you don't.>>34016008I refuse to blame her. She didn't do anything wrong here. I did.
>>34011843Based on your posts here you're definitely less intelligent than me. So would it be rape if I fucked you?You sound like you've been memed into thinking you're Ted Bundy over something and nothing, not helped by the reactions of everybody other than your gf, who obviously did have a right to feel aggrieved by the breach of trust.You need to stop beating yourself up and get on with your life.
>>34016202>It's one thing to know it intuitively, it's another thing to get someone whose whole business is thish to help you work through it and confirm that, yeah, this is what I did. I find some valeu in it even if you don't.Sure. All I'm saying is if you take a pen and a piece of paper, and you write down a dialogue with yourself, like this:(My thoughts): I think I am broken(My feelings): Why is that? (My thoughts): Because of X happening or Y happened.(My feelings): And I felt this about it. Why do you think I feel this way? Split yourself into two personas. Thought & feel. Make them talk to each other. There you go, you just saved thousands of $$$ by replacing the therapist.
>>34016259Again, she had a genuine intellectual disability as I described elsewhere in the thread. And if it's not as bad as it was, why did everyone leave me? Why did they look at me with disgust and anger and hatred?
>>34016373>And if it's not as bad as it was, why did everyone leave me? Why did they look at me with disgust and anger and hatred?Because they were merciless. We have a word to describe it nigga, it's not a mystery bro lol. In case you haven't noticed, the one virtue that the modern world has run completely dry if is 'mercy'. It's the rarest commodity to the point it may as well be mythical. They all did that because they do not know what mercy is. It's that simple mate, don't lose sleep over it.
>>34016386Maybe you're right. Fuck.
>>34016475>Maybe you're right. Fuck.Good, now the gears are turning in your head. What happened to you was not normal, it was fucked up & it was overkill. Normal sane people who get cheated on get angry, maybe viciously arguing or demean their cheating ex over an angry phone call, but that's it. Actual psychotic vindictive pieces of shit go above and beyond and ruin and destroy the cheater's life just to feel satisfaction for the pain it causes. You cheated yeah shame on you. But you happened to cheat on a psycho. And that psycho ruined your life for the sake of feeling joy. You were the bad guy who got devoured by something even more wicked than you are. That's where you are at. So finally get it through your head: You fucked up, you did wrong but you are not a monster. You are redeemable, you can and should forgive yourself. And the people who buried you and threw you under a bus never had your back to begin with. Fuck em.
>>34016475>>34016493Oh and if you struggle to digest my 'psycho' remark when describing your ex, and your impulse is to defend her and say how lovely she was. Know this: Psychos are not bad people on the surface, they never are. They are the most lovely and nicest people you will ever encounter in your life. Then the mask falls off, then you see exactly what kind of dark horrific face was hiding behind it the whole time. Cheaters? Yeah they're dark little souls alright. Worst case scenario it's a bee pee dee or heccin' narcissist. Psychos? A whole other order of wicked that make cluster B retards look like child's play. They the bright and lovely looking souls that hide what they are with a big shining light, no one sees em coming. Anyway think on what I said, and forgive yourself for fuck sake lol
>>34016566Well she was angry. Furious even. But the people who went and talked to my BJJ coach/my manager were mutual friends, not her. She had no affiliation with them/my job. She just didn't talk to me afterwards really.
>>34011772This is a mashup of like 2 or 3 of the LARP threads we’ve had on here the last few weeks, this is an LLM post. Stop replying.
>>34016858Nope, just my life.
>>34016852Look up the term "flying monkeys".
>>34011772It's not so much what you did but that you would tell everyone you did it. You won't be able to keep a secret or sensitive information with anyone who knows this. How about shut the fuck up about your personal life or potential crimes you committed unless it's to a therapist or lawyer you are talking to.
>>34016858oops OP KYS
>>34017106I don't think it was a crime. I think se could consent. But I still feel like a predator.>>34017117It really isn't an LLM mashup. It's my life at the moment.>>34016988Not seeing much. Care to elaborate?
>>34017275>Not seeing much. Care to elaborate?"Flying Monkeys" is the name for people in your friend group or your family group who have been convinced by someone else to berate, harass, and mentally fuck you up. They get told by someone, typically a narcissistic psycho, to hate you. Your group gets convinced how evil you are and the egotistical manipulator deliberately conjures evil images and character attacks on your name to make sure everyone you love turns on you. The term "flying monkeys" comes from the Wizard of Oz, little flying monkey devils who do the bidding of the wicked witch of the east. THE WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST, BRO. Sound familiar?
>>34017300Huh. Well. Okay I might need to think about this (and bring it up in therapy which, yeah, I get you don't like but seems to help me). Thanks anon.
>>34017369No problem. Just make sure your therapist stops running the script that what happened to you was "self-destruction". You didn't spread the word to your friends and family to assassinate your own character, and you know that. If your therapist shrugs that important fact off, then you got a shit therapist. Good luck.
>>34017478It wasn't my telling them/being punished that was self destructive, just to clarify, it was pursing the woman I did in the way I did. She honestly agrees with you that the whole response was disproportionate.
>>34017504Disproportionate is a mild way to put it. You got fucking crucified my man. You hung around with some real whack-jobs. Not sure if you mentioned you were catholic or not earlier, but do forgive yourself. The whole point of accepting God's forgiveness is you accept it and acknowledge it by forgiving yourself. Otherwise you just pretend God's forgiveness means nothing by refusing to forgive yourself. Ask your therapist how to achieve that, self forgiveness
>>34017532Thanks anon. I'll keep on trying. Appreciate the counsel.
You're a fucking monster OP. Die. Also this never happened.
>>34018124It definitely happened. It's my life.
why does he care about these random angry feminist fascists that have doxed and stalked himhonestly the potato chick should murder anyone talking shit to her man.i didnt catch why op broke up with potato? the EULA cant be that cucked.
>>34015759this lolalso i have a intellectual learning disability, and my dick dun care
>>34019861I never even had a relationship with her. It was an exchange of nudes and explicit texts.
>>34011889Big.
>>34019887yeah you should've just had a relationship instead of listening to all these guilt trips who are actually just jealousyou did nothing wrong by the way and the only pain that you feel is contradiction because you want to win the approval of the crowd
>>34019940I certainly did wrong when I cheated. There's no question about that. And the woman was intellectually disabled which I still think was pretty abhorrent of me to approach her.
>>34020006Was she like actually mentally retarded, or did she have some fake mental thing like autism, asperger, adhd, depression, etc.?
>>34020071She was definitely mentally retarded. She had a job (menial, she was a cleaner), wanted to move out from her parents place and was looking for apartments, but I found out later through her Facebook that she was also on disability payments. We met on a dating app a long time before I approached her as I did.
>>34019898Yuge.
>>34020236Jesus okay that changes a lot OP. You took advantage of a literal retard. You shouldn't be allowed to exist.
>>34013989>cheating isnt that badmoid moment. moids can never be "lonely" enough
>>34020931what even is a moid? doesn't even seem like OPs ex was that bad. breaking up for cheating is reasonable.
>>34011772If you were a woman, no one would care and everyone would gang up on you.
She was mentally disabled on a dating app which isn't your fault, most people look for sex on dating apps and even if you were pushy towards her that was five years ago and the friends you had definitely took it too far. The cheating part was awful but there's always more people to meet and friends to make. Family should've supported you through the way and it's actually so weird that they didn't. Being guilty does nothing to solve your issues and the only way you can keep going is by finding a way to be happy. Personally, I've never cheated though I've done things that I regret and can never ever take back. Eventually the guilt will consume you and all you'll end up doing worse. I've been there and a lot of people have. People morally aren't good or bad. Most people do terrible things throughout their lifetime which is why you can only ever set higher standards for yourself. Usually I don't comment on 4chan but reading your thing made me feel awful because things shouldn't have gone as bad for you as they did. You already got your karma and this isn't something worth being depressed over
>>34020979I know. What I did was fucking disgusting.
>>34021002I dunno. A lot of me feels like I deserved everything I got. I miss BJJ, I miss hanging out with people, I miss playing ttrpgs. I also don't live in the biggest city so I'm fearful of seeking out new things to do/groups to join because I have the feeling that things are just gonna come up again and I'll be ostracized all over again.
>>34021002But also: I appreciate it anon. One day at a time, I guess.
>>34020993posting again here, in some years you will realize its not that big of a deal or rather- even if you made a mistake, the people and the ex girlfriend enjoy crucifying you. There are women who stay and obsess over the same guy who cheated 100x. I don't think youre a "omonster" or even if you are, be aware they are trying to kill you and enjoying it. Let me know ur discord if u want
>>34021083You're not wrong. I think I did the right thing in telling her no matter the consequences.>>34021095I mean I don't blame them for feeling what they feel.
Hi OP, I cheated on my gf who was SPED and I just broke up with her instead of telling her I left her for another girl. Then, that girl broke up with me, so that's all. Now I deal with double the breakup and now everything is back in order. It's hilarious how this thread has so many replies.
lol, this entire thread, lmao even. >sage in all fields
>>34021083OP didn't do rapist kinda shit, the fuck anon?
You know maybe the boomers were right about some things.Like taking these things to your grave.
>>34021834I think letting her know was the right thing. She deserves better than me.
>>34011843Hannah was exploited but if she has a right to get dicked down like everyone else.
>>34011772This is the most retarded thing I have ever read. When I was 16 I dated a 20 yo woman with brain damage.Who the fuck caresPeople with intellectual disabilities can't be sexual beings? This is utterly retarded.
>>34022119I didn't dick anyone down.
>>34011772Holy moly, your family and the people around you are bigger assholes than you.
You're fucked.
>>34011772Lol you gave everyone so much ammo. First of all, it's not justifiable if she was sexting back. So she couldn't have been that damn slow. So what realllllyyyyy happened. All that over some sexting?? Anyone who treated you bad over that is a true, thorobred piece of walking shit. And they probably know it which is why their tryna dog you over some stupid shit that ain't even any of their business or concern. Why the fuck would you be fired from a fucking gym over sexting?? Df. You weren't wrong at all. Fuck your ex. If she made you happy you probably wouldn't have been sexting retards. But ayye that retard prolly had some fire too. LOL.
>>34022119she's unironically one of my favorites
>>34011772I'd move, cut the whole community off. Cornballs. I woulda smashed the slow chick and got with her.
>>34011772Why would you admit that? But this story sounds fake anyways because gettng fired and banished for cheating (not even sex, just sexting) seems absurd
>>34011772Exactly, you move on. Change city maybe even country, forget about old friends and family, find a new place to start anew.
>>34011772That's fucked up bro. Sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that. Maybe from your wife but that's it. Not your family or job or anything. They shouldn't have even known about it. What happened was exactly what your wife wanted. You shoulda just got with the slow girl instead. That's the only way you woulda had any justice. Just get someone else that makes you happy and be happy. That's the best revenge. They know they were wrong deep down...
>>34023611That's what happened. They were horrified that the woman in question was intellectually disabled (Or, if you prefer, retarded. She had a job and was looking at moving out from her parents place allegedly but idk how true that was. I don't think I fully clocked that she was intellectually disabled vs just autistic when we talked.).>>34023638Because I felt horrific about the whole situation. Disgusted with myself. My ex deserved better. And maybe it does seem absurd, but I think what they told people was that I abused a retarded girl. Which is what I worry happened despite what I believe was consent on her end. >>34023693Nah, I deserved it. Or if I didn't then I feel like I did.
>>34022119Who? What?
>>34023722That's not even what happened though, she was just autistic, nothing wrong with that. You're an idiot who fucked your own self by inflating the severity of your act
>>34024194No. I stalked her FB and found that she described herself as intellectually disabled. She's also a member of the special Olympics. Literally retarded, and I didn't see it.
>>34024284Jesus Christ OP I think you're the retard here
>>34024678Nah OP should be shot.
>>34011772WHAT THE FUCK
>>34011772This thread is making me kek lmfao. OP, get the fuck over yourself. If you're Catholic, you're committing a massive mortal sin by looking at yourself as "unredeemable". Read Augustine's Confessions. Better yet look up Alessandro Serenelli. That shit's evil, yet he was redeemed. All Judas needed to do to be the greatest of the Apostles was to genuinely apologize. So you sexted a random down syndrome girl while you were dating a woman. She didn't deserve it. That's totally on you. Everything after that is on the people around you. You're a human being. I have empathy for you. I wanna buy you a beer. We could honestly be bros. I've fucked up in different ways that were just as bad (trust me) and I'm only 24. The worst thing a person can do to another is to curse them, and that's what they did to you. Love them, accept it, and move the fuck on. I'm half convinced you just want pity. I believe it happened. But I think this thread is likely disingenuous. No one, and I mean no one expresses this amount of self loathing unless they are very mentally sick. I've only met a couple people like this in my life, and they need help beyond what anything I've ever seen can give them, it has to come from within. Practical advice? Leave. Pack up the most minimal shit you have, get in your car, and drive somewhere you've always wanted to go that's at least 500 miles away. Make money with doordash, and live there in a hostel or your car for a month or so. Do whatever the hell you want, just don't sit here. What makes life so great is that we can yearn, strive, improve, and achieve "divinity" (sainthood). We can fuck up, and get up again and again. There are only 3 things that can stop you. Yourself, severe illness, and death. Don't let the first one get you, because the other two will come one day.
>>34026973Speaking of catholicism and religion and self hate and all that, the funny thing is >No one, and I mean no one expresses this amount of self loathing unless they are very mentally sick. I've only met a couple people like this in my life, and they need help beyond what anything I've ever seen can give them, it has to come from within.You just described Martin Luther. Dude had extreme scrupulosity.
>>34026973In all honestly I am quite mentally ill. Suicide attempts in highschool, severe self loathing, etc. my therapist wants to get me to a psychiatrist so I can get on antidepressants. I appreciate the words. And I don't really want pity, I did genuinely want advice. I don't have a car, but a train ticket isn't that expensive.>>34027005Well if I have one thing going for me it's that I'm in interesting company.
>>34027433Forget the mentally ill part. You are lucid enough to know your own actions lucid enough to articulate them. Yeah I know how the whole suicidal ideation/brain fog/dissociation/mind prison works, I was locked in my own miserable brain chatter for decades and almost took my life a few times too. I was "mentally ill" for at least 15 years straight. Age 13 - 28. Three months, three fuckin' months is all it took to sort my head out. What changed? I got far the fuck away from certain individuals who dragged me down, most of them family who I loved with, others some shitty so-called 'friends'. The minute I broke away from that and met better people was the minute all the self hate and suicidal brain fog shit magically starts disappearing. I didn't disown my family I still visit still keep in touch. But with boundaries & a strong network of my own that I fall back on. Give it consideration. I promise you mate, find a place to get far away from what you know for 3 whole months. Find a retreat or someone somewhere you trust who lives far away, go be there and watch all that 'mentally illness' shit melt away
>>34027891You make fair points. I may give it a shot, but honestly I'm kind of on my own here. No one I trust really. Thanks anon.
>>34027433you shoulda killed yourself op no excuses youre a monster
Fucking hell OP.
I've done worse and forgotten about it, why the fuck are you sniveling?
some kind of new antichrist bait :/fuck all of you retards and fuck the mods for letting this fester
>>34029382wtf is antichrist bait?
>>34011772I don't see why you should care at all what your "friends" and family think if they abandoned you. They were not friends to begin with. If you were a woman with an intellectually disabled man, they'd call you stunning and brave. They are shunning you because society hates men. What you should do, is lie in wait outside their homes and kill each and every one of them for causing you five years of anguish
>>34030329The fuck is wrong with you?
>>34030346The fuck is wrong with you, to allow such people to live? >>34027891You should have killed them for goading you to suicide
>>34030410I don't think anyone tried to goad me into suicide. I think they wanted nothing to do with me, justifiably.
the pain you feel is justified, as are the actions of those who left your side. be better, anon. i wll pray for you.
>>34030311>wtf is Antichrist baitHe's probably angry that a majority of people here identified that you were victim of something despite being a cheater. They call others Antichrist for believing in mercy lol. Which is funny because it's antichrists who are zealous and have zero mercy for sinners.
>>34030734I mean I don't blame him for having no mercy, what I did was pretty abhorrent. That being said, I just don't get why it's bait.
>>34011923Your sister sounds dumbMaybe she's projecting
>>34030757Eh? I mean I get it. I'd rather be screamed at rather than the awkward, furious silence my parents gave me.
>>34011772I dont think youre a monster.I think you have weak will, and also sound low IQ.But Ive met people worse than you. Dont be so hard on yourself. Be an appropriate level of hard.
>>34030754>I mean I don't blame him for having no mercy, what I did was pretty abhorrent.Ah well it don't matter because I'll blame him for it, and I have the right to do that because I used to be an antichrist myself back in the day. I know how the prideful zealous mindset works lol. It's the merciless types of 'nice guys' that make this world unbearable and do more damage to this world than all cheaters combined. Because if they truly cared about helping those who fail be human they would treat them as humans and not monsters. And when all the world does is target someone and tear them down and call them a monster, then all they will keep getting is monsters. Fuck 'em. >I just don't get why this baitBecause they think your thread attracted antichrists or something.
anybody here ever hit the miyagi tech tree?>old and lonely>coach some lonely kid life advice to cope with not having a child
>>34030802Nah, not Miyagi tree coded myself. But I respect the shit out of people who go down that path. I just tell people the shit I wish I had known back when I made similar mistakes.
>>34030802I still wanna be Daniel most days
>>34011843That's fine. You just cheated.
>>34030880I still wanna be Johnny Lawrence. Cobra Kai Dojo did nothing wrong.
>>34011772You are a monster because you blocked her afterward, and you call that "coming to your fucking senses". You irresponsible fuck. The sin is not using the girl but dropping her afterward. You deserve to get shot. A man uses women as he pleases, but he takes care of them.
>>34030914I still vote for OP should reach out to the autist girl and apologise and maybe strike up a meaningful relationship with her and ride off into the sunset happily ever after. Would make for a cute story.
>>34030930>>34030914I really did try and apologize after I told everyone what happened, and I agree that blocking her was really shitty of me as well. Unfortunately when I unblocked her I wasn't able to add her on anything, FB/Insta/etc. I think she might have blocked me in return (that or her settings are such that I can't add her because we share no mutual friends).
>>34030950If she really was an autist, chances of her blocking you are close to 0%. Chances of her deleting her socials instead close to 100%Autists are too chicken shit to block people, even proven liars or malignant, because if their hyper empathic neuroticism. They don't wanna be 'mean :(((' so they don't block. They're too afraid of being seen as a bad person, they're afraid of public perception like a person with rabies fears water. Which is a lot btw, a LOT. So they usually just catastrophize and meltdown and wipe the slate clean by removing all their socials instead to slink away and withdraw form society to lock their wounds alone.
>>34030972No her socials definitely still exist. I just can't add her. I wish I could. She deserves an apology.
>>34030981Then she's set that shit to private and disabled non mutuals from adding. Autists are like that too. Their way of dealing with social trainwrecks is "once bitten, twice shy". They get dinged or ouchied just once and they go into hermit mode.
>>34030989I figured as much. It's unfortunate, but honestly it might be better not to actively remind her of all of this.
>>34030914Also, came to my senses in that it fully dawned on me how shitty I was acting towards my gilfriend and this woman. Don't get me wrong.
>>34031200You're a piece of shit. Full stop.
>>34032482Kek
>>34033905Top, even
>>34011772I think you’re insane for feeling so bad considering how long ago all this happened and for not doing anything wrong really. Your girlfriend probably never loved you and you never really did have true friends if this is what they did to you for sexting.