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Why is it that the straightest/most disciplined guys so often seem the gayest/least ambitious?
I have one friend with zero muscles, photography as a hobby and he talks to more women than I do, another one who likes cat memes on instagram and plays video games on steam 24/7 and he has a girlfriend and actually knows how to study, another one who unironically watches anime and he has a management position at a car factory already, another one who gets himself involuntarily cucked on a regular basis and still has had more sex with hot women than me...
I'm an underachiever compared to them and even though I also have friends who are regular chads, I'm really more mad at the fact that there are guys who use discord and anime profile pictures who are better at "getting after it" than I am
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>>34037524
Stop comparing yourself to others.
Why are you obsessed with tracking your male friends sex habits.

>Why is it that the straightest/most disciplined guys so often seem the gayest/least ambitious?
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean considering you then go on about how your friends are having lots of sex. Are you saying you're "the straightest/most disciplined" because that's the gayest shit I’ve read in a while.
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>has hobbies like photography and shit

Here's a fun fact anon, women find nerd hobbies hot. If you keep talking nerd to them they eventually crumble (trust works 100%) (probably only works on goth women) (don't be disrespectful to them tho)
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>>34037553
>The gayest shit I've read in a while
Yeah yeah
I mean there must be something more to it than me being a self hating homophobe
I didn't even mention the annoying roommate who talks like a child all the time but looks like Schwarzenegger next to me
Or the guy who wants to become a fucking teacher but always wins any type of game against me or gives me advice on how to motivate myself
It feels like all of these people should be inferior to me but they're not
>>34037566
Good for dudes who have a passion for bullshit, I don't have a passion I only have procrastination
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Or that fucking chad who mogs me in muscles and skills and went to our country's equivalent of Oxford
Only to say shit like we should all be communists
Like, make it make sense.
How is it that the suckers with
zero sense for competition
zero desire to be better than others
are those who fucking get shit done
And I sit in my room all day blogposting on 4chan. Fucking hell
And then there's the guy who's everything I want to be. He just does it. Fuck
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>>34037587
>It feels like all of these people should be inferior to me but they're not
You have an inferiority complex, why the fuck are you comparing apples to oranges?

>TLDR is anon feels sorry for himself and acts like a 12 year old
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>>34037524
I don't understand your premise OP.
You seem to think that things like liking anime, not having muscles or doing photography for a hobby somehow stops a man from talking to women or holding a job. You're conflating several different skillsets here. Did you think that by *not* having what you deem to be a nerdy hobby that you were somehow increasing your own chances? Maybe that was never your problem.
I have muscles and no problem talking to women or holding down a career and I love taking pictures. I have other nerdier hobbies than that, too.
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>>34037664
>You have an inferiority complex
I'd argue he has more of the opposite problem.
He's seething that people he's deemed "lesser" than him have more success in life.
The problem is, he's given no indication how or why these people *are* lesser than him, it's just supposed to be some self-evident fact or something. Says a lot about OP and his worldview. But then at the same time he also knows it's not quite playing out like he expects and these "lessers" are having more success with women and careers than him and he can't reconcile it. Hence his confusion and seethe.
If he dug a little further he might come to realization that the real "lesser" here is and always has been him.
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>>34037683
Yeah so I have a superiority complex is what you're saying. And your analysis is spot on.
But you know, that's good. It's good I'm finally comparing myself to others. I have rarely done this before.
But of course I have always considered myself superior, it's human. At least for many people it is.
I'm seriously starting to think this "don't compare yourself to others" thing is bullshit. I feel like there is more drive to be found where this outburst came from.
>It's like my nigga Napoleon said nigga, somebody gotta explain why I ain't got shit.
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Why aren't you happy that your friends are successful? If you actually were as superior as you think you are you'd be trying to emulate something positive from these people. You seem like the character in an anime that gets mogged by the MC because he has a shitty attitude. Why are you superior? You just sound like a piece of shit loser to me.
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>>34037763
>Why aren't you happy that your friends are successful
I mean most days I am, this display of neuroticism is unusual for me.
But I'm telling you. I consider this a good thing for myself.
Usually I don't even have the energy to get angry over shit like this.
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>>34037741
>And your analysis is spot on.
It often is, but I appreciate your honesty.
>But of course I have always considered myself superior, it's human. At least for many people it is
Not really. It makes you a fucking asshole, and yes so do a lot of people but there are lot of assholes out there. It still doesn't mean that's something to aspire to.
And here's the thing, thinking you're superior to others, while not preferred, at least becomes more understandable and somewhat excusable when there's something there to actually back it up. If not, there's really no excuse.
And right now, you're literally at the lowest rung. The order of ascension goes
>being inferior while thinking you're superior (delusional asshole)
>being superior while thinking you're superior (asshole)
>being superior, but staying grounded anyway and learning a thing or two about humility
I do get it OP, because I was an asshole too and had an unearned ego. But I've made the full journey; you have yet to.
>like my nigga Napoleon said
Outlawz were wack and Pac did himself a disservice doing so many songs with these bums.
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>>34037798
I respect your wisdom but I can't help but to feel that it is coming from the perspective of someone who has already achieved things.
For example, where does the magnanimous loser fit in your picture? Does he even exist?
I don't think so.
I'm starting to think that this loser's aggression, be it in the form of envy or pride, is one of the greatest motivators.
That being said, I feel that you are right, especially about the humility part.
The truth is that my lack of humility is a huge fucking weakness. It's really just fear.
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>>34038455
>I can't help but to feel that it is coming from the perspective of someone who has already achieved things.
Well of course I have. Would you rather take advice from someone who hasn't? One of my biggest problems with /adv/ is people who are in no position to give advice feel compelled to do it anyway. You should never take advice from someone you wouldn't want to switch places with. And yeah, I've had to overcome a lot of shit in my time.
>For example, where does the magnanimous loser fit in your picture? Does he even exist?
I don't think so.
Fair question, I thought about that too actually when I was posting that. They exist. It depends how you prioritize the hierarchy. He might be a better person than the loser with the chip on his shoulder, but might be less liable to make a change and get things done. Since I prioritize being a good person I'd probably put him between the delusional asshole and the garden variety (but successful) asshole.
>I'm starting to think that this loser's aggression, be it in the form of envy or pride, is one of the greatest motivators.
It can be at first, but after a while it becomes a cope and a crutch. The people who have the most success and happiness and regularly get things done aren't usually trying to "get fired up" and make a big deal about it. They just consistently do so as part of their routine and day to day life.
As I said, I've been a person who gets things done and a person who doesn't. I am very personally familiar with both mindsets.
>The truth is that my lack of humility is a huge fucking weakness. It's really just fear.
It absolutely is. Again...been there, and appreciate the honesty. That's always the biggest first step to getting better OP.
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>>34038548
Thank you
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>>34037524
>Why is it that the straightest/most disciplined guys so often seem the gayest/least ambitious?
>lists people who have clearly worked hard to get in to good high paying positions and has lot of interesting hobbies they know a lot about and are good at and get laid all the time.

Where is gay part and lacking ambition. Seems like that's you OP.
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>>34037524
I won't read armchair musings about comparative male value in the "smp." OP just needs to leave his dungeon once in a while.
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>>34037524
>straightest/most disciplined guys so often seem the gayest/least ambitious
Makes no fucking sense

Straightest guys seem the gayest? What?
Most disciplined guys seem the least ambitious?

Why don't we look at your examples then
>zero muscles
>photography as a hobby

>talks to more women than you
So he does better with women despite being "girlier" than you

>likes cat memes on instagram
>plays video games on steam 24/7

>he has a girlfriend
>actually knows how to study
So he is lazier but does better than you anyway

>unironically watches anime

>he has a management position at a car factory already
So he watches fagnime and still doing better than you

>gets himself involuntarily cucked on a regular basis

>still has had more sex with hot women than me
Well that's the price he paid for getting with bitches out of his league I suppose?

>I'm an underachiever compared to them
>there are guys who use discord and anime profile pictures who are better at "getting after it" than I am
So basically, not only do you have zero "fun", you also don't "achieve" anything with the free time and resources you supposedly should have gained due to abstaining from "fun".

Idk op, I think maybe you should just give up and have "fun" cuz you ain't gonna get anywhere with your whole "must repress and pretend to be macho-est big man" anyway
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>>34039585
I have already gotten more from this thread than I could have asked for but I have to reply to this.
Nothing makes me as mad as this idea that I should just have fun.
If I'm honest it might be a sunken cost thing.
But I don't know how to have fun.
If I started trying to have fun today I would
>Play vidya
>Watch anime
>Learn Japanese
Doing these things in the past has gotten me absolutely nowhere.
I'm tired of being nowhere.
I know I'm depressed but the idea that """fun""" will lift me out of this shit is my ultimate pet peeve.
And of course I envy people who have fun.
But really I envy them more for having managed to put in the hard work that I avoid.
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>>34040585
Balance it
I'm just saig. That you might as well have fun if the having no fun option is getting you nowhere anyway. But if you think you can get somewegrre ewith something then do it
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>>34041085
Damn. I was already imagining what your reply might be and getting mad at you. I was about to call you mediocre and accuse you of trying to pull me down with you.
But I can't get mad at you for genuinely trying to help me.
I have turned 24 years old since I made this screencap. Only now am I realizing that I have this energy.
I have to stop putting it into the wrong things.
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>>34037524
1 your persona should be easygoing or you’re going to alienate people, an ambitious person is MORE likely to develop this
2 actually being chill internally or emotionally leads to more success than being intense
3 people who are winning already have more to be happy about, more earned confidence, and more excess which allows for more relaxation
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>>34037524
People have different strengths and weaknesses.
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They don’t



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