So I just had a massive disagreement with my father at the family dinner. I said our country is boring, and he exploded and called me ignorant and said I don't know anything of this country. I told him that I've seen enough and it's boring to me. He thought I was projecting but I named him some countries that I don't find boring, like Italy, Japan and Korea. He was screaming at me, my left ear is still fucking ringing.Anyway, my mom started crying and my aunt told me I was being a cunt and told me she won't come to my birthday dinner because I didn't deserve it now. I told her that's her choice to make.My father told me I can never accept other people's opinions and that I always enforce my viewpoints onto others. I said no, I don't care about changing your opinions, but I'm still not ignorant and I still find this country to be boring. I told him that he was behaving like a big baby and that he's only angry because he can't control my opinions. I swear, everyone got so worked up about it, lmao. Then my father told me to leave. I told them to take philosophy classes to have rational conversations. Then I fucking left.I kinda regret telling them about my life and all that. Had I known that they were just absolute fucking losers... Well, I always knew that, but I thought it was a good idea to eat dinner with them again.Who was in the wrong here? Should I finally cut them off from my life, even though I had already told them my next life plans? Fuck, I shouldn't have told them about it all. FUCK.I stood my ground, and I love this rush I'm feeling. That rush of defending myself.
>>34048583>I stood my ground, and I love this rush I'm feeling. That rush of defending myself.Then yes, cut them out of your life.
>>34048681Okay man. I just need 2 more years, unfortunately. Because I'm still financially dependent on my father. I didn't pick this stupid family, okay? Fuck.
>>34048959What losers you both are
>>34048583If you think your country is boring, you must not understand it very well. You should learn more so you will be less wrong next time.
>>34048959>. I just need 2 more years, unfortunately. Because I'm still financially dependent on my fatherAh. Well, in that case, you made terrible mistake with this. It's a good guideline in life in general not to turn anything into a fight unless you have to. If you make something into a battle then the other person has to feel like they've been defeated before they'll do what you want, and they lose face. But if you keep things polite then they can feel like they're being magnanimous by helping you. This is particularly true when it comes to dealing with unreasonable people. Obviously you shouldn't let him simply walk over you, but you really need to pick your battles. You gained nothing with this, except a brief sense of satisfaction, and your life will likely change for the worse for at least several weeks, maybe longer.
how could a country be boring? you sound insane.
>>34048974Why are you including me? I had no other choice but to ask them for money.
>>34049014>>34049074I don't know man, maybe I've just been here too long. It's just really bland.
>>34049051Yeah fuck, you're right. I didn't feel like I overdid anything though, I don't know what they're fucking problem was. Guess they just want me to agree to everything they say lmao. I guess I'll stop seeing them for a while. But I don't even feel any remorse or guilt, it's so weird.
>>34048583>Italy, Japan and KoreaIm with your dad on the 2, you're a retard that fetishizes the east because you're a dull person here. But the fuck is wrong with Italy?
Taking for granted all things given to you, complacent with the miracle of your parents' home and the fact that your mother and father are even still together, isolated culturally and educationally, unaware and unlearned of too much, not yet had a chance to mature. Guessing few responsibilities, but could be off on that one. We were all at a place like that. Pushing blame outside of yourself is easy. If you are going to criticise something, try criticizing yourself first.Try working in any country outside of (insert your western country here) and you will change your tune real quick. You have no idea how awesome "boring" really is dood. It is boring to have everything given to you; it is radically less boring to know the real cost of toothpaste and to learn about literally anything besides your local block.Also Korea sucks ass and Japan has a lot of problems which they don't flaunt in their animes and propaganda. Italy is corrupt and has problems but is actually not as bad as many yuropoors.
>>34049121I don't think I'm fetishizing the East (anymore), it's just so different that it's cool>the fuck is wrong with Italy? I don't know man, I love Italy, it's so cool
>>34049098I bet your country is cooler than mine. Bunch of merchants wiped out a Stone Age civilisation so I can buy plastic shit manufactured by supposed enemies. No history whatsoever here.
>>34049284Who are those supposed enemies? The Chinese?
>>34048583What an annoying little prick you must be.
>>34051134Based on what?
>>34049161>the miracle of your parents' homeYeah it truly is a miracle that my parents still share a hime desu.I'm not isolated culturally and educationally though, not sure how you got that.>not yet had a chance to matureI can be "mature" and still find things boring though>Guessing few responsibilitiesI live by myself and go to school and work. So yeah, some responsibilities. >Pushing blame outside of yourself is easy. If you are going to criticise something, try criticizing yourself first. Who am I blaming and criticizing? Yeah I'm not saying my work conditions are terrible, I'm just saying it's boring and I'd rather be by the beach or somewhere.
>>34048583Both Korea and Japan work like 60 hour weeks, and they still don’t get paid very well. I’ve been to Japan and it’s kinda boring and completely overhyped.I don’t know what country you live in OP, but maybe have some national pride. Most places around the world have cool things but are also boring after a while.
>>34051221Arguing over nothing at the dinner table. Leaping to ad hominem insults just because you couldn't win an argument that wasn't worth having in the first place. Being unable to distinguish between the major and the trivial. Actually thinking you "won" the interchange.
>>34048959>I'm still financially dependent on my fatherthen shut your mouth and know your goddamn role you little bitch
>>34051734>Leaping to ad hominem insults just because you couldn't win an argumentWhen did that happen?But you're right. This is what I get for arguing with unreasonable people.
>>34051775I'll just go to a money lender if he decides to cut my money stream off like that. I'd rather pay extra in fees and interest than having to lick his boot more than necessary.
>>34051886THEN GO DO THATdon't make it conditional! if that's what it takes to live your life, go blaze that trail. so long as you're sitting here "why if he did xyz I'd show him..." you're still a little bitch
>>34051925You're right, I don't know why my first option was to ask my asshole father who hated me my entire life. I guess I just didn't want to pay for the usurial fees. But at what cost? And I felt entitled to his money (even though I'll have to pay him back one day)
Bump
Your dad believes you want someone to argue with. Just don’t push his buttons too far for things to get violent.Also remember your dad cannot release his sexual tension with anyone else besides your mom
>>34048583average jeet family argument
You know, you guys were pretty vicious during the World Wars. And you also have a pretty nice flag. We love you as our next-door neighbor even if you're too polite to accept it or respect yourself.
>>34049091I ask my father for money. I don't even need the money. I'm just cheap and he likes spoiling me.
>>34058534Are you a girl?
>>34057820>Your dad believes you want someone to argue withWhy would he believe that? I just stated my opinion. Honestly, he watched the news too much.
>>34051098Israel and the parasite menace the Jewish ethnostate is..
>>34048583I won't read wall-of-text threads. Get to the point next time.
>>34066896My point is that my family fucking sucks and I hate it. Any advice besides cutting them off?
>>34048583>I said our country is boring, and he exploded and called me ignorant and said I don't know anything of this country.He was 100% right that you're an ignorant little twat who doesn't know jack shit about what you're talking about.That said, emotionally exploding over that was completely unnecessary. It likely triggered his feelings over things beyond your words. Maybe he felt like you were dismissing the lifetimes of horror and suffering that came before you as "boring". Or maybe he was responding to not just this time you were being a dismissive, ignorant asswipe but instead every time you've been such an ungrateful turd your entire life. I dunno.But if you accurately represented your words, getting angry wasn't the best response. He should have chuckled and said "Ok zoomer."
>>34066945>you are projecting to be boringYes, I'm boring to talk to. I know, I admit it. People aren't exactly excited to talk to me, except for my mother. My voice fucking sucks too, but I'm working on it by vocalizing my spoken words more.But motherfucker, what I do in my life is NOT boring. At least not to me. What if unironically the place I live in is just fucking boring and I find other olaces NOT boring? Why does everything have to be written off as a projection in here?Yes, I did accurately represent my words, my father just has some anger issues.
>>34067181No. Not particularly surprisingly, you are not understanding the issue.If a person is, in fact, not boring. Then they do not find things boring because they are doing interesting things.An interesting person who does interesting things does not sit around thinking that their entire country is boring. They know it isn't because they are in their country doing interesting things.Savvy?Literally the only time I am ever bored is when I am too sick to do anything mentally or physically interesting.In your mind, what does a country have to do to not be boring anyway?
>>34048583You are right if you're american. There is no such thing as american culture. You wom the argument. Keep doubling down, you're on the right side of the issue. Never back down when you're right.
>>34067555>because they are doing interesting things.But I AM doing interesting things. And I don't think about how boring my country is all the times, this barely ever happens. Newsflash, I can do interesting things in an uninteresting place. I basically just have to NOT do what everyone else is doing, and it's already interesting and not boring.>In your mind, what does a country have to do to not be boring anyway?It needs to have cool places, like Rome or Tokyo or Sydney has, I'm talking about stuff like the Colosseum, Robot Restaurant, Capsule Hotels and amazing and stunning architecture. It has to be elite and pristine. Like Singapore or Chongqing where they basically live in a labyrinth (super hilarious). It needs to have a clean beach so I can look at the waves, go surfing, swimming and diving.It needs to have interesting people doing interesting things, such as entrepreneurial people who are as eccentric as me. Uplifting people, people who believe in something greater than life. Not the usual drones doing the "9 to 5" and wait for retirement to release them. I want fucking conquerors, people who want to own the motherfucking world (with Real Estate or their businesses or their art for example). I want supermodels. I want to play golf with my bro and drive a yacht at the beach and invite everyone on it. I want to wake up and see the beautiful sunrise at the beach.I want more out of this one existence than our overlords prescribed to us. We only have this one life, for crying out loud! And you want me to be content with what I have? Yes, I am grateful fir what I have, thank you very much, but it's never enough. And my boring ass country does NOT provide any of these things.Do you fucking get it now?
>>34067622I'm not American.
>>34048583Your opinion seems reasonable enough to me and your family's reaction to it suggests they're angry that you'd dare to have an opinion and not be bullied out of it.>cut them off?I'd lean toward yes but I probably wouldn't bother telling them. I just wouldn't bother maintaining any connection to them in future.
>>34068993Yeah well, I wasn't planning on announcing it either. But you're right, I'll just increasingly stop seeing them. I alread won't be sharing Christmas with them.
>>34048583you are an ignorant manchild stuck to your asian fantasies. Get a real job before spewing nonsense and chinese propaganda. If you honestly think asian countries are far superior you are inherently wrong. They have an even larger amount of "boring" people working 9-to-5 jobs than your country, but chinese propaganda doesn't show you that. Stop being a retard and apologize to your family over what is essentially, a petty argument, that wasn't even personal. You seem to be a very autistic and irritating person and I feel sorry for your parents for having to fund the life of such a slob.
>>34069008I do have a job and I was not talking about the work life of other countries, I didn't only mention Asian countries either. Besides, I'm planning on indebting myself to a money lender to not have to endure any further humiliation.I won't apologize for having an opinion either, cunt.
>>34069015>I won't apologize for having an opinion either, cunt.you shouldn't be apologizing for having an opinion, you should apologize because you're an insufferable autist, exhibit A:
>>34069031What makes you think I'm an insufferable autist?
>>34069008Is everyone here just angry and looking to shit on someone?
I sincerely hope you are below the age of 16. Please learn some self-awareness and stop tipping your fedora to the people who clothe and feed you.
>>34069206What, you want me to take their shit and not talk back?
>>34069276He does because he's a normy POS.
All I can say is that you truly are your father's son, OP. This is probably a bait thread though.
>>34069927I agree.>>34069965>you truly are your father's son, OP.How? Did I scream at someone for having an opinion I don't agree with? What is this shitty gaslighting?
>>34069965durr these are both the same position
Ride a motorcycle thru America, then see if you can say it's still boringPeople who say this about the USA have never explored it or are completely ignorant to the history of our country. There's a lot of cool shit that isn't in other countries
>>34070409Not from Merica.
>>34068985>It needs to have cool places, like Rome or Tokyo or Sydney has, I'm talking about stuff like the Colosseum, Robot Restaurant, Capsule Hotels and amazing and stunning architecture. It has to be elite and pristine. Like Singapore or Chongqing where they basically live in a labyrinth (super hilarious).How do you know that your country doesn't have "cool places"?>It needs to have a clean beach so I can look at the waves, go surfing, swimming and diving.Subjective bullshit but actually a valid opinion.>It needs to have interesting people doing interesting thingsEvery country has interesting people doing interesting things.>entrepreneurial people who are as eccentric as me.Lots of contrarian faggots fixated on being super special snowflakes is not interesting, it's irritating.>Uplifting people, people who believe in something greater than life.I can't think of a single country that doesn't have these people.>Not the usual drones I can't think of a single country that doesn't have these people.>I want fucking conquerorsAh, fictional characters or successful titans that want absolutely *nothing* to do with your sorry ass.>people who want to own the motherfucking world. I want supermodels. I want to play golf with my bro and drive a yacht at the beach and invite everyone on it. I want to wake up and see the beautiful sunrise at the beach.You and every barista is California. Good luck with that. >I want more out of existence...The first step towards achieving literally anything remotely close to beginning to step towards any of this is a basic level of awareness of your own lack of knowledge. But instead of learning from others, you'd rather insist your opinions are fact. >my boring ass country does NOT provide any of these things.No country provides elite bros and super models>Do you fucking get it now?Yes. The grass looks greener on the other side to you. There are no cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese.
