>>34053761
>Gamers
>Guys who have no motivation to work, want to NEET

Whats wrong with that
>Talks about other women, indicating that he doesn't have eyes for only you
You mean he doesn't pretend that because thats not a thing outside of houswifeslop romance novels.

>>34053761
I’d just get some rich old man.

>probably wouldn’t have to fuck him because his dick doesn’t work anymore
>he naps a lot
>probably doesn’t drink/smoke much because he’d be dead already
>too frail to beat on me
>he’ll probably croke before I hit 40 so I still have time to travel and enjoy my inheritance

EZ PZ.

Also, provided I got a female brain and didn't perceive sex as men with gay but was still myself otherwise. Then I'd form a Chad harem and accelerate the cock carousel to Mach fuck whenever one of the Chads gets ensnared by a marriage oriented roastie until I recruit a replacement.

Lol. There's plenty of men who want genuine relationships, especially these days when dating has become astronomically harder for men in general.

>>34053844
>when dating has become astronomically harder for men in general.

Guess how I know that you are one of the
>"Nice guys" said to be put by women "into the friend zone"

>>34053851
>Guess how I know that you are one of the
>>"Nice guys" said to be put by women "into the friend zone"
No. You guessed wrong. I have no interest in modern dating. I dated two girls, both lied and tried manipulating me. I broke it off. I'm tired at this point.

pretty much every woman wasted months (if she's lucky) to years of her life sticking by a loser man. the most successful and ambitious women i know (stem phds, law school, med school) in their early-mid 20s let themselves get dragged down by men who won't get jobs or wash their asses. there's something deeply wrong with female instinct or socialization.

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>>34053761
>Could you handle dating as a woman?
It would automatically double your chances of success.

>>34053761
Pic is utter nonsense. She doesn't have to put up with fuckboys, and doing so only makes it exponentially harder on herself.
It's as simple as not having sex outside of marriage. Instant filter for not only fuckboys but also aimless dudes who will waste all of a woman's 20s in a noncommittal relationship before deciding they're bored or want to see what dating another woman is like.

I couldn't handle dating as a woman because I'm not a faggot, but if I were a straight woman, it's not that hard to find a decent partner, at least not compared to men. Of course, they still have other things to worry about that men don't as much, like date rape or domestic violence. But that wasn't the question.

>>34053874
>the most successful and ambitious women i know (stem phds, law school, med school)
Most men who aren't heavy type A personalities (and even some of those) don't see this as very attractive in a potential wife. Sure, they can respect her abilities and seriousness, but that kind of background means "my career is more important to me than marriage or family". I'm guessing they stayed in those relationships with shitty dudes for that reason: they weren't particularly invested in the idea of a long-term relationship.

>inb4 some anon asks "why don't we say the same about men"
1. I don't control what women think. Women are free to find career-focused men unattractive.
2. Men don't have the same biological clock women do. To get a career requiring extensive schooling and (often) years of grueling entry-level work, women need to sacrifice their prime years for having kids. Men aren't nearly as constrained by biology.
3. Despite the difference in biology, the sentiment still exists. Hence Type A personalities not being for everyone.

there are known vetting strategies to handle the majority of what was listed, no one would bat an eyelid about dumping a man for the majority of the reasons listed, and the darker arts like monkey branching or stealing aren't frowned upon as much as you might think.

>>34053761
>When a guy decides he wants a girlfriend he can find a great girl to date in 5-7 business days
Hold the fuck up. I've been trying to find a girl that will date me for 5 to 7 years!!! Where did this motherfucker get days from?!

>>34053782
>>Guys who have no motivation to work, want to NEET
>Whats wrong with that
lack of having their own life and day to day obligations without pestering you

>>34053897
>It's as simple as not having sex outside of marriage.
I've never met a single man who was waiting until marriage, or was voluntarily abstaining from sex in any capacity. Not one.

I've met women who were various variety of abstinent, but zero men. Looking for a man who is waiting until marriage is asking to not date.

>>34054156
I did.

>>34054172
Are you extremely religious?

As someone who isn't, it was hard to find a man who did not try to sleep with me on the first date and didn't have casual sex. I can't imagine wanting to look for a guy who wanted to wait until marriage lmao

>>34054156
Even if that were true, that would be a reason against dating men at all, not a reason to give up on the standard of putting commitment before sex.

>>34054187
If that works for you, sure. I personally wanted to get married and have a family.

>>34053909
replace 'a guy' with 'an attractive guy with options', because unattractive men are invisible to her.
and it's 'great girl' because it's the women are wonderful effect, and he magically doesn't need to vet any women at all.
>>34054156
i have met several men who have waited, each for their own reasons, but it's anecdata.

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>>34053761
My requirements for dating women as a man are:
>never had casual sex
>emotional intelligence and communication
>wants to have a family with multiple children
>prefers to work for the family and home rather than a business, at least during early stages of child development
>positive personality, not constantly negative and depressing
>not older than me (late 20s)
This criteria is impossible for 99.9% of women. I am over 6ft making good six figures with an average body type with average (or maybe slightly above average, hopefully) looks. No women are even interested in living this life or morality.
I have never once pursued casual sex. Do I get horny when looking at random women and does my primitive brain want to fuck them all? Yes. But I will never act on that because I care about the future and am not a monkey.
Dating as a man is impossible if you want anything more than a sex toy.

>>34053761
Was about to write a whole thing, gave up mid way because I realized one thing.
I'd rather have the options rather than no option.
Granted I've seldom lacked the option to date someone, I've been lucky with a few traits that helped me here greatly.

But on the women side I used to see a lot of:
>Political Agenda
>Incredibly Fat and Fake
>Feminists
>Workaholics
>Cheaters (it goes to both sexes really)
>Ghosting (it goes to both sexes really)
>Chicks who only want sex
>Chicks who don't want kids
>Chicks who expect you to pay for everything
>Abusers (it goes to both sexes really)
>Talks about other men, indicating that she doesn't have eyes for only you (it goes to both sexes really)
>Chicks with LITERALLY no interests
>Chicks that only want to travel
>Chicks that are a bit too much into social media and their persona
>Psychologically broken chicks, mostly from bad parenting or lack thereof

In reality, we're both (as sexes) almost equally insane and retarded, just in different forms and people think it's worse off being another, grass is greener type of thing.

>>34054227
As a woman who fits your requirements, I struggled a lot to find a man who shared the same values and views. Plenty of men are not interested in having a family or believe the mother of their children should stay at home during early development, and even among those who did, every other guy pushed for sex early on or had casual sex, plenty were very into porn or otherwise degenerate, almost all of them were dating multiple women.

It eventually worked out but it was really depressing to date in my 20s.

>>34053761
Genuine question, why not just date a chill guy you work with? like maybe he's not the most attractive or daring, but if he's nice and passably handsome it kinda feels like you hard skip any red flags in cold call dating apps. Every happy woman I know married a coworker come to think of it lol

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>>34054251
>I'd rather have the options rather than no option.
agreed

>>34054277
This is at least refreshing to hear and I appreciate your reply.

Another issue I have is that - naturally - most of the women I attract are extremely religious. As one of the first few messages, they'll ask about my religion. When they learn that although I hold traditional Christian values and highly respect Christianity as a religion, but that I personally do not believe in God, they are no longer interested. In their eyes, it is not possible to be with someone who doesn't share their faith.
Unfortunately my future tactic will just be vaguely lying about my lack of faith until they get the chance to actually know me more. So far I would've had 3x the amount of dates with actual decent women if I was a Christian, lol.

>>34054277
>It eventually worked out but it was really depressing to date in my 20s.

What were the worst red flags?

>>34054313
Lying is not a good foundation for a relationship, anon. Don't lie about your faith, especially if you're not open to converting eventually.
I do understand that it makes dating harder, I'm not religious either and can relate with the sentiment. It is just a bad foundation for a relationship and once they realize you're not religious they'll stop dating you anyway and you'll have wasted their time and yours.

>>34054318
Very sexual early on is by far the red flag I encountered the most. Men would often be sexually forward before even going on a date, would try to fuck me after a first date, would act offended if I didn't sleep with them, etc.
Non committal was also very common. I couldn't stand that so many men wanted to date for months (!) without making it a relationship, or would talk to different women, or would tell me "oh we did not explicitly agree to not see other people".
I date with intent and a man who is not interested in me enough to not be seeking others at the same time is a deal breaker.
The other common one was negative views of women and negative views of femininity. As someone who seeks traditional gender roles in a relationship, a man who doesn't respect femininity is not someone I want to be with.

Other than that, pretty normal stuff most people will encounter while dating - anger issues, entitlement, lying, etc.

>>34054368
>Non committal was also very common. I couldn't stand that so many men wanted to date for months (!) without making it a relationship, or would talk to different women, or would tell me "oh we did not explicitly agree to not see other people".

What do you do if they constantly talk about other people while they're with you? Does it just mean they don't like you?

>>34054400
>What do you do if they constantly talk about other people while they're with you?
What other people?

It's normal to share stories about friends or stuff like that, but I think it's important to be with a man who makes you feel liked and cherished.

>>34053761
Really think about what you just posted. Women play games, women are lazy, work isn't rewarding to wagies as it should be and besides that women cleaned out the boomers who did still make money in divorce and otherwise blatantly use men for money like foodie calls or other nonsense, women who tell men to wait for it already fucked god knows how many guys for less or nothing, women watch porn read porn and use detached funny shaped dicks to get off, women cheat and have multiple backup guys waiting in the background on purpose for validation and dick if they get into an argument or bored with their current dick, women drink and do drugs as much or more than men despite handling it worse because they have weaker bodies (this goes for casual sex too btw), women are abusive, women stop responding for mentioned reasons and others, women are nowhere near totally devoted to one cock again for the mentioned reasons or past dick etc etc. You're complaining on behalf of women who do the same shit or worse, who are in measurably worse condition both physically and mentally. Get a grip faggot.

>>34054414
>a man who makes you feel liked and cherished.

Any tips on how to do that as a man?

Funny thing. That actually happened.
I'm now a femcel posting daily moid hate.

>>34054251
We're not equally insane and retarded because you're not letting your fellow man get away with all kinds of stupid shit just because you want to fuck them. Can't be said for women. And women were already going to be self interested without this enabling them.

>>34054453
Real women hate themselves more than men

>>34054448
Genuinely like the woman you're with, basically. Respect her as a person and as a woman. Value her opinions and her thoughts. Be enthusiastic about her, and don't be afraid to show it.

>>34053893
>"success"
>look inside
>excruciating sex

>>34054448
listen to me and dont lie, eat my pussy

>>34053874
>the most successful and ambitious women i know (stem phds, law school, med school) in their early-mid 20s let themselves get dragged down by men who won't get jobs or wash their asses
Genuinely what would men work shit paying jobs for in modern times? Girl bosses already making money even if usually not enough either. You're not having a good family with ran through career women which most of them are. They got no time and plenty of baggage. There is literally always other guys involved with these women sooner or later. They are caught fucking their coworkers or "work husbands" or bosses out of boredom or for profit. If you made extra coins your life would probably still be shit. It's a little late to be crying about life being wasted.

>>34054478
Yeah and real women also sit in their armchairs in their one room apartments empty of other furniture except the tv, smoke a pipe (in a way that lacks reason and accountability), and think about their lives. Then they'll make social media accounts where none of them get delusional from the attention. The rest of their time is filled with introspection instead of vapid gossip. God I miss being a moid

>>34054587
Women severely harm themselves more than men just for empty validation, larping and material gains.

>>34054623
then why are women opting out of dating?

>>34054623
>Women severely harm themselves more than men just for empty validation
I've never heard a sillier talking point. 95% of all violent crime offenders are men. You know why? Because men are the ones killing each other over petty shit like stepping on each other's shoes or "disrespecting" each other. They kill themselves at wildly higher rates and are less emotionally resilient by almost every metric. Incel delusion is so wild.

>>34054642
Because they already wore themselves out on legendary amounts of dick, doubled down on feminist female supremacy and they still get the ick from men in better condition than them because they still think they deserve the best.
>>34054650
Many times more women die from just drinking too much than there are total female homicide victims. Women attempt more honest aware suicide more than men but also simply fail at it much more. And hundreds to thousands of women still lust after or reward men like wade wilson who kill them for no reason. There's no delusion on my end you're just stupid.

>>34054677
im a virgin, retard. stop projecting
>feminist female supremacy
thats an oxymoron. feminism is bothsider slop.
all moids are violent and want to kill all women, but are such wannabe victims that they think they couldnt actually do it.

>>34054677
All of this only exists in the carefully constructed fantasy world that lives in your head, rent free.

>>34054708
Real virgins among real women are a tiny minority far less than 10 percent and it doesn't account for the fact women don't consider things like handjobs, blowjobs and anal as sex. So it really doesn't matter whatever the fuck you say you are. Imagine being such a dumb tranny crying about how violent men are towards women when the facts show women not only measurably harm themselves more than men harm them but give much more love to men that will outright kill them for nothing than to a normal guy.

>>34054727
Stats or facts and touching grass show women are fatter than men and handle being fat, having sex and alcohol much worse than men because of their weaker smaller bodies. All you ever had was sorry cope.

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>>34053761
Yeah and here I am as the weirdo that these women see me as, and thank god I am happy being alone not putting up with all this shit. Yeah you go and do what you need being all weird about men and all that. I got life to look forward to.

>>34054741
>tiny minority far less than 10 percent
okay? im a woman diagnosed with autism, thats way less than 10%. are you retarded?
>it doesn't account for the fact women don't consider things like handjobs, blowjobs and anal as sex
this is projection. MOIDS use this excuse for cheating and rape.
the most intimate ive been with a moid was getting kissed on the lips when i was like 6 and didnt know what sex was.
>So it really doesn't matter whatever the fuck you say you are
you are saying this because you are so mindless that you cant even comprehend the concept of self-control.
>women avoiding abuse hurts women more than moids abusing them
absolute moid take.
all moids will kill women if it were legal.

>>34054751
>beat women during sex
>blame women for existing
moids literally live shorter lives than women. you dont have a leg to stand on here.

>>34054764
would kill*

>>34054677
>Many times more women die from just drinking too much than there are total female homicide victims.
So do men. I have no clue what you think this is supposed to prove or what it has to do with what I said.

>Women attempt more honest aware suicide more than men but also simply fail at it much more.
Incorrect. Women use methods that are less effective than men.

>And hundreds to thousands of women still lust after or reward men like wade wilson who kill them for no reason.
Hundreds and thousands of people are also sexually attracted to poop. Nothing you're talking about has anything to do with what I said. You're flailing.

>>34054764
Women are abusing and killing themselves more than men are through various activities they can't handle and simping for losers who kill them like wade wilson. He got more support from women than most guys who are neutral or support women get.
>>34054768
Women ask to get beat during sex and get mad if guys don't. Men live shorter lives but apparently in better condition.

>>34054783
It proves women harm themselves more than men harm them or hate them like the one creature is complaining about itt right now. It's not incorrect because women still attempt suicide more, that's not the sign of a healthy happy group. Stop coping.

>>34054677
women attempting suicide is more of a cry for help than a wish to actually follow through with it. men want to follow through.

>>34054792
>Women are abusing and killing themselves more than men are
This is statistically and factually false.

>simping for losers who kill them like wade wilson
I have no clue where this incel delusion came from that any significant number of women love murderers. Do you have any stats on this whatsoever?

>Women ask to get beat during sex and get mad if guys don't.
Ask me how I know you've never had sex with a woman

>>34054792
>avoiding abuse is self-abuse
>i have no argument, so i will repeat my lies

>Women ask to get beat during sex and get mad if guys don't.
this is your favorite excuse, but you worry about getting "cancelled" for being a demonic piece of shit.
you literally do it WHEN THE WOMAN SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU NOT TO
this is why women are opting out. moids are unbelievably evil, and nothing but evil.
moids are a hivemind that must commit mass suicide or be exterminated
kill all moids.

>better condition.
now youre admitting that moid have it easy?

>>34054805
moids literally only commit suicide to look like victims. thats why moids are ALWAYS the ones whining about suicide

>>34054807
moids are inherently dishonest and malevolent, which dictates just about everything they do

>>34053761
> Could you handle dating as a woman?
The worst part is having to be a woman.
>>34054453
congratulations.

>>34054805
Women attempting suicide still shows they're mentally ill and not happy with life despite technically sticking around longer.
>>34054807
It's not false because men don't kill enough women to reach the amounts of women dying from just drinking, never mind the other complications from that and overeating or having casual sex. It's not delusion if you're going to have a group constantly crying about and guilting men over being violent or abusive for decades based on a minority while also giving one guy who kills women like wade wilson enough support to rival the total female homicide victims in that country.

>>34054817
Drinking, casually fucking, and overeating to the point it kills you by the hundreds of thousands and millions is self abuse and pretty much killing yourself unless you were forced to do those things which most weren't. Compare the number dying to that to the amount of women killed by men you're complaining about as if it's this huge issue. You're just stupid.

>>34054842
Maybe you just need to lighten up and get off the books every once in a while. The characters in your books have lives, so why not live like them?

>>34054807
>I have no clue where this incel delusion came from that any significant number of women love murderers
https://www.aol.com/judge-gets-mail-women-begging-185815865.html#:~:text=News-,Judge%20gets%20mail%20from%20women%20begging%20him%20to%20spare%20life,body%20was%20discovered%2C%20prosecutors%20said.

>>34054860
>Wilson has also been flooded with love letters, according to the Lee County Sheriff’s Office.
>He has received nearly 4,000 messages online 754 photos and 65 letters in the mail, in total. The sheriff’s office said they rejected 163 photos for their “inappropriate nature.”
>In 2023, there were 3,849 female homicide victims in the United States, according to the FBI.

>>34053761
>Dating as a man
>literally invisible and constant suicide fuel

>>34053761
I tried dating fags as a fag and it was great fun. They are all of those things. Sometimes all in one person. And sometimes they're still a cool person despite that. You talk, maybe you fuck, maybe you consider doing it again another time if you like them.

Honestly sounds like a skills issue

>>34054506
>excruciating sex
>it's bad and we don't want it but we do it anyway
riiiiight

>>34054842
im not complaining about murder. why do moids always do this shit?
moids constantly demand casual sex

>>34054866
>Jordan Worth is actually engaged
>4,000 messages represent all 4,000,000,000 females

>>34054883
I don't know have you read every moid's mind?

>>34054883
It's not just murder but abuse. Women are abusing themselves to death but you're crying about men doing so much harm to women. They're not recovering from death so maybe you should fix your priorities. Imagine crying about men wanting sex when most women do it anyway and while you're responding to a bunch of women wanting casual sex with a killer.

>>34054896
Hasn't stopped them from saying kill all men. They think they matter more than they do and real women don't do what they're complaining or worse.

>>34054882
women are opting out because of this bullshit. you constantly beg women to see sex as a chore.

>>34054916
You don't speak for millions of real women, you can't even speak for yourself.

>>34054896
seriously?

>>34054902
>Not getting abused is abuse
>If women didn't want to get abused, they wouldn't get abused
holy fucking moid logic
>you're responding to a bunch of women wanting casual sex with a killer.
>a bunch

>>34054913
They're just brainwashed by the cultishness of the internet my guy. Typical Reddit upvote bullshit. One of the reasons why on Reddit I prefer comments close to the bottom as opposed to the top. Trust me, be happy being alone first not worrying about all of this crap, and life gets so so much easier.

>>34054922
>actually, i am the woman expert, women are opting out because uuuhhhhh uuuuuuhhhhhh
you think 4,000 messages speak for all 4,000,000,000 females.

>>34054923
>Not getting abused is abuse
They are literally abusing themselves with food, alcohol and insisting on fucking the wrong men loony troon.

>>34054928
>you think 4,000 messages speak for all 4,000,000,000 females
I didn't say it speaks for all women in any post, but you're using a minority of your fellow men to justify killing all men while ignoring the fact many more women abused themselves to death.

>>34054930
im not trans, are you projecting?
i dont drink or fuck. also projection.

>>34054933
>Minority
moids are literally all the same
>Hitting women isnt abuse
>Women existing is abuse

>>34053761
>i have to go through years of cock carousel because i search for a right man
kek, ok

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>>34054923
Yeah, seriously sufemacist. Like I can't say every woman is evil, neither should you for men. Okay. You can live your entire life in fear of what men will do, and if you can't see beyond that, then that's your problem.

>>34054946
good moids dont exist.
>inb4 chad only
im a virgin

>>34054953
i know you're a man, faggot

>>34054952
>I can't say every woman is evil
you do. literal children too.
>in fear
i dont live in a shithole, cope harder.
>if you dont get abused, thats your problem

>>34054942
Yes it's a small minority of men that abuse women to the point of killing them. You can heal from hits, which women do do to men other women and children too, but not death. Eating wrong drinking when you can't handle it and fucking the wrong men isn't just existing it's choosing to abuse yourself.

>>34054958
Your mind and transitioning male body is a shithole thoughbeit

>>34054959
>to the point of killing them
moids dont want to go to prison
>You can heal from hits
>Women are the ones who lack accountability
i STILL DONT DRINK OF HAVE SEX. stop projecting, mindless dog. youre acting like a goddamn bot, typical moid

>>34054973
So you're just complaining about what you assume men you know nothing about would do to women while ignoring real women actually abusing themselves to death.

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>>34054942
>im not trans, are you projecting?
you're too stupid to drop namefagging every time, faggot

>>34054982
How could this happen

>>34054925
Reddit hides and deletes comments that are offensive to the sensitive retards on there even if it's true.

>>34054799
Women don't feel sadness the same way men do. That's why they use different methods when they hurt themselves for different reasons to men. The metrics you've used, more happiness vs less, do not apply to women because their value is different than that of men. Even when women are unhappy in a female standard, she doesn't experience the type of sadness you're thinking of, if they did, they would behave like depressed men. That's the fundamental difference you're not getting.

>>34054959
>Yes it's a small minority of men that abuse women
>to the point of killing them

>You can heal from hits
Healing from words and covert abuse is much, much harder. And also much more common.

>>34055105
Women love doing verbal abuse too so I don't see the point in bringing this up.

>>34055105
I think you've been given a curse in which you'll always have someone agreeing with you no matter what. You need to be more in situations where you'll be stuck with no one there agreeing with you, not even a girlfriend to standby and say "girl I know that's messed up." No, you need to really be stuck in a hole, and see through the light at the end of it to see life is too valuable to be focused on what you can't control whether it be the past or future. Alright, yes there are evil men in this world, but are you gonna let that effect your view of the few men in your life that love you? That's really stupid. To let what a lot of men did in your life to effect how you view all of them. Am I supposed to do the same thing with cars despite how many car accident deaths there are? No, I keep driving and using my car despite that.

>>34054414
>"be with a man who makes you feel liked and cherished."
>find a man who wants to genuinely fuck you
>NOOO, NOT LIKE THAT

Woman are rejecting 99% of men bitching about men and smashing into the wall at 30-35.

I feel no pity for them and unless your really dumb neither should you.

>Ghosting
This is something women do a lot more than men.

>>34054156
>I've never met a single man who was waiting until marriage
You find the garbage all in the same pile I guess

>>34055240
She's right but T B F Pearl is a pickme
She, Rachel Wilson, that one other bitch I can't remember, even shoe0nhead are all still women so they're still doing this out of attention seeking behavior

>>34053798
I am trying to date guys but it's been exhausting, i did have to ghost afterword's.

>>34055240
The consequence is getting too old to have kids.

>>34055430
Cope incel, ugly women don't want kids unless it's chad fertilizing that pussy. They want companionship and they are getting it.

>>34055465
The video says "women will never have consequences", I want kids and I'm basically old now, kids are what some women desire.

>>34055467
The title of the video is not important, it's the content that matters and she explains it pretty well how women are desirable all the way into their 60's and men are fighting for their companionship even into old age. It's you who is desperate to have kids since no woman will ever love you

>>34055474
I'm a girl.

>>34053761
Dating as a man your options are:
>
I spent 9 years doing online dating and didn’t get a single date until I just started going to different countries. Women would probably start killing themselves if they had to deal with the soul crushing rejection men deal with in modern dating.

>>34055492
I think I'd rather be a man and not date at all than worry about the wall.

>>34055495
whatever

>>34055494
As a man you hit the wall when you graduate college and your options run completely dry

>>34055497
Sorry..

Probably not. I've already had a taste of what they have to put up with and fuck that. Most guys are fucking oblivious to how stupid and creepy they are.

>>34053761
Imagine outing yourself for being a retard who can't distinguish gold from shit lmao

>>34055497
Hes man, keep your problems to yourself

>>34055530
Just speaking the truth my dude. I’m getting married next week so shit worked out for me, although it was a very long and tough journey of self improvement and reflection.

The dating world is all about sexual value. The average woman in her 20s has enormous sexual value, the average man has near zero. Most women do not realize this so they make retarded threads like this and expect pity. They don’t realize they’re dating high sexual value men which turn out to be the men that cheat the most and also dump them because they have their choice of whatever woman they want. They ignore a vast majority of men because people think sex is the end all be all of a relationship, and you can’t have sex with an ugly man, that’s cringe.

>>34055579
To add on to this, “the wall” is just a woman coming down from her high sexual value and turning into a normal person like the rest of us. No one wants to fuck you anymore, welcome to life on normal mode.

>>34053851
im not him but you are not making a good look for women if the literal first thing you write is i put nice men into friendzone while your thread is about you being to retarded to date as a woman,
wow shocking how could this happen

>>34055579
What is teenage romance? Not everyone is hopeless in love.

>>34055637
High school is the best shot any guy has at getting a girlfriend, bar none. After that it’s all downhill because women get into long term relationships, they get married, or they realize their sexual value and their standards for looks go into the stratosphere.

There are problems with this. A lot of boys in high school don’t realize that this is their best chance for finding a wife so they completely squander it by being turbo nerd losers, or in general are too immature to figure out what the qualities are of a good woman or relationship and waste their time on the wrong girl. The second problem is that people change vastly in their twenties and usually the younger you marry the higher likelihood of you becoming a completely incompatible couple and becoming divorced, and single in your 30s (welcome to dating hell).

>>34055520
That's just the start. Women KNOW which men will be bad for them. They're either masochists who get off to the mistreatment, or they have no self-esteem and are willing to be mistreated if they get enough tingles. Because they never take accountability for anything, they use these bad situations they willingly, even eagerly, put themselves through to garner sympathy. They assert their inferiority, ignorance and pointlessly self-imposed difficulties as the qualities of a strong, independent, empowered women. Do they learn anything from all this? No. Do they grow at all? No. Will they continue to do this shit as long as they can? Yes.

>>34055675
Idk, I think extroverted guys never have these kinds of issues because they keep rolling the dice while people like assumably you throw in the towel right away

>>34053874
>the most successful and ambitious women i know (stem phds, law school, med school) in their early-mid 20s let themselves get dragged down by men who won't get jobs or wash their asses.

> successfull

acting like a dude just isnt attractive

>>34053844
True. I know some awesome wholesome guys that are single and never got the chance to find a partner. I also know some horrible (straight up perverted drug addicts who gets girl all the time). My impression is that the woman brain is more like an animal brain. They have like zero judgment and are literal cattle

>>34055685
>People like me throw in the towel
Like I said I’m getting married next week, and it was after years of self improvement and looking for women. And I’m happy it all worked out the way I did because I truly believe the woman I’m marrying is the person that was always meant for me.

I’m pretty sure extroverted guys run into the same issues if they’re ugly. My point is “rolling the dice” is difficult when it’s a 20 sided dice and 40 is the only winning number. Securing dates as a 25 year old average man is extremely difficult. Your replies make me think you’re either a woman, in which case you haven’t the slightest clue what it’s like, or you’re too young and you’ll see what I mean when you get there.

>>34053761
It depends. If I can bring my male insight into other men with me, then I could easily spot a decent guy and i'd know how to get him. If not, then i'd be clueless

>>34053761
Out of this list, I'm a gamer NEET
I mean it gets worse but they are not listed

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I wish every man-hating feminist in this thread would stay single and her eggs wither and decay. Feminists believe women are happier without men, right? Then practice what you preach, remain a lonely spinsters, who dies alone in her apartment, her body nibbled at by her dozens of cats.

im a no motivation to work NEET! my wife is fine with it cuz im hawt and got big p p

>>34053909
she said guy not loner loser incel

>>34053761
And a mans options are.

>"Nice girls" said to be put by men "into the friend zone"
>Love Bombing
>femcels
>social media addicts
>women who have no motivation to work, want to NEET
>women who want money and your stuff right away
>Cheaters
>Alcohol/Drugs
>women who lead you on about marriage/kids only to dip out
>Abusers
>whores
>Ghosting
>Talks about other men, indicating that she doesn't have eyes for only you.
>Political activist who barely see you as a pet, let alone a person.
>bi-polar

>>34053874
>Woman willingly sticks with loser man.
>Refuses to break up with them for no reason
>this is the mans fault.

>>34055916
If a man has that many options he’s surely Chad.

>>34053761
From your dating options and experiences you are describing, you sound look like a typical used woman that is no more able to form a connection. Of course you are projecting it on everyone else because you cannot take responsibility for your actions. Enjoy your cats and alchoholism.

>>34055699
I'm a man. I hate "nice guys" , because they will hover and produce a constant stream of bitchy passive aggressive remarks when you try to rizz up their "best friend" who already rejected them.

>>34054980
>still thinks that women existing is self-abuse
>still thinks beating women isnt abuse

>>34054982
thats one of the trolls. are you too retarded to realize that anyone can use the same name?

>>34055088
moids can only feel horniness and anger

>>34056094
>Enjoy your cats and alchoholism
kek lol hahahaha

>>34053761
These seem to be problems you find with guys on dating apps, bars, gyms, random.
Is it the same for church going men?

>>34053761
See I don't fit into any of these categories. If anything I am a volcel who is just doing their own thing.
If I have a partner thats like cool, but its not really something I am actively seeking out, and probably never will.
I dated one girl 5 years ago and she was attractive physically but there was nothing emotionally, so like to me it was kinda pointless. I feel as though there is no point unless you and the partner just really enjoy each others existence.
Outside of this, I don't play video games, I'm sober, I don't watch porn. My entire focus and existence revolves around a super niche autistic interest that I have been in university for and am currently doing my doctorate in.

>>34053761
>"Nice guys"
They're likely exuding zero sexual energy.
Fair enough.

>Love Bombing
What? Like a guy who's enthusiastically interested? I can see doing this too early feeling too intense.
I don't see what's inherently wrong with "love bombing".

>Incels
They typically aren't in the dating scene because they're seeking hatred affirmation online.
But fair.

>Gamers
Nothing wrong with gamers. Or women who love Pinterest.

>NEETs
Fair enough.
Jobless losers need to be sex dynamos in order to keep women.

>want sex right away
Extremely common issue. Not too terribly difficult to weed out but it's definitely a hassle.
Fair enough.

>Cheaters
Literally everywhere and even the most loyal person can be driven to cheat eventually. It's not really a type of guy

>Alcohol/Drugs
Inebriation has been a common social lubricant for millennia. It's possible to completely avoid it but it drastically limits your options.
Plus, there's a huge difference between someone who drinks and someone who has a problem with alcohol or drugs.

>lead you on about marriage/kids only to dip out
Pretty sure that's mostly covered by the "only want sex" type. Also, women do similar deceptive things: "Oh, it's fine if you like to play video games! Maybe you can teach me! Teehee!"
Also, some women are out there talking about marriage before the first date. No lie.

>Abusers
Fair enough.
Avoid controlling and insecure types.

>Porn Addicts
Fair. It's not necessarily a huge issue but it is extremely often hidden.

>Ghosting
Pffffthahahahaha....
About a tiny fraction of the times women ghost men.
It sucks but it happens.

>Talks about other women
Fair but some women do this too.

>indicating that he doesn't have eyes for only you
Expecting this when you are *first* dating are fucking delusional. A guy CAN'T "only have eyes for" one girl if he has to talk to twenty at a time to find one who isn't fake, doesn't ghost, talks without stonewalling, and actually shows up instead of flaking.

>>34053761
>Talks about other women
Nigga every woman I've ever met wants to tell me about the dick she's already had or dick she's looking at already. This isn't special.

>>34055191
she said "liked and cherished," not "mindlessly lusted after" you fucking retarded ape

>>34053893
how the fuck is this even work out. It should be around 48-34% max. what the fuck?

>>34058047
its hilarious how moids tell women to only fuck old baldies and then post this

>>34055280
>talks about women hitting the wall
>bald

>>34055191
Yeah. A man wanting to fuck you is not a sign of affection and love, if you're a normal looking women most men will want to put their dick in you.

>>34058249
youre understating it.
moids are always angry and horny. the more intensely they feel one, the more intensely they feel the other.
so moids unconditionally hate women, and the more your turn them on, the more they hate you.

>>34053761
You mean having my choice of an infinite number of partners that would sacrifice limbs to drink my bath water even if I was only a 4/10?
Yeah, that would be so hard, I don't think I could do it.

>>34058532
>trust me bro, if i was a rational being, i would LOVE having to choose between being lied to and battered or never having sex