How do you overcome social defeat and CPTSD more generally?
>>34059146By not giving a fuck. It's all fake bullshit that ceases to exist when you decide to not care about it
>>34059268>if i ignore it maybe it will go away
>>34059146If you show me rats again I'll kill you
>>34059146>social defeatpicrel just looks like they scared that mouse to shit and now it's simply scared of other miceseems retarded to me to call it "social defeat" mice aren't even social
>>34059146Good thing you’re not a rat, anon. Humans are more complex, and the study can infer things, it’s not the end all, be all. You need to have some experiences. Life is hell, and you just have to experience the good or just new things. I had fucked up shit happen in my life that affects me, but with age and new experiences just allow you to decompress and move on. You could also choose the easy way out and rely on drugs and alcohol. They help, but you’ll still be at the same place emotionally and definitely worse off financially.
>>34059822Mice are super social you retard.
>>34059146Society cannot defeat you. You defeat yourself by believing in your own bullshit.
>>34062211No one can be you you nitpicking freak. Try giving advice that is empathetic instead of advice that glorifies you.
>>34062226How can I know what others feel? That is your job, but instead you project your issues on me with no regard for OP.
>>34059146You don't defeat cPTSD you can only accept it. Once you accept it and allow it then it paradoxically gets better.
>>34059146>CPTSD more generallyEMDR is working really well for me
sadly, you cant. as you can see from the replies in this thread, there are only winners and losers. if you are a loser nobody wants to have sympathy with you. Thats how social creatures work.In the wild you would have been outcasted and died, today you are outcasted and have to live in front of the computer, watching others get what you cant have.
>>34062247That’s not even pseudoscience, it’s literally nonsense. At best placebo for people easily-brainwashed.
>>34062247How do you get rid of all the habits and character defects that come after being in that environment? Do character defects go away when the trauma goes away?
>>34062440>sadly, you cant. as you can see from the replies in this thread, there are only winners and losers. Close but no cigar. Reality does not care about winning or losing, reality does not even have a concept for it, only humans do. Reality only understands that there are survivors or thrivers. You can be a survivor and build a life, or a thriver and inherit a life. Either one works but one is harder than the other. Traumatized/cPTSD afflicted people will have to work twice as hard but it's doable & there's twice as much satisfaction when you see it through.>>34062444NTA but the literature shows that EMDR is built on non-scientific models so you are right it is 'fake'. But fortunately for EMDR it still has success rates despite having a shaky premise. This is because EMDR is just a funky version of DBT therapy, it still results in external processing. Truth is you could do away with EMDR and as long as you do DBT you'd get the same success. But if someone takes the EMDR route, it still works anyway so ultimately it's a non issue
>>34059146Slowly build social confidence by engaging in social interaction. You HAVE TO practice irl.
>>34059281> a "disorder" defined by fixating on the pastYes, if you ignore it it will go away. How can you not see that?
>>34062554Nta but it's not a disorder defined by fixating in the past. It's a disorder defined by learning extreme coping mechanisms and developing exhausting traits like hyper vigilance, excessive pattern recognition, dissociation, blunted empathy & flattened emotions. All of which were important and helpful during a time of mental survival, during the trauma or incidents at the time. But the problem is even after the threat has ended, the mind clings to the tools it developed for survival, which winds up sabotaging your odds at settling back into peaceful living.
>>34062597>have fake disorder like "PTSD" or "CPTSD">get big bonk on the noggin>acquire amnesia>no longer able to remember past>don't have C/PTSDidk nigga sounds like a fake disorder caused by efixating on the past to me.
>>34062539There's a 3rd option: you just end up killing yourself
>>34062720>idk nigga sounds like a fake disorder caused by efixating on the past to me.It's a real process, but I agree the labelling and designating it a 'disorder' is bullshit. The only reason it's considered a 'disorder' is because it gets in the way of the modern idealistic idea of a 'good life', y'know the life with family, friends, wife, kids, 9-5 job, house and pet dog and white picket fence? That's what it can get in the way of so they call it a disorder or whatever. In reality though it's not a disorder, it's just a reaction to suffering and an adaptation to it. The only reason people suffer from it is because they keep trying to fight it and refuse to accept it in their attempts to be 'normal'. The fix is to just accept it and in trauma therapy that's exactly what the goal is.So funnily enough your advice of>By not giving a fuck. It's all fake bullshit that ceases to exist when you decide to not care about itIs more or less the correct route to take lol>>34062773>There's a 3rd option: you just end up killing yourselfTrue, but that'd be wasteful. People who are able to reconcile their own PTSD and live to tell the tale have a got a fuck ton of very useful insights to share and a lot of capability to unleash. Why waste it?Example: When they studied two groups of people with trauma (those who were aware of their own trauma Vs. those who were dismissive of their own trauma) they found the former would go on to give their children immensely successful and fulfilling upbringings. The latter either repeated the trauma and gave it to their kids, or had no kids or family of their own. The point being the ache and burden of cPTSD can be weaponised to work to your own benefit.
BPD cunts got upset that people correctly associate BPD with cartoonishly psychotic cunts so they demanded the mental health industry come up with a new disease to be diagnosed with so these demon cunts can skinwalk as humans. Those two new things are CPTSD and rampant inaccurate autism and ADHD diagnoses in women.
>>34063182Tf is unc talkin bout?