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When is it typical to ask for the womans number on dating apps? I have bumped into a few cases now where I do ask for the womans number and she says something along the lines of "I don't like giving my number out so soon on here." But sometimes "so soon" could be like me having talked to her for about week. My friend suggested I actually instead of asking, give the woman my number instead. Which I can do but is there any real difference? Does that improve my odds? I only ever message women I actually like and I only ever ask for their number if I truly want to go out with them. I just don't know the natural progression of online dating? My friend told me he matched with a woman, got her number and met all in the same day. How the fuck is that even possible? What is the expectation of when a man should ask for a womans number in online dating? Or maybe its never and just use the app for communication?
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>>34064119
How long have you been using the apps? I think your friend's suggestion sounds smart in providing your own number instead. I'd say just proceed the best you can. Dating apps are fucking miserable and awful and drive people insane. Take as much space from them as you can if possible.
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In my experience it doesn't matter when you ask. I've asked on the 3rd message, waited a week, waited a month, it doesn't matter they ain't giving you their number. They might give you socials/messenger/whatthefuckever.
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>>34064119
I ask for the number when it's clear the conversation is heading for a date, and I only start steering the convo towards a date if we have a good rapport and I know some of her interests. Every single successful first date I've had involved first meeting at a location relevant to the girl's interests. A nursery for the girl into houseplants, a cosplay meetup for nerdy bitches, new experimental vegan sandwich shop for the left vegan bitches. And note not all of these options cost me money. Window shopping is free. Meetup groups are usually free.
How long it takes to get to that point usually depends on the girl's responsiveness. If she really likes you and is having an actual text convo with you, it could be just a few hours. If she's so-so (but still able to be convinced) and busy with stuff, it could take a week. If arranging a date takes longer than a week and you're just establishing yourself as a texting buddy. Go ghost until either she reaches out or a few weeks pass, give it one more try to resuscitate then unmatch if it's still not working.

Sidenote: Do not ask them out for coffee and a walk. It's a date, not a job interview, Eugene.
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>>34064119
>I have bumped into a few cases now where I do ask for the womans number and she says something along the lines of "I don't like giving my number out so soon on here." But sometimes "so soon" could be like me having talked to her for about week.
See >>34066209
They're just collecting matches, and talking to you to kill time because women are fucking boring and bored people. They're not actually into you. Think about it - there are definitely men they'd let fuck them raw the same night they meet them, that man exists somewhere, but for YOU something as impersonal as their phone number is too much.
If it's possible I want to see some screenshots of these convos. I bet you're dry as fuck. Women want to go out with fun and exciting men, rule 1 is literally "girls just wanna have fun."
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>>34064119
if you didnt get digits or set up a date/hookup right away it's almost never gonna happen



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